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Before the flaming, I have read and searched many threads before posting.
Reading over the manual:
1. Can you select / Install google maps instead of bing maps like on HD2?
2. If not on Bing maps, does your location auto move as you move, similar to GPS?
3. Never used Zune, does it allow you to sync contacts? not important just interesting to know.
4. For those who have synced to google calendar, is it smooth and fully function? or have you noticed issues?
5. Reading about SRS, many say you have to install an app, according to manual, its in the HTC hub section already installed? which one do we use?
6. Not sure where but I read that future updates will be done auto and not force your phone to be reset to factory default like we currently do with HD2, can this be confirmed? any one know ?
I hate doing updates on HD2, having to re-sync and recreate email accounts and settings, if they do updates without having to reset to factory, such as the new Droid OS does, would be a very easy way to function.
Thank you in advance.
rysky007 said:
Before the flaming, I have read and searched many threads before posting.
Reading over the manual:
1. Can you select / Install google maps instead of bing maps like on HD2?
2. If not on Bing maps, does your location auto move as you move, similar to GPS?
3. Never used Zune, does it allow you to sync contacts? not important just interesting to know.
4. For those who have synced to google calendar, is it smooth and fully function? or have you noticed issues?
5. Reading about SRS, many say you have to install an app, according to manual, its in the HTC hub section already installed? which one do we use?
6. Not sure where but I read that future updates will be done auto and not force your phone to be reset to factory default like we currently do with HD2, can this be confirmed? any one know ?
I hate doing updates on HD2, having to re-sync and recreate email accounts and settings, if they do updates without having to reset to factory, such as the new Droid OS does, would be a very easy way to function.
Thank you in advance.
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1. Currently, only Bing maps is available on the phone, as all primary mapping services also only use Bing (so far). I have yet to come across any apps that use Google Maps, yet.
2. If an application uses the GPS regardless of whether it is using Bing, or Google, or neither, it works the same way where it tracks your location... hence the point of GPS.
3. Zune is for syncing media only at this point. It does not sync your Outlook/Windows/desktop contacts, and currently there is no 'official' way of doing this. Windows Phone 7 relies heavily on the cloud and Exchange server services (Windows Live, Gmail, etc.)
4. Using Google Calendar on the phone is rather simple and straightforward, aside from the limitation that Windows Phone 7 can only currently see your primary calendar only.
5. The SRS and Dolby sound enhancements are HTC-device specific only. You would download the application from the HTC Hub on the Marketplace, which you can only see if you are browsing the Marketplace on an HTC device.
6. Updates are pushed by Microsoft, and not necessarily the carrier (but certainly possible). You are correct that they work more as patches to the system rather than requiring full system re-installs.
I should add that, having been through the hard-reset process recently, getting the phone back to how I had it was fairly straight forward, although there were a couple of time-consuming things:
- set up APN (not needed if you're using an operator-locked phone with the operator's SIM)
- set up WiFi
- Enter Windows Live login details
- Enter Gmail login details
- Enter Facebook details
- Link Gmail contacts with Facebook ones -- most are done for you, but I had about 15 I had to manually link out of 250 contacts.
- Redownload apps. Apparently if you get the apps via Zune Desktop, this happens for you when you resync, but if you've bought/downloaded them via Marketplace, you have to manually redownload.
The bold steps were the time consuming ones. I also lost all saved games, which is frustrating.
Guys thank you for the great and fast responses.
Still a bit confused on the SRS, so is it an app that comes with the phone already? or one we need to get from Market Place?
Also forgot one main question I wanted to ask...
Does WP7 have or need Task Killer?
I know on Droid u have to dl the app,
WM6 came with it
Wm7? dont see any were in manual, do I assume that this new OS actually shuts things down when u close them like it should?
Thanks.
WP7 puts apps to sleep effectively - I can't remember the term they use off hand, but when you navigate away, if the app doesn't ask you if you want to exit, then it will save the state - dehydrated I think is the term! - so it's no longer running in the background. Then when you go back to it, it's rehydrated.
So no task killer.
rob_p said:
WP7 puts apps to sleep effectively - I can't remember the term they use off hand, but when you navigate away, if the app doesn't ask you if you want to exit, then it will save the state - dehydrated I think is the term! - so it's no longer running in the background. Then when you go back to it, it's rehydrated.
So no task killer.
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Not bad, glad to see them follow nokias foot steps on this one.
I hated having task killer but then again its nice to see what is running in back round and bring up a app or process via that as well.
double edge sword i guess
rysky007 said:
Guys thank you for the great and fast responses.
Still a bit confused on the SRS, so is it an app that comes with the phone already? or one we need to get from Market Place?
Thanks.
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The app does not come with the phone. The phones do come with HTC Hub though, and through that application, you can view all the other HTC apps, including the Sound Enhancer one, and download it through there. It is also available through the Marketplace (HTC Hub just basically links you to the Marketplace for its downloads).
Even though we don't have much in the way of Custom ROMS for our beloved XT860 at this point, you can get rid of much of the bloatware and speed up your device quite a bit.
I must give credit to lifeinanalog and his original post on Android Forums regarding bloatware on the Bell XT860.
I am in no way responsible for anything that you do to your phone. While this has worked great for me, it may not work out the same way for you.
You will need root access: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240130
And will need Titanium Backup Pro installed: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackupPro&hl=en
Using Titanium Backup Pro, I have frozen the following Apps. Once you reboot your device, they will no longer appear in your app drawer. You can always bring them back by 'un-freezing' them:
Cardock
Citrix receiver
Connected music player (I use an alternate music player)
Desk Home
DLNA
Facebook Authenticator
Flickr Authenticator
Global Unplug
GPS Navigator
Help Center
Kobo
Media Share
Moto Print
Motorola Dock Service
Myspace Authenticator
News
News & Weather
Orkut Authenticator
Phone Portal
Photobucket Authenticator
Picasa Authenticator
Remote PVR
Self Serve
Social Location
Social Messaging
Social Messaging Service
Social Networking
Suggestions
Suggestions Core Rule Checker services
Suggestions Poll Schedule Service
Toggle Widgets
Top HD Games
Tunes & Apps
Tunes & Apps Widget
TV & Radio
Video Player (I use an alternate video player)
Weather
Zoom Mode
Zoompass
DO NOT FREEZE
Corporate Mail Authenticator
Yahoo Contacts
Yahoo Mail Authenticator
This is known to cause problems with your contacts.
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. If you've frozen something that has caused problems please mention it here. Likewise, if you have frozen other apps not listed above, feel free to share with the rest of us.
Lastly, if this post helped you, feel free to hit the 'Thanks' button.
Honestly I just used Pete's debloat script. Worked fine for me
Sent from my rooted xt860
There are some apps in your list I hesitate to uninstall, I don't really know what they do.
Did you froze them and nothing significant happen or some are only a feature you don't need?
Phone Portal
Suggestions
Suggestions Core Rule Checker services
Suggestions Poll Schedule Service
Toggle Widgets
Zoom Mode
I didn't remove any of the apps that I listed - only froze them.
Have had no problems from freezing any of the apps in the OP.
The 'phone portal' does not affect your ability to make calls. From what I have read it is just another way to connect to the device through your computer. See this post here for more detailed information about it: https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/28340
I am not sure what the suggestions apps do, but freezing them hasn't caused any problems.
Zoompass is a mobile payment service and I am assuming zoom mode is related to it. Again no problems from freezing it.
Endoroid said:
Honestly I just used Pete's debloat script. Worked fine for me
Sent from my rooted xt860
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Thanks, didn't realize that the script could also be used on the XT860, thought it was designed for the Verizon D3 only.
Does the script freeze or remove the apps?
I'm hesitant to remove anything because of the lack of an .sbf for the XT860.
gbarayah said:
Thanks, didn't realize that the script could also be used on the XT860, thought it was designed for the Verizon D3 only.
Does the script freeze or remove the apps?
I'm hesitant to remove anything because of the lack of an .sbf for the XT860.
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It renames. Them to include a .Bak at the end
Sent from my rooted xt860
gbarayah said:
I'm hesitant to remove anything because of the lack of an .sbf for the XT860.
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You can flash the me863 rom
It did throw up some kind of error when I ran it but it did work
Sent from my rooted xt860
I tried doing a manual debloat a while back but didn't really see much performance change. That's why I made those changes to the build.prop files (I posted it under general). My phone is pretty fast, but the battery still really sucks. I think we are all impatiently waiting the XT860 update together!
I manually removed about 50MB of apk's in system/app folder of the 5.7.894 ROM. I did not remove Yahoo and Corporate.
I can't sync the FaceBook and/or Twitter avatars with my address book. Did I remove too many?
sanchezz said:
I manually removed about 50MB of apk's in system/app folder of the 5.7.894 ROM. I did not remove Yahoo and Corporate.
I can't sync the FaceBook and/or Twitter avatars with my address book. Did I remove too many?
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Just install/reinstall facebook from market, I've had similar problems with FB a few times and that's always fixed it.
That didn't work unfortunately. I did not get the question what I'd like to sync; none, all contacts, or existing contacts.
sanchezz said:
That didn't work unfortunately. I did not get the question what I'd like to sync; none, all contacts, or existing contacts.
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You need to keep the blur facebook authenticator if you want to sync facebook with your contacts
About de-bloating:
When I uninstall the blur activesync autenticator I get force-close when I select a contact in the contacts menu.
I can confirm that I do not have the ability to sync Facebook contacts after removing the authenticator (I never synced them to begin with)
I am not have any force close issues with my contacts...
Sent from my XT860 using XDA App
APK names?
Is it possible to get this list of apps with the names of the APK files? I plan on removing them by renaming the apk files, but it isn't always obvious what the mapping between APK and app name is...
-Craig
acwest said:
Is it possible to get this list of apps with the names of the APK files? I plan on removing them by renaming the apk files, but it isn't always obvious what the mapping between APK and app name is...
-Craig
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Hope someone else here can help you out as I'm not longer on the same phone.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus using XDA Developers App
i was looking around didnt see it also after i root is there anything else i need to do to install apk,s from sd card? thanks
LIST OF SAFELY FREEZE-ABLE BIONIC BLOATWARE:
WARNING: Once frozen, you cannot use these apps or their related services. You'll have to unfreeze them.
Backup Assistant 2.3.4
Backup Assistant Client 1.0
Citrix Receiver 2.1.1059
City ID 1.1.7
GoToMeeting 1.0
Guided Tours 2.3.4
Help Center 2.3.4
IM 3.0.4.6
IM Presence 2.3.4
MOTOPRINT 2.0.0.38
News 2.3.4
Slacker 3.0.535
Social Location 2.0* [do not disable if you use any of the Social widgets or other Motorola social tools]
Social Messaging 2.3.4*
Social Networking 2.3.4*
Social Status 2.3.4*
Sticky note 2.3.4
Swype 3.21.87.27685
Tasks 1.0
V CAST Media Manager 4.4.1.0
V CAST Music 03.72.110
V CAST Tones 4.5.11
V CAST Videos 5.72.008
VideoSurf 1.0.10
VZ Navigator 7.2.0.353
djr4x4 said:
LIST OF SAFELY FREEZE-ABLE BIONIC BLOATWARE:
WARNING: Once frozen, you cannot use these apps or their related services. You'll have to unfreeze them.
Backup Assistant 2.3.4
Backup Assistant Client 1.0
Citrix Receiver 2.1.1059
City ID 1.1.7
GoToMeeting 1.0
Guided Tours 2.3.4
Help Center 2.3.4
IM 3.0.4.6
IM Presence 2.3.4
MOTOPRINT 2.0.0.38
News 2.3.4
Slacker 3.0.535
Social Location 2.0* [do not disable if you use any of the Social widgets or other Motorola social tools]
Social Messaging 2.3.4*
Social Networking 2.3.4*
Social Status 2.3.4*
Sticky note 2.3.4
Swype 3.21.87.27685
Tasks 1.0
V CAST Media Manager 4.4.1.0
V CAST Music 03.72.110
V CAST Tones 4.5.11
V CAST Videos 5.72.008
VideoSurf 1.0.10
VZ Navigator 7.2.0.353
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thanks, is rooting all i have to do to install apps from sd card? or what do i need to do? thanks
I would say yes.. I installed bootstrapper from my sd card..
djr4x4 said:
I would say yes.. I installed bootstrapper from my sd card..
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what is bootstrap? is it something i need to do?
Visual voicemail disappeared
I froze the majority of the apps on this list, and while my phone does run much faster, my visual voicemail app seems to be gone. None of the apps I had the option to freeze said anything about visual voicemail, so I'm wondering if it is linked to another app/service that I froze maybe? Any tips on this would be great.
I have the Bionic on Verizon, rooted and using the Liberty ROM. Looking for the factory installed visual voicemail app, unless someone has a suggestion for a better one... Thanks in advance for the help!
djr4x4 said:
LIST OF SAFELY FREEZE-ABLE BIONIC BLOATWARE:
WARNING: Once frozen, you cannot use these apps or their related services. You'll have to unfreeze them.
Backup Assistant 2.3.4
Backup Assistant Client 1.0
Citrix Receiver 2.1.1059
City ID 1.1.7
GoToMeeting 1.0
Guided Tours 2.3.4
Help Center 2.3.4
IM 3.0.4.6
IM Presence 2.3.4
MOTOPRINT 2.0.0.38
News 2.3.4
Slacker 3.0.535
Social Location 2.0* [do not disable if you use any of the Social widgets or other Motorola social tools]
Social Messaging 2.3.4*
Social Networking 2.3.4*
Social Status 2.3.4*
Sticky note 2.3.4
Swype 3.21.87.27685
Tasks 1.0
V CAST Media Manager 4.4.1.0
V CAST Music 03.72.110
V CAST Tones 4.5.11
V CAST Videos 5.72.008
VideoSurf 1.0.10
VZ Navigator 7.2.0.353
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Adding to your list, these are additional ones I have frozen:
Amazon Kindle
Blockbuster
Bluetooth Share (I don't use Bluetooth and noticed these were "running" regardless)
BluetoothDun
LetsGolf
MS Exchange (I don't need it)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 This is in the droid 3 forum section but this also works for the bionic. I used it when I had the stock ROM on mine and it worked with no problems.
going to ask a very stupid question.
what's the difference between uninstalling them and freezing them with titanium?
and i do not have the pro version are most of the apps there okay to uninstall if i'm pretty sure i won't be using 99% of them.
nerdyplayer said:
going to ask a very stupid question.
what's the difference between uninstalling them and freezing them with titanium?
and i do not have the pro version are most of the apps there okay to uninstall if i'm pretty sure i won't be using 99% of them.
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You can unfreeze with the touch of a button.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk
nerdyplayer said:
going to ask a very stupid question.
what's the difference between uninstalling them and freezing them with titanium?
and i do not have the pro version are most of the apps there okay to uninstall if i'm pretty sure i won't be using 99% of them.
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Geezer Squid said:
You can unfreeze with the touch of a button.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk
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Yeah. If you uninstall, there's no way to get it back without pushing/installing the apk manually (Which is really bad if your phone needs the uninstalled app to run).
If you just freeze it, it has all the effects that uninstalling does (keeps the system from reading/using it) except if you need it back, just press unfreeze and all is well.
Google Voice, YouMail
I Hate Import Cars said:
I froze the majority of the apps on this list, and while my phone does run much faster, my visual voicemail app seems to be gone. None of the apps I had the option to freeze said anything about visual voicemail, so I'm wondering if it is linked to another app/service that I froze maybe? Any tips on this would be great.
I have the Bionic on Verizon, rooted and using the Liberty ROM. Looking for the factory installed visual voicemail app, unless someone has a suggestion for a better one... Thanks in advance for the help!
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I actually have never seen the verizon visual voicemail app on my Bionic. Hard to believe, I know. So, are you paying for the Verizon VVM service?
When I was waiting for a Google Voice invitation I found a pretty cool VVM app called YouMail; it allows you to set different answering machine greetings for different people or groups. I think I just wanted Google Voice so bad, I didn't hang long enough with YouMail. Both are totally free!!
Location to download deleted stock APK's?
I am a noob to XDA but I rooted my Bionic right when I got it about 6 months ago. After I rooted it I deleted a few of the bloatware app's that I thought I would never need, but I did not realize that it would mess up OTA updates. I now want to get the .902 update but it keeps failing. I am assuming it is because I deleted City ID, Slacker Radio, V CAST Media Manager, V CAST Music, VCAST Tones, and V CAST Videos. I have looked all over XDA and the web and have not found them anywhere to download. Can anyone send me these files so I can get the update? I could do a complete restore but I would prefer to do it this way. If you have any other suggestions please let me know. Thanks.
dholmes2004 said:
I am a noob to XDA but I rooted my Bionic right when I got it about 6 months ago. After I rooted it I deleted a few of the bloatware app's that I thought I would never need, but I did not realize that it would mess up OTA updates. I now want to get the .902 update but it keeps failing. I am assuming it is because I deleted City ID, Slacker Radio, V CAST Media Manager, V CAST Music, VCAST Tones, and V CAST Videos. I have looked all over XDA and the web and have not found them anywhere to download. Can anyone send me these files so I can get the update? I could do a complete restore but I would prefer to do it this way. If you have any other suggestions please let me know. Thanks.
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http://www.droidforums.net/forum/mo...-5-893-fxz-901-902-compatible-902-update.html
or this
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13105-a-easier-way-back-to-the-update-path/
There are other ways to get back on the OTA update path. Just look around and you'll find them.
Good luck
djr4x4 said:
LIST OF SAFELY FREEZE-ABLE BIONIC BLOATWARE:
WARNING: Once frozen, you cannot use these apps or their related services. You'll have to unfreeze them.
Backup Assistant 2.3.4
Backup Assistant Client 1.0
Citrix Receiver 2.1.1059
City ID 1.1.7
GoToMeeting 1.0
Guided Tours 2.3.4
Help Center 2.3.4
IM 3.0.4.6
IM Presence 2.3.4
MOTOPRINT 2.0.0.38
News 2.3.4
Slacker 3.0.535
Social Location 2.0* [do not disable if you use any of the Social widgets or other Motorola social tools]
Social Messaging 2.3.4*
Social Networking 2.3.4*
Social Status 2.3.4*
Sticky note 2.3.4
Swype 3.21.87.27685
Tasks 1.0
V CAST Media Manager 4.4.1.0
V CAST Music 03.72.110
V CAST Tones 4.5.11
V CAST Videos 5.72.008
VideoSurf 1.0.10
VZ Navigator 7.2.0.353
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GertBFrobe said:
Adding to your list, these are additional ones I have frozen:
Amazon Kindle
Blockbuster
Bluetooth Share (I don't use Bluetooth and noticed these were "running" regardless)
BluetoothDun
LetsGolf
MS Exchange (I don't need it)
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After the .902 update, I found some new apps listed in TBP as not backed up. I'm assuming these are the new apps added with the update (apps I've frozen are bold):
Amazon MP3 2.0.15
Apps 2.00.54
Emergency Alerts 2.3.4
MOG Music 1.0.1
Music 2.3.4
Slingbox 1.0
Videos 1.4.2
VZW Package Installer 1.0
I'm not sure what the 2 unfrozen apps do, so I left them alone.
thecolorsduke said:
After the .902 update, I found some new apps listed in TBP as not backed up. I'm assuming these are the new apps added with the update (apps I've frozen are bold):
Emergency Alerts 2.3.4
I'm not sure what the 2 unfrozen apps do, so I left them alone.
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Emergency will allow your carrier to send you Emergency Alerts based on your geographic location. It's part of the new national Integrated Public Alert and Warning System (IPAWS). The Commercial Mobile Alert System (CMAS) - so essentially you're carrying a weather/emergency radio around with you - and you don't have to "opt in" to the area you're in. Traveling through a blizzard/tornado warning area, it will vibrate and have an audible alert to let you know.
It's been a long time coming & as an emergency preparedness/response professional, I love it. Please don't disable it as bloatware, it's far from it.
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Emergency will allow your carrier to send you Emergency Alerts based on your geographic location. It's part of the new national Integrated Public Alert and Warning System (IPAWS). The Commercial Mobile Alert System (CMAS) - so essentially you're carrying a weather/emergency radio around with you - and you don't have to "opt in" to the area you're in. Traveling through a blizzard/tornado warning area, it will vibrate and have an audible alert to let you know.
It's been a long time coming & as an emergency preparedness/response professional, I love it. Please don't disable it as bloatware, it's far from it.
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Thanks for the explanation. I'll keep it unfrozen. Could prove useful someday
I uninstallEd a couple of apps "bloatware" which I honestly don't remember the needle of, is there any way to get them back?? "restore bloatware"
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using xda premium
The emergency alerts will also let you know when there is an amber alert, or at least it is supposed to.
Sent from the Evil Empire
dholmes2004 said:
I am a noob to XDA but I rooted my Bionic right when I got it about 6 months ago. After I rooted it I deleted a few of the bloatware app's that I thought I would never need, but I did not realize that it would mess up OTA updates. I now want to get the .902 update but it keeps failing. I am assuming it is because I deleted City ID, Slacker Radio, V CAST Media Manager, V CAST Music, VCAST Tones, and V CAST Videos. I have looked all over XDA and the web and have not found them anywhere to download. Can anyone send me these files so I can get the update? I could do a complete restore but I would prefer to do it this way. If you have any other suggestions please let me know. Thanks.
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Yes, that is why your update is failing. If you search around, you can fix the issue (like the link below yours says).
-Adam
So I doubt everyone will use every feature of the device. I just want a feel for what things people have disabled/uninstalled.
My personal list:
Everything with the world Sprint was uninstalled or disabled. Sprint ID and Sprint installer can't be disabled.
BlurbCheckout - Is used to purchase physical photo albums. So NO.
Flipboard - I use News360
Google Play Magazines - Never will buy one
hp Print Service - Never will print
Lumen Toolbar - I will never use the stock browser.
Story Album
Story Album Widget - Never buying it
Swype - Using the stock keyboard for now
Yahoo! Finance - Don't care
I'm not sure if I should disable Samsung Apps or anything else.
M3wThr33 said:
So I doubt everyone will use every feature of the device. I just want a feel for what things people have disabled/uninstalled.
My personal list:
Everything with the world Sprint was uninstalled or disabled. Sprint ID and Sprint installer can't be disabled.
BlurbCheckout - Is used to purchase physical photo albums. So NO.
Flipboard - I use News360
Google Play Magazines - Never will buy one
hp Print Service - Never will print
Lumen Toolbar - I will never use the stock browser.
Story Album
Story Album Widget - Never buying it
Swype - Using the stock keyboard for now
Yahoo! Finance - Don't care
I'm not sure if I should disable Samsung Apps or anything else.
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I love the stock browser
I'm sure it's good, as is Chrome, except all my bookmarks and passwords are synced with Firefox. Makes everything 100x easier to just use that.
Good list. I also disabled Google Play Books, Google+, Samsung Push Service, Gmail and Chrome. I don't use any of those.
BTW, the stock browser does not support Flash. I'm using Boat Browser.
I have the stupid Sprint ID app install the default profile randomly again resetting all my home screens. It's happened on the S 4 and the HTC One on my account.
M3wThr33 said:
So I doubt everyone will use every feature of the device. I just want a feel for what things people have disabled/uninstalled.
My personal list:
Everything with the world Sprint was uninstalled or disabled. Sprint ID and Sprint installer can't be disabled.
BlurbCheckout - Is used to purchase physical photo albums. So NO.
Flipboard - I use News360
Google Play Magazines - Never will buy one
hp Print Service - Never will print
Lumen Toolbar - I will never use the stock browser.
Story Album
Story Album Widget - Never buying it
Swype - Using the stock keyboard for now
Yahoo! Finance - Don't care
I'm not sure if I should disable Samsung Apps or anything else.
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Quick question all; so will disabling a App free up RAM (and/or improve speed & performance) or does it simply remove it from the home screen?
Thank you!
Some of those it doesn't even remove from the home screen. (Like Scout and other pre-installed things)
But mainly it's to prevent them from running background services and taking up space on the device from the updates. An update doesn't replace the original system file, so it essentially doubles the size an app takes, even more as it grows. Though Titanium Backup Pro has a feature to replace the stock app with the update.
Also curious things I disabled, like the Weather widget which doesn't even seem to have an app of its own. Just "Weather Widget"
On a slight tangent, I figured out where Com2usPoker and the Match 3 game are. Go under Group Play->Create Group->Play Games. There you will find those two games listed. The poker requires at least two people, but the Match 3 game has a single player mode.
M3wThr33 said:
Some of those it doesn't even remove from the home screen. (Like Scout and other pre-installed things)
But mainly it's to prevent them from running background services and taking up space on the device from the updates. An update doesn't replace the original system file, so it essentially doubles the size an app takes, even more as it grows. Though Titanium Backup Pro has a feature to replace the stock app with the update.
Also curious things I disabled, like the Weather widget which doesn't even seem to have an app of its own. Just "Weather Widget"
On a slight tangent, I figured out where Com2usPoker and the Match 3 game are. Go under Group Play->Create Group->Play Games. There you will find those two games listed. The poker requires at least two people, but the Match 3 game has a single player mode.
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Thanks, I was going through disabling apps and was wondering what the hell those were. Kudos, sir!
M3wThr33 said:
So I doubt everyone will use every feature of the device. I just want a feel for what things people have disabled/uninstalled.
My personal list:
Everything with the world Sprint was uninstalled or disabled. Sprint ID and Sprint installer can't be disabled.
BlurbCheckout - Is used to purchase physical photo albums. So NO.
Flipboard - I use News360
Google Play Magazines - Never will buy one
hp Print Service - Never will print
Lumen Toolbar - I will never use the stock browser.
Story Album
Story Album Widget - Never buying it
Swype - Using the stock keyboard for now
Yahoo! Finance - Don't care
I'm not sure if I should disable Samsung Apps or anything else.
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Here's what I've disabled so far...
M3wThr33 said:
So I doubt everyone will use every feature of the device. I just want a feel for what things people have disabled/uninstalled.
My personal list:
Everything with the world Sprint was uninstalled or disabled. Sprint ID and Sprint installer can't be disabled.
BlurbCheckout - Is used to purchase physical photo albums. So NO.
Flipboard - I use News360
Google Play Magazines - Never will buy one
hp Print Service - Never will print
Lumen Toolbar - I will never use the stock browser.
Story Album
Story Album Widget - Never buying it
Swype - Using the stock keyboard for now
Yahoo! Finance - Don't care
I'm not sure if I should disable Samsung Apps or anything else.
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I think Flipboard > News360, but that's just my op...
I'd agree with the rest... I don't even own and HP printer why would I need that crap is what I'm saying HP must have paid Sprint to put that crap on...
Also, given the pressure Samsung is getting about lack of storage on the device AND the notorious size of printer drivers, anybody want to bet that'll be uninstallable in a future update AND that it takes up a bunch of room?
I've been searching for an RSS reader that allows to read the feeds offline, but I wasn't able to find anything.
There is no problem installing GrazeRSS and FeedMe, however I get errors when trying to log in with them.
FeedMe supports Feedly only and it shows the Moved temporarily link and then nothing (other apps using Feedly do the same).
GrazeRSS supports Feedly, The Old Reader and Newsblur. Can't log into any of them.
JustReader supports BuzQuz and Feedly. Can't log into Feedly.
GrazeRSS is an open source app, so can be potentially modified to work on Nook Simple Touch.
Luckily gReader works on the NST and allows to share articles to Pocket and Readability. Didn't manage to share via EvenClip since I can't install onto NST.
problems with gReader on NST
After testing gReader for a day I'm not so happy about it. The major problem is a lack of e-Ink theme. You may support this request at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/g_reader/wcn6jLFQaY0
Another problem for me is with scrolling. When I scroll down in many cases it scrolls up. Tried to push harder and it helps sometimes, but still far away from usable.
And I can't find a way for NoRefresh to work with gReader. When I activate NoRefresh via the 3 downward taps, it seems that gReader thinks this is a gesture for it, so NoRefresh is not turned on.
I would also like to find a reader app that works with feedly on the NST. I would probably use my Nook to read my feeds more than actual books if I could get something working.
The best use for nook apart from reading is filtered news. I have installed a version of News and Weather which opens the links in my default browser (Opera Classic (Mobile)) and have setup my custom news keyword filters as on my other android devices.
RSS is much better. Best RSS app is gReader+ which does not have ads like greader. Reader+ is the second best reader IMO.
Since google shut down rss synching in July, you have a few options to have your rss feeds stored online for rss readers to setup with. Feedly is best and has its own web(works in opera classic) & app(not installable) reader too but it is too much like a magazine for me. Others are theoldreader (free) & bazqux (30 days free but good for import/export before 30 days). These are good as your rss account synch, their readers are not good for me.
I have tested many rss apps mentioned before in nooktouch threads. None of them are working properly. Only greader from market worked and imported my feeds. Problem is it has ads. I tried numerous apps mentioned here but most are dead, others fail import from feedly or theoldreader.
I tried about 20 versions of greader+. The old ones do not have import from feedly/theoldreader. The new ones fail on import mostly fail after pressing import from feedly/theoldreader, those few greader+ that do not and attempt stop saying untrusted network certificate error.
Very recent versions of greader+ actually do not run on NTS 2.1 android, screen just flashses and aborts. If anyone finds a working rss reader which imports subscriptions from feedly or theoldreader or bazqux, or import from files xml/opml let us know here what app and what version or even upload link or file. If I find a solution I will post.
Also import your subscriptions from feedly into theoldreader and bazqux and then export them (download) as both xml & opml files to backup on your PC, also zip & email to yourself and store in your keepers email folder..
In theoldreader site, in options setup a password and then to import elsewhere from theoldreader your id is the gmail email address and your password is the one you just setup, not your gmail password. Feedly uses gmail id & gmail password.
I actually use feedly for my rss management. Since feedly app does not work on nook I found a substitute. It's called "Feedme" and it works quite cool. Have bright theme so you could say it's somewhat optmised for einks. Only minus is no screen refresh. I just put my nook to sleep and wake it up if i want my screen refreshed.
flammenwurfer said:
I would also like to find a reader app that works with feedly on the NST. I would probably use my Nook to read my feeds more than actual books if I could get something working.
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Then you may want to support the following ideas:
Offer Feedly's own login
http://feedly.uservoice.com/forums/192636-suggestions/suggestions/4080705-offer-feedly-s-own-login
(Android client) Support older version of Android
http://feedly.uservoice.com/forums/...droid-client-support-older-version-of-android
Problem logging in on Nook Simple Touch
http://feedly.uservoice.com/forums/...20259-problem-logging-in-on-nook-simple-touch
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I actually use feedly for my rss management. Since feedly app does not work on nook I found a substitute. It's called "Feedme" and it works quite cool. Have bright theme so you could say it's somewhat optmised for einks. Only minus is no screen refresh. I just put my nook to sleep and wake it up if i want my screen refreshed.
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I tried FeedMe, but didn't manage to log into Feedly. Just get an empty page likewise with any other RSS reader supporting Feedly.
What version do you use?
outlogic said:
I tried FeedMe, but didn't manage to log into Feedly. Just get an empty page likewise with any other RSS reader supporting Feedly.
What version do you use?
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I'm using v1.3.6, also I didn't have such problem. It worked out of the box.
prosty said:
I'm using v1.3.6, also I didn't have such problem. It worked out of the box.
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Interesting. How did you root your device? Do you use a custom kernel?
Personally I used ZeroChaos + NookManager + NTGAttack + NoRefresh + custom kernel #166 on my NST.
Feedly login used by most to authorize access feeds crashes with android 2.1 on NST. Feedme like many crashes on that for me.
Best way is to register with feedly, first, then via that with theoldreader, bazqux & ino reader And to import the xml & opml format file they generate to download.
greaqder was synched as I said before but it has ads in article list.
I got RssDemon from market to synch last night which is better as layout is similar and also gives dark theme. Better yet the ads appear not in article list but in article. It also opens links in my default browser, opera Classic aka mobile.
Better yet, I downloaded a copy of the paid version RssDemon elite last night with the license file to get rid of the ads.
JustReader also synched from market, similar enough layout to the two above, and typed in liNk (sdcard/feedly.opml) to synch feeds from file. Also a license file I downloaded worked. Exit generates crash log but does not matter as settings are remembered. Backup file generation does not work but with liceNse is ad free.
Best is ad free licensed rssdemon now, install Rssdemon elite old file, do not run, install license apk. then licensed justreader (market apk). Third best is greader from market with ads.
Best would be greader+ but newer ones crash, older ones feedly synch crashes, oldest oNes before July worked with Google rss only which is nowdead
wozhere said:
Third best is greader from market with ads.
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I haven't seen any ads in free greader. But ZeroChaos filters ads somehow, so may this is the case.
And I don't mind paying for greader+ if the add an e-Ink theme https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/g_reader/wcn6jLFQaY0/V7XtZEutPIgJ and most importantly fix the problem with NoRefresh.
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I haven't seen any ads in free greader. But ZeroChaos filters ads somehow, so may this is the case.
And I don't mind paying for greader+ if the add an e-Ink theme https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/g_reader/wcn6jLFQaY0/V7XtZEutPIgJ and most importantly fix the problem with NoRefresh.
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Zerochaos (i disabled root in config.txt) got stuck in launcher choice popup at start and many apps kept crashing while frozen. Had to restore a nandroid backup from yesterday. There is a clash with latest uimage I have probably.
The difference between greader & plus is the ads. I tried Zerochaos (Zerolab) as wanted adfree & anysoftkeyboard & Zeam (latest ones don't work). Can you upload these (/data/app or maybe in /system/app/)? Or at least tell us what versions they are?
AppBak generates a text file of installed apps/version number:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.moparisthebest.appbak&hl=en
P.S. No response from our friend. NVM. I tried from latest Zeam versions, a few days ago, but they didn't work on NST. Zeam Launcher is a free app, xda thread too, now sadly discontinued in favor of SickSky. I have used it as backup launcher, debugging etc., on my phones for a couple of years as it's so light. Usually use Nova. Versions 3.x don't work on NST. Versions 2.0.x work as do 2.2.x all the way up to 2.8.7 and 2.8.8. Versions 2.9.x and up don't work. Use v2.8.8. Advantage over ADW supplied with Glownooter is the dock can have more icons, I put 10 apps on it.
Also just installed a recent version of adfree, v0.8.66, seems to work.
I've figure out a workaround to the Feedly login issue: You can install the desired app on another android device, sign in to Feedly in the app there, and then back up the data, transfer it to the Nook, and restore it there. This worked for me for both JustReader and FeedMe, and probably works for any other app that runs 2.1. According to Feedly's API, they use OAuth with tokens that expire, but the app can refresh them. So if the app is coded correctly, in theory it should request a new token from Feedly without user input and you shouldn't see an expiration. However, if it does expire or require you to log into Feedly again for whatever reason, you would just need to redo the steps of authenticating on another Android device and then copying the data over.
Hope this helps!
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Akkifokkusu said:
I've figured out a workaround to the Feedly login issue: You can install the desired app on another android device, sign in to Feedly in the app there, and then back up the data, transfer it to the Nook, and restore it there.
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I've been trying to do this but haven't succeeded yet. I installed FeedMe on my phone, logged in and transferreded both the folder at /mnt/sdcard/com.seazon.feedme/ and the file at /data/davlik-cache/[email protected]@[email protected] to the nook. I CHMODded both to match the native versions on the nook. So far it hasn't brought me success.
Is this the approach you are describing?
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The best use for nook apart from reading is filtered news. I have installed a version of News and Weather which opens the links in my default browser (Opera Classic (Mobile)) and have setup my custom news keyword filters as on my other android devices.
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Can you share your copy of News &Weather that's compatible with opera mobile?
THANKS!
case-sensitive said:
Can you share your copy of News &Weather that's compatible with opera mobile?
THANKS!
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Sure.
In settings, custom news topics, add your own keywords of special interest + delete topics not wanted.
I really like the older version of News and Weather that doesn't open an external browser but the scrolling difficulty caused me to abandon it. The BBC news app is marginally better and at least the text is resizable. I just find that the constant switching back and forth between a feed app and the browser in the more "recent" version of News and Weather is painful.
I'm trying NewsHog now and it behaves marginally better for scrolling, offers an optional condensation of the article and then an option to open the full article in an internal browser with the same sort of scrolling issues. SIGH. I wrote to the developers and suggested an option to port scrolling to volume buttons but afterwards realized this was not a good idea because the app comes with a TTS feature (of no use on the Nook ST, of course).
So...is there a way to switch back and forth between the feed app and the browser without closing the browser and then waiting for it to reopen when you select the next item? Seems so clunky--even for a rooted Nook ST
The whole point of this news widget (developer stopped, search xda, another guy copied the app & put ads on it) is setting it up with your personal keyword filters for news topics. If you don't haVe any special iNterest keywords to search for, you might as well use any other general news app.
To list recent apps & switch to: clicking and holding on the home icon in the app: Button Saviour
That's the right arrow on all pages in the pics here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2612340
I use the old pro version 1.5.2 (see list, it's in red) which works on NST, but the free version is in the NST sub-forums here too as part of an OS or something.
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For:
Listing current & recent (greyed) apps + switching to + killing (long-press):
From homepage of android: TaskSwitcher by shisho (also in list)
Should Be on every anDroid homepage and/or dockbar
I think that I've found the problem with feedly auth, they use a certificate from RapidSSL that isn't included in android 2.1 if we include the certificate from GeoTrust Global CA (RapidSSL is an intermediate CA of GeoTrust) I think that should work