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Hi all. I've decided to try and make some future Microsoft product "my idea", so I've submitted the following letter to them via billg [at] microsoft [dit] com. I just wanted to know if you guys had any input.
Flaming is sure to happen, and while I won't argue with you, I will probably wish your firstborn child is used as a shot put.
Dear Microsoft,
Lately I’ve been bombarded with commercial after commercial showing random people (and their self perceptions) stating that Windows 7 was their idea for one reason or another. I’m not completely disgusted by these or anything, but it started my mind on one of those winding roads a character in a story might have to take to get home, or to the girl, or to the climax, or… well I guess that is kind of repetitious – but the point is, I started thinking about the variety of Microsoft’s operating systems and the history they’ve had – rather, our history together.
I’ve used just about everything Microsoft has created… I started my computer “education” by soldering a few broken parts back together on a Commodore 64 I found in a dump, and then learning BASIC on it (the BASIC on the Commodore 64 was a variant created and licensed by Microsoft). Right now, I’m typing this in Microsoft Word, on a laptop that has Microsoft Windows Vista, being distracted by a cellular phone that runs Microsoft Windows Phone 6.5.
That was a mouthful when I read it aloud.
But the reason for this letter is not so much a history lesson, but a worry of what is to come. It seems the goal over there the past few years is some cross between being different and being more like Macintosh, or Google, or insert company name here, and I’m here to state that I don’t like the transformation the publicists and tech news sites are ranting and raving about.
A few examples?
- Most recently must be the attempt to remove the clipboard features from my phone. I say “attempt”, because I am willing to bet that will be brought back, either by you or some developers out there.
- Office 2007’s menu structure looks like someone tried to “make it better” and ruined it.
- Windows Vista and Windows 7 both look like some kind of cross-dressing Microsoft product who was “supposed to be a Mac”.
What happens when you become so close to the competition that nobody can tell you apart? Developers and IT teams may not like parts of Windows, but they are able adjust most of what they don’t like to work for them. If this path continues, and all of the contenders out there do the exact same thing, you’re really shooting yourselves in the collective foot by taking away your uniqueness.
I guess what I’m really trying to say is “different” does not equal “better”. Get back to your roots and make something that your current audience will buy. Put them above the “new customers” you’re trying to reach. It’s the same error that many companies make nowadays – neglecting the long time customers for some new ones. You end up losing great customers that way.
See, I am a man. There’s an expression stating that men marry women expecting them to be the same, and women marry men expecting that they’ll change. I feel like Microsoft is giving in to the women out there – the ones who complain about it being too hard to use or not pretty enough – and we have enough of that already. I’m not trying to hate on women out there, but maybe the movie Team America explained it best… something about assholes, dicks, and ******* (I won’t go into it, but watch the movie if you need an explanation). What we need is for Microsoft to be a **** again.
Good luck and happy creating,
(Name Removed)
P.S. This email was sent using Microsoft Outlook.
Thanks in advance for any feedback,
Drunk
oooh nice
so did they reply back and what did the email say?
anyway nice letter
no replies yet, but I just sent it last night.
Mad props for Team America reference =P
the whole my idea is just a commercial not a real deal imho
http://gizmodo.com/5477384/windows-7-was-my-idea-but-to-be-fair-i-dont-know-what-im-talking-about
I don't doubt that it is just a big marketing gimick, but I wanted to explain that it looks like they are listening to people's ideas - just the wrong ones.
I'm waiting for them to show the ads on TV which make the claim that W7 has fewer clicks so I can report it to the ASA.
Starting a program like solitaire with the mouse is either the same number (if you don't mind a 2 second wait) or one more click than XP/Vista.
As for getting to the network card properties that's a heck of a lot more clicks than Vista or XP.
W7 has some very well thought out features, but unfortunately it's got more that just aren't.
I hate MS for putting me in a position where I have to say I prefer Vista! Damn them! Damn them to Hades!
WM7 looks awful, and the restrictions they're putting on it make no user or business sense.
Office 2007 is appauling, what were they thinking? Why make an application which users have to refer to google in order to complete simple common tasks?
Don't expect a reply, Drunk, at least something that isn't just generically polite and thanking you for your thoughtful input.
You blended good points that resonate with much of their shrinking user base, made up partly by people who have no idea they're running Microsoft and also in part by people who are obsessed with modifying them, with that bit on genitals. They're not interested in us anymore, nor would they want to add a lot of attention to your letter by giving you something from them to paste on and spread around. They want to intercept people from buying the other phones with no regard to who's already buying their own phones, and you can't really blame them considering how fast they're still falling (down 4% last quarter) toward obscurity.
Just to offer myself as an example of others reading what you just posted and what may be on their own minds, considering I made two websites about the damn thing, I'd say I was a bonafide WinMo fanatic, one of the last expected to say adios, but I just did, a Nexus One, and not only will I continue to love and go nuts with it I will attempt to take others with me. It's brewing right here on XDA, the place you'd think would be the haven mainly for people who like to do what can mostly only be done exclusively with WinMo phones.
Actually I read this by mistake, forgot to get rid of all my WinMo rss feeds on Google Reader to which my phone's synced. Good read though, glad you posted it. So thanks.
But no matter how much rabble you rouse here nor what signs you wave in front of their Seattle office you won't stop this train, the general direction of which they've made it clear that they are taking with WP7 being mostly the opposite of what a lot of us want. They can't please everyone and they'd rather please would-otherwise-be customers of their competitors even at the expense of estranging themselves from part of their existing customers. On the bright side, in addition to there being other options (specifically the one I took), they claim they'll keep supporting existing versions of WinMo for at least a while, though not forever on new devices I don't think which will have unique hardware that if I heard correctly won't even have removable storage, not to mention any support for decentralized application distribution. You don't like the sound of what's coming but what's coming is in their opinion good for business and I suppose mine too. When you're already failing at this rate in such a critical time of penetrating a huge market with enormous potential that will be realized further and further every day, it's hard to come up with a dumb idea on how to do things differently. Not to mention I've seen quite a few extremists shrug off each new bit of bad news saying Whatever I'll still try it, and once they do, then Microsoft has got them for at least a long enough period of time to figure out how to keep them hooked while they intercept little bits of business from the others. Right now they're handing business away. It's a joke.
Making sure the likes of you and others on sites like XDA remain happy customers as they implement these drastic changes to their mobile operations is not high up on their to do list.
Just sayin'.
Doug
Can't say I don't agree with you on most of that. I honestly don't expect much of a reply... at most a blanket letter or something like that. I've also been working my way to other vendors. I've got some android variant on my TP2 now and Ubuntu on my laptop (both still dual boots, but it's a step that direction). I just didn't want it all to happen without my 2 cents' worth being thrown at them.
Thanks for stopping by.
I hear you man, I'm all about ranting. This and this in particular. Also this.
Take a look at that and mobilitydigest.com (basically the same with a less weird domain), you'd make a great writer. Perfect style, perfect background (impressive by the way), perfect fire in your belly. We can't yet offer you money but what we can give you is an audience. Let me know.
"but I wanted to explain that it looks like they are listening to people's ideas - just the wrong ones."
yeah with the whole win phone 7 seeming like being a copy of the features of org iphone sure sounds like they are getting bad advice
Nintendo pisses me off. Their naivety blows me away sometimes and since naivety is my biggest pet peeve, Nintendo just makes my blood boil often.
First off, they release a system that is behind the mark when it comes to graphics, yet they believe that the usual rainbow-pop BS that is Nintendo and their wonderfully novel motion controllers will make Nintendo survive forever.
I yell at the computer showing me article after article back in the day, yelling that novelty doesn't last (as long as quality). A year ago, Nintendo CEO gets bitter and yells at developers for not making all their games for Nintendo (duh, AGAIN, novelty doesn't LAST).
Now, http://news.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nintendo-apple-is-enemy-of-the-future/8248
Nintendo thinks their biggest rival is Apple. I'm not privy to what Apple users are actually doing with their devices (although I do know that sheep tend to all do the same thing together), but apparently they play games. Nintendo reports losses this past quarter and now they respond with EVEN MORE NAIVETY.
I just want to yell at the screen again. It's not Apple that's killing your sales. It's your LACK of continuous development and innovation. You can't ride high on garbage graphics, novel controlling, and game schemes that mostly appeal to women and children, who don't spend a great amount (of money) on gaming in the first place. I laugh when I see someone actually buying DS games in the store. R4 anyone?
Nintendo just doesn't get it. They should have already been in development of a Wii HD and should really be moving on something that can compete with Natal this holiday season. Plus, where is the DS that can do more than game and chat with other DS users in the vain of teenage girls? Where is the DS that doesn't rely on homebrew apps to give it some degree of functionality? They should also get away, at least for half of the time, from that novel rainbow-poppy BS that they specialize in that makes them the poster-child for homosexual gaming...
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The sad thing is, no matter how much you hate Nintendo, they have the best-selling video games and video game franchises of all time.
"They" referring to Nintendo exclusives. This does not necessarily mean Nintendo made the games themselves.
JAguirre1231 said:
The sad thing is, no matter how much you hate Nintendo, they have the best-selling video games and video game franchises of all time.
"They" referring to Nintendo exclusives. This does not necessarily mean Nintendo made the games themselves.
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Which is why I cry when I hear about people like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse making any money. I HATE when S**T sells. Wii sells a ton and George W. Bush gets elected twice. LOTS of dumb people in this world (other example: iPhone)
I agree 100%. Graphics are bad and their just so dated. I think im gonna go get that Peppa Pig game.... Looks fun!
The problem with the Wii is not the graphics, but the games.
It has 3 times or more the PS2 power, and the PS2 has some of the best games ever.
I have a Wii, it was collecting dust for a year and a half until I just recently bought Monster Hunter Tri, it's an awesome game. Also, your statement on buying DS games I pretty much agree with. I have an R4, but the only games I've actually bought for the DS are Pokemon Diamond, Platinum, and Soul Silver.
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Which is why I cry when I hear about people like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse making any money. I HATE when **** sells. Wii sells a ton and George W. Bush gets elected twice. LOTS of dumb people in this world (other example: iPhone)
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amy winehouse isn't that bad. the band that recorded the album isn't, at least...
and the wii has no real competitors so far (ps3 has those controlers soon, but who owns a ps3? )
but yeah I agree!!
rorytmeadows said:
Which is why I cry when I hear about people like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse making any money. I HATE when S**T sells. Wii sells a ton and George W. Bush gets elected twice. LOTS of dumb people in this world (other example: iPhone)
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Please, don't use foul language.
Okay, you see...there are many things about present day Nintendo that really do piss me off. Really. But, the thing is...there is nothing they can do now, or in the infinite future, that will ever change the fact that NINTENDO IS THE GREATEST VIDEO GAME COMPANY THAT HAS EVER OR WILL EVER EXIST. This is simply inarguable.
In reality, the reason why I'm so pissed off at Nintendo's BS these days is because their past was so glorious. I'm going to call 1985 to 1995 the decade of Nintendo. It peaked, an incredibly high peak, with the SNES. During the 16 bit era we had a Nintendo that not only made high-end hardware, but also successfully courted 3rd party developers to produce games for it.
Now Nintendo does neither of those things. But it still does not matter because they to this day produce the best video games on the planet. The small handful of Shigeru Miyamoto produced Mario/Zelda/Metroid games released by Nintendo easily make up for years of crappy mini-game packed cooking/dog walking simulators and rainbow colored pokemon sequels.
Now if you enjoy playing 25 new first person shooters every year on your 360/ps3 you will probably think I'm nuts. I realize I'm in the minority here. Quite frankly there are almost no games on Microsoft or Sony's consoles that interest me at all. And given that the hardware in both those machines is over 5 years old now, with absolutely no word yet of anything next-gen, I'm not too hung up on the Wii's underpowered nature.
So the way I see it, all three console manufacturers are currently riding on s**t graphics and s**t games for the most part, one or two exceptions per console per year does not change that.
And if Nintendo really is loosing money now, it's just a dent on the enormous pile of cash they have built up from selling the Wii and DS. MS and Sony have only recently started seeing profits from selling their hardware, so it is in their best interests to prolong the life of their machines for as long as possible to justify the high initial loses. This puts Nintendo in a position to release modern high-end video game hardware with almost no competition, at least for awhile. They should call the new machine the SNES 2 and it would have Super Mario World built into its BIOS. OMG who can I kill to make this happen.
Of course it won't though...not as long as there is a never ending supply of idiots who think that standing on a Nintendo branded slab of plastic will make them loose weight.
tsk tsk Nintendo, I still love you because of the games. If you are going to invest in any new hardware, make sure that it has something to do with granting Shigeru Miyamoto's immortality by hooking his brain up to a supercomputer.
MooGoo said:
Now Nintendo does neither of those things. But it still does not matter because they to this day produce the best video games on the planet. The small handful of Shigeru Miyamoto produced Mario/Zelda/Metroid games released by Nintendo easily make up for years of crappy mini-game packed cooking/dog walking simulators and rainbow colored pokemon sequels.
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Zelda = lame
Metroid = lame
Mario and Mario Kart are the only thing going for Nintendo gamewise. I miss thousands of hours on Goldeneye and WaveRace. Party games and Smash Bros are terrible games; NO WAY will I like a game that rewards my little brother beating me at a game that he wins just by mashing the keypad. I understand the novelty of a Wii, but my brothers and I made fun of my mother for years for moving her controller 3 feet in the direction she wanted to jump on SNES and GameCube Mario games, so NO WAY will I like a system that rewards that goofy stuff.
Nintendo will always dominate the market if they never sacrifice hardware performance for novelty again. The largest sellers are 1st person shooters. If they made a system that developers wanted to utilize for FPS games, they would dominate the market beyond what novelty can do. Well, that and they don't crap out a system marketed for all of the most annoying children in the world.
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So the way I see it, all three console manufacturers are currently riding on s**t graphics and s**t games for the most part, one or two exceptions per console per year does not change that.
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What part of "no foul language" was unclear in the post immediately above yours?
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What part of "no foul language" was unclear in the post immediately above yours?
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The "no foul language" part.
I'll go with Metroid being lame. I have not really the series since Super Metroid anyway. But ZELDA NOT LAME K:ALSUDJLKAJ:SDLK
Maybe the style is a bit done to death but the recent versions of it still kick ass, especially the DS ones.
And I'm sure you agree Super Mario Galaxy (and soon 2 omg) and Super Mario New Wii (not the mediocre DS version) totally make up for Nintendo's wiimote shaking obsession. Well not totally...
With all this wrists flailing wiimote madness, it is easy to forget that Nintendo ever managed to produce something like SNES controller. In Super Mario World, if you wanted to spin jump, you just pressed the X button. But in Super Mario New Wii, you have to shake the controller like an idiot and risk smacking someone in the face and breaking your TV if you forgot to put the strap around your wrist.
I wish Nintendo would have kept it simple I really do. The only games I actually play on the Wii are the ones that still use buttons as the main controls.
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What part of "no foul language" was unclear in the post immediately above yours?
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I'm sorry I forgot I was still in grade school. This is the first time I've ever been censored here; my, and many other peoples foul language seems to have gone unnoticed before. Did I miss some kind of memo?
They got these things built into boards called filters you know, that can asterisk out naughty language before it is able to warp the delicate minds of the 13 year olds who post here.
If you're also talking about sales than I think you're wrong 'cause the DS outsold the PSP and the WII outsold the PS3 and XBOX 360.
If you think Nintendo doesn't know what they're doing then you're wrong.
But if you just don't like the games that people developed for Nintendo, then I think it's the game developers fault too.
But then again my sources are Wikipedia.
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I'm sorry I forgot I was still in grade school. This is the first time I've ever been censored here; my, and many other peoples foul language seems to have gone unnoticed before. Did I miss some kind of memo?
They got these things built into boards called filters you know, that can asterisk out naughty language before it is able to warp the delicate minds of the 13 year olds who post here.
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You mean this memo?
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
[highlight]There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks[/highlight]. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. For this reason we'd like to ask you to refrain from discussions about religion or politics, we do not wish to limit your right to free speech, but we have noticed these topics tend to get heated and might be best discussed in a different environment. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
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We don't get everyone, but we do act on the people that we do see.
nintendo's only good games at this point are ones made by nintendo themselves. Theyve been ignoring that fact because of how well financially the Wii has been doing, but first party games alone can never support a console without any quality third party titles to back them up. Nintendo's in for a wake up call real soon.
I'm sorry I forgot I was still in grade school. This is the first time I've ever been censored here; my, and many other peoples foul language seems to
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You mean this memo?
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different
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We don't get everyone, but we do act on the people that we do see.
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Yes, but IN REGARDS TO being "polite and respectful to your fellow xda-dev user". Forgive me if I don't read into that sentance a sweeping ban against all "bad words" however benign.
If XDA really wants to enforce such childish rules, state it clearly and unequivocally. "There is no need" is hardly a definative statement for banning something so common especially when you proceede to list cursing and racism in the same breath.
And besides, if you insist on being forum Nazi's the least you could do is enable automatic profanity filtering. Either that or just edit my post without leaving the added indignant reply.
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Yes, but IN REGARDS TO being "polite and respectful to your fellow xda-dev user". Forgive me if I don't read into that sentance a sweeping ban against all "bad words" however benign.
If XDA really wants to enforce such childish rules, state it clearly and unequivocally. "There is no need" is hardly a definative statement for banning something so common especially when you proceede to list cursing and racism in the same breath.
And besides, if you insist on being forum Nazi's the least you could do is enable automatic profanity filtering. Either that or just edit my post without leaving the added indignant reply.
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Wow this was a good read until you just threw up on here. The one thing that got me to actually have to reply:
"added indignant reply."
Really? You can't see how you're the one actually being a jerk to begin with all because you did exactly what he just told the other guy not to? That's just a slap in the face, and that's 10 times worse that cursing in the first place, on the disrespect subject. God don't flame me, just think about it. Refusing to admit a wrong doesn't show education.
Anyways! On topic!
Well, sadly, whoever said Wii sold more than PS3 and Xbox 360 is correct. You have to stop and think, though. Wii really is for all ages. I enjoy it now and again, and I'm 19. It's for family fun, not competition or winning.
Also, it's very popular for the younger generation. My 8 year old nieces cannot even play a Xbox 360, yet they CAN play a Wii. Now, I go into my room and shoot people all night on a 360, but go in the living room to play Wii with them and my sister who's 28.
And, that's what it boils down too. Wii sells more because it adheres to almost every age group/gender except for teenage males - middle aged males. Those age/gender groups may play it, but will never own one for personal use unless you're a young father or something along those lines. Older people don't want to shoot people - most older people can't even use a 360 controller to shoot someone if they wanted to. They also mostly disapprove of it. They also disapprove of shooting games for their children. (I know, you think violent video games and kids is such bs, but talk to some old schools it really is a legitimate argument.) Thats for another subject, though. There are VERY little family orientated games for the 360 or PS3.
Pretty much same with DS. I play it often with my fiancée. I've actually considered buying two of them just so I can play with her. Would I ever play it without her? No. MAYBE Super Mario (my nieces got me hooked on it helping them beat levels and what not) but never another game.
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, I think Nintendo is a on a good/strong track. They're the only real major gaming company that tries hard to apply to all generations. Well, they try much harder than any other.
Probably missed some things, got a little confusing going back and trying to reorder it to make it flow.
r3s-rt said:
Wow this was a good read until you just threw up on here. The one thing that got me to actually have to reply:
"added indignant reply."
Really? You can't see how you're the one actually being a jerk to begin with all because you did exactly what he just told the other guy not to? That's just a slap in the face, and that's 10 times worse that cursing in the first place, on the disrespect subject. God don't flame me, just think about it. Refusing to admit a wrong doesn't show education.
Anyways! On topic!
Well, sadly, whoever said Wii sold more than PS3 and Xbox 360 is correct. You have to stop and think, though. Wii really is for all ages. I enjoy it now and again, and I'm 19. It's for family fun, not competition or winning.
Also, it's very popular for the younger generation. My 8 year old nieces cannot even play a Xbox 360, yet they CAN play a Wii. Now, I go into my room and shoot people all night on a 360, but go in the living room to play Wii with them and my sister who's 28.
And, that's what it boils down too. Wii sells more because it adheres to almost every age group/gender except for teenage males - middle aged males. Those age/gender groups may play it, but will never own one for personal use unless you're a young father or something along those lines. Older people don't want to shoot people - most older people can't even use a 360 controller to shoot someone if they wanted to. They also mostly disapprove of it. They also disapprove of shooting games for their children. (I know, you think violent video games and kids is such bs, but talk to some old schools it really is a legitimate argument.) Thats for another subject, though. There are VERY little family orientated games for the 360 or PS3.
Pretty much same with DS. I play it often with my fiancée. I've actually considered buying two of them just so I can play with her. Would I ever play it without her? No. MAYBE Super Mario (my nieces got me hooked on it helping them beat levels and what not) but never another game.
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, I think Nintendo is a on a good/strong track. They're the only real major gaming company that tries hard to apply to all generations. Well, they try much harder than any other.
Probably missed some things, got a little confusing going back and trying to reorder it to make it flow.
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Yes, we are aware that the Wii is marketed for all ages. But that is not where the money is. Everyone knows that the money market is not only people 18-34, but especially males 18-34. I'm a little sick of Nintendo whining every time they report low earnings or don't have developers jump into making hot third-party titles for the Wii. They don't get that because their system isn't marketed for the money making demographic. I think only in Japan are the age demos are off from the rest of the world. There are plenty of 30-year-old Japanese that seems to be into that pop-rainbow BS that Nintendo craps out constantly. That's fine, but that's not the rest of the world.
Read it and post your opinions on the matter.
http://piratemw.blogspot.com/
I feel it covers ground and is fair to all sides.
2 spelling mistakes in the first sentence alone makes me think it's the gibbering of an idiot.
Didn't bother reading the rest.
To be honest, I don't think "the best article" on anything "to date" will ever appear on a blogspot site.
Moved as not software release.
elyl said:
2 spelling mistakes in the first sentence alone makes me think it's the gibbering of an idiot.
Didn't bother reading the rest.
To be honest, I don't think "the best article" on anything "to date" will ever appear on a blogspot site.
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it may not be the best but it may worth be reading.everybody is not fluent in english
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elyl said:
2 spelling mistakes in the first sentence alone makes me think it's the gibbering of an idiot.
Didn't bother reading the rest.
To be honest, I don't think "the best article" on anything "to date" will ever appear on a blogspot site.
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What spelling mistakes? You dont even know english and your talking about me. Stupid mofo hahahaha
No need to throw insults about like that
EDIT: Just read it. The ultimate truth? No. I see A LOT of 'good' software that has been pirated, that has come from big developers and the little guy just starting out. They crack for fun/addiction/because they think they are rebels etc, whatever the reason they will do it because THEY CAN, not because there are ethics involved. Seriously, which major company went "Hey guys, our software got pirated on the first day and we didn't make any money from it, let's release something truly innovative so they won't pirate it." Sorry, that is NOT the 'ultimate truth'.
What a pointless article (IMO).
this is bull ****. there are lots of apps cracked that cost only like $10 made by some developer that only has this tiny simple but cool app that most find usefull. So this developer gets 1000 apps sold over 1.000.000 cracked downloads.
Now lets just steel that new Toyota car because it's only a little design change from the last model and some minor changes to the breaks system.
zarpy said:
What spelling mistakes? You dont even know english and your talking about me. Stupid +++ hahahaha
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Please refrain from using bad lenguage and insulting your fellow members
the response
Ok
1) If you read the whole summary of the truth about piracy Iam not saying piracy is good on a whole level. But if there was no piracy , the games made would be old rehashed garbage. Look at Gameloft games for windows mobile. They basically make the same game over and over with different graphics. That to me is theft selling us non-sense with pretty package.
I know people from both sides of this war. Developers from xda-developers,ppc geeks, and pirates like ppcwarez . Iam not going to sit here and say lets take the developers side on all issues. Thats non-sense , Iam a freeware developer myself , with commercial software too. One-sided thinking will just continue the war. I do support the independent developers , for they make truely innovative original software.
As far as the insult...the man called me out 1st...I just responded.
zarpy said:
Ok
1) If you read the whole summary of the truth about piracy Iam not saying piracy is good on a whole level. But if there was no piracy , the games made would be old rehashed garbage. Look at Gameloft games for windows mobile. They basically make the same game over and over with different graphics. That to me is theft selling us non-sense with pretty package.
I know people from both sides of this war. Developers from xda-developers,ppc geeks, and pirates like ppcwarez . Iam not going to sit here and say lets take the developers side on all issues. Thats non-sense , Iam a freeware developer myself , with commercial software too. One-sided thinking will just continue the war. I do support the independent developers , for they make truely innovative original software.
As far as the insult...the man called me out 1st...I just responded.
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Very interesting
Just make donateware
I immediately think that you're trying to get traffic to your own website rather than discuss the matter here. So rather than go there and read it, I'll discuss it here at XDA, where I'd rather keep my attention and loyalty.
Any law that basically says making a mixed tape for someone else is illegal is complete garbage and media companies can take it and shove it up their a**.
Any law that says I cannot "loan" a movie to someone else, even a complete stranger, and that I have to be responsible for the actions of the person I loaned it to is complete garbage and media companies can take it and shove it up their a**.
Any law that says I'm responsible for what happens to something I loaned someone else is complete garbage and media companies can take that law and shove it up their a**.
Any law that tells me what I can or cannot do with my own property is complete garbage and media companies can take it and shove it up their a**.
Stop enforcing 100-year-old copyright law for media medium that doesn't fit into the law.
Donate to the EFF
http://www.eff.org/
Rorymeadows
Ok rorymeadows
1) The link i provided is not to my website but to my blog. All you do is read blogs not join them. My website is www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com and I didnt direct anyone there
2) You blame me saying Iam redirecting people and your loyal to xda-developers? If your so loyal to xda , why are you posting a redirect and telling people to donate to another website? Before you call someone out, check yourself.
Everything else you said , I agree with.
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Ok rorymeadows
1) The link i provided is not to my website but to my blog. All you do is read blogs not join them. My website is www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com and I didnt direct anyone there
2) You blame me saying Iam redirecting people and your loyal to xda-developers? If your so loyal to xda , why are you posting a redirect and telling people to donate to another website? Before you call someone out, check yourself.
Everything else you said , I agree with.
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EFF is a professional organization. Yours is a shameless plug for a teen online journal. Please stay on topic.
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Its you who forces companies to make better and innovative software hoping if they make great software, then people will buy them.
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Sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever. By the same reasoning, stealing televisions should force the manufacturers to make better ones. That is simply wrong.
Not to offend, but to be clear, I find your arguments blinkered and naive. Piracy has very little to do with sticking it to big companies. 99% of the time it's about getting something for free.
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Sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever. By the same reasoning, stealing televisions should force the manufacturers to make better ones. That is simply wrong.
Not to offend, but to be clear, I find your arguments blinkered and naive. Piracy has very little to do with sticking it to big companies. 99% of the time it's about getting something for free.
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I agree. It's not about sticking it to big companies. It should be about revolution with digital media and laws, and electronic freedom.
fairness
So judging by the comments so far , both of you believe hacking and cracking software only hurt companies and developers. Also you believe is there was no more software pirates, that would benefit the consumer. The major companies say the same , cracked software leads to high priced games.
1)False= cracked software does not lead to high priced games. I remember super nintendo was charging $40-$60 a game. So that is false statement.
2)Facted= Cracked and pirated software has been around since early 80's,90's . People were happy around that time period with quality of thier software, so people didnt look for free downloads or cracked software. This isnt just about games Iam including the industry as a whole. This includes movies,music,and video games.
Opinion= I believe once those 3 industries started to make rehashed and low quality products, people started looking toward pirated software. If this isnt true, then this issue would have come up a long time ago.
Now to rorymeadows , no Iam not a teen and I dont sound or act like one.
I have absolutely no idea how you got any of what you said from my post, but you're wrong. That's not what I'm saying at all. You're just assuming things.
I wonder what this post will be about!
Incidentally, you should look at the technological and social changes that have taken place over the last 30 years and factor that into your opinions. Piracy is a bigger issue now simply because it's in your face, in your living room, on the internet and on your PC. 30 years ago it was kids copying tapes with games on them, but no mass forums to make it publicly available. Music was copied, but it was time consuming so not done as quickly as it is today - the same goes for movies (tape-to-tape VHS recorders for example). Times have changed, but the essence of piracy hasn't. Lots of people like stuff that costs nothing. That is the only fact you can state.
Well there's another thing going on, too.
I was browsing the Microsoft Mobile Marketplace last night. One of the programs I found up there was Resco Photo Manager. $60. $60!!!!!!! For THAT?!?!?! A program that I'd probably use 10 times a year is $60??!?!?!?!
I used to work at the college dining hall back in undergrad. People used to steal and steal, pocking pop-tarts, walking out with drinks and subs without paying. It drove the price up more. Yes, stealing jumps the overhead and makes things costlier. But did that stop the stealing? No, in fact, it made it much worse.
johncmolyneux and rorytmeadows both are correct.
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I couldn't possibly care less about these sort of games. This puts me in, I'd venture, less than 3% of the young male population of this country who can buy an Xbox or whatnot in the first place.
Discuss.
Homework or a public speaking competition? Sweet Idea, will post my arguments once others give me ideas
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More like inciting a flame war. ^_^ j/k
I've never liked racing, shooting, or sports games, which I've found doesn't sit well with most men my age (22). Just wondering what fellow techies think.
Usually I get a "wow, I can't believe another human being has different tastes than me" response. I don't think I've ran into a "Wow you're so gay" response but it's only a matter of time. =/
ninestraycats said:
More like inciting a flame war. ^_^ j/k
I've never liked racing, shooting, or sports games, which I've found doesn't sit well with most men my age (22). Just wondering what fellow techies think.
Usually I get a "wow, I can't believe another human being has different tastes than me" response. I don't think I've ran into a "Wow you're so gay" response but it's only a matter of time. =/
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Yep same. I'm different to everyone in my school. Everyones got iphoned, I got a Desire, now everyones jealous haha.. anyways, I like racing and shooting games. Just the real ones. CoD and GT not things like killzone or WoW. Though I don't play often, every 2–3 weeks maybe, I do enjoy some adrenalin pumping through my veins when I due just begore the end of the mussion. It makes me more determined to finish correctly the next time etc..
Everyones always asking me when I'm online next to play a bit of CoD or whatever and I just don't understand how you can become addicted to something that doesn't actually exist. Well it does but not really, you know what I mean : )
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LOL been a gamer for too long. But I have never told anyone that they were "gay" because they didn't like to game.
But.. usually they were women.
well im different to everyone in my school.
most of the lads in my year like football and cod.
"medal of honor- is ****"
"driving games - ****"
"every other game apart from cod and fifa- is ****"
i have been called gay because i have long hair and i like rock music and drum and bass (and others).
i think the reason they call you gay is because they don't like people that are different and like other things.
about 1 year ago everyones phones where sony ericssons (crap ones)
and samsung tocco lites (horrible)
but 1 lad had a t-mobile g1.
i had my 7 year old htc himalaya brick (excellent phone)
now quite a few have htc's desires, hero, legend. (and obviously don't know about xda (what a pitty))
people seem to follow other people and call you weird because you are not following.
sorry if i drifted off topic.
i like driving games, fps (half-life excellent!!)
im a gran turismo guy i love that game, i also enjoy a nice helping of cod now and then too, i cant stand football soccer or basketball games though
COD - meh
FIFA - meh
GT5 - drool
Well, an explanation is warranted for the above...
I never really got the hang of FPS games in multiplayer, mostly because I used to pwn at CounterStrike and Half-Life, but a hiatus during my formative days (read, TEENAGE) lost my edge in FPS games. Mostly I will check out the single player experience, and if it gains enough traction amongst my friends, I'll get the original copy. Mostly, for group enjoyment purposes, we game L4D if we wanna play FPS. I'm just waiting for Crysis 2 (as an excuse to upgrade my Gfx card more than anything else )
FIFA... well... is a game for douchetards who imagine that they have the skills needed to take Leo Messi/CR to whatever glories that in real life they couldn't achieve (both for the gamers and the players). Simply said, it gives little to none benefits, and merely act as an escapement and commercial device. For the more serious guys, we play futsal, which is like football played in a netball field. Pacing is fun, especially since players with less stamina can join in and height doesn't bring that much of a benefit (read, GIRLS CAN PLAY TOO). And for the brainiacs, we play Football Manager 2011.
GT5 is going to be something of a old history for me. It's more of a nostalgia device than something of real enjoyment. Back in the days, me and my brother played GT1, GT2, GT3, and probably GT4. To my brother, who is an engineer by now, it is the most accurate depiction of a car on the race-track. I'll skip the nostalgia bit... Anyway, since neither of us own a PS3, and neither of us plans to own a PS3, this game will forever reside in the droolworthy section of our hindbrains, possibly forever.
The problem with me is I'm probably in the less than 0.05% zone. I'm a self-professed geek that likes to party and do sports. I could, enjoyably, spend the afternoon tinkering with my PC/phone or just dump everything to hang out with friends, chilling out and maybe finding the answers to life (we checked, its not 42).
So gaming is cool and all that, but it's not the be all and end all for me
Gotta say... I love GT5 lol. I think I like it more than GT3 or 4 because I'm actually trying now lol. I used to have a Game Shark, Code Breaker, and Action Replay to cheat my way to having (basically) infinite cash, the AI guys wouldn't move, and every car would have like 16x acceleration lol. It made it fun cause I could get what I wanted when I wanted, but ruined the sense of accomplishment needed to make it feel way better. I actually HAVE to try and succeed in this now, which is awesome imo.
Call of Duty is cool, but I'm not into it as much anymore as I am with GT5 now.
FIFA is a game I'll never play. I don't do sports, nor like them; especially soccer.
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sakai4eva said:
To my brother, who is an engineer by now, it is the most accurate depiction of a car on the race-track.
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That is VERY cool and I didn't know that. Sucker as I am for new experiences, it makes me want to play it again with this knowledge.
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Pacing is fun, especially since players with less stamina can join in and height doesn't bring that much of a benefit (read, GIRLS CAN PLAY TOO).
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Haha, I hope I'm reading your implications right: b/c size isn't an issue, women can play the sport side-by-side with men. The other implication would be a little... off-putting. >.<
flyboyovyick said:
well im different to everyone in my school.
i have been called gay because i have long hair and i like rock music and drum and bass (and others).
i think the reason they call you gay is because they don't like people that are different and like other things.
i like driving games, fps (half-life excellent!!)
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Sorry I paraphrased your Quote
1) Nothing wrong with Long Hair and playing Bass. I did both for a long time - but now the hair fell out and I play a little guitar (i.e. it stares at me taunting me on the wall collecting dust due to RL stealing all my time)
2) Your unique... just like everybody else
3) Half Life is probably the BEST GAME EVER. And I'm a sucker for driving games. I haven't purchased GT yet as I know my wife would kill me while I was going around the track at 4am.
YOU DON'T LIKE THOSE GAMES!!! wow!!, i didn't know another human being could have such different taste to me.
But seriously 'normal' at my school is f'd up compared to everybody elses, screamo metalheads and emos rule the street and jocks are considered to be on the same level as the scum you find in public toilets... its a weird place.
Im lucky anyway because im a self admitted nerd at school but for some strange reason nobody believes me? (WTF's with that!?!) Which is especially strange considering people are paying me to set up snow leopard hackintosh on their pc's.
My favorite shooter is Gears o' War 2 (can't really call it fps), but, uh, what do you guys think of bioshock? I personally don't like it, much to the disdain of all my friends who are obsessed with it.
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But seriously 'normal' at my school is f'd up compared to everybody elses, screamo metalheads and emos rule the street and jocks are considered to be on the same level as the scum you find in public toilets... its a weird place.
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Wow, that is strange. At my school there was no "jock" contingency either, but why would there necessarily have to be, stereotypes are stereotypes.
What IS indeed common to probably every school ever are cliques. I'm guessing it's the 'us vs. them' mentality that's so crucial to so many living things.
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FIFA?
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Soccer is the worst game (notice I didn't call it a sport) in the history of mankind.
Some people set their sights on climbing mountains before they die, but the nerds here yearn to delve deep into open-source operating systems, mobile apps, and games. What's on your list?
Here are 50 Geeky Things to Do Before Die!
PCs
Learn to program.
Try an open-source operating system.
Set my system so that it can dual-boot.
Teach a child to use a PC.
Teach a relative to fix their own PC.
Build a computer from spare parts.
Start my own Tumblr blog.
Set up an array of at least three monitors.
Build a media center PC.
Build a media center PC--for my car.
Mobile
Root the phone.
Try every mobile OS at least once.
Build own mobile app.
Have smartphone battery last all day.
Control my house using my phone.
Complete a call on an iPhone without its cutting off.
Beat every level on Angry Birds and get three stars.
Find something to play on my phone that isn't an Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja, or Cut The Rope clone.
Develop a best-selling iPhone game.
Master the art of typing on a touchscreen (without using autocorrect).
Destroy an iPhone - conantroutman Suggestion
Gaming
Beat Day[9] at Starcraft II.
Participate in a World of Warcraft raid.
Win a game of Solitaire.
Build a virtual-reality machine for first-person shooter games--and play a collection of the best FPS games ever created in it. (Contributed on Facebook by Peter Drake)
Beat a Metal Slug game on one quarter.
Beat Minesweeper in under a minute.
Participate in (or host) a LAN party.
Beat Doom II.
Create my own Starcraft and/or first-person shooter level.
Participate in a Dungeons and Dragons campaign.
Hacking
Join a hackerspace.
Learn how to solder.
Program in BASIC.
Learn to use Arduino.
Make a wearable PC--or maybe a hackable wristwatch.
3D-print something.
Build a robot.
Build a robot out of Lego bricks.
Install Android on every gadget imaginable.
Create a Kinect hack.
Tech Tourism
Become a space tourist.
Stage a gruesome scene for the Google Street View truck.
Track down a geocache and then leave my mark.
Visit the Computer History Museum in Silicon Valley.
Make a pilgrimage to Athens and see the Antikythera Mechanism.
Take a geek cruise to kill kobolds in the Caribbean, or to talk Macs over Merlot as I cruise up the Pacific coast.
Break into Area 51. Bonus points: Break out of Area 51.
Fly a jetpack.
Visit the Large Hadron Collider. (Contributed on Facebook by Tracey Pritchett)
Experience zero-gravity flight aboard a Boeing 727 vomit comet.
Do you think that some other stuff should be added?
Destroy an iPhone???
Yeah, that would be great. Added to the list
Yes!
Burning an iphoney
Will it blend? That is the question.
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Will it blend? That is the question.
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LOL
I just want to go to Defcon at least once.
so i did most of the above, does that make me a geek?
Got a few ideas.
1) own a large box of obsolete computer/av cables.
2) memorise large parts of douglas adams, hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.
3) own a peice of of scifi or fantasy film/tv memorabilia.
4) have a really geeky tattoo.
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Blend a Ipad
Looks like I'm quite the geek:
nathanpc said:
Some people set their sights on climbing mountains before they die, but the nerds here yearn to delve deep into open-source operating systems, mobile apps, and games. What's on your list?
Here are 50 Geeky Things to Do Before Die!
PCs
Learn to program. I unlearned how to program.
Try an open-source operating system. I have a Super OS boot
Set my system so that it can dual-boot. Done
Teach a child to use a PC. Done.
Teach a relative to fix their own PC. Done. Hammer missing from toolbox
Build a computer from spare parts. More than once
Start my own Tumblr blog. Never!
Set up an array of at least three monitors. No $$$
Build a media center PC. PC is media centre
Build a media center PC--for my car. Car would be jacked in 15 minutes.
Mobile
Root the phone. 2 weeks after buying first smartphone
Try every mobile OS at least once. Done. Although mostly on loans
Build own mobile app. Next up
Have smartphone battery last all day. Too easy
Control my house using my phone. When I have a house
Complete a call on an iPhone without its cutting off. Only on 3GS. Be more specific next time
Beat every level on Angry Birds and get three stars. Challenge accepted
Find something to play on my phone that isn't an Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja, or Cut The Rope clone. Been there, done that
Develop a best-selling iPhone game. No interest on iPhone
Master the art of typing on a touchscreen (without using autocorrect).I used Swype... is that cheating?
Destroy an iPhone - conantroutman Suggestion I'd like to keep some friends, thank you.
Gaming
Beat Day[9] at Starcraft II. Nope
Participate in a World of Warcraft raid. Never played WoW, never plan to
Win a game of Solitaire. 12-years old when I did
Build a virtual-reality machine for first-person shooter games--and play a collection of the best FPS games ever created in it. (Contributed on Facebook by Peter Drake) Waiting for VR machine
Beat a Metal Slug game on one quarter. I'll never make it...
Beat Minesweeper in under a minute. 54 seconds on the highest level
Participate in (or host) a LAN party. One too many Cyber Cafe romps. Done since 14.
Beat Doom II. No plans to play an outdated game...
Create my own Starcraft and/or first-person shooter level. Done
Participate in a Dungeons and Dragons campaign. Does Baldur's Gate count?
Hacking
Join a hackerspace. Does XDA count?
Learn how to solder. 14 years old
Program in BASIC. Never be as awesome as that...
Learn to use Arduino. Challenge accepted
Make a wearable PC--or maybe a hackable wristwatch. Challenge accepted
3D-print something. Probably never buy a 3d printer
Build a robot. Built one out of cardboard
Build a robot out of Lego bricks. Lego technic counts?
Install Android on every gadget imaginable. Challenge accepted
Create a Kinect hack.Need to get a kinect, but Challenge accepted.
Tech Tourism
Become a space tourist. Need money and fitness, but Challenge Accepted
Stage a gruesome scene for the Google Street View truck. Waiting for Google's Street view to come to M'sia, but Challenge Accepted
Track down a geocache and then leave my mark.Challenge Accepted
Visit the Computer History Museum in Silicon Valley. No relatives in Cali. Very unlikely
Make a pilgrimage to Athens and see the Antikythera Mechanism.No relatives there. Very unlikely
Take a geek cruise to kill kobolds in the Caribbean, or to talk Macs over Merlot as I cruise up the Pacific coast. No relatives there. Very unlikely
Break into Area 51. Bonus points: Break out of Area 51. Guantanamo Bay counts?
Fly a jetpack.Need to build it first, but Challenge Accepted
Visit the Large Hadron Collider. (Contributed on Facebook by Tracey Pritchett) Challenge Accepted
Experience zero-gravity flight aboard a Boeing 727 vomit comet.DO WANT. Challenge Accepted!
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Need to work more!
Have a 5 and a quarter inch floppy disk hanging on a wall!
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get banned from xda (somthing tells me tho im doing pretty well with it)
I must have done about 15 of that list already!
Something like "Destroy an iPhone", well thats going to be impossible for me. Unless i go to the O2 shop and crack a screen on one (without getting caught).
PCs
Learn to program. - PHP, Java, C, C++, C#, Smalltalk, Fortran, LISP and ASP. Does SQL count?
Try an open-source operating system. - Linux Debian, obviously
Set my system so that it can dual-boot. - Windows 7 - Debian
Teach a child to use a PC. - Six year old nephew
Teach a relative to fix their own PC. - Mother via phone
Build a computer from spare parts. - Spend a day in the IT Department at a company and you have to.
Start my own Tumblr blog. - I have one. Rarely use it though.
Set up an array of at least three monitors. - Standard setup.
Build a media center PC. - Switched it to a media station box.
Build a media center PC--for my car. - No car anymore, though did have CD/MP3/DVD with USB and SD support.
Mobile
Root the phone. - Obviously.
Try every mobile OS at least once. - Symbian/BlackBerry OS/Android/iOS/Others I forget
Build own mobile app. - Basic ones.
Have smartphone battery last all day. - Once.
Control my house using my phone. - I have remote access for a lot of things via the internet and a need for a 48 port switch.
Complete a call on an iPhone without its cutting off. - Yes
Beat every level on Angry Birds and get three stars. - Then I flashed a rom and lost it.
Find something to play on my phone that isn't an Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja, or Cut The Rope clone. - Some space flight game.
Develop a best-selling iPhone game. - I wish, I'd be rich.
Master the art of typing on a touchscreen (without using autocorrect). - Swype.
Destroy an iPhone - conantroutman Suggestion - Why? I'd rather sell it or give it to a friend/family.
Gaming
Beat Day[9] at Starcraft II. - Haven't played in years.
Participate in a World of Warcraft raid. - Never played.
Win a game of Solitaire. - Yes.
Build a virtual-reality machine for first-person shooter games--and play a collection of the best FPS games ever created in it. (Contributed on Facebook by Peter Drake) - Sounds awesome, shall start tomorrow.
Beat a Metal Slug game on one quarter. - Don't know what this means.
Beat Minesweeper in under a minute. - Yes.
Participate in (or host) a LAN party. - Yes, school we used to do this and play Unreal at an old job.
Beat Doom II. - Never played.
Create my own Starcraft and/or first-person shooter level. - Nope.
Participate in a Dungeons and Dragons campaign. - Watched the cartoon when I was younger.
Hacking
Join a hackerspace. - A what? The Scene?
Learn how to solder. - At school. Used to throw solder balls at each other.
Program in BASIC. 10 GO TO 20
Learn to use Arduino. - Not sure what this is.
Make a wearable PC--or maybe a hackable wristwatch. - I've had wrist watch computer things before, used to read flashes from a PC screen.
3D-print something. - No need, I don't even own a printer.
Build a robot. - In school we half built for robot wars.
Build a robot out of Lego bricks. - Basic one, with the kit. Was awesome.
Install Android on every gadget imaginable. - PC and Phone. Might look at others soon.
Create a Kinect hack. - I've got Kinect, still not played it.
Tech Tourism
Become a space tourist. - I've been to a space thing at Seacomb.
Stage a gruesome scene for the Google Street View truck. - I've never seen it, however my back shows for the picture of where I live.
Track down a geocache and then leave my mark. - No, I've seen people on twitter and never really looked into it.
Visit the Computer History Museum in Silicon Valley. - Never left Europe, though surely Betchley House is more important?
Make a pilgrimage to Athens and see the Antikythera Mechanism. - I've been to Athens, don't think I did this.
Take a geek cruise to kill kobolds in the Caribbean, or to talk Macs over Merlot as I cruise up the Pacific coast. - Again never left Europe.
Break into Area 51. Bonus points: Break out of Area 51. - What's the point? Nothing's there.
Fly a jetpack. - I would love to.
Visit the Large Hadron Collider. (Contributed on Facebook by Tracey Pritchett) - I know someone who went to CERN, I wasn't invited.
Experience zero-gravity flight aboard a Boeing 727 vomit comet. - This is my dream.
Ah hahah You should get a macbook, take it to starbucks and then destroy it infront of all the people that like to show off macbooks at cafes. . .
PartTimeLegend said:
Destroy an iPhone - conantroutman Suggestion - Why? I'd rather sell it or give it to a friend/family.
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How can you be so cruel?
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Ah hahah You should get a macbook, take it to starbucks and then destroy it infront of all the people that like to show off macbooks at cafes. . .
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One day, if I ever have the cash for it... Or we can combine it with the iPhone game thing:
Make a best-selling iPhone game, and then buy MacBook Pros with the proceeds. Bring them to a Starbucks for a much publicized event (make them think that you are launching the next game). Once you are there, start smashing all the MBPs and encourage the crowd to do the same. Then whip out your favourite Android phone(s)
Win.
I'm a little scared at how much of that list i've already done.
But one more to add to the list, that I have not done.
Get into a physical fight over O/S preference (Mac vs Win vs Linux etc)
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get banned from xda (somthing tells me tho im doing pretty well with it)
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If I must.
All XDA Mods are penis-sucking knob-jockeys. Who all hate bacon. And as such, should have their balls ripped off. Or balls sewn on and then ripped off if female.
Good enough? XD
Also - the thread title is messed up. It should read "50 Geeky Things to Do Before You Die"
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