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[Q] Experience of WIFI tethering, SIP call quality any BAD?

My main usage of the phone will be as an USB modem for my laptop and for SIP, Skype calls.
Anyone try WIFI tethering and USB modem for the whole day long?
and does that stable enough? (heat, disconnection, reboot...)
Can anyone talk about the experience of making a SIP or Skype call. (handfree, loudness, volume adjustment...)
Anyone experience any stability problem? (freeze, reboot...)
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My review model of the Droid 3 seemed to have reception issues. . . Call quality on the Droid 3 also had its share of problems. . . The phone also does a poor job at filtering out background noises.
mages taken on the 8-megapixel camera came out dark, and all had a blue tint to them.
I've never seen a dual-core phone take so long to open apps or had so many preinstalled applications just crash on me
<from PCWorld review>
It seems to get warm even though I'm not running any apps and I would assume the battery life suffers since it's warmer than it needs to be.
<pekosROB>
Camera Tint? Blue?
<Izeltokatl>
My only major gripe is the batterylife, with all of my social streams, twitter, gplus, facebook, and a couple other i go through the battery in about 10 to 12 hours.
<androidphan88>

I love my droid 3....it crushes my previous phones hands down....and it isn't a weak list.....D1, D2, D2G, X, and X2....all rooted and none compete
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Trust yourself. Go to the store and mess around with one.

Heelfan71 said:
Trust yourself. Go to the store and mess around with one.
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What he said. I got mine Day 1 without any real reviews. I love it.

People here will give you real-world reviews as well as feedback to any questions you have so I trust the feedback.
As already noted the best thing to do is try before you buy.

I got mine about 3 days ago. The first day I had a few problems to start off on. After a little tweaking here and there everything is working great.
Pentile display on the Droid X2 made me wonder about the Droid 3. The Droid 3 is MUCH better imho.
I had a problem with was sliding the keyboard open. Felt really really tight, but playing around with it loosened it up nicely. The keyboard is one of the best I have used. The Epic keyboard is the other.
The device is SOLID. Feels like a well built phone, and doesn't have the light plastic feel to it. I actually love the feel of it better than the Droid X2 which I also own.
Blur - It not so bad... I actually kinda like this "version" though we really don't have it. Some features of blur I wish I had though. remote wipe, and find your phone. Not that I can find similar in the market... I just don't like loading them, and the blur version CAN'T be removed with a factory reset. So you can track them regardless of where they go.
As the people before me will told you it's always going to be based on YOU and not some review. Each person has different tastes and following a review based on not knowing what the reviewer preferences are what get people into trouble. Test it out yourself for a few hours in the Verizon Store.

Phone Arena has a good review of it,
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DROID-3-Review_id2786

For the keyboard check the back of the diisplay when sliding it out for a plastic covering. This was something I had to deal with on the Droid1 and the Droid3 also has it. Removing it helps the keyboard slide a bit. Still quite stiff but nothing that bothers me.

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The basic phone function sounds worrying?
That's what I can't play with in the shop and why I ask.

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The basic phone function sounds worrying?
That's what I can't play in the shop and why I ask.
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to me call quality seems good. Better than my incredible. I don't think the pictures are blueish or dark. I've had no apps crash. I really like this phone. Its already super fast stock. Never lags. Even with pandora going and using handscent popup and on the internet. Its a super solid phone. My only complaint is the power button is almost to stiff.
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Just for reference, here are my last smartphones since the "BlackBerry era":
Touch Pro/Fuze, Nokia N85, EVO, DX2, D3.
Also, I switched to Verizon to get unlimited data (but more than 30 days before the D3 came out) so I had a DX2. I am much happier with the D3. The primary reason is for the keyboard. If you must have a keyboard and Android device, THIS is the device to get, hands down.
My only nitpicks? It seems to get warm even though I'm not running any apps and I would assume the battery life suffers since it's warmer than it needs to be. Battery life isn't that great, but can probably get through your day. Screen is better than the DX2. Keyboard takes a little getting used to but is awesome.
Edit: since I got my D3 more than 30 days after the DX2, no return was done. I bought the D3 off contract (almost $500 with tax) and sold my DX2 with Otterbox case for $200. I still don't regret spending over $300 for this phone.

Does anyone try wifi tethering or as an modem via USB cable WHOLE DAY?
and does that stable enough?
I need the function everyday at work.

From my experience, many reviews out there are made with such high expectations. Half the time, they are made by humans - and we know humans aren't always perfect. There typically is biasing involved. If the unit is defective in some way, that screws it up entirely.
Honestly, the best consensus is from us here in the forums. We own the phone, many of which are happy with it. Some have had problems, either from incorrect settings and/or a defect in the device (it's possible).
So here is a proposal for you. Compose a list of questions that concern you the most - allow us to justify the answers to those questions based on our needs, usage, background, experience, etc. (Which, you've already posed some questions..)

I have had a the D3 since last wednesday and i love it.
I owned the OG droid and the DX then i moved to this.
As for the questions about call quality. I personally think that is moto's stong point even back to the days of the razr moto to me always has the best call quality and signal of any of the other manufactures.
The new blur is acutually nice. I hated blur on the dx and had it romed as soon as it was available but the blur on this is nice. There really isnt any lag there are a few instances where it does for example. The camera app takes a while to load, and if you get out of a full screen app it seems to take a second to redraw the home screens. But that is it so far much better than previous blurs.
The keyboard is amazing miles ahead of the d1 keyboard and one of the best i have ever used. I will say the screen is not the best if you are looking for color accuracy but it is still good.
My only major gripe is the batterylife, with all of my social streams, twitter, gplus, facebook, and a couple other i go through the battery in about 10 to 12 hours.
I would say go for this phone, deffently the best droid phone i have owned so far

Weird things, bugs, and gripes.

I've had several annoying things happen since getting the phone, but overall it's been a great experience. Here's some of the things that are bugging me:
If I leave wifi on, bluetooth audio streaming skips for a second or two whenever a new wifi network is detected. Really annoying when I set up in my car.
The camera has a blueish, cooling tint, and nothing in the settings seems to fix it. I'm having to 'shop all my pictures to bring out the colors correctly.
If I take several pictures (more than 3) and then sleep the phone while the camera is still on, then unsleep, it goes bat****. I've had everything from total unresponsiveness, to green checkers, to complete green screen, and consistent repetitive, unending shutter noises.
The "Gorilla Glass" is scratching - I'm getting nicks and dings and tiny scratches from pocket change, whereas my friend's had a droid incredible for over a year and its screen is flawless. I'm thinking this either isn't Gorilla Glass or it's a bad batch. I'm debating returning it because of this, might just get a screen protector.
Bloatware, lack of root. I've been lazy and avoided installing a launcher (bleh, ok, installing adw now .) Still, I paid good money for this, I expect a little love in return. Foisting off this crap on me isn't a great way to build brand loyalty.
Battery Life varies dramatically. Some days I'll be out taking hundreds of pictures over 4-5 hours and only use 40% or so - other days, I'll take a few dozen and end up using 90% of the battery in less than 2 hours. Definitely some wonkiness behind the scenes.
I'm not unhappy with the phone, overall - it's responsive and the HD video and camera have both served me well. It's just not all that it should be. Root will solve everything except the Gorilla Glass issue.
Feel free to chip in on other problems - it'd be nice to have a focused discussion to reference things wrong with this phone, once we have root.

Gorilla Glass sucks... i have the same... after 2 weeks of keeping it safely in my pocket completly alone... I have scratches... one deep... and few small... the worst is that I can't give it back or exchange it... I live in Poland and bought it from Amazon... ;/
Motorola Sucks... even if I love it! It's my 12 Motorola... maybe the last one??

well i may be wrong but i dont think the droid 3 has gorilla glass... if you go to gorilla glass's website they list the phones that come with it and the only Motorola devices that come with it are the Droid x2 and the xoom.

mikenius said:
Motorola Sucks... even if I love it! It's my 12 Motorola... maybe the last one??
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Well i will agree Motorola does suck right now but.... they were just bought out by google so, google will start making Motorola phones. i have a feeling they will only get better now, and actually might be worth buying.

joshwest said:
well i may be wrong but i dont think the droid 3 has gorilla glass... if you go to gorilla glass's website they list the phones that come with it and the only Motorola devices that come with it are the Droid x2 and the xoom.
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Wrong.
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I have to wonder about gorilla glass QC myself, my DINC looked like I had taken sand paper to it after about a month.

Maybe there's some sort of significant variance that has somehow escaped their notice. I've seen a droid incredible dropped on jagged rocks, gouged at with a pocket knife, poked with keys, and nothing happens, but I've treated my d3 like a baby and it's got a bunch of dings. Nothing that affects the usability, or that you can even see without tilting it to the light in the right angle, but it's definitely not living up to the GGlass hype.
The d3 specs show GGlass.

The screen on my D3 is flawless (no screen protector). I had an Inc before the D3 and didn't have a screen protector on that, either. Nothing could scratch my Inc, and I kept that in the same pocket as my keys. Same with my D3. I've had it for over a month a half now and it is still in perfect condition. Hell, it took getting punched (hard) with an emerald to scratch the glass on my Inc. lol

Yeah I haven't had any real problems either. I've only had 2 random reboots but that was because I was putting a lot of stress on the phone, like running androirc,pandora, and texting all at the same time xD
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I tend to get random reboots while running GPS. Also while in the car dock, the phone just goes wack sometimes. I first thought I didn't have car mode because it doesn't always activate when in the dock. Do you guys know how they trigger it in the D3? in the D1 it was with a magnet so no power was required but for the D3, no power generally means no car mode
I haven't had a problem with screen scratching but I'm paranoid and bought a screen protector off amazon
its called halo screen protectors and it applied really really ez. didn't get bubbles like my old D1. plus it doesn't scratch ez either

I hate screen protectors, none of them make the screen feel like the original. Which is why I go naked . I use a case though.
I've had no random reboots so far, 2 hard reboots as mentioned because I was putting too much stress on the phone
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Had 1 or 2 random reboots. One when unplugging.
Docking seems to be a combination of power and what seems to be an rfid chip in the docks (for the multimedia unit anyhow, it knows one dock from another and can perform different actions for each)
Docking is VERY slow to repond. My old Eris pulls up desk clock faster when docked by nearly 5 seconds. What's up with that Moto??
HATE how the unit unplugs and locks me out of a screen action while it tells me that it has been unplugged in this big green banner at the top. If you unplug to silence or answer an incomming call, you have to wait for the phone to finish telling you it was unplugged before it will answer/silence. Big gripe!
I agree, backup assistant is Pure BLOATED battery waste on this phone. Hate that I have to wait until root to get rid of it! Hint Hint Moto, THESE are the real reasons so many users want root...remember PCs in the 90s with all the useless crap that came with them?
DLNA service constantly runs and polls in the background, even if no accounts are setup. Giant battery drain!
Home screen redraws are off the charts often and slow! This really does have TWO 1Ghz processors, right?? Because it sure doesn't act like it performance wise.
LAG...after selecting camera, gallery, or app drawer. It lags enough that i actaully have time to think it didn't register the touch. Then as i reach to re-touch the launch, it finally starts to launch the selected app/function.
The white theme...give us back real GB dark theme. White is blinding at night, and is excessive on battery draw over a black background. At least let us chose the theme....?
Battery and Data Manager options stink, as does the manager service associated with it. Select no battery management, and the service still runs in the background. If you go into and out of a weak coverage area, the extended network data setting (enable data roaming) unchecks itself, causing loss of data until in home network or you recheck the box. Setting lost again after going to a weak coverage area again. Logcats verify it is the Moto Battery and Data manager service that controls this setting, not the network.
All the other NON-stoppable service bloat on this phone. Factory task killer you can't shut down? WTF happened Moto?
Lots of other little gripes and nit-picks regarding stock GB options masked or disabled by Motorola.
It isn't a terrible phone, but it also isn't terribly impressive either.
After all this time to get this Droid version right, I am totally UNDERwhelmed by this phone. Yes, it works...but not anywhere near as smoothly or fast or refined as the D1 did at its initial launch.
IMHO, this phone wasn't ready for launch when it was sold to customers.
I will see what root and the Devs can do for this phone, but this will officially be my last Moto device unless Google is somehow able to pull this kind of product quality out of the proverbial toilet.
All that, and we are still patiently waiting for bootloader unlock.
Only time will tell
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I blame the Motorola skin(blur)
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JRowe47 said:
I've had several annoying things happen since getting the phone, but overall it's been a great experience. Here's some of the things that are bugging me:
Bloatware, lack of root. I've been lazy and avoided installing a launcher (bleh, ok, installing adw now .) Still, I paid good money for this, I expect a little love in return. Foisting off this crap on me isn't a great way to build brand loyalty.
Battery Life varies dramatically. Some days I'll be out taking hundreds of pictures over 4-5 hours and only use 40% or so - other days, I'll take a few dozen and end up using 90% of the battery in less than 2 hours. Definitely some wonkiness behind the scenes.
I'm not unhappy with the phone, overall - it's responsive and the HD video and camera have both served me well. It's just not all that it should be. Root will solve everything except the Gorilla Glass issue.
Feel free to chip in on other problems - it'd be nice to have a focused discussion to reference things wrong with this phone, once we have root.
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I agree about these items. The bloat is unreal! I thought sprint was bad until I just switched to verizon. I also have had similar battery issues, leaving me alarm-less this morning due to my phone shutting off (I totally thought 30% would get me through the night like it had the previous night). Anyway, with root incoming soon, should be smooth sailing and constant flashing muwaahahahhhhhhaaa. Thanks devs!

ROOTED! And let me say, this thing is much snapper without Borkup Assistant (pun intended) and DLNA. Just dumping those 2 items alone have made a huge difference!!
Can't wait for bootstrap and custom recovery so I can ditch Blur. Gingerbread works, the mess with this phone is Moto itself.
Now that we have root, it won't be long to fix what Moto broke. ;-D
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When I have my phone charging for some reason the the touch screen isn't worth **** mainly scrolling when in an application or browser haven't seen to much about this anyone else experience this?
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Gripe:
The vibration for the notifications sounds sick. It starts strong and then quickly fades. This is in contrast to my D1 that had a strong buzz for the entire duration (I think it is a second per buzz).

ajbattaglia83 said:
When I have my phone charging for some reason the the touch screen isn't worth **** mainly scrolling when in an application or browser haven't seen to much about this anyone else experience this?
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This was a big problem with the D1 if you were not using a correct charger.
Are you using a proper Motorola Droid charger?

Bobbar said:
This was a big problem with the D1 if you were not using a correct charger.
Are you using a proper Motorola Droid charger?
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Ohhh **** I never thought of that, that would explain it...
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JRowe47 said:
[*]If I leave wifi on, bluetooth audio streaming skips for a second or two whenever a new wifi network is detected. Really annoying when I set up in my car.
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My Droid 3 and Droid 2 do this when I leave Wifi on and use Bluetooth to play music over my car's speakers (Ford Sync). I had a Droid X2 however for a couple of weeks and it did not suffer from this problem.

So I went to VZW to check it out (D2G owner)

Hi all,
I finally got a chance to go to the store to check one of these out. I wanted to see what all the hype was about and if I could justify spending the money to upgrade my D2G (not elligible for upgrade yet).
First Impressions:
- Screen: I read all the hysteria about how bad a pixelated screen looks etc. Some people said that you could barely see the difference unless youre holding the right up to your eye holes.. They are wrong. You can easily see the difference holding it at normal viewing distance. If you like the screen on the D2G it will take some serious adjusting to. It simply 'seems' like outdated tech and looks cheap.
-4G: This is the first 4G device I have ever used. It is shockingly quick (had 2 bars in Central NJ). I download a few apps (dolphin browser) and went to a couple of web pages. I also ran the speed test 19.6mb down // 3.99 upload. I went to youtube and loaded an HD video and the video never stuttered once (video time never caught up to buffering). I was very impressed with 4G and that is mainly the reason I wanted to take a look at the Droid Bionic.
- Stress testing:? Not sure what to call this but I wanted to see if I could make the phone hang up. Im not even sure if these are applicable to the hardware, but I ran 2 apps. The first of which was Google Maps, it didnt seem to be any faster than on my D2G. Scrolling isnt any more impressive neither is zooming in, I felt like the rendering speed was the same.
- Moto BLUR/UI whatever its called these days: Its still sucky you will want to root and change it.
I also downloaded a PDF and scrolled around that. Same issue, rendering doesnt seem any faster.
Im not even sure if something like this can be critiqued because these things arent even smooth on a regular PC.
Its clearly a good phone if you can deal with the screen thing. Once roms and stuff are developed for it, it will be even better. I would probably pull the trigger if i was elligible for an upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.

I personally wouldn't recommend the Bionic. I'm currently using one, as it "fell into my hands". There are many more options coming VERY soon which will have greater specs than the Bionic and won't have the terrible display.
I can't believe how much denial the people are in when they say that the screen is fine. If you say the screen is fine you're lying to yourself and everyone else, but whatever makes you feel better about your $300+ purchase I guess.
I will say that the Bionic has a leg up on my Incredible as far as outdoor viewing goes.

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I personally wouldn't recommend the Bionic. I'm currently using one, as it "fell into my hands". There are many more options coming VERY soon which will have greater specs than the Bionic and won't have the terrible display.
I can't believe how much denial the people are in when they say that the screen is fine. If you say the screen is fine you're lying to yourself and everyone else, but whatever makes you feel better about your $300+ purchase I guess.
I will say that the Bionic has a leg up on my Incredible as far as outdoor viewing goes.
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Then I'm in denial and deny it! lol.. its not the best screen, but its not horrible! I think its quite ok.. the pixels don't bother me much, my battery life kicks butt compared to tbolt! Then again, im not one for watching movies on my phone I got a Sammy LED at home for that...

For those of us who:
-would rather watch a movie on something larger than a 4 inch screen.
-would rather fap to pr0n from a pc
-would rather play games on a pc, xbox 360 or ps3
-care about performance of the best 4g radio and so far the best processor/ram combo
OR have a connection for incredibly good deals on phones and don't really care...
Yeah, denial is the right term.

Like i've been saying - Rendering performance will not be hardly any different until Icecream comes out. Gingerbread is singlethreaded.. you're not going to see the OS take any advantage over dual core for a while.
The good news is that it's still just as fast as any other single core phone. If any app is coded to take advantage of dual core, it will shine in those but in average usage - you're not seeing any performance advantage here.

The pentile screen doesn't bother me. I can tell at times but still doesn't impact me. I would rather have better battery life than a non-pentile screen. I don't want the Thunderbolt battery issues.
After removing a bunch of bloatware, I kinda dig the new Blur. I was using CM7 with ADW Ex on top. It is running so butter smooth! I will probably go back to ADW Ex when a ROM comes out without Blur.
I got 30 days to try it out but I might exchange it for the HTC Vigor. Depends on what happens the next 30 days.

Diversion said:
Like i've been saying - Rendering performance will not be hardly any different until Icecream comes out. Gingerbread is singlethreaded.. you're not going to see the OS take any advantage over dual core for a while.
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While it's true it's barely worth mentioning. "YET" or "UNTIL" are key vocabulary for this CPU.

Coming from a droidx here... the screen looks a-ok to me on the bionic.
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I've been using htc phones since the ppc6600. Battery life has been terrible since then, and I don't see it getting any better, unless they do something magical. 6600:terrible battery life. 6700 terrible battery life. 6800: terrible battery life. Incredible : incredibly terrible battery life.
There seems to be a trend here. I do believe I am done with htc.
The battery life alone, to me, is worth the money.

No doubt that the screen is disappointing, but LTE is absolutely insane, and the phone is noticeably faster than the Sensation running a Sense ROM. Overall, I'm very pleased with my first Motorola device, and it was a steal at $179 from Amazon.
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I think that people are being to anal about the screen. I use the phone in direct sunlight now and it looks incredible. The text looks super sharp and you dont have to put your hand on top of the screen to block sun light. this phone is amazing. and yes better phones will be out and when you get that awesome phone that will come out in a few months another better phone will be out after that. is a never ending cycle. I love the bionic and i dont regret buying it. When i want to watch porn I use my computer or my galaxy 10.1 tablet. If you really really need a porn fix the bionic could take care of it too.

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I've been using htc phones since the ppc6600. Battery life has been terrible since then, and I don't see it getting any better, unless they do something magical. 6600:terrible battery life. 6700 terrible battery life. 6800: terrible battery life. Incredible : incredibly terrible battery life.
There seems to be a trend here. I do believe I am done with htc.
The battery life alone, to me, is worth the money.
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It's Sense. Put CyanogenMod on any HTC device, and you get amazing battery life. Can't wait for it on the Bionic.
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It's Sense. Put CyanogenMod on any HTC device, and you get amazing battery life. Can't wait for it on the Bionic.
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Sense didn't exist until after the 6800. I had cm7 on my DInc, it still sucked, battery wise anyway.

The hate for the screen is warranted, and not warranted. I don't know how to put that. I was adamantly against a PenTile screen and it was almost enough to put me off on this phone. I had seen it in store and focused on the screen, and it just annoyed me. Then I got some real time with it and it's seriously a bunch of nonsense. The screen is sharp, great colors, great in daylight. It's not AMOLED level there but it's a do-it-all screen.
The 4G is super fast, and the battery life is amazing. I came from a Droid X and it's an impressive phone. Suck it up on the screen and you'll forget about it in a day.

Vexorg said:
Hi all,
I finally got a chance to go to the store to check one of these out. I wanted to see what all the hype was about and if I could justify spending the money to upgrade my D2G (not elligible for upgrade yet).
First Impressions:
- Screen: I read all the hysteria about how bad a pixelated screen looks etc. Some people said that you could barely see the difference unless youre holding the right up to your eye holes.. They are wrong. You can easily see the difference holding it at normal viewing distance. If you like the screen on the D2G it will take some serious adjusting to. It simply 'seems' like outdated tech and looks cheap.
-4G: This is the first 4G device I have ever used. It is shockingly quick (had 2 bars in Central NJ). I download a few apps (dolphin browser) and went to a couple of web pages. I also ran the speed test 19.6mb down // 3.99 upload. I went to youtube and loaded an HD video and the video never stuttered once (video time never caught up to buffering). I was very impressed with 4G and that is mainly the reason I wanted to take a look at the Droid Bionic.
- Stress testing:? Not sure what to call this but I wanted to see if I could make the phone hang up. Im not even sure if these are applicable to the hardware, but I ran 2 apps. The first of which was Google Maps, it didnt seem to be any faster than on my D2G. Scrolling isnt any more impressive neither is zooming in, I felt like the rendering speed was the same.
- Moto BLUR/UI whatever its called these days: Its still sucky you will want to root and change it.
I also downloaded a PDF and scrolled around that. Same issue, rendering doesnt seem any faster.
Im not even sure if something like this can be critiqued because these things arent even smooth on a regular PC.
Its clearly a good phone if you can deal with the screen thing. Once roms and stuff are developed for it, it will be even better. I would probably pull the trigger if i was elligible for an upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.
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Your comparing a Droid 2 Global to a Bionic .... Bionic>"D2G"
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The "VERY" part of your statement, stands out as if you know something the rest of "non" Verizon Wireless employee's would know... if you dont work for verizon wireless please share what these options are..if you do work for vzw i can understand if you dont because you dont want to get a lawsuit.

Thx for the detailed review while playing with a demo model in-store for how long?
*crack me up!

manolith2011 said:
I think that people are being to anal about the screen.
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If I'm spending $200 to $300 on an smartphone it better have a damn good screen. No offense but the Bionic does not have a good screen. Yeah at times it can look good but anything with green for instance suddenly brings out the crap factor. If it doesn't bother you then enjoy it. As for me I'll wait until either the HTC or Samsung offerings are out both of which will have a better screen over the Bionic.

Would you recommend the D3?.

Ok so right now am looking for a phone to buy.
And had the droid x
And droid charge.
So my question is would anybody recommend the d3?
And how is the development for the d3 look in the future?
I heard about motorola unlocking the bootloader but when the day comes, will they only provide it with the new phones? Or would it be like an update?

Absolutely would recommend!
I wholeheartedly recommend the D3 - especially if you are looking for a physical keyboard.
Development is well under way and there are now at least 2 full working ROMs. I've tried both Steel Droid and Monster and both are great - i find monster to be faster and thats my preference.
When I first got the phone, I was pretty bummed that the locked bootloader had put a huge damper on development. Ever since root has been acheived, however, things have been much better and you could not pry my D3 from my cold dead hands.
I hear that Blur is much better than previous iterations, but I use launcher pro so I don't use blur at all.
heres a link to the ROM, Mods and Themes thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289611

As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.

I got a D3 yesterday, after having the D1 the last two years. After about 20 hours using it, I love it. I really dig how fast it is, and the larger screen is nice too.
As soon as I got it home, I rooted it and ran the scripts to remove the VZW apps. I really don't see a need to flash a ROM since this D3 runs so smoothly already. I'd like to edit some PNG files here and there, and that will probably be about it for me. I remember the constant flashing of ROM's, SBF files, and themes on my D1. This time around, I'm really not looking forward to that. It feels to me like VZW and Motorola did a great job with the device as is once you skim off the bloatware.
Like SrulDog, I switched to LP immediately. I've been using LP since about the time it was released, so I am very comfortable with it. It runs great on the D3 too.
I say go for it. I don't know how it compares to the Droids you have owned, but I know it is much better than the D1.
-Mike

kishin14 said:
As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.
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Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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I have had this phone for a couple weeks and I am enjoying it. I had an OG Droid that the screen crapped out on me so this was nice because it works! I am used to the hardware keyboard on a Blackberry Tour/Bold 9650 but that's personal preference. I am getting used to this one though and I can fly on it so I guess it's pretty good for a keyboard.
A couple things I have done are root, freeze a few apps like VCast and run Autokiller at Strict, and the phone is as smooth as butter now. It has the same hardware as the Bionic really so I mean it's as high end as you can get. If you want 4G then as mentioned you should wait, but I have been getting great 3G speeds and yes I have to wait for the Market apps to download a little but it's a lot faster than it has been in the past with my OG Droid.

Well 4g isent really a biggy for me.
More like.batterry life and great rom features really

Androidsims said:
Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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Great responses here! This is why I love XDA! To answer the question…yes, I would definitely recommend getting a DVD for all the reasons given above. Dev work is going well, CM7 is on the way, and we MAY have an AOSP rom by the weekend (permissions to port pending). The physical keyboard is outstanding, and the screen is good. Even though colors are a bit washed out, being able to view the screen in direct sunlight, with no issues, is a massive bonus. If you don't need the keyboard, and can wait a little while, I would jump all over the Nexus Prime/ galaxy Nexus/ whatever they're calling that 4.65" piece of sexiness! Either way, you'll end up satisfied imo.
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The biggest bugger for me is the lack of RAM. Phone would have been a whole lot better if it had 1GB ram instead 512MB only. The screen is a letdown IMO, but indeed is great in the sun and also better on the battery.
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Aside from the occasional issues from being in Australia, I must say I recommend the Droid 3. It's excellent!

I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from. But I've already convinced pne person to buy this phone, and they text me damn near everyday to thank me.
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Two years ago the Milestone was an awesome terminal for its time.
Nice design, perfect size, one of the best display ever seen, incredibly good audio quality and decent CPU power.
The only drawbacks were the horrible battery life, the cheap keyboard and the crap camera.
The D3, although can't be considered a bad phone, is the shadow of what the MS1 was.
The performances (I mean the real ones, not the benchmarks) aren't on par with one years old phones, the crap camera and the poor battery life are still there, the keyboard is improved but is still built like a toy, while the phone grown more than the display, the display went from the best available to the worst ever seen, the signal sensitivity went from the top to the "below the average". The audio quality, while better than the HTC phones is not on par with the motorola ancestors.
As I already said, my Desire Z (aka G2) was a better phone in any area, excluding the audio level and the lack of the numeric ROW.
From my point of view was a boring phone, everything worked from the beginning, good battery life, great photos, super stable system, good keyboard, and fantastic tethering capabilities.
The display was also good, not as the one on the Milestone 1, but light years better than the Droid 3's one.
All in all I suggest to buy the D3 only if you can get a very good deal.
If you like a ready to go smartphone, a DZ/G2 is still a way better choice, especially considering its today average price.

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I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from.
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i think people come from older phones and get hung up on the numbers when with a better processor and other amenities a 'low' RAM really isn't a factor and can actually make the phone faster with everything cached and saved to the system memory. I don't even check the RAM since i've never had an issue with slow or choppy speed.
Also i go a whole day with my phone and end with 30% battery at the end of the day. i use it heavy while im out, not as much when home from work but even then i come home with 50-40% battery. I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.

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I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.
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Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.

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Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.
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Idk I hear people on Verizon say the same thing and we get pretty good service just about everywhere. sure at my old job where I was tucked in the basement my phone would die quickly but I couldnt blame that on the phone or the software, like you said it's the radio trying to get signal. I think it more depends on the user and how they use the phone/what services they run.
I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
All in all I think the D3 is one of the best Android options out. Plus i'm petty and like the fact that not everyone around here has one since it didn't seem to get a bunch of publicity...people still ask me 'What phone is that???"

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I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
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When I bought the MS1 "wi sync plus" was the program that saved the ms1 form a jump out of the window.
Btw i never tried any wi sync+ clone, like juice defender.

I'm about to purchased D3 today. Too bad it's hard to find one here. Already ask the seller to check with the supplier if there is any. I only found Motorola Atrix at one single shop here.
This is definitely my choice right now. In my opinion, 512MB RAM is enough for a dual core 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 SoC processor. PowerVR SGX540 is just nice, too bad that it only support OpenGL 2.0 and not DirectX as in Playstation Vita with PowerVR SGX543.
QWERTY keyboard has improved a lot this time. It had HDMI Type-D, Physical Button for Camera & Sound Volume & Micro-USB. I really hope it will get ICS update when it release and capable of USB Host. Another thing is that Motorola had been bought by Google, I believe Motorola will have latest update every time new Android version released. I hope so
One thing that make me stay away from Samsung Galaxy S2 is that it had one single port Micro USB for everything(HDMI through MHL, USB data, USB Charging, USB Host)
If i use HDMI output, then I cannot use USB Host at the same time. I wonder if the USB Host adapter connected to USB Hub, can it handle and recognize multiple device such as keyboard, mouse,game controller,USB Pendrive etc?

Yeah, but the way I understand it, even the phones that have 1gb of RAM right now (Atrix, Bionic) dont really have 1gb because 512mb is locked to be used with Webtop. And so far as I have been able to find, no other phone has more than 512mb right now. Can anyone confirm?
This mattered to me because I have an Atrix right now on AT&T and I absolutely love the phone, but can't take the ****ty service everywhere anymore, have to switch to Verizon. I had basically three phones I was looking at in the Amazon penny sale, D3, Bionic and the new Samsung qwerty, Supernova or something. So, if the above is right, the D3 I'm getting is essentially the same phone as my Atrix now without Webtop (don't care) or 4g (not here for years, boucou wifi) but with a physical kb, which actually makes it way better. I actually really, really like Gingerblur, and if it's slow I dig Launcherpro, so I should be good, yeah?
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This. Coming from an Atrix getting HDMI mirroring will be a big deal to me; I didn't buy any docks and haven't rooted or reflashed other than official 2.3 update, so the only thing I ever get over HDMI is the media player interface. Which is cool, but I want something else.
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Anything I should know?

Work is supplying me with this phone on Monday, I am relatively sure they will update it before giving it to me. So no root for now.... Even if it isn't I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the current root methods.
Anything I should know about the phone?
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It's pretty fast and powerful.

Root situation:
I'm an owner of this phone for about two months now, coming from the Droid Razr Maxx HD and the Droid Razr before that. As someone who has owned those phones and has used, rooted, and ROMed other phones for friends, I can tell you that the root and bootloader unlock situation situation is terrible. The short answer is there will likely never be a rock solid root method (Mofo is lame) and certainly no ROMs coming this way. My previous phones have had amazing ROM support over the years and a reliable root method as well as an amazing bootloader unlock on the HD. Using the Turbo, initially I craved having root but that feeling subsided after some time (stock ROM is somewhat nice on this). When I finally realized I wanted to use Tasker and Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware, I felt high and dry by Verizon and now let's say I'm super pissed at the situation and really want root.
Verizon bloatware and updates:
Originally, I didn't care considering I love Motorola's implementation of Android but it wasn't long until I realized this isn't just a Moto phone, but a Droid one as well. The bloatware is unreal and needs to be disabled ASAP. The Command Center widget that some people have been going nuts over is actually really bad and uses a little fortune of your battery reserves. The Circle widget from the previous Droids is actually way superior; it is more attractive, just as useful, and is smooth unlike Command Center (4FPS animations). Let's just say I wished I had a Moto X 2014 over this strictly because of the Verizon situation on this phone. This doesn't just include bloatware, but updates as well. This was a struggle for me to wait for Lollipop on this thing because I've used Cyanogenmod 12.1 on my Razr Maxx HD. When Lollipop actually came, I was bored of it instantly because I've already used it in the past. When Android M comes out, I'm scared to see the wait for this phone. The Moto X 2014 will probably get it in a week or two and we will be waiting until at least March. Also, it is worth noting that some features are completely absent on this phone like User profiles. Thanks Verizon.
Moto software:
The custom Moto stuff on this phone is another story though. It is the reason to use a Motorola phone. Touchless control is handy, camera and flashlight gestures even handier, and being able to text and drive without looking at the phone is a nice touch. Moto Display is probably the crowned jewel of the software though. As a design critic, the interface is actually kind of ugly, but it is so damn useful and battery friendly. I seldom ever hit the power button. It was the only reason I could deal with Kitkat on this phone, it was the stuff that kept me intrigued coming from my Razr Maxx HD which never got the same Moto love.
Build quality/hardware:
The build of the phone is disappointing, even on the ballistic nylon variant. I doubt there is any metal on the outside of the phone, if so it is just metallic paint over plastic. The ballistic nylon is fun for a week but then you wish you still had a kevlar back. Don't get me wrong, I prefer this ballistic nylon WAY more than plastic and about as much as metal construction, but I have never enjoyed a material like I have kevlar. Kevlar is smooth and provides the perfect grip, as well as surprisingly good protectiveness. I doubt this phone will withstand many drops like my Razr Maxx HD, that phone took multiple screen-first asphalt drops. This was due to it's front edges that extended slightly over the screen. This is ALMOST absent on the Turbo, the screen edges extend only very slightly to protect the screen. Speaking of the screen, the screen is quite good. It is very clear and colorful although not as color accurate as I would have liked. AMOLED burn is present on this phone but only barely. Also, I MISS ONSCREEN BUTTONS SO MUCH. The camera is really excellent at taking pictures of still moments in good lighting. In low light, it is slightly above average and takes pretty grainy shots. The weak point of the camera is the speed of it; not the wait after you take the picture but the speed it can handle. It cannot take a moving picture to save its life. As a final point, the speaker is absolutely terrible. It is front-facing but it is so damn quiet. I digress with MKBHD, "It's not the best front-facing speaker but I'd take it over any rear-facing speaker". I'd take the extremely loud rear-facing speaker on my Razr HD Maxx over this quiet one any day. I've never realized how important speakers are to me on a phone until now. The only redeeming quality is that because it is so quiet, it has decent nuance and hardly ever distorts.
Performance:
I think this is easily the fastest phone I have ever used. It was pretty fast on Kitkat but I'm pretty damn sure it's even faster on Lollipop. This thing is a speed beast and it really shows. I thought nothing could ever be faster than the G2 on Cyanogenmod but this phone proves that notion wrong. It puts every other phone to shame, even the Galaxy S6 and the iPhone 6. Maybe this phone is on par with the S6 in performance or slightly worse, but this phone still came out way earlier. It also scores 54,000 on Antutu in case you were wondering. It was 50,000 on Kitkat.
Battery Life:
This is a mixed bag. It's better than other phones but I've been spoiled by some other phones that I've used. I got anywhere between 2-5 hours of screen-on-time with Kitkat. With Lollipop, I'm getting 4-5 and it's been somewhat consistent. Most people on forums have been posting battery stats of this phone and they have been getting 5-7 consistently. It doesn't help that this phone has terrible standby time. I can go to sleep with 15% left and it will be dead when I wake up. My case may be irregular so take this with a grain of salt. I may perform a factory reset in the future and see how that fares. However, the Turbo charger is truly glorious and charges this phone really fast. It has been a life saver countless time and I'm happy it came in the box. It also supports wireless charging. I've used it a few times but I prefer the faster Turbo charger.
Overall:
I've mentioned the Razr HD Maxx many times, I know I know, but in my experience with the Turbo...it hasn't been that good when compared to my old phone. The reason I don't go back is because of the speed, fantastic camera (in good lighting only), "actual" AMOLED screen that is also much clearer (the older Droid phones don't seem to be true AMOLED), and added Moto features. And also because I gave the old phone to my girlfriend...
Recommendation:
If your work phone is going to also be your daily driver, I might suggest getting a personal phone as well. The Moto X 2014 is really appealing to me. Strangely enough, owning the Turbo has made me crave the Nexus 6 like something fierce, and I have small hands which is strange. The Nexus 6 has better build quality, better software and updates (excluding Moto goodies) , much better speakers, possibly better battery life, and most of all ONSCREEN BUTTONS; it's just a matter of adjusting to size and having a slightly worse camera albeit kind of faster camera. If you actually do enjoy the Turbo with its awesome speed, nice camera, great Moto additions, pretty screen, above average battery life, mediocre build quality, slow updates, lack of root, and lame speakers then I have another recommendation. Install Google Now Launcher and activate it as your default launcher. The latest Google Play Music update added free music stations so I would use that as a music player. Use Google Keyboard (should be default keyboard already) and set the appearance to Material Dark. Activate Hangouts as your default SMS app. Go into settings and configure the Moto software. Deactivate the lock screen (set it to none) because you don't want to unlock your phone twice. Activate developer options and set transition animation scale to .5x. Finally deactivate the Verizon bloatware: Amazon, Amazon app suite, Amazon Kindle, Amazon Music, Appstore, Audible, Caller Name ID, Cloud, Command Center, Droid Zap, Email, Family Base Companion, IMDb, Message+ (actually not a bad app), Mobile Hotspot, Motorola Flip Case, My InfoZone, NFL Mobile, Quickoffice, Slacker Radio, Support & Protection, Verizon Location Agent, and VZ Navigator.
Now I think that is all you possibly need to know about the Droid Turbo.

Thanks, the turbo was my pick, I had very few higher end options. Basically just the turbo, s5 and the note 3. I've been a Samsung fan boy for a while now, but I owned the razrm and enjoyed the experience. Mind you I waited over a year for root. But the happiness of boot loader unlock came with it.
Root seems to be rare in all phones these days. And my next phone may have to be bought out of pocket. But for now this one looked like it deserved a try. From the razrm to this will be an amazing speed increase and from 700 megs to 3000 megsnof ram Motorola has room to grow. My razrm could barely handle kitkat. Could not handle lollipop.
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Thanks, the turbo was my pick, I had very few higher end options. Basically just the turbo, s5 and the note 3. I've been a Samsung fan boy for a while now, but I owned the razrm and enjoyed the experience. Mind you I waited over a year for root. But the happiness of boot loader unlock came with it.
Root seems to be rare in all phones these days. And my next phone may have to be bought out of pocket. But for now this one looked like it deserved a try. From the razrm to this will be an amazing speed increase and from 700 megs to 3000 megsnof ram Motorola has room to grow. My razrm could barely handle kitkat. Could not handle lollipop.
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I don't think you'll be disappointed. Although LOLLIPOP does have some glitches that people are a little upset about, this phone is the top of the line by far. My friend has the note 4 and we both ran benchmark tests. My turbo was on kitkat and his on lollipop and still this phone won by about 7,000 . I would definitely recommend this phone to anyone, even with the glitches of lollipop which will hopefully be addressed soon.