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anybody know is there a way to have my 3g/H /edge connection disabled when the screen is off like in the wifi sleep policy??
seems a bit of a waste having wifi set to sleep when screen is off if the 3g /edge connection becomes active.
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One of the main use of a smartphone is to receive emails and such while the screen is off. So the answer is no, but I guess you can find a 3rd party utility on the market that does it if you really want to.
Wifi takes more power than EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA
zorxd said:
One of the main use of a smartphone is to receive emails and such while the screen is off. So the answer is no, but I guess you can find a 3rd party utility on the market that does it if you really want to.
Wifi takes more power than EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA
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thx man. . i always thought 3g /h took more power!!
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I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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hmmm . . might try that
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Grizza666 said:
I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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looks like a good app. maybe just what Im looking for. thank you.
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If your life /phone usage would be better not receiving emails etc twenty four hours a day then control your phone to your needs the definition of smart is definitely not email day and night .
A Smartuser who does not depend upon receiving emails twits and facebook then use an App like Quick Settings to turn mobile data off when not needed .
You use the phone dont let it use you .
jje
JJEgan said:
If your life /phone usage would be better not receiving emails etc twenty four hours a day then control your phone to your needs the definition of smart is definitely not email day and night .
A Smartuser who does not depend upon receiving emails twits and facebook then use an App like Quick Settings to turn mobile data off when not needed .
You use the phone dont let it use you .
jje
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ya my thoughts exactly. id like data mode to be on only when the phone is active not 24/7.
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I use Tasker to turn of my data connection on screen off, then turn it on every 15 min for 1 min to allow checking for mails and stuff
Grizza666 said:
I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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this app is a great idea but did you find it slowed your phone down?? the minute i took it off again the phone sped up. ive got docs js3 and hardcores latest kernel with tweaks and lagfix on.
gonna try tasker now.
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zorxd said:
Wifi takes more power than EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA
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I'm almost certain it's the other way round!
XlAfbk said:
I use Tasker to turn of my data connection on screen off, then turn it on every 15 min for 1 min to allow checking for mails and stuff
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bloody hell. . i cant get this to work at all. sooo complicated. i aamt get past the priority part . going around circles now.
must i create one event for when screen off and then another event for when screen is on??
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ok managed to get profile set up for data to switch off when display is off and vice versa.
only thing is in the notifications bar it says 'no active profiles'??
how do i know he its working?
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you could add additional "Notify" events for testing, they'll have a timestamp indicating when the even fired.
My Tasks:
Event Display Off
Wait: 10 Seconds (in case it went off for inactivity but I'm still doing stuff)
Mobile Data: Off IF %SCREEN ~ off
Event Display On
Mobile Data: On
Clock From 0:00 every 15 min Till 23:59
Mobile Data: On
Clock From 0:01 every 15 min Till 00:00
Mobile Data: Off IF %SCREEN ~ off
cool. just set this up now. this app is unreal !!!!
thanks for that
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Hello!
Would like to know how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
I have unlimited 3G plan so I don't care about data traffic and no mater what I do battery last 1 day, so I don't care about power saving.
Thank you, Denis
denis1304 said:
Hello!
Would like to know how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
I have unlimited 3G plan so I don't care about data traffic and no mater what I do battery last 1 day, so I don't care about power saving.
Thank you, Denis
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Settings - Screen - Set screen timeout to 30 minutes or something, It's not smart to keep 3G - Wifi online, as it will wake your phone from deep sleep and It won't even last 1 day like that.
You gotta find a kernel with no deep sleep support.Also why do you want your 3G to be on while screen is off? Thats nonsene.Most of the apps that use your 3G would keep your phone from locking the screen, so your phone wouldn't enter deepsleep and they could resume downloading.If you wanna save battery by locking the screen, just turn the brightness down.
Try to delete bloatwares, that increased my battery life from 1 day to 2 days, with moderate usage.Try using some different kernels also.
Whats your purpose locking the screen while 3G is on? WiFi hotspot or something?
denis1304 said:
Hello!
Would like to know how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
I have unlimited 3G plan so I don't care about data traffic and no mater what I do battery last 1 day, so I don't care about power saving.
Thank you, Denis
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by default, your 3g should stay on when you turn the screen off/lock it, if they're enabled. you only need to do some things if you DONT want it on when your screen is off.
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Also why do you want your 3G to be on while screen is off? Thats nonsene.
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Background services? Push notifications? It makes much sense (are you sure what you're talking about?). But on the other hand: if there are apps requiring network for such purposes, they usually take care themselves for this requesting corresponding wakelocks from time to time (background services). Just push notifications work differently, but here the core system should take care.
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Most of the apps that use your 3G would keep your phone from locking the screen,
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That's plain nonsense. Though they could do so (e.g. requesting a full wakelock), they usually don't. Want an example? Ever heard the chime for a new mail having arrived, as you set your mail client to poll at certain intervals? I've never seen the screen turning on for new mail polls. But admitted, I'm not constantly staring at the screen
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If you wanna save battery by locking the screen, just turn the brightness down.
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Guess you didn't read the question? Denis explicitly wrote: I don't care about power saving. So sorry, but you completely miss the point. No offense meant, thoug :angel:
Izzysoft said:
Background services? Push notifications? It makes much sense (are you sure what you're talking about?). But on the other hand: if there are apps requiring network for such purposes, they usually take care themselves for this requesting corresponding wakelocks from time to time (background services). Just push notifications work differently, but here the core system should take care.
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You wouldn't receive emails 24/7, turning 3G on once an hour or two is enough to check notifications.You wouldn't notice any notifications until you turn on the screen anyway.
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Guess you didn't read the question? Denis explicitly wrote: I don't care about power saving. So sorry, but you completely miss the point. No offense meant, thoug :angel:
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Nope, I just didn't get what he means.He should try to be more specific.His question is short and simple, no one can do anything without knowing what he is trying to do.Theres multiple solutions to a problem mostly and he is just focused on one of them.Keeping screen on 24/7 is not a solution.He should try to use third party apps, some should have options to notify him in some way, It's just nonsense to keep screen on 24/7.
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That's plain nonsense. Though they could do so (e.g. requesting a full wakelock), they usually don't. Want an example? Ever heard the chime for a new mail having arrived, as you set your mail client to poll at certain intervals? I've never seen the screen turning on for new mail polls. But admitted, I'm not constantly staring at the screen
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Thats a different story, I was talking about foreground apps, not background...
Also dude, waste your energy on helping the OP.Instead of commenting on others posts.
ottomanhero said:
You wouldn't receive emails 24/7, turning 3G on once an hour or two is enough to check notifications.You wouldn't notice any notifications until you turn on the screen anyway.
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Wrong again. I hear a chime (new mail notification sound), and then I maybe turn on the screen to look what it was.
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Keeping screen on 24/7 is not a solution.He should try to use third party apps, some should have options to notify him in some way, It's just nonsense to keep screen on 24/7.
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Again, that was not what he asked:
denis1304 said:
how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
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(emphasis mine). He didn't ask for the screen being on, but for the connection. While for 3G, to my knowledge that's the case anyway (as @Flying_Bear already pointed out), this is different for WiFi depending on the settings (WiFi standby policy).
@denis1304: In WiFi settings, you can configure this in the advanced menu.
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Also dude, waste your energy on helping the OP.Instead of commenting on others posts.
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Hello again
Let me explain on example what's that I want from my phone if it's possible.
I use app MightyText or MySMS and while on WiFi it works instantly but if on 3G and phone screen is off for some time, sending SMS start to lag and you need to wait for 10 or 15 minutes for SMS to go through.
Or when I want to install app from my PC over play website its takes also 10 to 15 minutes to start installing app.
While on wifi it takes much less time or start instantly.
Hopefully I explained what I want so you can help me or I expect too much.
Thank you, Denis
While this won't help much: In both cases you mentioned, you are actively performing a task. So you could simply switch on the screen to speed up the action. I've no idea how to do that in a different way automatically, at the moment at least.
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Wrong again. I hear a chime (new mail notification sound), and then I maybe turn on the screen to look what it was.
Again, that was not what he asked:
(emphasis mine). He didn't ask for the screen being on, but for the connection. While for 3G, to my knowledge that's the case anyway (as @Flying_Bear already pointed out), this is different for WiFi depending on the settings (WiFi standby policy).
@denis1304: In WiFi settings, you can configure this in the advanced menu.
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Nice quotes...
In both cases, turning on the screen and 3G once an hour is enough.
Turning the brightness down could save him from locking the screen, that was my point.
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Again, that was not what he asked:
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It is what he exactly asked.He wants his phone to keep 3G - Wifi online while screen is locked.So keeping the screen on wouldn't be a solution, and a third party app could help.
Well, good thing you actually tried to help OP with a few words.You could do that before instead of arguing with me.XDA is no such place, if your commenting on some troubleshooting topic, you should focus on OP.Correct anything I write wrong, BUT focus on OP's question first, thats your priority.
@denis1304
You should try JuiceDefender, I know it's actually a battery saver, but I remember it had some options to sync stuff even while screen is locked.You can set how often it syncs, or turns on the Wifi or 3G to perform such tasks.
I just upgraded from Note 2 to Note 3. My push notifications (for gmail, hangouts and facebook chats) are delayed by 15 mins to upto 2 hours in some cases. I never had this issue with Note 2 (4.1.2 stock), I always used to get notifications instantly. Now with note 3, I receive all notifications with delay and all of them come at the same time after the delay.
I created a text file and I logged my wifi connection using tasker. Wifi doesnt get disconnected, its always connected. My wifi sleep policy is to have wifi always on. I know I have steady wifi connection cause I am using it with other devices.
This occurs only when the phone is idling. If I am actively using it, it works fine. But this is really pain cause whenever someone sends me "instant message" I usually get it after an hour even though I am in full wifi coverage (60Mbps)
Anyone else experienced this problem with their android devices lately? Know of any solution?
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I just upgraded from Note 2 to Note 3. My push notifications (for gmail, hangouts and facebook chats) are delayed by 15 mins to upto 2 hours in some cases. I never had this issue with Note 2 (4.1.2 stock), I always used to get notifications instantly. Now with note 3, I receive all notifications with delay and all of them come at the same time after the delay.
I created a text file and I logged my wifi connection using tasker. Wifi doesnt get disconnected, its always connected. My wifi sleep policy is to have wifi always on. I know I have steady wifi connection cause I am using it with other devices.
This occurs only when the phone is idling. If I am actively using it, it works fine. But this is really pain cause whenever someone sends me "instant message" I usually get it after an hour even though I am in full wifi coverage (60Mbps)
Anyone else experienced this problem with their android devices lately? Know of any solution?
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I had this happen like one time and never looked into the cause of it. It never reoccurred so I just kind of shrugged it off. That's really bizarre...
Just got a note 3 a week ago and all my push notifications (whatsapp, facebook, etc) are delayed when the screen is closed. When it is opened, it delays less.
I tried using the PNF app to change the heartbeat (the non rooted version), messed with all the configurations on the wifi (it happens with wifi on or off).
Still happening after 2 weeks!! No one else having the same issue?
AlwaysNoob said:
Still happening after 2 weeks!! No one else having the same issue?
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I have same problem. Took back my first note 3 thinking it was defective and the new one doing samething. Frustrating.im thinking I'm gonna have to go to different phone sadly
I got the same problem. I have a European version. Sent it back to Samsung but they couldn't find something... Did anyone found a solution yet? Because it's really frustrating.
As of late, I have been running into similar issues, though they don't seem to on a permanent basis (sometimes I get notified within seconds or minutes, sometimes it takes a few hours or until I unlock my device).
My phone is a german version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 running the Samsung stock Android version 4.4.2
One of the possible causes for this upon which I stumbled during my search for a solution was that the push connection might time out once in a while and take up to half an hour to be reestablished due to the long heartbeat interval set in stock Android.
But since the interval should be between 15 minutes (WiFi) and 28 minutes (3G) as stated in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503, this would not account for notifications being delayed by several hours or even not to arrive at all while the screen is turned off.
Does anybody know whether Samsung stock might be implementing some kind of additional sleep mode which might prevent the connection from being reestablished by heartbeat monitoring and maybe even how to turn this 'feature' off without root (last thing I heard, rooting a Note 3 might trigger an e-fuse used as additional security measure for Samsung KNOX, but also allowing them to entirely refuse hardware warranty on rooted devices)?
Thanks!
I sent it back 2 times now, but still no solution. I also want to try a custom rom to see if that fixes it, but I'm also afraid that I lose my warranty if I root my device. If anybody can confirm that the stock rom is the problem, you'd help me a ton!
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I just upgraded from Note 2 to Note 3. My push notifications (for gmail, hangouts and facebook chats) are delayed by 15 mins to upto 2 hours in some cases. I never had this issue with Note 2 (4.1.2 stock), I always used to get notifications instantly. Now with note 3, I receive all notifications with delay and all of them come at the same time after the delay.
I created a text file and I logged my wifi connection using tasker. Wifi doesnt get disconnected, its always connected. My wifi sleep policy is to have wifi always on. I know I have steady wifi connection cause I am using it with other devices.
This occurs only when the phone is idling. If I am actively using it, it works fine. But this is really pain cause whenever someone sends me "instant message" I usually get it after an hour even though I am in full wifi coverage (60Mbps)
Anyone else experienced this problem with their android devices lately? Know of any solution?
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I do face this problem on my note3. I already do hard reset few time but still delay on my whatsapp and yahoo mail. Im using Note 3 LTE running Kitkat 4.4.2
I guess no one has a solution for this yet?
The problem is not app specific. The delay in notification happens all across the board. When my phone is sleeping, i dont get any notification. As soon as I wake it up, all notification come at the same time, including Yahoo mail, Gmail, hangout messages, whatsapp, Google voice, twitter and others.
It seems like the wifi/data is disabled when phone is sleeping. I double checked in the Advanced Wifi option that wifi is always on.
Why only few of us are seeing this issue?
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Why only few of us are seeing this issue?
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It most likely only happens if the provider (your router for wifi, your carrier for 3G/4G) closes a connection after a certain amount of time goes by that it's not used. The heartbeat (the phone sends out a message on the connection every x minutes) keeps the connection open. Either 4.4.2 doesn't send the heartbeat any longer (it's not really part of Android, so there's no guarantee that Google will keep it when they update Android), or the provider of those people seeing the problem has a shorter timeout than the 15 minutes(wifi)/28 minutes (3G/4G) that the phone uses. PNF allows you to shorten the heartbeat time. 5 minutes is usually short enough to work for any connection, but you can shorten it more if you need to. (It won't use more battery - sending a keep-alive message takes a lot less battery than reestablishing the connection.)
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I guess no one has a solution for this yet?
The problem is not app specific. The delay in notification happens all across the board. When my phone is sleeping, i dont get any notification. As soon as I wake it up, all notification come at the same time, including Yahoo mail, Gmail, hangout messages, whatsapp, Google voice, twitter and others.
It seems like the wifi/data is disabled when phone is sleeping. I double checked in the Advanced Wifi option that wifi is always on.
Why only few of us are seeing this issue?
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Make sure your data settings look like this
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Make sure your data settings look like this
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Yes, its exactly like that
power saving on
AlwaysNoob said:
I guess no one has a solution for this yet?
The problem is not app specific. The delay in notification happens all across the board. When my phone is sleeping, i dont get any notification. As soon as I wake it up, all notification come at the same time, including Yahoo mail, Gmail, hangout messages, whatsapp, Google voice, twitter and others.
It seems like the wifi/data is disabled when phone is sleeping. I double checked in the Advanced Wifi option that wifi is always on.
Why only few of us are seeing this issue?
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Do you have power saving on? Cos for me I had it on all the time and as soon as I turned it off it solved the issue! Maybe give it go
I have the same problem:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59148661&postcount=640
Did anyone solve this issue?
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Still happening after 2 weeks!! No one else having the same issue?
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I'm having the same problem on GALAXY DUOS 2...
its very irritating, if you got solution plz tell me..:highfive:
Any one else have the problem of not getting notifications until you unlock the phone? I notice it also with facebook messenger, facebook, and not getting email either. Is this just me or someone else having this problem?
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Any one else have the problem of not getting notifications until you unlock the phone? I notice it also with facebook messenger, facebook, and not getting email either. Is this just me or someone else having this problem?
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Are you completely stock or rooted on a custom ROM?
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ReggieSmith said:
Are you completely stock or rooted on a custom ROM?
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I am completely stock. I do not want to root the device.
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I am completely stock. I do not want to root the device.
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Mine does/did the same thing. Never figured out what it was. Now it is up for sell and I am using my newer HTC One. I think it might be the power saver but never got around to testing it. In PS mode it is supposed to turn data off when the phone is sleeping.
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Mine does/did the same thing. Never figured out what it was. Now it is up for sell and I am using my newer HTC One. I think it might be the power saver but never got around to testing it. In PS mode it is supposed to turn data off when the phone is sleeping.
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messing around with the settings and found it has something to do with the lock screen security. When its set to "none" the notifications works fine. I have tried a couple of the apps for screen locks and are not satisfied with them as far as thier looks. I am really hoping when ATT finally released the kit kat update it will fix this problem. I just sold my LG G2 to get this phone. Kinda disappointed now that ATT released its update today.
I used to have the HTC one but didnt like not having the sd card. I found I like the bigger screens.
Did you finally figure out the solution? I am completely stock, not rooted and have the same issue since last 6 months. I never had any lock screen, so thats not the issue, I always have my phone unlocked.
The problem is not app specific. The delay in notification happens all across the board. When my phone is sleeping, i dont get any notification. As soon as I wake it up, all notification come at the same time, including Yahoo mail, Gmail, hangout messages, whatsapp, Google voice, twitter and others.
It seems like the wifi/data is disabled when phone is sleeping. I double checked in the Advanced Wifi option that wifi is always on. Some people said that the push notification heartbeat might be the issue but why only few of us are seeing this issue and not everyone?
Anyone have any solution?
I have always had my Note 3 on PIN, and I always wake up to at least 2 or 3 emails (sometimes many more), and at least 2 or 3 days I wake up to a new text (I don't text people normally, but Amazon texts me to let me know an order has shipped, etc.)
So it's not the email or text app and it's not the lock screen "as a rule on all devices". It could be a few different things, like allowing wifi to be turned off when the screen is off (that saves so little battery it doesn't make any practical difference - turn it off and keep wifi on all the time). I don't normally run with 3G/4G on, but that shouldn't turn off during sleep, so it wouldn't cause the problem.
I have noticed that despite my Wifi sleep policy being set to keep on during sleep only when plugged in my WiFi is on absolutely all the time. I am sure that this is contributing to less than stellar battery life but I cannot for the life of me find an app or adb command that will simply tell me what the hell is keeping my Wifi on. I am rooted but my googling has led nowhere, so now I pose this question to XDA.
How do I figure out what is keeping my WiFi on/in general figure out what is draining my battery during standby?
HELP ME!
Thanks.
P.S. I find it hard to believe that this question has not been asked before, but all of the solutions I have found did not solve the issue for me or just did not work on my Droid turbo for whatever reason, sorry if this sounds stupid.
Post a screenshot of your settings screen please.
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Post a screenshot of your settings screen please.
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I posted four... I cannot think of any other pages that are relevant.
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Go to your app drawer, tap Settings, post that picture. It will be where you can turn on/off Airplane mode, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth. We need to be certain that your Wi-Fi is indeed off.
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Post a screenshot of your settings screen please.
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Go to your app drawer, tap Settings, post that picture. It will be where you can turn on/off Airplane mode, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth. We need to be certain that your Wi-Fi is indeed off.
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Oh, Okay.
WiFi is on, my question is what keeps it from turning off when I am not using the phone despite the wake policy being set to "keep on only when plugged in"
For whatever it is worth advanced calling is off and network type is set to global.
Huh...
I've been playing with my settings trying to find an answer. I changed my settings to what you have shown in the screenshots. Additionally, I've turned off some others as well, Location in one case. It appears that if Wi-Fi is on, it's always on.
When I'm at home, or when I'm somewhere I trust the Wi-Fi network, I turn it on and leave it on with it set to stay on even while the device is asleep, because it's my understanding that the Wi-Fi radio uses less battery than the cellular radio. I would think that with your settings, once the device goes to sleep, it would disconnect from Wi-Fi and connect to the cell tower, using more battery and your data plan. I have my Wi-Fi set to Always on so that when my device is asleep I still get email, etc., and I can surf or whatnot. When I leave the house, I manually turn Wi-Fi off so that it's not searching for a network, that's gotta be a bit of a battery drain. I'm not a power user and I easily get a solid two full days from my device.
Had the same issue. Not sure of a permanent fix, but cycling airplane mode is a short term fix.
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Had the same issue. Not sure of a permanent fix, but cycling airplane mode is a short term fix.
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Thanks, I'm going to see if that makes a difference on what my device shows.