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Say I download an *.apk file from some site or I get one from a friend, could it potentially harm my phone, cost me money etc.? Basically what I'm wondering is, when I install an app it generally says what the app has/wants access to, is this "warning" coded by the programmer to tell the user what it's accessing or is it determined automatically by built in functions? I don't want to install and app that has access to stuff that I'm not aware of.
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B
Edit: On a second note. Say I do download some harmful application, would uninstalling it solve the problem or could there be remaining harmful files still at work? The whole Android OS is sorta worrying me...bad experiences with Windows is making me cautious.
if you can think of it
there can always be a chance of happening
yes, a malicious hacker could do something like that
yes, a pissed programmer might including something like that into their apps to stop people from sharing their apps without buying it
yes, the apk might be legit but might have been corrupted some how
yes, you might be able to uninstall if lucky
but worse case scenario if i were a malicious hacker i wouldn't code a way to uninstall the app, instead i'll probably code a way to lock the user out of all access forcing you to Flash the phone from scratch
You didn't really answer my one major question, or maybe you did but I didn't understand. Are the services that the app is able to access programmed or are they determined by a function?
Well when installing I've resorted to checking a few things:
1) Make sure the app that I've downloaded is the same size as the one in the market (for equivalent versions...obviously)
2) Compare the system permissions when installing with those found at www.androlib.com
This way seems pretty safe to me. If the size is the same and the permissions are the same...you can be quite (not 100%) certain that they are legit/the same.
Ok heres the deal. Apps have 2 types of access.
1. Standard permissions
So if u don't do adb-install (where u dont see an app's permissions), then market / copy to sdcard and install from there u'll see the permission screen. An app cannot do something w/o permissions. If an uninstaller is askin for email permissions u know somethings wrong.
2. Root
Most dangerous. An app will ask u for 0 standard android api permissions. But when u run it, u will be asked for a superuser allow/deny request. From their its up to you. An app could do anything behind the scenes from tht point.
So read reviews/ user comments before trying root apps. Standard apps, just look over the permissions thts all.
FYI : The permissions are read by android, they're not user defined. Any permissions will always show up when installing it using the native package manager.
To be honest I wouldn't advise downloading an .apk from a non-trusted source. If its on the market, you're near certainly ok, and if its from a trusted developer (say from these boards, or some other similar dev portal) then again, you are likely to be ok. In the second case, you are unlikely to be getting a finished app if you get a straight apk from boards, because when they are finished or at least solid, they go to the app store anyway, so harm in that case is more likely to be of the force close variety rather than bricked variety.
Outside of that, I can't see why you would get an apk from a friend rather than downloading it yourself, simply because that way it makes certain you get a clean, non-corrupted version. If apps don't show up in the market for you, its mostly because your device can't run them, in which case, again, force close.
Uninstalling it is possibly too late. All smartphones suffer this issue though.
As mentioned, if you get the files from market though, you are likely to be safe..
Also, not all melicious programs are obvious..
Daneshm90 said:
Ok heres the deal. Apps have 2 types of access.
1. Standard permissions
So if u don't do adb-install (where u dont see an app's permissions), then market / copy to sdcard and install from there u'll see the permission screen. An app cannot do something w/o permissions. If an uninstaller is askin for email permissions u know somethings wrong.
2. Root
Most dangerous. An app will ask u for 0 standard android api permissions. But when u run it, u will be asked for a superuser allow/deny request. From their its up to you. An app could do anything behind the scenes from tht point.
So read reviews/ user comments before trying root apps. Standard apps, just look over the permissions thts all.
FYI : The permissions are read by android, they're not user defined. Any permissions will always show up when installing it using the native package manager.
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EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you.
Btw, just because security on App store says an app can do stuff like make phone calls etc, doesn't mean it's malicious.
A few people were misled by an article that stated that apps with such extreme permissions were malicious, but it's untrue. It isn't always the case, but if an app uses functionality you don't believe it should, it's possible it is dodgy
andrewluecke said:
Btw, just because security on App store says an app can do stuff like make phone calls etc, doesn't mean it's malicious.
A few people were misled by an article that stated that apps with such extreme permissions were malicious, but it's untrue. It isn't always the case, but if an app uses functionality you don't believe it should, it's possible it is dodgy
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Aye, I know. Thanks for the advice. I've actually been comparing any app I download off the internet to the actual ones on the market (size and permissions).
Hi everyone im a noob member to the site but have read some interesting threads before membership but as usual joining when i have a problem that needs some of your help
I have had a .apk file download to my htc desire running 2.2.2. I was browsing pics of the fake kind when it started downloading. i did see some letters and numbers before the file ext. It is not an official .apk that im sure off. I have searched for it on my phone but cannot find it to delete .
can anyone help please
After hooking up htc to my pc by usb lead, I have managed to locate the file by searching. It was in the download folder, I deleted it via the pc and then did a factory reset on htc.
Would this get rid of it safely
[How to] Deal with Bloat Safely & Properly {Freeze Method/ROOT} | BIGGER LIST(S)! 3/1
UPDATE: 3/1/11 @ 23:49
BIGGER COMPREHENSIVE LIST
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A "RECOMMENDED" LIST!
I'm holding off on a "Not Recommended" List for a bit until I get your guys thoughts on what should stay, be added, or be taken off of the recommended list!
PLEASE COMMENT WITH YOUR THOUGHTS!
(And thanks to kgeissler for a bunch of new frozen goods!)
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You are here because...
You bought your Atrix and hate your cluttered app drawer, as well as the feeling that your phone has to fight with one hand behind it's back...hell, maybe blindfolded, too.
You want...
To get rid of as much of the bloat on your phone as possible. You want to de-Motoblur it. You want to de-AT&T it. You want to give it back its other hand, and maybe a small knife (not to mention doing away with the blindfold).
You don't want...
To modify your phone in a manner that would be harmful. You don't want a brick/paper weight/somehow broken device.
If this is you, keep reading.
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First Offs:
> This thread is meant to help, not hurt. That being said, if, after reading this thread and performing some of the procedures detailed within, you do end up damaging your phone, neither I nor any of the others who contributed can be held responsible in any way. By reading this and performing any of the said procedures, you take full responsibility for what might happen to your phone.
> Upon writing this, the Atrix has only been officially released for less than 5 days. Devs are still working to free the bootloader, and thus most users are still only able to perform rudimentary modifications to the phone. Please realize that this thread may become obsolete as developers become more familiar with the device and are able to write all sorts of one-clicks/recovery flashables to remove bloat! This brings us to...
> I will be doing my absolute best to update this as frequently as possible in the case that new methods and/or new dangers arise regarding file modification on our devices. If this thread ever becomes obsolete, it will be noted as such in both the thread title as well as being the first thing in the original post (this).
With all that said, let us continue:
One of the most valuable pieces of information regarding modifying the Atrix's files comes from TeamBlackHat's P3Droid, known on XDA as jimmydafish:
jimmydafish said:
Hello my name is P3Droid,
We (TBH) have a lot of experience in Motorola phones and hacking. This experience dates back to the Razr days.
Here is a word of caution. Do no delete apps from the System partition, I would suggest you only rename them to .bak. When Motorola pushes updates each of the files undergoes a hash check, if the file has been manipulated or is missing the entire update will fail.
Until a system only sbf or similar is released, unless you make a back up with bootstrap and recovery, you will eliminate your ability to take updates moving forward.
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In summary: DO NOT DELETE APPS FROM THE SYSTEM PARTITION. This will result in the inability to receive official Motorola updates.
The thread from which the above quote was taken can be found here, and I would highly recommend that every single Atrix owner wishing to do any sort of file manipulation read it before doing anything else. It's only 4 pages, and well worth one's time.
So, how do we go about removing any bloat?
1) Any apps that are NOT in the system partition are safe to modify. Many have reported being able to remove apps by means of the standard Android applications manager. Details on this method can be found in this thread started by Fixter, who says:
Fixter said:
They can be removed by the Manage Applications settings. Very simple indeed.
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PLEASE NOTE: This method does NOT require root priviliges, and would be a very good place to start for more inexperienced users due to the relative ease and safety it affords. At the same time, it does not allow for access to some of the more deeply embedded apps/files you may wish to modify. This brings us to...
The Freezing Method
First suggested (to my knowledge) by acPIZZA:
acPIZZA said:
I suggest everyone that is rooted use TITANIUM BACKUP to deal with their bloatware issues. The pro version, which you will need, is only a few bucks and is worth it. TB allows you to 'freeze' bloatware apps, which to my knowledge just blocks it fro the system, but does not delete it. The apps you choose to freeze are also removed from the app tray - so no more clutter. This way when an update rolls around, you can run down the list and simply touch 'thaw' to bring those apps back to recognition. This seems like a much more efficient and easy way to go back and forth, rather than renaming the .apk's.
I apologize if someone already mentioned TB in this thread - I just skimmed quickly.
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In summary:
Use Titanium Backup's "Freeze" feature to deactivate or disable files. This method allows for the safe and long term deactivation of files in order to free up RAM/CPU resources, while allowing users to easily reactivate, or "Thaw"/"Defrost" the files if the need arises (official Motorola updates, requiring a certain functionality given by a file, etc). Note: This does not free up any storage on one's phone. It merely stops a phone process so that it does not consume RAM and/or processing power.
Prerequisites:
>Root privileges (procedure can be found here; thanks goes to designgears)
>Titanium Backup (application; can be found in/downloaded from the Android Market)
Note: The "Freeze" feature of TiBU is only available in the paid version of the app. TiBU Pro only costs $3.99, and is very useful beyond just what is discussed within this thread. (Trust me, I was hesitant to spend any money in the Android Market, but this has saved me countless hours of time and much of my sanity. It is well worth it.)
Procedure: (It's actually pretty simple)
1. Open Titanium Backup
2a. If previously unopened, click "Allow" on the Superuser dialog box- this grants TiBU the required root privileges
2b. If, for whatever reason, you do not grant TiBU superuser permission, don't panic- press the menu button and tap "Reload Application"; this should give you a second shot to give the necessary permission
2c. Alternatively, you can kill TiBU in a task manager and reopen it, also giving you that second chance
3. Navigate to the Backup/Restore section by clicking the corresponding little grey bubble at the top. This brings you to a list of all sorts of system/application elements.
4. From here, it's a simple matter of tapping (not long-clicking) on an element to bring up a dialog box. This box will contain options to, among other things, backup, uninstall, and freeze.
At this point regarding Atrix development,
YOU ARE TO TOUCH NOTHING BUT "FREEZE"...EVER. (I guess "Back up" is also fine, but that is not relevant).
Note: To Defrost/Thaw an element, simply repeat steps 1-4, instead selecting the Defrost/Thaw option.
ALSO, I personally have found that any changes made by freezing will only take effect after a reboot. Ultimately, even if this isn't the case, I suggest a reboot anyways (just for good measure). I don't believe there's a need to do this after every single time you Freeze an element, just once after you've Frozen all you'd like.
This of course brings us to...
Elements that are safe to Freeze:
Note:
This list is likely to change as more elements are found to be safe to touch. At the same time, if an element is ever found to cause problems after being Frozen, the list will be updated as soon as possible. Here we go...
The first post containing "Safe-to-Freeze" apps can be found here (Thank you, snlu178). I did not quote this post so as to avoid confusion, though I will be incorporating the list of elements in the linked post into my list. Once again, I owe a big thanks to snlu178 for the risk he took, as well taking the time to list the apps he found safe to Freeze.
The List: (Alphabetized, I believe)
*Disclaimer: Some of these elements correspond to docking/widget functionality. If something appears to be linked to a certain functionality that you need/want, DO NOT TAMPER WITH IT.
COMPREHENSIVE LIST
AdService 1.0
Alarm & Timer 2.2.1
AtCommandService 1.1
AT&T Code Scanner
AT&T Family Map
AT&T Navigator
Blockbuster 0.6
Blur.res 2.2.1
BrowserMessage 2.0.0
Cardock 1.0
com.android.providers.applications 2.2.1
com.motorola.android.extdispservice 1.0.0
com.motorola.android.syncml.service 2.2.1
com.motorola.photowidget 2.2.1
Contacts Sync 2.2.1 (google contacts will still sync)
ContactsUnconnected 2.2.1
Data Manager Service 1.1 (internet and data still works)
Desk Home 2.2.1
DLNA 0709.69
DlnaSystemService 1.0
DMService 1.0.0
DRM Protected Content Storage 2.2.1
Entertainment Center 1.0
Files 2.2.1
Forest Wallpaper 1.0
FOTA 2.2.1 (THIS DIRECTLY AFFECTS OFFICIAL MOTOROLA OVER-THE-AIR FIRMWARE UPDATES! NOT RECOMMENDED AT ALL!)
Help Center
Home 2.2.1 (this is the default Motoblur launcher; as such, have a home replacement already installed and set as the default if you wish to freeze this!)
Home Screen Tips
Live TV
LocationProxyDmPlugin 2.2.1
Mediashare 1.0.0
MediaSync 1.0.0
Mobile Desktop 1.0
Motorola Dock Service 1.0
myAT&T 1.0
News & Weather 1.3.03 (Android widget, not Motoblur, just FYI)
News 2.2.1
NFS Shift 1.1.73
Purchased Media 1.0
Quick Contact 2.2.1
Quick Tutorial 0.0.1
Quickoffice
SDMService 1.0
Social Messaging 2.2.1
Social Messaging Service 2.2.1
Social Networking 2.2.1
Social Sharing 2.2.1
Social Status 2.2.1
Sticky Note 2.2.1
Swype
SyncML 2.2.1
Task Manager 9.0
Terminal Emulator (I & others believe this may affect ADB functionality; though safe, freezing this is not necessarily recommended!)
Toggle Widgets
Universal Inbox 2.2.1
VLingo
Voice Commands
Weather 2.2.1
Webtop Connector
Work Contacts 2.2.1
YPmobile
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Alarm & Timer 2.2.1
AtCommandService 1.1
AT&T Code Scanner
AT&T Family Map
AT&T Navigator
Blockbuster 0.6
com.motorola.photowidget 2.2.1
Entertainment Center 1.0
Help Center
Home Screen Tips
Live TV
Mediashare 1.0.0
MediaSync 1.0.0
myAT&T 1.0
News 2.2.1
NFS Shift 1.1.73
Quick Contact 2.2.1
Quick Tutorial 0.0.1
Quickoffice
Social Messaging 2.2.1
Social Messaging Service 2.2.1
Social Networking 2.2.1
Social Sharing 2.2.1
Social Status 2.2.1
Sticky Note 2.2.1
Toggle Widgets
Universal Inbox 2.2.1
VLingo
Voice Commands
Weather 2.2.1
YPmobile
Miscellaneous:
If you happen to SNAFU your phone, as of right now your best bet is this procedure laid out by designgears.
Thanks to:
designgears
Getaphixx
Fixter
snlu178
acPIZZA
franciscojavierleon
numerous TeamBlackHat members (esp. P3Droid/Jimmydafish, cellzealot)
our dear forum moderator, Mr. Clown (thanks for the sticky!)
reserved (just in case, I suppose)
Thanks for the mention friend. We need to make sure we tell them that Freeze is a paid feature of Titanium Backup paid version.
Hmm, so I was dump and didn't read the sentence in the parenthesis next to Home 2.2.1. I froze it without have something else and now after a reboot my phone is stuck at the AT&T Rethink Possible Screen. Any ideas?
Fixter said:
Thanks for the mention friend. We need to make sure we tell them that Freeze is a paid feature of Titanium Backup paid version.
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is the freeze option the equivalent of just renaming the .apk to .bak? If so, it could be an alternative to buying tibu.
This is great. Thanks for getting it stickied.
Re: the no home rebooting nag this point, check out the post on recovering from a soft boot. You will have to learn about adb, but you can get the phone back to life. Anyone else have a faster way to factory reset?
franciscojavierleon said:
is the freeze option the equivalent of just renaming the .apk to .bak? If so, it could be an alternative to buying tibu.
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In a sense yes. But TiBu is faster and I would argue has less user error. Plus the app is so great you should spend the money to support the dev. But, you can go through changing the names.
Thanks for staying on top of things, snlu178.
I should have a moment now to update a couple of things, including the mention that the freeze feature is paid only (something I was wondering about but didn't want to speak on too soon; thanks again, Fixter).
Also, regarding the ghetto .bak alternative, does that require Root Explorer? I guess I'd be willing to mention it, but ultimately, if it's a matter of buying Root Explorer, then I might just confine this thread to dealing with TiBU.
Let me work on a small revision, and also make sure freezing Home 2.2.1 can be risky if done so improperly.
xyrovice said:
Also, regarding the ghetto .bak alternative, does that require Root Explorer? I guess I'd be willing to mention it, but ultimately, if it's a matter of buying Root Explorer, then I might just confine this thread to dealing with TiBU.
Let me work on a small revision, and also make sure freezing Home 2.2.1 can be risky if done so improperly.
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Just found out root explorer is also paid. Not that i don't want to pay, it's just that i am new at android (atrix will ship down here in about 2 weeks) and don't know if the market accepts credit cards from Venezuela yet. I will try...
My guess is that there should be a way to rename files from the adb shell as well. Either that, or install openssh or something on the phone and then just su and rename. It's linux, after all.
About freezing home, besides having already installed another launcher like launcher pro or adw, i guess it should be active before freezing it? To avoid force close or other problems.
Have you tried using google checkout?
franciscojavierleon said:
Just found out root explorer is also paid. Not that i don't want to pay, it's just that i am new at android (atrix will ship down here in about 2 weeks) and don't know if the market accepts credit cards from Venezuela yet. I will try...
My guess is that there should be a way to rename files from the adb shell as well. Either that, or install openssh or something on the phone and then just su and rename. It's linux, after all.
About freezing home, besides having already installed another launcher like launcher pro or adw, i guess it should be active before freezing it? To avoid force close or other problems.
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Really good idea. I don't know if it's necessary, but always better safe than sorry. I will add a notice to not only have another launcher installed, but also "defaulted".
xyrovice said:
Really good idea. I don't know if it's necessary, but always better safe than sorry. I will add a notice to not only have another launcher installed, but also "defaulted".
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When you install something like ADW and nothing else. Home = Motoblur is completely deactivated. Its like ADW becomes the default home app. You'll need app switcher to get back to it.
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When you install something like ADW and nothing else. Home = Motoblur is completely deactivated. Its like ADW becomes the default home app. You'll need app switcher to get back to it.
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Ducking out for a sec, but I'll make a note of this when I get the chance. And do you mean home switcher?
xyrovice said:
Ducking out for a sec, but I'll make a note of this when I get the chance. And do you mean home switcher?
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Yes Sir, sorry.
xyrovice said:
Ducking out for a sec, but I'll make a note of this when I get the chance. And do you mean home switcher?
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there's moto home fix in the Market specifically for moto phones with blur for this.
franciscojavierleon said:
there's moto home fix in the Market specifically for moto phones with blur for this.
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I know this. I was just stating a fact.
I agree to call out the need to have a new home app installed and defaulted prior.
Moto Home Fix is what switches back to Home 2.2.1 (if it's not frozen).
Also, though Home 2.2.1 is not default when you have a new launcher it still runs in the background draining CPU and RAM. And every bit you save helps in my book.
I compared running services on my Nexus One (with CM7) with my Atrix and tried disabling services that were on the Atrix, but not on the N1. I have froze the following with no ill effects yet....
I am not running Blur, I am running Launcher Pro.
If anyone recognizes any of these that I should defrost, please let me know.
AdService 1.0
AtCommandService 1.1
blur.res 2.2.1
BrowserMessage 2.0.0
com.android.providers.applications 2.2.1
com.motorola.android.extdispservice 1.0.0
com.motorola.android.syncml.service 2.2.1
com.motorola.photowidget 2.2.1
Contacts Sync 2.2.1 (google contacts will still sync)
ContactsUnconnected 2.2.1
Data Manager Service 1.1 (internet and data still works)
Desk Home 2.2.1
DLNA 0709.69
DlnaSystemService 1.0
DMService 1.0.0
DRM Protected Content Storage 2.2.1
Entertainment Center 1.0
Files 2.2.1
Forest Wallpaper 1.0
FOTA 2.2.1
Help Center 2.2.1
Home 2.2.1
Home Screen Tips 2.2.1
LocationProxyDmPlugin 2.2.1
MediaShare 1.0.0
MediaSync 1.0.0
Mobile Desktop 1.0
News 2.2.1
Purchased Media 1.0
Quick Contact 2.2.1
Quick Tutorial 0.0.1
SDMService 1.0
Social Messaging 2.2.1
Social Messaging Service 2.2.1
Social Networking 2.2.1
Social Sharing 2.2.1
Social Status 2.2.1
Sticky Note 2.2.1
SyncML 2.2.1
Task Manager 9.0
Toggle Widgets 2.2.1
Universal Inbox 2.2.1
Voice Commands
VPN Services 2.2.1
Weather 2.2.1
Work Contacts 2.2.1
Titanium Backup
Can Titanium Backup be placed on the SD card, or does it need to be kept in the main phone memory? Haven't seen this addressed anywhere and I have little experience with apps functioning from SD cards.
Fixter said:
Thanks for the mention friend. We need to make sure we tell them that Freeze is a paid feature of Titanium Backup paid version.
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Yes, thanks for the mention.
Also, in my quote - I mention the paid version.
For a project I am having to lock down some Verizon Galaxy Tabs for a hospital. They want the Verizon 3g Hotspot removed as it really just needs to go.
It's not listed for install/uninstall, there's no entry for it looking via qtADB. We have root access and can remove anything, but I do not know what file it is - I'm going to have to start renaming and there're TONs of files there...
Any help much appreciated.
mildlydisturbed said:
For a project I am having to lock down some Verizon Galaxy Tabs for a hospital. They want the Verizon 3g Hotspot removed as it really just needs to go.
It's not listed for install/uninstall, there's no entry for it looking via qtADB. We have root access and can remove anything, but I do not know what file it is - I'm going to have to start renaming and there're TONs of files there...
Any help much appreciated.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.danesh.system.app.remover&feature=search_result
Danesh's System App Remover. I think there is a free version floating around XDA. You will have to root(z4root or super one click) the Tab to remove the apps, but you can un-root after and they will stay removed.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.danesh.system.app.remover&feature=search_result
Danesh's System App Remover. I think there is a free version floating around XDA. You will have to root(z4root or super one click) the Tab to remove the apps, but you can un-root after and they will stay removed.
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Does it display the name of the apks it's removing? As it stands we're doing this from a script - removing the mounds of garbage that ships with them. If it's at all possible, we have to be able to "rm /system/app/junkapp.apk" as opposed to installing software (we removed the market at step 1) and then uninstalling it.
I know it may sound silly, but we're dealing with 93 Galaxy Tabs tomorrow and 170 next week. I've got a batch file, a script, all sorts of things to drop the time down to 1 click... 230 more operations that a human has to be involved in are going to end up being several hours of time.
ok, so no answers on that... I found that renaming /system/bin/dnsmasq to anything else disables the functionality
I didn't spot any thread around here covering the topic of debloating stock sony firmware. Not that it would be cluttered like other manufacturers firmware, but theres still room for improvement
Is there a guide somewhere or a list of all apk safe to disable/remove (provided root acces) on sony firmwares? Similar to a Samsung Galaxy S2 related guide here or another very exhaustive one here (<- preferred).
I'm from the X10i & the Arc forums, I use this as a guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
Good Luck
* If you want to delete a app by Root-Explorer, don't update it by Playstore first before removing it. (Facebook)
* Some apps can be removed by Settings - Apps etc.
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Well on tx stock, I got the following apps disabled. ;/
my phone is running fine. From start up to everyday use.
This all depends on what functions you use for the phone. Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is persona l preference on which apps you want to delete.
However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete and still keep your phone working as a phone. The best way I have found of doing this is not by following other peoples list but by using Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps and then test the phone to see if it still works the way I want it. Then I could delete the app. If I ost some functionality I would defrost the app and no harm is done.
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This all depends on what functions you use for the phone. Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is persona l preference on which apps you want to delete.
However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete and still keep your phone working as a phone. The best way I have found of doing this is not by following other peoples list but by using Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps and then test the phone to see if it still works the way I want it. Then I could delete the app. If I ost some functionality I would defrost the app and no harm is done.
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What Greg says is right, but to add to it:
Apps that you can "disable" will not effect the functionality of the phone, you will just lose the function of the app in question.
Secondly, if you are using titanium back up to freeze system apps, and you are not sure what the app you are freezing does you might stop your system from working, so before you freeze anything you are unsure of, take a full backup first so you can restore it if your system becomes unstable.
Please post your results in this thread for others to learn from.
There is also a system app cleaner in flashtool, although I have not used it with the T yet.
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gregbradley said:
Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is personal preference on which apps you want to delete. *snip* However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete
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As for the first part of your post, I'm fully aware of. In fact thats the reason why I'd like to have some of useless stuff removed (numerous FB clients/apps/agents for example) But thanks for putting it here as other users might not be aware of the possible issues.
The part in bold is of most interest to me. I'm totally not an Android novice, I know most crucial system packages. Derping around in relatively pure Android releases like AOSP and CM10 and reading the same package names over and over again gives a feel what is Android related and what is vendor specific. For Sammy/Touchwiz I know which package does what, but with Sony I'm new and dont know which files are safe to remove without breaking the system. Hence this thread.
[email protected] said:
What Greg says is right, but to add to it: *snip*
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Of course same as above. I do not use TiB though, I use an app called System App Remover. I know TiB very vell of course, but then, who doesn't But again, I'm not interested in getting informations what removing or freezing apk's means in general, I'm interested in which are essential to Sonys UI and will break the system if removed.
I'll have a look at the link provided to the Arc/X10 forums.
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LitoNi said:
Well on tx stock, I got the following apps disabled. ;/
my phone is running fine. From start up to everyday use.
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Yesterday I found out that disabeling Setup Guide resulted in me losing all APN settings and the phone refused to (automatically) recreate them. They got recreated without any fuzz after enabeling the setup wizard and running it. I'll eventually try to recreate this as I fight with myself if this connected or if I coincidentally hit a time where my network decided to derp on me.
schaggo said:
Yesterday I found out that disabeling Setup Guide resulted in me losing all APN settings and the phone refused to (automatically) recreate them. They got recreated without any fuzz after enabeling the setup wizard and running it. I'll eventually try to recreate this as I fight with myself if this connected or if I coincidentally hit a time where my network decided to derp on me.
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not sure whats that got to do with it, Setup guide is one of the first apps i delte. Unless this an app from your carrier that loads the apn settings...mine are downloaded automatically from vodafone.
The objective of this thread is to answer the commonly asked questions, give the newbies a little head-start, protect them from getting flamed and keep this forum focused on more important things
1 > What is root?
If you’re an Administrator on a Windows machine, you have access to the entire operating system and you can do whatever you like. That’s essentially what happens if you root your Android device. With root access, you can get around any restrictions that your manufacturer or carrier may have applied. You can run more apps; you can customize your device to a greater degree; and you can potentially speed it up in a variety of ways.
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Basically, Rooting a phone grants you the permission to do stuff you normally aren't. Remember that the process of Rooting itself will not change anything on your phone or make your your faster. It is what you do 'after' rooting that makes a difference. Rooting just allows you to make changes that were previously not allowed.
2 > Why to Root?
One of the most obvious incentives to root your Android device is to rid yourself of the bloatware (apps that come pre-installed with your phone) that’s impossible to uninstall. You’ll be able to set up wireless tethering, even if it has been disabled by default. You can also access your entire file system, install special apps that require a root, and flash custom ROMs, which can add extra features and streamline your phone or tablet’s performance. A lot of people are tempted by the ability to completely customize the look of their phones. You can also manually accept or deny app permissions.
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You can also get the latest android version before HTC releases it. For example we have Jellybean (4.1.2). HTC has not officially released it for our phone. Mostly they never will! You can also overclock (increase the speed of your CPU) your phone!
3 > Why not to root?
There are essentially three potential cons to rooting your Android.
Voiding your warranty: Some manufacturers or carriers will use rooting as an excuse to void your warranty. It’s worth keeping in mind that you can always unroot. If you need to send the device back for repair, simply flash the original backup ROM you made and no one will ever know that it was rooted.
Bricking your phone: Whenever you tamper too much, you run at least a small risk of bricking your device. This is the big fear everyone has. The obvious way to avoid it happening is to follow instructions carefully. Make sure that the guide you are following works for your device and that any custom ROM you flash is designed specifically for it. If you do your research and pay attention to feedback from others, bricking should never occur.
Security risks: Rooting may introduce some security risks. Depending on what services or apps you use on your device, rooting could create a security vulnerability. For example, Google refuses to support the Google Wallet service for rooted devices.
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You must be willing to compromise with these factors before you decide to root. Personally, I haven't regretted my decision of rooting even for a second! I'm sure most of the guys on this forum feel the same way. However it is your choice.
4 > How do I root my phone?
You can either use this step by step guide
Or use this All-in-one Toolkit
5 > What is Recovery?
A recovery is a small distinct environment separate from Android that allows diagnostic updates, and the ability to perform factory resets. The main purpose of this is to provide a way to reset an Android device when it may be impossible to boot into it.
The Android stock recovery is very basic and controlled via the volume keys and power button at the top of the device.
Custom Recoveries perform the same tasks as the stock-Android recovery with a few addition features, such as the ability to make full system backups, as well as flash custom roms. It is important to note that custom recoveries are recommended to those users with rooted devices, however a rooted device is not required. Anyone with an unlocked bootloader can install a custom recovery on their device.
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Basically, Recovery saves your ass when you screw up! But it has many other important features.
6 > What are the different Recoveries available for HTC Desire C?
Currently there are two recoveries available for HTC Desire C.
Team Win Recovery
Clockwork Mod Recovery
7 > How do I install a recovery?
Follow Step 3 of this thread. But instead of the link provided there, use one of the two links I posted in the previous question.
8 > Which recovery is better?
I use TWRP because I find it user friendly and it has got more functions.But CWM is more famous and widely supported. You can choose what you like.
9 > What is a Custom ROM?
A stock ROM is the version of the phone's operating system that comes with your phone when you buy it.
A custom ROM is a fully standalone version of the OS, including the kernel (which makes everything run), apps, services, etc - everything you need to operate the device, except it's customized by someone in some way.
So what does the "customized" part mean? Since Android is open source, developers are free to take stock ROMs, modify them, strip them of garbage, optimize them, add things, and pretty much do whatever their imagination and skills allow.
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My definition - A Custom ROM is a developer's idea of what the phone 'should have been like'. He takes the stock rom and modifies it to improve performance, looks, animations, battery life etc.
10 > Why to install a Custom ROM?
Updated versions: You can load the latest and available Android versions which can make your old phone look new.
Great number of feature filled custom ROMs: It will be a chaotic task for you to find the apt one as there are bunches of great custom ROMs available for different devices.
Personalization: There are a number of features that can be customized to suit your taste and working environment. For instance, Custom themes can bring a new look and feel to your device.
Improve performance: The custom ROMs allow its users to find out the unnecessary apps they have on their device and helps them to get rid of them, thus increases the speed of processing and improves battery life.
Install Apps on SD card: This is currently not possible with stock ROMs. If your phone ran out of space occasionally when install new apps this is a killer feature to have.
Better signal and quality: Custom ROMs help you to improve your base-band which in turn increases the signal and quality of your phone call.
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Other reasons that you won't find on Google - "The thrill factor involved", "To show off to your friends" and "Because you can!"
11 > Why not to install a Custom rom?
Bricking: This is one of the main reason why people hesitate to root their devices. Some devices after the rooting process may become useless and the only option left with you is to get a new one as the manufacturer will cancel the warranty if they find any attempts of rooting.
Loss of all Data: When you install a new custom ROM, it will clean up your system and therefore you will loss all your installed apps and data.
Risk Factor: Most of the apps will be open source and the trust you have on developers may cause a potential risk to you in the future.
Reboot: If the rooting is not successfully done, the device may enter to an infinite loop of booting.
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Even though this may seem concerning, it will happen only if you don't follow instructions correctly or do something extremely stupid. As of now, there is no way to completely brick an HTC Desire C! You can fix 'Loss of Data' by taking a backup and you can fix reboot by using the Recovery mode we discussed earlier.
12 > What are the different Custom ROMs available for HTC Desire C?
Look HERE. Take your pick!
13 > Which is the Best ROM for this phone?
NEVER EVER ASK THIS QUESTION!! This is a very subjective question. It differs from person to person. It takes a lot of time/energy/efforts to build a custom ROM and asking this question is a very big insult to the makers of these ROMs! Try out different ROMs and choose what you like.
14 > What is a Kernel?
The central module of an operating system. It is the part of the operating system that loads first, and it remains in main memory. Because it stays in memory, it is important for the kernel to be as small as possible while still providing all the essential services required by other parts of the operating system and applications. Typically, the kernel is responsible for memory management, process and task management, and disk management.
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If our phone was a movie, the Kernel would be the director! It is the brain of our phone. And even though it is the most important part of our phone, it is just a single (.IMG) file and only a couple of MBs!
15 > What are the benefits of a custom Kernel?
Adjust CPU frequencies and set profiles like OnDemand, Battery Saving, etc.
Underclock and overclock CPU speeds
Underclock and overclock GPU speeds
Adjust voltage
Adjust touch screen sensitivity
Equip your phone with BLN (backlight notifications)
Custom recovery that allows backups and restorations of entire ROMs as well as installation of .zip files
Minimum screen brightness pushed past the limitations of stock kernel
Conserve battery (with the right settings)
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There are a lot of Technical advantages of a good coded custom kernel. Fortunately, you don't have to worry about all that. Most of the work is done by the developer himself.
16 > How to flash (install) a custom kernel? OR How to flash boot.img?
You can either use this Auto Boot.img Flasher
Or read this
17 > Which is the best Kernel for this phone?
NEVER EVER ASK THIS QUESTION!! This is a very subjective question. It differs from person to person. It takes a lot of time/energy/efforts to build a Kernel and asking this question is a very big insult to the makers of these Kernels! And remember, not all Kernels are compatible with all roms.
REMEMBER - Use Sense Kernel with Sense ROMs. Use CM10 Kernel with Cm10 based ROMs. It can't get much simpler.
18 > How to overclock my phone?
You cannot overclock with a stock kernel. You MUST have a custom kernel to overclock your phone. Once you have a custom kernel you must install either 'SetCPU app' or 'NoFrillsCPU app'. You need any one of these to control the CPU speeds.
19 > Is it safe to overclock my phone?
I will not say this is completely safe. But i have yet to come across somebody who actually screwed up his phone just by overclocking. So use at your own risk. Also remember that all phones have a different capacity to overclock. If you try to overclock it higher than that, it will go into a 'reboot loop'. But you can fix that by flashing a lower frequency Kernel. It is not a problem.
Miscellaneous Questions > What is GAPPS?
Gapps is short for Google Apps. These are apps made by google like Google Maps, Playstore, Gmail, Google search etc. They are available to download in the Play Store and can also be flashed as a zip in recovery mode. For a complete list of apps click HERE. Not all Gapps are available in all countries.
> How to increase battery life? OR How to save battery?
Read THIS (Not only read it but apply it too! ) . If nothing else works, buy a better battery.
> Task Managers - Good or Bad?
Long story short - If you don't know what you are doing, Stay away from task killers. If you think that constantly killing apps will free more RAM and therefore speed up your device, you are mistaken. The app that you kill will restart itself and this will cause you more of your phone's resources than you think you saved. In fact, task managers do more harm than good. A lot of Developers agree with this. Android itself does a very fine job of managing tasks so that you don't have to mess with it.
Read this in-depth article on task managers HERE
> What is Clean Flash? What is Dirty Flash?
Clean Flash is wiping cache, dalvik cache and data before flashing a zip or installing a ROM through recovery.
Dirty Flash is wiping cache and dalvik cache only
Clean flash is much recommended and causes less problems down the road. If the instructions specifically ask to to clean flash, you must do so. You will lose all your data when you will clean flash. But dont worry, clean flash will not affect your internal or external memory card. You will lose your apps and settings and game data. Your phone will act like it is just out of the box.
You can Dirty flash when flashing small modification zip files. Or perhaps a minor update to the rom (unless the instructions ask you to clean flash). You will not lose any data while Dirty flash. But sometimes, you are more likely to face problems like apps closing which could have been prevented by Clean flashing.
Personally, i always clean flash when installing a new Rom. It is a good habit to follow in the long run.
> What is ADB?
ADB stands for Android Debug Bridge. It is a very useful tool. Using ADB, we can control our android phone using our PC. We can copy or delete files, install or uninstall apps, take a logcat, reboot our phone and a lot of other functions. Here is a really cool guide to ADB.
Here is the list of the common adb commands :
adb devices – lists which devices are currently attached to your computer
adb install – lets you install an Android application on your phone
adb remount – Remounts your system in write mode – this lets you alter system files on your phone using ADB
adb push – lets you upload files to your phones filesystem
adb pull – lets you download files off your phones filesystem
adb logcat – starts dumping debugging info from your handset to the console – useful for debugging apps
adb shell – drops you into a basic linux command shell on your phone with no parameters, or lets you run commands directly
> How to get a logcat?
There are basically 3 ways to get a Logcat:
Using an app (Catlog ; aLogcat ; Logcat Extreme)
Using terminal emulator
Using ADB
I personally use ADB whenever I have to take a logcat. Also, it is the only method where it is possible to take logcat when the phone boots (bootanimation).
For Method 3, connect your phone to the PC, open command window, navigate to C:\Program Files\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools
Then type
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Wait for some time as the logcat builds. Then press Ctrl+C to stop taking logcat. You fill find a .txt file in the platform-tools folder. That is your logcat! Now upload it to a site like Dropbox and post a link when required.
Make sure you have USB Debugging enabled when doing this.
> How does the thanks meter fill up?
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1st bar - 26
2nd bar - 51
3rd bar - 101
4th bar - 201
bug here, never gets to 5 bars, probably 501 if fixed.
6th bar - 1001
7th bar - 2001
8th bar - 5001
9th bar - 8001
Maxed! - 10000
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> User Titles on XDA
ngoralph said:
- Junior Member - New members with less than 30 posts.
- Member - Members with more than 30 but less than 100 posts.
- Senior Member - Members with 100+ posts.
- Recognized Contributor - A title given to members who have helped people with various problems. You can apply for this position or ask a Forum Moderator, Senior Moderator, Recognized Contributor to nominate you. They don't give it away for free though; you have to meet some requirements.
- Recognized Themer - A member who's known for original themes. You can apply to the Senior Moderators yourself, or ask a Recognized Contributor to nominate you.
- Recognized Developer - A title given to a member for his/her work in his/her device-specific development. You can apply to the Senior Moderators yourself. I don't think anyone can nominate you here. The developer committee assesses your overall activity and decides whether you're eligible for this position.
- Elite Recognized Developer - This title is given to Recognized Developers who have provided outstanding work, way beyond the knowledge of us mere mortals. A Recognized Developer is re-assessed by the developer committee before being given that title.
- Forum Moderator - This title is given to Recognized Contributors who are responsible enough to handle a forum on their own with some other such members of course. They have to fill out an application (which is no longer available now) and then the moderator committee approves of them.
- Senior Moderator - Senior Moderators are in charge of the whole site-wide support for Forum Moderators and nitty-gritty business that Forum Moderators cannot look after.
- Administrators - Next comes the admins who are responsible for everything as a whole. Each look after a specific part of XDA.
- MikeChannon's the dude behind all this. He's the Forum Administrator.
Other titles you may come across are
- Moderator Committee - sits on the Mod Committee
- Developer Committee - as above, but for Developer Committee
- XDA Newswriter - publishes articles for the Portal (front page)
- Retired xxxx - have since officially 'left' their XDA position
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Thread Layout Tips (by me4488)
Here are some basic Layout tips that will make your thread look more appealing, and pleasant to read.
1 > You need to have all of the basic 5 stepping-stones for every thread you create.
ROMS: Features, Requirements, How-to, Screenshots, Download links. (Optional: Notes/Warnings you may add)
KERNELS: Features, How-to, Download links. (Optional: Benchmarks)
THEMES, APPS AND MODS: Features, How to, Download links, Screenshots. (Optional: Play store links.)
GUIDES: FAQs, Credits, Links, Explanations. (Optional: Personal comments.)
2 > Optional but highly recommended.
Some of you guys let this pass over your head, but i cannot emphasize enough how much you need to have those.
CREDITS - Thank the people who helped you during your hard work. It really helps you establish some good allies and prevent arguments. Not to mention the warm sensation in an assistants tummy when he sees his name in a thread that exploded.
CHANGELOGS - Please add every single change you make when you update your work. Its really frustrating sometimes, to wait for a big update and then have to go through everything to figure out what it did. Also it helps yourself to stay organized and aware of the changes you make, because let's admit. We all forget.
3 > Follow the rules.
Stealing, swearing, and blaming in an OP will get you banned.
Remember to set up a github where all the changes to your work are made. Its against the rules to not do so. Don't abuse caps, big fonts, colors, styles, etc. It just makes people want to report your thread.
4 > Cosmetics
Use colors and [Bold] to separate the different points of your thread(Headers/Sub-Titles). For example the basic 5 points should be in bold and a different color so that readers can easily make out what they are going to get information on. This thread itself is an example on good cosmetics.
5 > Optional stuff
Regular updates on the working process are greatly appreciated by the users. It shows that you are interested in providing updates and communicating.
Mirrors to your work are really helpful, you might upload them yourself or you may let other people do so, but either way, it ensures that everyone has access to your work at any point of time.
Videos showcasing the work you are presenting. Its always nice to have a visual demonstration of what you are offering, even though it may be a little hard to execute.
6 > Some tips:
Have the headers centered and use bigger fonts on them.
Don't use bright or hard to read colors like cyan, yellow or pink, it irritates the eyes and makes it less appealing to people that are willing to read.
Follow the example you started with. If you decide to make your layout in a specific manner don't go changing it mid-way.
If in doubt, reference other threads for examples.
Get creative, use your imagination, think outside the box. Innovation is good.
Examples of threads that have great layouts, and a basic template.
Great Layouts: Example #1 ; Example #2 ; Example #3
Everything is well organized here and cannot be criticised.
Note: Example #1 is missing the changelogs because the dev just helped us out. Support is up to us.
Good/Mediocre Layouts
Example #1 - The layout itself is very well structured but those little details like the bright yellow and the monotone text size/style.
Example #2 - Not the best way to post a thread. Most times 2 posts are unnecessary. Features list missing. Also i am a little against the excessive urging for people to thank/donate to you.
Bad layouts - Any thread missing the 5 important stepping stones, or not following common sense.
Experiment with your own styles, and use common sense, asking yourself “Jee, will this look good if I did this and that?”
P.S. The examples given were chosen based on my sense of giving examples and are completely randomly chosen.
Proper Forum Manners (by aashay960)Being a member here on XDA, you are expected to behave in a manner that will not cause any inconvenience to your fellow members. People are here because they choose to be here, because they like being here and helping out. They do not owe you in any way. They can choose not to help you if they find your manners disrespectful. You are here because you need their help. Disrespecting any one member or not following rules can leave a negative impression on the other members about you and they might choose to ignore you.
XDA Forum Rules <-- Read this
Here are some points to help you follow proper forum manners/etiquette.
1 > I have a Question, What should I do?
The first thing you should do is use the ‘Search’. Xda has an excellent and organised searching mechanism. You can search within a particular thread, a particular forum or search the entire website at once. It is very likely that you are not the first person to encounter this problem. If searching on XDA does not satisfy you, Search on Google.
From my personal experience I can tell that searching is indeed the best way to solve your problem. More often than not, I find the answer by searching rather than asking on a thread.
If you still cant find the solution, post your query in the Q and A section.
Don't Post vague titles like “HELP!”, “EMERGENCY!” It will not attract more people to your thread to help you. In fact, it irritates people. Xda members will try their best to help you with all kinds of problems - small or big. It would be much more appreciated if you name your thread clearly like [Q][NAME OF PROBLEM][WHAT ROM]. And avoid posting things like “HELP!!” or “pls halp!” in your posts as well. Doing so will not be any help.
2 > I am excited about the release of the next version of this rom. What should I do?
Never ask things like “When will you release the next version?” “How much more time to the next release?” “Please release the next version soon”. This is called asking for ETA and this is not welcomed here. The developers pursue this as a hobby and do so in their free time. They will release the Rom when they feel it is ready to be released. Trust me, they have no gain keeping it to themselves. They WILL share it with you.
Also, do not post things like “Waiting for the ROM” or “Excited about the next release”. They do nothing to help others and just add to the clutter.
One rule to follow before posting anything is to ask yourself - Will this make a difference? If the answer is no, don’t post it.
3 > I am facing a bug with the Rom. What should i do?
Be descriptive about your problem. Try to give as much information as you can about it rather than writing “pls help”. Mention the name of the rom, name of the kernel. Provide screenshots if you think they might help. Also mention what you did ‘before’ you found the bug/problem. It is often the last thing you do that messes up your ROM.
Also, Learn how to take a logcat. There are hundred of guides showing you how to do it. Use the Search box. It’s not Rocket science..
4 > I really like somebody’s work and would like to share it. What do I do?
Make sure you ask permission from the original maker of the guide/rom/kernel/app you want to share. And make sure you mention his username in your thread and thank him for doing his work. It is also recommended to provide a link to the original thread.
5 > I really like somebody’s work. I want to tell him that I appreciate it. What do I do?
This is pretty obvious but, HIT THE THANKS BUTTON. The developers feel really happy when you press the thanks button. It encourages them to keep working hard.
The thanks button is enough to show your gratitude. You don’t need to post things like “thank you” or “i really like your work” or “Great job”. This will increase the clutter in the forums. This is what the thanks button was made for.
Some developers also give you the option to donate money to them. If you would really like to show your appreciation, you can click on the “Donate to Me” button in the signature, or under their profile picture.
6 > Another user is disrespecting me or disobeying the rules. What should i do?
Use the “Report Post” button (the exclamation mark on top of the post). DONT fall down to his level and start disrespecting or abusing him. That could result in both of the users getting banned.
Wanna learn more?
[Lists]Guide Ride-From a Newbie to a Dev, Get all you need here
[READ FIRST] [REF] Dictionary for n00b - What is.../What does ...mean?
This thread will always be a 'Work in Progress'. Please post any suggestions/questions/additions/feedback
I suggest making it sticky.
Great work , much appreciated :good:
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Great job on this topic. Just 2 things: Undervolt is most commonly used. Also " therefor " has an e at the end( Therefore ).
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therefor: adv. for that [thing]; for that, for it
Ex. I will give you my pocket knife if you will give me your watch therefor.
therefore: adv.consequently, hence
Ex. I think, therefore I am. I was afraid; therefore I ran.
me4488 said:
Great job on this topic. Just 2 things: Undervolt is most commonly used. Also " therefor " has an e at the end( Therefore ).
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therefor: adv. for that [thing]; for that, for it
Ex. I will give you my pocket knife if you will give me your watch therefor.
therefore: adv.consequently, hence
Ex. I think, therefore I am. I was afraid; therefore I ran.
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1) If I'm not mistaken, our phone does not have a kernel with undervolt support right?
2) I know the meaning/spelling of therefore. Must be a typing mistake. Haha
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1) If I'm not mistaken, our phone does not have a kernel with underclock support right?
2) I know the meaning/spelling of therefore. Must be a typing mistake. Haha
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Thanks for taking that in mind man <3 I'm just a grammar nazi, sorry bout that. And I undervolted it to 75 MHz.
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Thanks for taking that in mind man <3 I'm just a grammar nazi, sorry bout that. And I undervolted it to 75 MHz.
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I think there is a misunderstanding between us. There s a difference between underclock and undervolt. What you are talking about is underclock. Undervolt has got to do with how much voltage the battery is supplying. We can reduce it to save battery but it causes stability issues.
PS - I'm all for correct grammar too And Congratulations on becoming a senior member! :good:
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Added - How to save battery?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276( save battery+performance).
aashay960 said:
I think there is a misunderstanding between us. There s a difference between underclock and undervolt. What you are talking about is underclock. Undervolt has got to do with how much voltage the battery is supplying. We can reduce it to save battery but it causes stability issues.
PS - I'm all for correct grammar too And Congratulations on becoming a senior member! :good:
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I am a senior member? Wow xD Thanks for actually telling me, i dont pay attention to that stuff. If you dont mind, im going to look for some more stuff that you can add here so we can make this more helpfull. For example, you can dedicate a little paragraph for task killers. Here is the link Cons (and no pros)
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I am a senior member? Wow xD Thanks for actually telling me, i dont pay attention to that stuff. If you dont mind, im going to look for some more stuff that you can add here so we can make this more helpfull. For example, you can dedicate a little paragraph for task killers. Here is the link Cons (and no pros)
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Thanks bro. Any help would be appreciated. My college started today so I'm gonna be super busy. My college is 1 and a half hour away from my home!
But I will still continue to give my time and effort for this forum because i love it and the people here.
Ohh I have already read that article before!. But everyone seems to have a different view about task killers. I myself don't use it. So honestly I don't know what to believe..
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Ohh I have already read that article before!. But everyone seems to have a different view about task killers. I myself don't use it. So honestly I don't know what to believe..
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Ive seen recognized developers talk about how bad task killers are. I would rather believe them than the people who download task killers to have more ram which is actually unimportant. Like said in the article, the low memory killer does its job nicely without the need of additional help.
This and This
So my thought is completely against them.
Also keep your studies at 1st priority. :3
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Ive seen recognized developers talk about how bad task killers are. I would rather believe them than the people who download task killers to have more ram which is actually unimportant. Like said in the article, the low memory killer does its job nicely without the need of additional help.
This and This
So my thought is completely against them.
Also keep your studies at 1st priority. :3
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Looks good. I use watchdog too.. I will add it soon :thumbup:
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