Question:
Is there any way to adjust GPS settings in TE or in some other settings GUI?
In all my time of Android use on the Kaiser, only once has the GPS ever worked which was with l1q1d's .25 kernel (with module update) and Incubus26jc's build.
Google maps/latitude/navigation/places all worked fine on this build but I currently have it set up with the current Sourceforge build and Scoot's/n2rjt's cache kernel. I DO NOT want to change anything EXCEPT the GPS settings.
From what I've gathered the settings should be 9600baud, N, 8, 1.
Thanx for any help in advance...
Wait... WHAT?
IIRC, you don't have to change anything. GPS works for a long time now...
I don't know if it's the phone, something in the kernel or a module error but I never got a lock on any program that uses GPS, not GPS test, facebook, maps/latitude/navigation, or foursquare.
Like I said, it only worked once way back when we were using the .25 kernel with the update. Since then I've not gotten one GPS lock... not one.
I'm using the new cache kernel and all of the current fixes, updates. My GPS always worked with every release. It's very slow when searching for GPS signal but it's working.
I have tried with iGo but not with Google Maps. But I think it could work with Google Maps.
I have changed the Radio ROM several times so it can't be the problem.
I personally think I might have a bad GPS reciever in this phone because I can't remember it ever working.
Ill try and scavenge another one of these Kaisers from work (they were popular amongst the office workers), HardSPL it and install the build I'm using on it, just to see if it works. Ill report back later...
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Okay, got another Kaiser and tested GPS on it before wiping/unlocking/hardspl-ing it and it worked fine. Found 5 sattelites and locked on within seconds using GPS test under winmo.
Unlock/security unlock/hardspl/kernel install/install android and update/use backup from original phone (2.2.2 with RIL and cache update) and problem followed. GPS test only found 3 sattelites at most and never locked on for the 10-15 minutes I had it up.
IMHO, I have a software comm port issue. wether it needs a different speed or a different setting in android I can't tell. I looked over initrd and can't seem to find any port settings.
I can tell you that the GPS did work with Krazy Killa's kernel, but it was highly unstable compared to the newest one from Scoot/l1q1d/n2rjt.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated...
I got a idea... flash winmo and test it
As stated in post #6, the Kaiser was stock when I tested the GPS, meaning winmo 6.0 was running before flashing anything to the phone. GPS tested fine under winmo, aquiring signal and lock in about 10 seconds using GPS Test for winmo (2008 version).
Im just looking for where the actual hard settings would be in either /system or in modules added. I have done some GPS work in the past (omnitech hacking and modding, changing OS, modding settings, etc.), so I have no fear of breaking something if it doesn't work anyway.
PoXFreak said:
As stated in post #6, the Kaiser was stock when I tested the GPS, meaning winmo 6.0 was running before flashing anything to the phone. GPS tested fine under winmo, aquiring signal and lock in about 10 seconds using GPS Test for winmo (2008 version).
Im just looking for where the actual hard settings would be in either /system or in modules added. I have done some GPS work in the past (omnitech hacking and modding, changing OS, modding settings, etc.), so I have no fear of breaking something if it doesn't work anyway.
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Somewhere on the winmo settings, you'll find the GPS port, baud etc.
You can ask in ther kernel threads how this is set...
Thats what I was asking about...
Could the kernel (mtdblock0) be mounted under terminal emulator, be edited and still work, or is this a crapshoot?
I have all the settings for the "correct" GPS port number, Xbit, BPP, basically all of it.
I remeber reading somewhere that Android is looking for 38.4bps. This is not correct as the Kaiser uses 9.6bps, or 9600 bits data rate.
If this is incorrect, data from the satellite(s) will be misinterpeted and give incorrect readings. The satellites don't care what you recieve, it's how the data is handled after the phone gets it.
The way I learned all of this is by cracking a "nk.bin" file open for the Omnitech GPS back in 2008 and creating a custom bootloader that allowed use of one of 3 different GPS programs to run on one unit. Destinator, iGo and TomTom all ran well of this one GPS because I was able to get the GPS settings right.
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Thats what I was asking about...
Could the kernel (mtdblock0) be mounted under terminal emulator, be edited and still work, or is this a crapshoot?
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IIRC, mtdblock0 is the WHOLE nand memory. So you cannot mount it, only mtdblock0p1, mtdblock0p2 etc etc. But yes, you can mount /system for writing with mount -o remount,rw /system
I have all the settings for the "correct" GPS port number, Xbit, BPP, basically all of it.
I remeber reading somewhere that Android is looking for 38.4bps. This is not correct as the Kaiser uses 9.6bps, or 9600 bits data rate.
If this is incorrect, data from the satellite(s) will be misinterpeted and give incorrect readings. The satellites don't care what you recieve, it's how the data is handled after the phone gets it.
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Perhaps liquid or scooter or somebody else will see this and point you in the right directions.
The way I learned all of this is by cracking a "nk.bin" file open for the Omnitech GPS back in 2008 and creating a custom bootloader that allowed use of one of 3 different GPS programs to run on one unit. Destinator, iGo and TomTom all ran well of this one GPS because I was able to get the GPS settings right.
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Posted a question to the main android forum and have 272 views so far.
Sorry, forgot "mtdblock0" was NAND, pt1/2/3/4 is the partitions. Will try mounting and see if I can find anything. I've checked /system/libs/*.* ("all" for non-DOS users) and can't find anything pertaining to the GPS. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place.
/system/lib/libgps.so ???? <-----
Apparently I need to acces the kernel directly in order to change any values within the base GPS driver. I extracted OS (kernel) with NBH tool and gave it a once over.
I'll dig in later as myPITA girlfriend wants to go putz around today...pfft.
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I screwed my Kaiser gps by trying to use map4pda which automatically changed the port in settings for gps. What can I do? Gps not working anymore,even after putting back the old settings and doing softresets,even took out the battery for a while
Not a single program can find my inbuilt gps now
I do not want to do a hard reset,I have tooo many progs and no backup
Please help
I am afraid to use any other gps program(even after a hard reset) because this could ruin my gps settings
I read somewhere that gps applet is misconfigured(from factory)..and even a slight modification to it,could lead to my gps not functioning till a hard-reset.
Also it's not normal that a program can modify the gps'settings by itself
I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.
Lidberg said:
I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.
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Thank you for the info..
Are you sure this is the only gps program that messes up the gps?
Did you test Igo,GpsTuner,GpsGate,Pathaway professional,GeoScout??
But Gloposis,BeeLine gps??
Any other incompatibilities?
Thx
I haven't tested all of those. Here's what I have on my phone right now:
FFF (finger friendly friends)
Google Maps
Live Search
GPS test
GPS Utilities
GPS viewer
GPSinfo
Navigator II
TomTom 6
TrackMe
Virtual Earth
VisualGPSce
I think the other ones will be safe. Map4PDA is the only one I've heard of that kills the Kaiser GPS.
A hard reset is your only option and shouldnt be a nightmare.
Work out what apps you want, check you have the cabs etc, sync your device with your pc and away you go.
I keep all my favourite apps cabs on my storage card so that I could hard reset even if away from my laptop (but I do have an exchange server so setting up sync remotely is also easy).
Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..
emariu said:
Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..
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I too noticed that using different GPS software tends to screw up something on my Tilt. I've used Google Maps and MS Live Search and these tend to screw things up to the point that the GPS is useless. I also have Copilot Live 7 installed and this program has the ability to reset the GPS on my device.
For those not familiar with Copilot, when you go to the Settings panel in Copilot and choose Reset GPS, it asks you to enter a city within 100 miles of your current location in order to reset your GPS properly. If someone could develop an app to replicate this... This would be a great standalone app for all Tilt & variant owners.
But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..
what about a backup? make a backup before you install an app that you don't know if it works or not, install/run app, if all is good, no worries. if all is bad, restore from backup.
the Tilt ROM comes with sprite backup and htc backup is flating around this forum...
emariu said:
But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..
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Not sure how this works, but I've been able to get my GPS working again every time with this feature.
If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.
In the external GPS settings programs tab set to 4800, in the hardware tab gps hardware port select none, baud rate should be at 4800. In te access tab tick manage gps automatically.
Load the TomTom app that comes with the Kaiser or download it from here. go to config on the gps settings within TomTom and it will right itself
Make a backup of the registry and put is back in this situations, easy and fast when you try different programs.
Btw Igo works fine also Nusa maps (Indonesia), Map King pro and Papa Go..
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If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.
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That's not true in every circumstance. Like the OP, I installed Map4PDA. When you run the program, it searches for the GPS (you can't specify what COM port to use manually) and in my case, hangs on COM3 for whatever reason. I let it sit for over an hour and ended up doing a soft reset because the program was unresponsive.
After that, my GPS would not work in ANY program that it worked in previously. I checked and double-checked my settings to no avail. I posted here and on MoDaCo and got some good advice but in the end, only a hard reset fixed it. Yes, the GPS light would blink but my Tilt would run very, very slowly and would never get a fix. That QuickGPS program would error out every time I ran it. I don't know what Map4PDA did, but it hosed my GPS and it looks like the OP got bit too.
Since my last hard reset, I have installed tons of GPS enabled programs and they all work just fine. I also have never run QuickGPS and I can get a fix within 10 seconds in any program.
I know it's not logical, but that is what worked for me.
EDIT: I don't advocate the spreading of paid for s/w, but I would be curious to see if your CoPilot program would successfully reset the OP's GPS.
If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...
emariu said:
If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...
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COM4, 4800 baud
this com 4 is a program port,it's not the harware gps (native) port..
can we find out which port number is the default(hardware)?
But thnks anyway for the answers
COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.
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COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.
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I use GpsGate anyway,so using multiple gps programs at once isn't a problem for me,BUT because I cannot use hardware port, we are stucked with 4800 baudrate,which is a limitation only with soft multiplexer(built in the OS)
I see a lot of people with GPS problems these days & most of them have to do with not getting a fast enough satelite fix. There are several things you can & should do to enhance you Kaiser & it's GPS capabilities.
Firstly, use HTC's QuickGPS. Your device has to locate, communicate with & track numerous navigation satelites to get a fix that can be used by your navigation software of choice. Typically your device will need this information from 3 - 5 satelites, however there can be as many as 14. Each Satelite has Almanac information, this information contains suck as the current location, speed & Orbitital Patterns. This is where QuickGPS comes in. QuickGPS downloads this almanc information from servers & helps to guide your device the most appropriate satelites in your area. downloading the QuickGPS data at least once a week is key to maintaining quick satelite locks with your device.
Second, I see a lot of people using the HCT GPS Tool from the Polaris. WHY? Sure it can help to jump start your GPS, but there are other more functional programs out there that accomplish the same thing & much more.
Enter GPSGate! GPSGate is a light weight GPS utility that can be installed on a storage card & I could not live without. It is easy to use, it configures itself, it WILL jumpstart your GPS & allows you to do some amazing things otherwise impossible. GPSGate is a semi-commercial software developed by Franson. A trial version is free to download & the only difference between the free & the pay version is that the pay version allows you to Connect to GpsGate Server or GpsGate.com for sharing or logging over the Internet. GPSGate will help speed things up for you & also do many other things. Whenever you launch GPSGate, you GPS chip is immediately initialized & goes to work. Starting GPSGate before your navigation software or selecting the auto-start function gets your device working on connecting to the satelites NOW!
Ever tried running TomTom & Live Search at the same time? Usually it won't work & sometimes will freeze your device. Not when you use GPSGate. GPSGate will not only start your GPS faster, but it will also let you share the Kaiser GPS among several applications all at once.
GPSGate will let you use external GPS devices with your Kaiser & it will also allow you to use your Kaiser as a GPS receiver for other devices such as laptops, over A/S or Bluetooth connections. In fact, you can share the Kaiser's GPS over a network, ActiveSync, Bluetooth or HTTP. It will also allow you to Multiplex and split NMEA streams. GPSGate will communicate fast & flawlessly with a simultaneous multitude of programs. It will also allow you to start & stop your GPS Session on the fly.
I use TomTom, but I frequently use Live Search at the same time because POI's are always changing & new ones are added. Live Search is much better @ finding New things like restraunts & allows me to add them into my contacts & then select them thru TomTom all without having to start & stop each program allowing me to keep my focus on the road where it belongs.
Just download & install the cab, launch the program, follow the 2-steps on the screen & you're done.
Most of the important functionality is intact without licensing, (I think everything except the server based tracking & logging)
Overview:
Share your position online using GpsGate.com
Track your friends on a map, see a remote person in Google Earth and more...
Connecting Google Earth to GpsGate!
Display your GPS position in Google Earth.
Connecting Google Maps to GpsGate!
Display your GPS position in Google Maps.
Sharing GPS data over a network and between computers
How to share GPS data using TCP/IP, UDP, Bluetooth or COM ports.
NMEA Multiplexer - combine multiple inputs
How to merge and split several NMEA channels.
Run GpsGate as a Service
How to set up GpsGate to run as a NT service.
How to run multiple instances of GpsGate, close input when no output is used, block writing and reading, and more...
NO, I do NOT work for or endorse Franson! I just really find this program helpful & very useful.
GPSGate: http://rapidshare.com/files/95732296/GPSGate.rar
QuickGPS: http://rapidshare.com/files/69959229/HTC_QuickGPS.CAB
spent this whole time talking about GPSGATE but dont even post a way to find more info or even get it......
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
spent this whole time talking about GPSGATE but dont even post a way to find more info or even get it......
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LOL are you serious....thanks I needed this
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=GPSgate&btnG=Google+Search
Not that hard to find.
Google is your friend
I don't understand why this is useful. The GPS is already sharable in the Kaiser. I've run multiple GPS apps at the same time with no problems. The only use for GPS gate that I can see is uploading your position to their server.
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I don't understand why this is useful. The GPS is already sharable in the Kaiser. I've run multiple GPS apps at the same time with no problems. The only use for GPS gate that I can see is uploading your position to their server.
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If you use iGuidance 4 and are using a 6.1 rom, GPSGate is not only useful, it is required in order for your map to update. Others have reported that GPSPROXY will also work, and it is free.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I have been playing with 6.1 ROMS for two weeks and was about to give up because I could not get GPS to work properly (yes I tried everything that was recommended!) I was about to give up and revert back to a 6 ROM... and like a pheonix from the ashes I saw your post. Franson GpsGate did the trick. My GPS is working better than ever, heck my phone is working better than ever, many thanks to Sleuth and to you for fixing that last very frustrating and important glitch.
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If you use iGuidance 4 and are using a 6.1 rom, GPSGate is not only useful, it is required in order for your map to update. Others have reported that GPSPROXY will also work, and it is free.
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Then I'm just lucky I guess. I'm running 6.1 and I have Beeline GPS, TomTom and Live Search all running just fine. No GPS Gate or GPSProxy loaded.
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Then I'm just lucky I guess. I'm running 6.1 and I have Beeline GPS, TomTom and Live Search all running just fine. No GPS Gate or GPSProxy loaded.
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Yes you are lucky. Many Tilt users are, but for the unfortunate, for what ever reason, we have GPS issues and this solved it at least for me. But I am curious... if you GPS is operating so wonderfully... why are you in this thread?
the same reason I am in here probably, to see what everyone is talking about and to see what kinds of GPS issues are out there that people are having. I know mine is working just fine but still checking out what is going on in case I run in to issues or see someone with issues that I might be able to help out or point them to this thread.
I read every GPS thread. I'm always on the look out for some way to disable Static Navigation. So far, no luck.
My original post in this thread was to ask what does this software give me that I don't already have. The stock GPS is intended to be sharable. If it does work like it's supposed then no proxy software should be necessary.
GPS quality varies widely from one Tilt to the next...
I have 2 Tilts and I can tell you one of them gets almost instant GPS lock while the other one struggles to ever get a lock.
I'm awaiting a second warranty replacement from at&t as the first one they sent has crappy GPS also. I've already warned them that they will continue shipping me Tilts under warranty until I get a replacement that works as well as my 2nd Tilt does.
One thing I like about GPS Gate is the Tray Icon. It would be better if the tap & hold menu had an option to toggle the GPS on/off.
It is nice that you can also use it to provide GPS feed to your laptop if you have such a need.
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I read every GPS thread. I'm always on the look out for some way to disable Static Navigation. So far, no luck.
My original post in this thread was to ask what does this software give me that I don't already have. The stock GPS is intended to be sharable. If it does work like it's supposed then no proxy software should be necessary.
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More than anything I was bored & wanted to write (Got my replacement & had time to kill while Sec. Unlocking, Flashing, etc.), lol.
Really I'd see a lot of Noobies complaining about not being able to use multiple proggies & having issues giving gps a quick jump. This post was really just kinda intended for the noobie that doesn't have the skill or patience to set up multiple port connections for the GPS. With GPSGate they don't have to. It all wil run thru the same V-port without them having to do any changes manually. I find that using GPSGate there is NO DELAY in the new application receiving the GPS data. Before GPSGate, every time I switched programs my device would hang for a bit. I also noticed a lot of people using or including HTC GPS Tools in roms for a jump start of the GPS device, & I figured why not something more useful.
+ I know that while a lot of us know about these programs, not many new guys do & when I'm out & about, occasionally I like to use my laptop W/ Streets & trips because all my customer routes are in there. This way I can use it for navigation & construction updates on long drive days. Of course I know not everyone has a nerd mobile like my truck with a PPC & Laptop Mount cradle, lol...but you never know.
Do these proxies keep the GPS receiver running all the time? what does that do to battery life?
It does what you TELL IT to do. You can start or stop the GPS on the fly. OF COURSE if you leave the GPS running it will drain the battery faster. But it only keeps it on for as long as you keep it active. Using the proxy itself will not change the discharge rate of your battery to any noticable degree.
Search for Franson GPSGate. You can read your heart out about it.
What should you put the baud rate to?
I mean I would assume higher means better but since my kaiser takes 10 minutes to get a lock I haven't really bothered doing any proper comparisons.
In any case all I get for the ten-fifteen minutes I've had this running is "GPS data but no position, running ok"
(Pretty much like GPS Tool, it runs and shows a lot of sattelites but never gets a lock. It does once in a while but it seldom and it'll always take ~10 minutes)
I have run quick gps.
This is with a cooked rom and a new radio though.
With my stock rom/radio I got a lock within 2-3 minutes after starting tomtom.
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Really I'd see a lot of Noobies complaining about not being able to use multiple proggies & having issues giving gps a quick jump. This post was really just kinda intended for the noobie that doesn't have the skill or patience to set up multiple port connections for the GPS. With GPSGate they don't have to. It all wil run thru the same V-port without them having to do any changes manually. I find that using GPSGate there is NO DELAY in the new application receiving the GPS data. Before GPSGate, every time I switched programs my device would hang for a bit. I also noticed a lot of people using or including HTC GPS Tools in roms for a jump start of the GPS device, & I figured why not something more useful.
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GSLEON3,
Although my GPS works within much problems or 3rd party software so far, I do appreciate your post on this as it clearly is helpful at his point of the ROM development.
I too am having troubles with my GPS. I have only had my tilt for a week or so but I can't seem to get the GPS to work well enough to be truly useful.
I have GPS Gate installed and it sometimes gets a lock and sometimes it doesn't. I have tried both TomTom 6 and iNav v3 and v4 with and without GPS Gate. I can generally get a lock sitting still and sometimes I can get a lock moving but anytime I try to use the navigation to go anywhere it either looses its lock within 10 minutes OR it only is able to track 1-3 satellites and thus HORRIBLY inaccurate showing me tracking between 50 and 500 yards from my actual location (if there are side roads or streets it almost never has me on the correct road). I have tried changing the position of the device to get better reception with no change.
I have also tried several different ROMS with different radios with no change. Are there some settings in GPS gate that I need to change to get better performance or do I have a defective unit? Any help would be appreciated.
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More than anything I was bored & wanted to write (Got my replacement & had time to kill while Sec. Unlocking, Flashing, etc.), lol.
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I'm glad you were bored to write this. I, for one, thinks its a good source of info and a possible set of solutions for GPS issues. I dont think you can have too much possible solutions, so thanks for posting this up!
thanks much for taking time to post valuable information. i for one am no noob to windows mobile, but am too GPS. so, i definitely am willing to check into anything that could possibly boost performance of any component. thanks again and it does help alot with the new tool. one question i have is about the virtual port driver. the message comes up and ask me to soft reset for the virtual port driver to be installed, so i do. when i run the tool again it does the same thing, to me, indicating the driver didnt install. i go into advanced options and check the status and it says my driver memory is low, please soft reset. any ideas and thanks again.
GPS working Better at higher baud
I have been experimenting with changing the settings for my GPS in GPSGate. I posted earlier that I was having trouble getting it to work reliably and that I would frequently loose lock and not be able to get it back.
Here is what I have found works best so far:
Radio: 1.64.08.21
COM: 4
BAUD: 57600
Emulating: COM 1
TomTom: COM 1 at 57600
I really don't know why this works better but I have been able to consistently HOLD a lock once I get one. I still have trouble with it sometimes taking a VERY long time acquire a lock but once I have one it is working well. I will post if I find anything that works better.
If anyone has insight on this or finds any better settings please post.
I've tried my gps in a load of places and the closest i've got my location to is 1500 m.....
I've done it alongside my friends N95 and he pretty much instantly got our location spot on with his google maps app, but my diamond couldnt get it.... left it for about 5 minutes before giving up!
Any help would be ace
Did you load the Almanach Data before?
e.g. Did you ever started QuickGPS before?
Have you clicked on the menu tab in google maps and clicked on the use gps button.
I havn't started quickGPS before, but yes, i did tick the use GPS button. It said searching for satelites in a small blue box at the top of the screen and then that disappeared.
I've never got a fixed location off of it letalone trying it at home, work, town, everywhere
Try the quick gps application first,it will help by getting the latest satelite information.
What version rom are you using.
Errrm, bit of a noob to the whole winmo scene, diamond is my first and i ony got that about a week ago....
How do you find out the rom version?
Also, another seperate question... is it worth updating ROM? I've been to the other forum and heard names like Bepe and stuff, but it doesnt mean anything...
boch501 said:
How do you find out the rom version?
Also, another seperate question... is it worth updating ROM?
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Start > Settings > System tab > Device Information. Your ROM version is in there. If you have 1.35 or 1.37, then YES it is definitely worth updating. Whether you use a stock ROM or a cooked rom (like Bepe) is up to you.
I'm following this thread because I've had similar problems with GPS, even though I've already followed every advice I found when searching. It's not a high priority for me though. Anyway, I've played with both the Windows and Google GPS settings, every combination thereof, and everything else I can think of, but no real luck. At ONE point it was working, but then I flashed another ROM and never got it going again.
i got a ROM: 1.37.405.1
Radio 1.00.25.03
which means????
I had it working using the same ROM/radio versions as yours, AND I JUST GOT IT WORKING AGAIN! I know I tried this unsuccessfully since flashing 1.93, but this time it worked...
Leave the Windows GPS settings at default. In Google Maps GPS settings, set it manually to COM4 and 19200. Go outside, and tap Use GPS. It will say "initializing" for a while (give it time), and get a fix. After the first time it's slightly faster, but still seems pretty damn slow.
thanks, will try those settings tomorrow when it's slightly less cold, dark and rainy outside
cheers
Since I bought my Diamond, last week, I haven't been able to get a single fix.
Even worse, although my GPS is detected as running by every GPS soft, there is only one sattelit bar active at a time.
(about 10 satelits are being sensed, but only one is actually sending datas to my device, every time...)
I've never expericenced such problems with my preivous triny. There were always at least 3 or more bars moving up and down at a time, and at the end I could get some fix.
- either it is a hardware problem and I got a crap GPS chipset...
- or it is a setting problem with my ROM.
By the way, in the External GPS settings screen, I have strange infos:
Port GPS: com4 which is normal, GPS Material Port: None!!
baud rate: 4800 (which I think is very low, but I heard everybody has got the same)
What's wrong with my device?
Seems to be lots of posts on this issue...a nice simple one is to flash a new radio.....if that doesn't work do a Hard Reset (to be sure!) and restore to minimum and see if it runs.....then move on from there....
I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry
Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...
riri22 said:
Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...
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....I'm about to revert back to the 07 radio (from 08) as it did not give me the same sat pickup as 07....you can also try the HTC GPS Tool and run a COLD start...I understand this wipes the data and restarts as advised previously...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416334
...lot of other goodies here
The Doctor said:
I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry
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I have a similar problem from time to time.A lot of data received from 10-12 satellites but a fix only after a long long time. In comparison with the Garmin Gps I have the sensitivity of the Diamond GPS receiver is good, but the algoritm is not. Diamond radio is .05
I have the same problem if i delete the log file and update with quick GPS.
It seems that the algorithm in the radio sometimes is not able to converge easily to a fix.
My tomtom was working just Excellent on my diamond, than i did a hard reset and no gps, 1 bar for over 1 hour, so reflashed the same rom again 1.93.405 still same problem, so flashed 1.93.401 and bingo it works again. after a nother hard reset 1.93 401 rom gps wont work angin, this time the 1.93 405 rom fixed it. ( all WWE roms)
no idea why this happend.. when the diamond gps works its excellent (better than most tomtom units) but thants only when it works.
as the gps feature is very importent to me, i now have a back up bluetooth gps incase inbuilt gps fails.
and with out quick gps i find its aloms impossible to get a lock.
I only hope HTC fic this issue if not this will have been my first and last HTC product.
Any tips welcomed
Hi mates,
First of all thanks for the link and the goodies, in fact I had already found some datas since many Diamond users seem to have similiar problems with their device.
I agree this is obviously a mistake of HTC to have put a defectuous part in their phone.
1) My problem even went worse yesterday after I flashed the last HK WWE ROM: my GPS wasn't even sensed by the softs!
No NMEA datas blabla...
2)
many hard reset and reflash couldn't fix the problem. I was about to give up when i found info about that HTC GPS TOOL I had never heard about.
After using it for quite a while, at least my GPS was finally sensed and 'some' datas received, though it wasn't enough to get a proper satelit bar, not to mention a fix...
3)
So now I'm back to the same point: no fix or proper reception available, although I'm already quite happy that my GPS is detected again!
3)
I got back to the same stock radio, x.x.5 but no matter which one I use, I can't see when I'm going to have a a fix with that whimsical GPS!
SOLVED!!!
I finally found a solution to wake up my sleeping (beauty) GPS.
The most helpful infos were in that post below, but I did pick other datas here and there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
The funniest thing is that this problem looks like a hardware one, but in fact it's all software related. A problem of configuration, due to the A-GPS function probably.
From what I understand, if you use A-GPS (I mean if you really have access to this special service through your phone operator) everything is fine.
If you don't, then you may get into big troubles like I and many others did...
1) make sure A-GPS function is desactivated (nothing to do with the Quick GPS function)
2)
... just follow the instructions provided by the Oijkn on the link above.
3)
delete as well the file(s) GPSlogs.txt in the windows directory
4)
soft reset
5)
enjoy a very efficient GPS
Hello ! (I am french)
I have a HTC Diamond P3700 and Tomtom Navigator 7.910 + western Europe 1GB map.
This map map is not recognized ? How repair ? Thanks
- admins please make this a sticky
Hi y`all
Some people like myself have very many problems with the GPS.
After hours of searching I managed to find out the cause I have here a special patch for it.
I hope you all like it.
Install Instructions:
Second download the atachement from bellow.
install it on your device then start the program.
click fix it.
press menu and then reboot thats it !
and have fun
Greats Antonius
EDIT: Added the new program
It is working HTC Touch pro/HTC Touch pro 2 (This is tested)
UPDATE NEW VERSION ADDED
- fixed performence issue`s
- fixed some registry settings
- fixed phone responding strange.
reserved for me.
What settings does this program change?
I have no GPS issues.
it will optimize some register value`s.
it is for people that has problems and people that want a quick qps fixs.
I'll give it a run and let you know if my fix times improve.
much apreaciated
p.s. moderator please make this one sticky
On first run, all settings said they were wrong, I clicked "fix it" and all settings were changed except for #4..?
I won't nbe able to test the performance until I leave work in a couple of hours, but was wondering why the one setting stayed incorrect?
The team will put it on the list of possible bugs.
we will check it as soon as possible
i just installed and ran the program and i this is what is said
On first run, all settings said they were wrong, I clicked "fix it" and all settings were changed except for #4
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i just installed and ran the program and i this is what is said
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this is an know issue we are working on it
Not bashing your program at all, but i honestly cant tell a difference, i still have a really hard time getting GPS to work on my touch pro
Is the .cab uninstallable? I mean, if I uninstall it, will it revert GPS settings to original? If not, can you provide a .cab for that, or tell us what to change in registry to revert settings? I'm asking because my GPS works fine, but I want to check is it even better with this patch. One more thing, can you tell me what were the exact results during tests regarding GPS lag - is this patch fixing the problem? GPS lag is inaccurate reading of the current position on the road - without the patch we usually get two seconds of lag behind the real position.
The main problem with the GPS is radio version. Registry settings make only a small difference. All radios barring the two new 1.14.xx.xx versions have an issue where if you restart the device, sometimes the GPS won't work. It will fix one or two satellites but never achieve lock, even after many minutes (this occurs only sometimes...if it works first time, try restarting the device a few times and attempting again). The 1.14 radios seem to work fine first go for me (with the exception being TomTom, which from what I've read has a known issue initializing the GPS...if you initialize it with another program first it will work fine, and on most attempts will even work fine with TomTom as the first program). While they have some other minor issues, the 1.14 radios are generally regarded as very good (personally for me .25.35 is a battery eater (uses about 10% overnight as opposed to 1-2% on .25.05) while .25.05 has issues when at very low reception where it thinks it is still connected but cannot actually manage to transfer data). I recommend anyone having issues with the GPS try either of these two radios before they bother doing anything else...
P.S. I might just add that it would seem that the GPS lag is largely software related...I'm told TomTom for iPhone (which has a very reliable GPS) also suffers from a noticable lag whereas I know their standalone devices don't. This would also explain persistent comments from people that some programs display less lag than others.
caeci11ius said:
The main problem with the GPS is radio version. Registry settings make only a small difference. All radios barring the two new 1.14.xx.xx versions have an issue where if you restart the device, sometimes the GPS won't work. It will fix one or two satellites but never achieve lock, even after many minutes (this occurs only sometimes...if it works first time, try restarting the device a few times and attempting again). The 1.14 radios seem to work fine first go for me (with the exception being TomTom, which from what I've read has a known issue initializing the GPS...if you initialize it with another program first it will work fine, and on most attempts will even work fine with TomTom as the first program). While they have some other minor issues, the 1.14 radios are generally regarded as very good (personally for me .25.35 is a battery eater (uses about 10% overnight as opposed to 1-2% on .25.05) while .25.05 has issues when at very low reception where it thinks it is still connected but cannot actually manage to transfer data). I recommend anyone having issues with the GPS try either of these two radios before they bother doing anything else...
P.S. I might just add that it would seem that the GPS lag is largely software related...I'm told TomTom for iPhone (which has a very reliable GPS) also suffers from a noticable lag whereas I know their standalone devices don't. This would also explain persistent comments from people that some programs display less lag than others.
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there is a special radio rom version been cooked by our team right know.
we hope that it will give it a boost to the gps system.
new version is uploaded
what exactly does this do?
What registry changes does it make?
this should be in software section, and there are already many threads out there discussing GPS issues.
if your having trouble with GPS are you using aGPS? enabling it will get u a lock in under 30 seconds.
See FF Nokia aGPS Settings in my signature.
well i now got to hard reset , my phone won't startup anymore
I did not notice an improvement, however I have not installed your fixed version.
guys,
sorry that some of you must hard reset your device.
but we fixed that in version 1.1
and fone_fanatic we dont have any problem any more with the gps.
we want to help the comunitie as a company!
greats antonius
With ENERGY ROM and 1.14.25.35 radio, I get GPS lock in 10-30 seconds on first use of the day and within 5-10 seconds in subsequent uses. Just note, that after hard reset or just new flash of ROM, the GPS lock may take more than 2 minutes, as it has to download all ephimeris data.