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Thinking about getting Nexus One

I just recently bought (as in a week ago) an AT&T Pure. It's still in perfect condition, but I promptly installed a custom HSPL, Radio, and Rom since I love customization. It's actually a great phone, the tie in with Facebook is amazing as well, but what bothers me is the speed. It lags too much for my tastes (which was one of the reasons I gave my AT&T Xenon to my girlfriend, it lagged too much). I love customization and I know how to work Linux (played with many distros in virtual machines and I have experience deploying Linux based servers).
I have a couple of questions before I buy yet another phone and try to hopefully recover the cost of my AT&T Pure. Does the Nexus One combine Facebook accounts and contacts? Meaning put the Facebook picture as the contact picture, etc.?
Can you put HTC Sense on the phone without unlocking bootloader (rather not invalidate my warranty so quickly)?
I have looked at two backup solutions, MyBackup Pro and Sprite Backup. Which one is better or can you even recommend a much better backup solution?
Can you sync the phone with Outlook backing up contacts and calendar entries?
Is there a field for birthday/anniversary and does those get automatically entered into the calendar?
Is there a calendar widget? An animated weather widget (like the HTC one)?
Can the phone convert into a toaster? Can I use it to travel into the past and kill myself, but survive? Will it tell me the secret to life?
Is there a way of getting root access, without invalidating warranty? Is root access worth it?
If I get the charging dock, when the phone is fully charged, does the dock bypass the battery and provide power straight to the phone, so the battery does not overcharge? The reason for this question is because I want to dock it in the night and essentially use it as an alarm clock to wake me up for work.
Is the phone worth paying over 500$ for when I have the Pure already?
Does it lag at all? Will updates come one after the other as it did before? From what I understand, the Nexus One get it OTA, so we don't have to wait a year to get the update.
Thank you for your time,
Mario Lopez

Yes, you can combine Facebook accounts and contacts - either importing all your facebook contacts onto the device, or merging those entries with the ones already present on your SIM card or with your Google account.
The only option for getting Sense on this phone (if you really really really really really really really want it, for whatever reason) is to flash a custom ROM - which would require unlocking the bootloader, and thus invalidate your warranty.
I think most everyone on this board uses Titanium Backup - it's a very tasty piece of software, but most of the backup options (with any application) will only have full functionality for settings and data if you are rooted - again with a voided warranty.
Supposedly the latest Android 2.2 update allows syncing with Outlook out of the box, and there are third-party apps that I believe will do the same on the 2.1 builds as well. I can't comment for sure as I haven't used these features yet.
I haven't yet encountered a Birthday/Anniversary field in the stock contacts program - could be there, but I don't know.
There is a calendar widget to display your next appointment, and there are weather widgets. As far as the full up Sense animated weather, nothing included in the stock rom has all those pretty touches, but I imagine there are third-party apps that will.
If you leave the phone running some very CPU-intensive tasks, it can indeed turn into a toaster and get quite warm Traveling to the past and killing yourself would interrupt the fabric of the space-time continuum and is therefor discouraged. That said, it's open-source, so you're free to do what you want. The answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything is 42. You don't need a phone to tell you that.
There are no ways to get root access without voiding the warranty. For me, it's worth it.
Can't answer for the charging dock as I haven't used mine yet (lol), but I imagine it would only trickle-charge once the battery is already charged fully. I leave my phone charging overnight when it needs to, and it hasn't combusted yet. To my knowledge.
The phone is worth it if you're looking for a stupid-fast device with lots of community support and quick updates. Keep in mind it's less expensive than an unlocked iPhone
The interface is very quick and snappy. I see occasional lags, but those are few and far between - especially running the leaked test build of Froyo. The NexusOne will get its Android updates straight from Google and a lot faster than anything HTC-branded (where the base code has to be optimized for Sense).
Hope this helps!

Keep in mind, as well: unlocking the bootloader only voids your software warranty...HTC has numerous times done hardware warranty work on rooted phones - a simple search will pull up several results of this, I'm sure.

MaximReapage said:
Keep in mind, as well: unlocking the bootloader only voids your software warranty...HTC has numerous times done hardware warranty work on rooted phones - a simple search will pull up several results of this, I'm sure.
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The language of the waiver you agree to when unlocking the bootloader DOES NOT specify "software only". I just states that your warranty is void if you continue with the unlocking.
HTC *has* been reported to perform warranty work on phones with unlocked bootloaders and obviously defective hardware, but they are not obligated to do so. They would be well within their rights to charge you for any repairs after you knowingly void the warranty.
I wouldn't send an unlocked phone back to HTC unless you're willing to pay for it - they may not make you pay, but it's much better to be prepared to do so.

codesplice said:
I haven't yet encountered a Birthday/Anniversary field in the stock contacts program - could be there, but I don't know.
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Yes, there is one.

Jack_R1 said:
Yes, there is one.
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How do you get to it? I looked briefly before I made that post and didn't see anything.

Jack_R1 said:
Yes, there is one.
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wtf? really?

codesplice said:
Yes, you can combine Facebook accounts and contacts - either importing all your facebook contacts onto the device, or merging those entries with the ones already present on your SIM card or with your Google account.
The only option for getting Sense on this phone (if you really really really really really really really want it, for whatever reason) is to flash a custom ROM - which would require unlocking the bootloader, and thus invalidate your warranty.
I think most everyone on this board uses Titanium Backup - it's a very tasty piece of software, but most of the backup options (with any application) will only have full functionality for settings and data if you are rooted - again with a voided warranty.
Supposedly the latest Android 2.2 update allows syncing with Outlook out of the box, and there are third-party apps that I believe will do the same on the 2.1 builds as well. I can't comment for sure as I haven't used these features yet.
I haven't yet encountered a Birthday/Anniversary field in the stock contacts program - could be there, but I don't know.
There is a calendar widget to display your next appointment, and there are weather widgets. As far as the full up Sense animated weather, nothing included in the stock rom has all those pretty touches, but I imagine there are third-party apps that will.
If you leave the phone running some very CPU-intensive tasks, it can indeed turn into a toaster and get quite warm Traveling to the past and killing yourself would interrupt the fabric of the space-time continuum and is therefor discouraged. That said, it's open-source, so you're free to do what you want. The answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything is 42. You don't need a phone to tell you that.
There are no ways to get root access without voiding the warranty. For me, it's worth it.
Can't answer for the charging dock as I haven't used mine yet (lol), but I imagine it would only trickle-charge once the battery is already charged fully. I leave my phone charging overnight when it needs to, and it hasn't combusted yet. To my knowledge.
The phone is worth it if you're looking for a stupid-fast device with lots of community support and quick updates. Keep in mind it's less expensive than an unlocked iPhone
The interface is very quick and snappy. I see occasional lags, but those are few and far between - especially running the leaked test build of Froyo. The NexusOne will get its Android updates straight from Google and a lot faster than anything HTC-branded (where the base code has to be optimized for Sense).
Hope this helps!
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It really does help, you answered all of my questions, even the fun ones.
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The language of the waiver you agree to when unlocking the bootloader DOES NOT specify "software only". I just states that your warranty is void if you continue with the unlocking.
HTC *has* been reported to perform warranty work on phones with unlocked bootloaders and obviously defective hardware, but they are not obligated to do so. They would be well within their rights to charge you for any repairs after you knowingly void the warranty.
I wouldn't send an unlocked phone back to HTC unless you're willing to pay for it - they may not make you pay, but it's much better to be prepared to do so.
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Ah okay. So basically, they may or they may not, so it is up to their discretion.
Jack_R1 said:
Yes, there is one.
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Where is it, because I played with the emulator and didn't show any birthday fields.
Now, one last question before I put in my 700$ order. If I buy today, will I get it tomorrow? It says overnight shipping, but then it says it will be shipped out the next business day?

mariolopezjr said:
Now, one last question before I put in my 700$ order. If I buy today, will I get it tomorrow? It says overnight shipping, but then it says it will be shipped out the next business day?
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Overnight shipping applies to after it ships I imagine if you order early in the day, it might ship out that day and get to you the following day. Otherwise, you're probably looking at two days.

codesplice said:
Overnight shipping applies to after it ships I imagine if you order early in the day, it might ship out that day and get to you the following day. Otherwise, you're probably looking at two days.
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Thanks for the quick reply, thanks to you guys, you know have a new Nexus One owner. Now I am selling my AT&T Pure on Craigslist. XD
Now, any suggestions on reading I should do? I've read all the rooting tutorials, it's actually very easy to do, anything else I should read? I am currently in the process of reading the Nexus User Guide.
Lastly, I understand Titanium Backup is the best, but root privileges is needed to fully use it. Does that mean that it can do everything MyBackup Pro and Sprite Backup can do? Because supposedly they can backup quite a bit of stuff. What is the difference?

mariolopezjr said:
Thanks for the quick reply, thanks to you guys, you know have a new Nexus One owner. Now I am selling my AT&T Pure on Craigslist. XD
Now, any suggestions on reading I should do? I've read all the rooting tutorials, it's actually very easy to do, anything else I should read? I am currently in the process of reading the Nexus User Guide.
Lastly, I understand Titanium Backup is the best, but root privileges is needed to fully use it. Does that mean that it can do everything MyBackup Pro and Sprite Backup can do? Because supposedly they can backup quite a bit of stuff. What is the difference?
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Most people use titanium because the interface is more useful. Titanium allows you to create more than app back up but the interface displays the versions and not just the date you decided to back up like mybackup pro. I havent used Sprite Backup but both titanium and mbp backup apks+data, system settings and system data. Both have schedulers. What I like about titanium is that it is usually cooked into roms so its easy to jump roms if its installed but its not like its hard to hop onto the market and get it

I'm not terribly familiar with MBP or Sprite, and have only been using Titanium for the past few days. Basically, pretty much any backup program should be able to make backups of most of your applications, but they're generally going to need root privileges to access some of the system data and settings. At least that's how I understand it... could be wrong. It's happened once or twice.
As for reading.... just stick around here lol. Take a look at some of the sticky threads in each of the N1 subforums - lots of good information there.
Glad to have you on board. I've gotten several of my buddies here to purchase N1s as well

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How do you get to it? I looked briefly before I made that post and didn't see anything.
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It's funny, I never bothered to take a look myself if I can enter it on the phone, I just saw (more than once) Birthday field when looking at the contact of my darling wife.
Now I checked, and you can't change that field from the phone. But the really funny thing is - enter Gmail, load the contact, it has "birthday" field, change the field, and you'll see it on the phone
One more thing - on Froyo there is full integration of Outlook contacts, but they're different from Gmail contacts - they have different fields and different options. I was quite surprised to see it (it's shown easily - Gmail supports multiple mobile numbers under the same category "mobile", Outlook doesn't, so when you try to enter multiple mobile phones to Outlook contact - you discover that it can't be done). Maybe in this respect it's also different - Outlook-derived contacts might allow editing Birthday while Google contacts don't (not from the phone).
And since I'm running Eclair (CM5.0.7.1), I'm not sure what's going on with Gmail contacts on Froyo.

That's for seeing birthdays on calendar:
http://www.nicholasoverstreet.com/2010/03/android-contacts-birthdays-in-your-calendar/

what the heck are you talking about?
he asked where to put in the birthdays @ stock contacts app... we all know there is a birthday calendar...
you can only add the birthday @ contacts.google.com, unfortunately not in the contacts app

Maybe I don't read well, and maybe I do. Read this quote:
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Is there a field for birthday/anniversary and does those get automatically entered into the calendar?
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Well, there IS a field, in stock contact app. You can't enter anything there from the phone - oh well, that's the situation (today, and tomorrow it might be fixed, and I didn't even check for market apps that might already do it). You can make it appear automatically in the calendar, too - link above. Now, what the heck was I writing here? Answering his question, most probably. You want a screenshot of a birthday showing up in stock contact app when viewing a contact? I thought it's trivial to try.

and read this quote , your reply to this quote was "yes there is one"
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I haven't yet encountered a Birthday/Anniversary field in the stock contacts program - could be there, but I don't know.
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ok, understood now. There IS a field but you can not edit it...
I am quite sure codesplice is referring to a field where i can type in a birthday.. not just see it.
think i am the one with reading disabilities..

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Most people use titanium because the interface is more useful. Titanium allows you to create more than app back up but the interface displays the versions and not just the date you decided to back up like mybackup pro. I havent used Sprite Backup but both titanium and mbp backup apks+data, system settings and system data. Both have schedulers. What I like about titanium is that it is usually cooked into roms so its easy to jump roms if its installed but its not like its hard to hop onto the market and get it
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Yeah, I understand what you mean, that makes sense.
codesplice said:
I'm not terribly familiar with MBP or Sprite, and have only been using Titanium for the past few days. Basically, pretty much any backup program should be able to make backups of most of your applications, but they're generally going to need root privileges to access some of the system data and settings. At least that's how I understand it... could be wrong. It's happened once or twice.
As for reading.... just stick around here lol. Take a look at some of the sticky threads in each of the N1 subforums - lots of good information there.
Glad to have you on board. I've gotten several of my buddies here to purchase N1s as well
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Thank you for the information, hopefully it'll be able to backup most of my settings without me having to go root just yet.
Jack_R1 said:
It's funny, I never bothered to take a look myself if I can enter it on the phone, I just saw (more than once) Birthday field when looking at the contact of my darling wife.
Now I checked, and you can't change that field from the phone. But the really funny thing is - enter Gmail, load the contact, it has "birthday" field, change the field, and you'll see it on the phone
One more thing - on Froyo there is full integration of Outlook contacts, but they're different from Gmail contacts - they have different fields and different options. I was quite surprised to see it (it's shown easily - Gmail supports multiple mobile numbers under the same category "mobile", Outlook doesn't, so when you try to enter multiple mobile phones to Outlook contact - you discover that it can't be done). Maybe in this respect it's also different - Outlook-derived contacts might allow editing Birthday while Google contacts don't (not from the phone).
And since I'm running Eclair (CM5.0.7.1), I'm not sure what's going on with Gmail contacts on Froyo.
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That could be a little annoying, I wonder, does that mean if I have a contact John Doe, and I have him in Outlook and GMail, he will appear twice? Maybe I just will not sync with Outlook but the thought of having to type in my 100+ contact list with multiple numbers, emails, etc. make me shudder....
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Actually, I already knew about the Google Calendar, I just didn't think of applying it on the phone! Thanks for the information!
Had to delete the URL because I guess new users are not allowed to post them.
EDIT: I just want to put it out there that you guys have been EXTREMELY helpful. I love helpful communities. Makes me feel welcome.

watercool said:
ok, understood now. There IS a field but you can not edit it...
I am quite sure codesplice is referring to a field where i can type in a birthday.. not just see it.
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Yes, I see your point. That option, unfortunately, is missing (what would be the reason for it - escapes me, really, they already have a field and it syncs, it's VERY weird that it can't be edited). I'm a bit puzzled that I didn't even see it missing until I tried to change it, being asked in this thread Sorry if I mislead you.
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That could be a little annoying, I wonder, does that mean if I have a contact John Doe, and I have him in Outlook and GMail, he will appear twice? Maybe I just will not sync with Outlook but the thought of having to type in my 100+ contact list with multiple numbers, emails, etc. make me shudder....
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If I remember right from playing with Froyo, it also merges contacts based on name, and you'll see one contact with data from both places. If you'll try to edit, though - you'll have to choose, what contact to edit.
You also have options to import contacts from Outlook to Gmail, or to have them sync-ed between Outlook and Gmail by some free SW (one of the pre-Froyo solutions for Outlook contacts).

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If I remember right from playing with Froyo, it also merges contacts based on name, and you'll see one contact with data from both places. If you'll try to edit, though - you'll have to choose, what contact to edit.
You also have options to import contacts from Outlook to Gmail, or to have them sync-ed between Outlook and Gmail by some free SW (one of the pre-Froyo solutions for Outlook contacts).
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Yup. The phone will bring in contacts from all your synced accounts (google, facebook, outlook, twitter, whatever) and merge them based on name. You can then manually correlate any contacts that didn't do it automatically ([email protected] is also Jane Doe).

[Q] 2 Brand New NC and one won't autonooter

I had 2 Nook Colors I bought Friday. Today I have successfully set up one with 1.1.0 and autonooter'd using 3.0. Followed instructions and everything works as assumed.
On the second nook (wife's), I can load Autonooter, but when I get to the YouTube part, it has a network issue. I then try and go to GMail and it says the account is not set up to sync, but where it wants me to set this up is not a settings option in Nook Color Tools or anywhere I know.
I've had to reset this device twice back to factory settings. Can someone give me an idea on what I can try to do this differently?
I tried a third time by setting up the Google Account at the account setup screen during setup, but still have the problem. Seems that there is some GSM settings popping up on this device.
Wife is not happy that my NC can be rooted and her's cannot. I'm to the point of returning hers and getting a new one.

So, her device works fine as-is before trying to root it? Wireless is fine, connections are okay, browser works, etc?
I'd say double-check that you're actually on 1.1.0 if you're using the noot for 1.1.0, or maybe wait for the real Auto Nooter to see if that works better.. Should be out in a day or two hopefully.

Yeah, her device works fine stock. I have flashed it back to stock 1.0, stock 1.0.1, etc. each time doing a sideload update to 1.1.0. I then used the Autonooter for 1.1.0 and I keep getting some issue with setting up her gmail account on the phone.
If I try and set it up during the Android Setup, it loops and simply makes me set it up again. Otherwise, if I skip...I get asked to set up gmail account when trying the YouTube My Channel portion of the setup. I get the network error there.
What I have noticed is that when setting up the account on the Android Start-up section, it gives me a notification of sync/connections, but the account does not setup to sync. This is the problem - I can't find where to make the account sync or complete setup with the Autonooter I guess.
Like I said, my Nook works fine and was the first one I did. I followed the same procedures on her's and it is the same issue each time.
Disclaimer: She doesn't use the Gmail account much, but I logged into on PC. Not sure if that is a factor.
Thanks for your feedback!

lxadoz104 said:
Wife is not happy that my NC can be rooted and her's cannot. I'm to the point of returning hers and getting a new one.
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Best advice I can give (though it seems one device may have something goin on for sure) is that you earn some brownie points and give her yours and get yourself a new one! Amazing the future favors returned by an action like this, hehe.

Great idea. Where can I adjust the account settings for her account in place of mine? (Google account)...Thanks.

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Great idea. Where can I adjust the account settings for her account in place of mine? (Google account)...Thanks.
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Both my wife and I use same account for the Market (really don't like paying twice for apps...we do the same for purchased books from kindle / B&N)...you can add / remove google mail accounts from inside google mail settings. Just click ADD ACCOUNT, and disable yours (or at least disable sync).
**Disclaimer** Sharing apps across multiple devices in the same household is smart, and not a slight to developers at all. We purchase apps and books, and both use them...that's called economical

Oh also.be sure to check out these cases for your new toys! We both have them, and they're perfect!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934081

Have you tried just doing it from 1.0.1? Is there a specific reason you want to be on 1.1.0?

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.I get asked to set up gmail account when trying the YouTube My Channel portion of the setup. I get the network error there.
Disclaimer: She doesn't use the Gmail account much, but I logged into on PC. Not sure if that is a factor.
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Is her G-Mail account linked to YouTube? This is a pre-requisite. Good Luck!

The easy (but time consuming) fix for this is to downgrade to 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 (make sure the downgrade was successful via settings-device info-about or whatever it is.) Then use one of the older auto-nooters to noot that version. From here, if you still would like to have a rooted 1.1 ROM, install rom manager from the Market and use it to flash the 1.1 pre-rooted ROM from the dev section. This would be the best way in my opinion.

[Q] Help KindleFireHD HACKED NEED HELP

Believe a "friend" of mine rooted my kindle and has access to all my accounts and information. I have reset everything and yet I find files still in my kindle. Is that because he has hacked all my accounts (gmail?) How can I delete him for good? I don't want to lose all my stuff but I will if necessary. I'm sure he uses this very site himself even.

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Believe a "friend" of mine rooted my kindle and has access to all my accounts and information. I have reset everything and yet I find files still in my kindle. Is that because he has hacked all my accounts (gmail?) How can I delete him for good? I don't want to lose all my stuff but I will if necessary. I'm sure he uses this very site himself even.
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Don't worry, they shouldn't have access to any of your accounts unless you gave them the password to those accounts. What do you mean when you say there are still files on there? These could just be files created by other apps when you reinstalled them.l, or system apps which save in the "sdcard" area (not an actual SD card, the internal storage.

If I wanted access to all your accounts and I had an identical device the way I would do it would be to make a backup then restore it to my device. This would give me access to everything you do.
But I don't know anyone in willing to waste my device on since now it's useless to me....
Change your passwords check your apps for malware and roll on.
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How do you know he "hacked" your account? Rooting is basically hacking. Has he told you "hahah I have your accounts and im going to find your bank details etc". As MD678685 said he wont be able to hack any of your accounts if he doesn't have the password. If i were to hack your kindle i would do the same thing as mrkhigh. but that only works if your friend has the same kindle version as you. If you are worried change your account passwords and check for suspicious sent mail, spam etc. Hope this helped!

[Q] Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo help

I know nothing about any of this so bare with me guys/gals please. Just need help once and ill remove my account. If any of you feel like im wasting your time then please tell me and ill remove my post. Thankyou and i hope someone will give me an idea of whats going on.
Friends ex girlfriend is remotely accessing his phone from her computer, she can lock him out and write text out of format on the lock screen. She has deleted everything on his phone 8 times in the past hour. The Verizon recovery app has been disabled, we went into the Verizon store and changed EVERYTHING, number, passwords, made sure if she ever called in wanting info she couldn't get it. There is no way she figured out any of the passwords, she doesn't have access to any of his accounts, gmails facebook etc... i thought for sure she was using the recovery app but that's impossible cause no account has been created to access to his phone. Idk guys like i said im not an expert one thing that has me most skeptical she can write whatever she wants, whatever color, on his phone on any spot on the screen. Its completely out of set text formations on the lock screen looks like doodles i guess. Just curious if you guys have have ever heard of anything like this happening before. Thanks and i apologize if this shouldn't be here just on a desperate attempt to figure this out. Verizon is completely stumped they have no idea how she does it, even the main tech guy at the store (idk his credentials) cant figure it out.

From what I've seen so far, Android Device Manager (part of Google's setup) can do remote wipes. as can Motorola ID. I imagine both of these may "automatically setup" when you re-activate the phone. Beyond that, you'd need an app to perform such changes, I'd think.
Also, if he's on a joint-account with his exGF, and if she has access to the account, VZ may be doing this without the store-people knowing it?

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From what I've seen so far, Android Device Manager (part of Google's setup) can do remote wipes. as can Motorola ID. I imagine both of these may "automatically setup" when you re-activate the phone. Beyond that, you'd need an app to perform such changes, I'd think.
Also, if he's on a joint-account with his exGF, and if she has access to the account, VZ may be doing this without the store-people knowing it?
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If it's Android Device Manager, maybe it would be sufficient to just change the Google login password?

Yeah, he changed his Google password right?

schwinn8 said:
From what I've seen so far, Android Device Manager (part of Google's setup) can do remote wipes. as can Motorola ID. I imagine both of these may "automatically setup" when you re-activate the phone. Beyond that, you'd need an app to perform such changes, I'd think.
Also, if he's on a joint-account with his exGF, and if she has access to the account, VZ may be doing this without the store-people knowing it?
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He was on a joint account but upon breakin up with her he took her phone, cancelled it, removed her from the account changed his passwords to facebook and google and everything else. Just for the guy to call in and request info he has to answer 5+ extra security questions before hes allowed any info. But ill check out the ADV maybe thats it. Thankyou

Mantano Sync Issue

Hi all,
I've just rooted my Nook Simple Touch and am running the 1337 ROM. Everything's run smoothly so far, with the exception of one thing: my reader app (Mantano) won't sync with my cloud account.
I've been using Mantano Cloud for a few years now, and it's indispensable to my reading habits because it syncs across all of my devices. As such, switching to another service is not an option; I need to find a way to get this to work with my account.
When I first tried it, the sync made as far as "Processing book metadatas (75%)," but would go no further. I tried deleting the account and resyncing, but then it wouldn't even get that far (instead hanging at the first step, "Downloading changes from cloud"). As an experiment, I tried making a trial account and syncing one book, which worked. Thinking that perhaps I was trying to sync too much at once, I cleaned out my Cloud library (cutting from ~150 books down to ~20 books, and from ~1800 annotations to none). Still the Nook was unable to sync with my account (I gave it a few hours just to be sure that it wasn't simply an impatience issue).
I am wondering if maybe the issue is caused by trying to sync books from the newer version of Mantano I use on my phone (2.5) to the earlier version (2.2.12) that's compatible with Android 2.1, but I'm not sure.
As this is clearly app-specific, I have emailed the developers to ask their advice, but I know that these boards are often a much more valuable resource. Do you guys have any suggestions on what the issue might be, or possible solutions I could try that would allow me to sync my library between these devices?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!

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Hello there, chelce,
First off, thank you for using my/our (it's @yattaro's and mine) 1337 ROM - we hope you're enjoying it!
Now, onto your issue. This is all pure speculation, as I don't and have never used Mantano myself, but I do have an idea of what your problem might be.
What I'm guessing is that the older version of Mantano installed on your Nook for some reason is incompatible with your specific Mantano account because of how it's already hooked up to a mobile device with the latest version of the Mantano app installed. The reason I think this is because of how you guaranteed that the old version of the Mantano app will work properly, albeit with a different account, and because of how I'll bet you didn't connect your phone to the new, temporary account.
To test this theory, first, please cut the Mantana system .apk from /data/app and paste it onto your external sdcard (/sdcard) using either ADB, an FTP server or a root-enabled file explorer. Then, re-install Mantano by tapping on the .apk you just moved from /data/app to /sdcard.
Now, please temporarily disconnect your phone from your Mantano account.
Finally, go through the setup/sign in process of Mantano on your Nook and see if it connects.

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Thanks for your quick reply! I am definitely enjoying the ROM, and will be happy when I can get Mantano working so I can actually start reading on my Nook.
I tried your suggestion, and unfortunately it didn't work. It was a good thought though. I also tried syncing my phone to the trial account that my NST was able to sync to, and then syncing my NST to it again. It worked. It seems to be my specific account, but I'm not sure how to rectify this short of cancelling my account and starting over again (which I would rather not do because it's a paid account).
Any thoughts? Conversely, an update to Android 2.3 would also solve the issue, but I'm not sure what the timeline is on developing for that (and unfortunately I don't know enough to be able to help).
Thanks again - always nice to be able to come to a community for support!

Updated Issue
In the hopes of finding a solution to a problem that is still happening, here is an update to the problem I mentioned in my previous posts:
I decided to bite the bullet and just sync to a different account. It was a minor hassle/expense to set it up, and my Nook was working fine for a week (syncing posed no problems). Then, tonight, I synchronized a file from my phone to the cloud, and when I tried to synchronize my NST to download the file to it, it got stuck on "Processing book metadatas (88%)." Basically, I somehow got stuck in the same dead end as before.
I unsynchronized the file on my phone, but my NST is still getting stuck at 88% during the sync.
I am at a loss for how to proceed. I cleared the cache (both of the app and the device), and had already tried (un/re)installing the last time this happened, to no avail (first the app, then everything after a factory reset, and finally the whole ROM).
Any thoughts or suggestions? Mantano still hasn't gotten back to me, so as of right now I'm stalled.
Thanks!

chelce said:
In the hopes of finding a solution to a problem that is still happening, here is an update to the problem I mentioned in my previous posts:
I decided to bite the bullet and just sync to a different account. It was a minor hassle/expense to set it up, and my Nook was working fine for a week (syncing posed no problems). Then, tonight, I synchronized a file from my phone to the cloud, and when I tried to synchronize my NST to download the file to it, it got stuck on "Processing book metadatas (88%)." Basically, I somehow got stuck in the same dead end as before.
I unsynchronized the file on my phone, but my NST is still getting stuck at 88% during the sync.
I am at a loss for how to proceed. I cleared the cache (both of the app and the device), and had already tried (un/re)installing the last time this happened, to no avail (first the app, then everything after a factory reset, and finally the whole ROM).
Any thoughts or suggestions? Mantano still hasn't gotten back to me, so as of right now I'm stalled.
Thanks!
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Sad to say, I honestly can't imagine exactly what your problem is, nor how to fix it. I bet it's a nug (a nook bug), which is what I call those small (or not so small), inexplicable issues Nook Touches often have that don't seem to have a fix.
I'm very sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.

chelce said:
In the hopes of finding a solution to a problem that is still
Any thoughts or suggestions? Mantano still hasn't gotten back to me, so as of right now I'm stalled.
Thanks!
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Hello Chelce. Did you solve the problem? Did the guys at Mantano answer?
I have found the same problems as you.
I use Mantano PRO 2.2 in a rooted NST and PRO 2.5 on a number of other devices. I sync them all through Mantano Cloud (paid) service.
As long as I do not sync PDFs, there are no problems. But once a PDF creates a "faulty/unsyncable" entry into the highlights/notes DB, the NST will fail at syncing.
A pitty, since Mantano is hands down the best ebook service for academic work, where we"indulge" in extensive annotations, and where we need those notes to be easily stored, catalogued, and shared.

nicvel said:
Hello Chelce. Did you solve the problem? Did the guys at Mantano answer?
I have found the same problems as you.
I use Mantano PRO 2.2 in a rooted NST and PRO 2.5 on a number of other devices. I sync them all through Mantano Cloud (paid) service.
As long as I do not sync PDFs, there are no problems. But once a PDF creates a "faulty/unsyncable" entry into the highlights/notes DB, the NST will fail at syncing.
A pitty, since Mantano is hands down the best ebook service for academic work, where we"indulge" in extensive annotations, and where we need those notes to be easily stored, catalogued, and shared.
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I'm going out on a limb here but I have one more thing for you to try. Similar problems have occurred recently with the Kindle app and have long been a problem with Google Books. User @tshoulihane tried updating the security certificates on the NST (some of which have expired) and that allowed both the Kindle and Google Books apps to connect properly and sync content. The thread is here. All I did was download his file and replace the original cacerts.bks (saved old one just in case). Then reboot.

I will add 'USERtrust' to my updated cacerts.bks - it occurs to me that it isn't just having root certificates expire on the nook that cause problems, some websites will potentially migrate their certification path over time. Not sure I can fit it in before Friday though...