I'm trying to flash a sense ROM to update my PRL. I'm currently using:
Jaybob's TeamHeroC Rom, the .35 kernal
Firerats 1.5.8 Partition mod
The issue I'm running into is once I install a sense ROM (have tried NFX and Liquidsense so far) I get a never ending white HTC screen, have to pull the battery and back up using Nandroid.
The order I've been trying to do things:
Wipe, Clear cache and Dalvik
Flash Remove 1.5.8
Wipe, Clear Cache and Dalvik
Reboot Recovery
Flash Sense ROM
White screen/won't boot
From there I have to battery pull, wipe, re-flash Firerats and do a nandroid restore to get back where I was. I'm pretty sure I'm leaving out a step, so I was wondering if anyone could give me a clue on what I'm leaving out.
Is it safe to assume u didn't save a backup of ur original ROM right after u rooted ur hero?
If u did then go there to do the prl update.
If not then, try "fresh ROM" first, then try liquid sense or nfx...
But you may to factory reset twice, then under CMR recovery go to mounts and storage and format all but SD card stuff. Most recommend to do it twice .... just to make sure.
Now flash the ROM by itself since u don't need to sign in for anything so no need to flash gapps if ROM doesn't already have it.
Are you using any tweaks perhaps, firerat's? If so I've read that there are issues with that if your system is partitioned too small.
Good luck
Good luck!
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When going from an AOSP ROM to Sense and vice versa you format boot, cache, system, data and dalvik cache.
vidaljs said:
Are you using any tweaks perhaps, firerat's? If so I've read that there are issues with that if your system is partitioned too small.
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Yes, using the Supercharged V6, 3G Supercharger, KAK and Firerats.
I flash the fr-remove before flashing the new ROM. Taking care to format everything had the same results, as did flashing my old backup just after I rooted. I haven't tried flashing another ASOP rom or CM7, but so far it seems I can only restore my most recent backup.
oldredhat said:
Yes, using the Supercharged V6, 3G Supercharger, KAK and Firerats.
I flash the fr-remove before flashing the new ROM. Taking care to format everything had the same results, as did flashing my old backup just after I rooted. I haven't tried flashing another ASOP rom or CM7, but so far it seems I can only restore my most recent backup.
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Firerats is the issue. Your /system partition is currently too small. I've never had good luck with FR-remove. Re-flash your recovery image prior to flashing Sense. I triple format my /boot, /system, /data, /cache, and Dalvik cache using Clockwork receovery as well. Thank goodness I don't have to do that very often!
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EARLY this morning I decided to try out a new ROM. I flashed Clockworkmod recovery and installed Fresh 2.1.1 from my SD card. Now my phone is stuck in a constant loop of trying to boot up. This same process went fine when I installed Damage Control a few weeks ago. Only thing I've done since then was partition my SD card (also done thru Clockwork app). I would really appreciate any help. Thanks in advance
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EARLY this morning I decided to try out a new ROM. I flashed Clockworkmod recovery and installed Fresh 2.1.1 from my SD card. Now my phone is stuck in a constant loop of trying to boot up. This same process went fine when I installed Damage Control a few weeks ago. Only thing I've done since then was partition my SD card (also done thru Clockwork app). I would really appreciate any help. Thanks in advance
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Wipe everything (data, dalvik, and your SD card) and reflash. Yes, I know you just partitioned that's probably the problem.
This sounds like a silly question, but would a complete wipe UNDO the partition? Or is that just a way to get the system to wipe ext?
ksharp5580 said:
This sounds like a silly question, but would a complete wipe UNDO the partition? Or is that just a way to get the system to wipe ext?
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it just wipes the ext it doesnt undo the partition
I'm in recovery mode right now. Wipe Dalvik is in advanced options. On main screen I see wipe data/factory reset. Is that the one I want?
ksharp5580 said:
I'm in recovery mode right now. Wipe Dalvik is in advanced options. On main screen I see wipe data/factory reset. Is that the one I want?
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You want both data and dalvik at a minimum. If you want to try to reflash without reformatting your card, do the following:
Boot to recovery
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe dalvik
Flash the ROM
(optional but I always do this anyway - takes 10 seconds and is extra insurance)
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe dalvik
Boot
If that doesn't work, I'd recommend removing your microSD card and formatting it cleanly on your PC (fat32 format) and re-copying the ROM and attempting the above again.
Give it a go and report back.
if you're using the latest version of clockwork recovery, it's not compatible with a2sd on any rom but darch. I suggest godspeed or amon ra 1.6.2 if not running DD 2.7
Question, why would u wipe after installing the rom?
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no reason to, but most roms it won't hurt anything, as it only wipes /data and /cache, however, some roms do add apps to /data/app on flashing, and you would be removing those apps then.
Is that a Hero thing or is that in general?
I just had someone test the ClockworksMod on Darktremor Apps2SD for a Nexus One and it worked just fine.
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if you're using the latest version of clockwork recovery, it's not compatible with a2sd on any rom but darch. I suggest godspeed or amon ra 1.6.2 if not running DD 2.7
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I don't know. Clockwork mod gave me a lot of problems. Stick with amon ra based recoveries and had much fewer problems.
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Actually, was just looking back into it, and I may be wrong on it's compatibility, but it is just in my experience that it doesn't work too well for whatever reason. I like the idea of some of the features it offers, but it never worked right on backing up and restoring for me, and I may have just assumed that was the reason. Our I may have confused it with amon ra 1.7
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I use Godspeed and been really happy with it. I was just curious since I've never used ClockworksMod.
danaff37 said:
I don't know. Clockwork mod gave me a lot of problems. Stick with amon ra based recoveries and had much fewer problems.
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Noob questions. Every time I flash a new rom I become narotic, and I first disable any lagfix, then go to cwm, and factory reset, cache, dalvik, and batt stats all wiped. I'm assuming I don't need to do this if it's a full wipe rom? Can I even skip the lagfix part or is that always necessary?
Also if I'm upgrading a version of a rom, ex, apex 6.4 to 6.5 or any other situation same as this, can I just flash it without doing any prep before hand?
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if it's a full wipe ROM than yes, the ROM does all the wiping for you. And if the OP states for you to disable lagfix before flashing than i do so.. also if your just doing an update you can usually just flash over one another. But its always good to check with the ROM dev and see if he suggests any special wipes or whatnot.
Cdub3 said:
Noob questions. Every time I flash a new rom I become narotic, and I first disable any lagfix, then go to cwm, and factory reset, cache, dalvik, and batt stats all wiped. I'm assuming I don't need to do this if it's a full wipe rom? Can I even skip the lagfix part or is that always necessary?
Also if I'm upgrading a version of a rom, ex, apex 6.4 to 6.5 or any other situation same as this, can I just flash it without doing any prep before hand?
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You can still do whatever your used to and are comfortable with. BUT this is what I do before flashing any rom.
I go to market and make sure all apps are updated.
Next I go to titanium backup and backup all user apps and system apps with data (I NEVER RESTORE THE SYSTEM APPS OR DATA THOUGH)
Next I boot into recovery and perform a backup (which saves almost Evey aspect of my rom I am on before flashing
I boot back up and then reboot into recovery again.
Then I install whatever rom I am flashing at the time.
I DO NOT WIPE ANYTHING OTHER THAN CACHE WHILE IN RECOVERY AND BEFORE FLASHING THE ROM.
I have NOT had more than 1-2 issues flashing anything since I started using froyo, so that includes any froyo rom, the gingerbread rom that first was made, then Continuum and on my second cappy the same except I also have flashed CM7 on it.
The one or two times I had issues ALL I ever did was boot into recovery and run restore from the previous rom I was on. Then reflash the rom I was trying to get on to. I really have have had NO ISSUES NOT wiping anything other than cache.
I look at it this way, if it works the first time I flash a rom I am golden and do not need to reset up everything. If I have a issue then I CAN start from scratch with a factory reset and wipe cache and dalvich cache IF NEED BE. At least then I am ON the rom I was trying g to go on in the first place.
Then after all seems good I will restore my user apps and some user apps with data with Titanium Backup. So MOST of the time I have changed roms and all is working with no issues in 10 to 15 minutes.
Again this is HOW AND WHY I do it that way. A NANDROID BACKUP and TITANIUM BACKUP are your BEST FRIENDS in these cases.
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Thanks for the replies. Very helpful
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Cdub3 said:
Thanks for the replies. Very helpful
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6.5 is a wipe version which would take care of wiping caches. You dont need to disable lagfix. But as someone said always keep a nandroid backup
Also you may want to post these queries in ROM thread for quicker response
I always disable lagfixes just for good measure. Most roms do a full wipe so there's no need for any of the other stuff.
I am currently at at Serendipity VII and i would like to go to SuperNova4.2.
Can i flash the supernova4.2 Rom from CWM? Sueprnova4.2 is pretty much Firefly which is at 2.2 so i wouldn't have to load the old bootloaders since SerendipityVII is at Gengerbread 2.3 i would just be able to flash straight from CWM correct? I should be ok going from my current Gengerbread 2.3 to any 2.2 without going back to stock correct? Before changing ROMS should i do a wiping the cache partition and dalvik cache? whipe data/factory reset?
flash a froyo kernel with odin first. once thats done it'll bootloop so just yank the battery, boot into recovery wipey wipe, flash supernova...
Might be a dumb question but how can i tell a certain Kernel is a foyo?
in the dev section...the thread title for the kernels will say 2.2 or froyo.
I did a search under Dev for "Froyo" all came back with [ROM] the only one that came back with froyo was http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818377&highlight=froyo
yeah there is no .tar in there...
get the .tar here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
one from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930679
sorry forgot the kernels might not have been named froyo since thats all there really was before gb. no need to distinguish...
Before changing ROMS should i do a wiping the cache partition and dalvik cache? whipe data/factory reset?
Thanks for your help.
yup
flash the kernel... then, boot into recovery (cause it'll just loop if you try and go all the way to the OS.) do the data and cache wipes then flash the rom.
Sorry i missed it. Thanks for your help everything went well!
So every single rom for any phone I've seen says to clear the dalvik and the cache (or maybe its just the "dalvik cache") but when I went from stock to Thriller, I forgot to, and nothing went wrong. In fact, all my settings and apps were all intact from the previous stock rom.
I've considered that the only other phone I'd done any flashing on was a backflip, without Apps2SD and maybe that's why all my apps and settings were intact, so that still leaves me with the question: why clear it?
This may be a noob-ish question, and I apologize. Thanks for any help!
Tyqar said:
So every single rom for any phone I've seen says to clear the dalvik and the cache (or maybe its just the "dalvik cache") but when I went from stock to Thriller, I forgot to, and nothing went wrong. In fact, all my settings and apps were all intact from the previous stock rom.
I've considered that the only other phone I'd done any flashing on was a backflip, without Apps2SD and maybe that's why all my apps and settings were intact, so that still leaves me with the question: why clear it?
This may be a noob-ish question, and I apologize. Thanks for any help!
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If there are any compatibility issues between the apk dalvik cache of your previous rom and the apks on the new rom wiping dalvik clears the previous apks stored dalvik cache. In most cases you can flash without a problem. But I recommend wiping between rom flashes just to eliminate any potential problems. Flashing something like Thriller over the stock rom you can probably get away with not wiping anything since all the apks are essentially the same. Flashing kernels you don't need to wipe anything. When flashing a rom with a completely different firmware I recommend a full data wipe. Restoring recovery backups such as nandroid require no wiping at all.
Also, wiping dalvik shouldn't affect any of your settings.
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+1
When switching ROM with different base apps, it is generally better to wipe caches than to get stuck in a boot loop, or having your apps and launcher FC on you. You never lose anything as the cache rebuilds itself on the next reboot, except maybe a few minutes
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If there are any compatibility issues between the apk dalvik cache of your previous rom and the apks on the new rom wiping dalvik clears the previous apks stored dalvik cache. In most cases you can flash without a problem. But I recommend wiping between rom flashes just to eliminate any potential problems. Flashing something like Thriller over the stock rom you can probably get away with not wiping anything since all the apks are essentially the same. Flashing kernels you don't need to wipe anything. When flashing a rom with a completely different firmware I recommend a full data wipe. Restoring recovery backups such as nandroid require no wiping at all.
Also, wiping dalvik shouldn't affect any of your settings.
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so, when i flashed thriller and followed the instructions, did I do a full wipe or not?
I mean if it doest it on its own, and if not, should I do one?
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so, when i flashed thriller and followed the instructions, did I do a full wipe or not?
I mean if it doest it on its own, and if not, should I do one?
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If you followed the instructions you did a full data wipe. When you do this the dalvik gets wiped as well. To just wipe dalvik look under the Advanced menu in cwm recovery.
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clearing cache
i am using a nand rom in my HD2, and i also want to install another rom via SD in Magldr, but because of kernel issues i cannot load the Rom from SD unless i use the kernal i am advised to use. I am instructed to clear the dalvik and cache, but does this mean that i would lose anything from my current NAND rom? I still want to be able to use that of coarse so i just want to make sure there are no major risks when clearing cache.
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i am using a nand rom in my HD2, and i also want to install another rom via SD in Magldr, but because of kernel issues i cannot load the Rom from SD unless i use the kernal i am advised to use. I am instructed to clear the dalvik and cache, but does this mean that i would lose anything from my current NAND rom? I still want to be able to use that of coarse so i just want to make sure there are no major risks when clearing cache.
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Clearing dalvik and cache wont make you lose anything, used to do it with my shift because I'd flash about 10 zips a day sometimes...
Also when it comes to flashing any ROM I format system data cache wipe dalvik cache and do a factory reset just to be sure nothing from a previous ROM is left over also wipe my SD ext partition when running an a2sd ROM, my question is can I safely manually format the emmc partition of the thrill from the mounts and storage option of cwm
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quick question, if you do a factory reset with odin and start from scratch, should you delete everything that is on your internal SD? Would that be a full complete wipe?
That is a FULL wipe but thats not what im talking about. Just the internal phone stuff.
what is formatted when you click to format /boot? for some reason I always thought that formatted the boot loader so I dared not touch that, but now I'm realizing how stupid it would be to even put that option there and how many more phones would have been bricked at this point. anyway when I install a new rom I pretty much wipe everything (including dalvik) except for /boot and /emmc ( I even formated the external recently but moved back images, efs backup, and avatar), then mount /sdcard, insert rom then flash, fix permissions.
formats the boot animation?
or after the VIBRANT logo
it's a ritual for me whenever i install a new rom to go through this installation method. I also notice that i tend to experience far less "bugs" then others.
Odin to Stock JFD
using the update.zip flash CWR
flash ROM (bootloops after updating CWR)
3 button into recovery
mounts and storage menu
format the following
-System
-Cache
-Data
-Data/Data
advanced Menu
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash Rom Again
Fix Permissions
Reboot
wait 5 Minutes
Reboot
complete the 1 time google setup
Install your apps Without data
reboot to recovery
Clear Cache/Dalvik fix permissions
Reboot
Play
I use this method from everything from 2.2-miui-ics never a hickup!
Format system wipes the internal sd basically?
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Format system wipes the internal sd basically?
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Noooooo!!! It wipes the ROM!
If you wanna wipe SD then "format SD"
Updated OP please read!
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Noooooo!!! It wipes the ROM!
If you wanna wipe SD then "format SD"
Updated OP please read!
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Now I understand. Thanks Alan. How come most ROM flashing instructions don't advise Format system?
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What about clearing Dalvik Cache?
nirogu325 said:
What about clearing Dalvik Cache?
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Cleared in the process...
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Cleared in the process...
Sent from the effnn TITAN!!!
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Just being curious because some say it isn't cleared in the Factory Reset. Some ROM and kernel devs do suggest clearing Dalvik Cache after doing a Factory Reset because it prevents some apps giving FCs after flashing a new ROM.
Side note: I wipe dalvik about once every two weeks whether I am flashing or not. Helps with cleaning up corpses and getting better RAM usage. Thanks for the info Alan.
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Nice find!
..now bend over.
One question Alan.
Can I Odin to stock from ICS passion just like we go from gingerbread or froyo from? Or is there a special way to get back to stock jfd? I want to try out jcc from but I don't know if I could just Odin to stock from passion. Thanks
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boystuff said:
it's a ritual for me whenever i install a new rom to go through this installation method. I also notice that i tend to experience far less "bugs" then others.
Odin to Stock JFD
using the update.zip flash CWR
flash ROM (bootloops after updating CWR)
3 button into recovery
mounts and storage menu
format the following
-System
-Cache
-Data
-Data/Data
advanced Menu
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash Rom Again
Fix Permissions
Reboot
wait 5 Minutes
Reboot
complete the 1 time google setup
Install your apps Without data
reboot to recovery
Clear Cache/Dalvik fix permissions
Reboot
Play
I use this method from everything from 2.2-miui-ics never a hickup!
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What you using to reinstall apps and/or app data? Everytime I install a new ROM, I lose all my data connected to an app. For example, I play Drag Racing and you have to create a new login name everytime I install a new ROM. I would like to at least save the data related to that app.
wavestar92 said:
One question Alan.
Can I Odin to stock from ICS passion just like we go from gingerbread or froyo from? Or is there a special way to get back to stock jfd? I want to try out jcc from but I don't know if I could just Odin to stock from passion. Thanks
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Yep just ODIN to stock , wipe and flash
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nirogu325 said:
Just being curious because some say it isn't cleared in the Factory Reset. Some ROM and kernel devs do suggest clearing Dalvik Cache after doing a Factory Reset because it prevents some apps giving FCs after flashing a new ROM.
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Yea I do it as well just in case....
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