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Played with Rev @ VZW today. Soo Slow

First thing I noticed is that the phone is sooooo slooooow. It was unbearable. I don't know if there was something wrong with the demo model, because they only had one, but it was almost unusable. Flipping between homescreens would often get stuck halfway for almost two seconds, then continue the flip. Flipping through the applications menu did the same. Occasionally it would launch the app I started the swipe on because it didn't register the swipe gesture.
I noticed the same thing about the Charge, but not the Thunderbolt. Maybe it's just software they have installed at the store?

Definitely something wrong with that demo model; homescreen lag is normal on the Charge, but I noticed the Revo was FAR smoother than the TB and Charge and the touchscreen was miles ahead of the other two in terms of responsiveness.

I have the Revo, and there is very little lag.. once and a blue moon i have it.. It is a great device. I am not a big fan of the home, so i am using adw ex and this phone is GREAT!

My Rev lags when I end a phone call. It takes about 5 seconds to exit the dialer. This phone also has issues with the Real Player App. It won't let you stream online videos while using Real Player. It has an error message that says null.
It also seems to take forever to charge. When I had the Thunderbolt, it seemed to recharge 4x as fast. I know the Thunderbolt had horrible battery life, but that was pretty much solved with a custom rom.
The 2 best things I found about this phone are Netflix and the HDMI mirroring. But without any custom roms, I regret my decision to trade in the Thunderbolt within 14 days and get the LG Revolution.

I agree a problem with demo model. I am looking to buy it soon. I have been in two verizon stores a few times to play with this phone and the competition (tb, charge). I've tried every function I can and I do see any problems yet. Homescreen, apps drawer, and swype was no lag at all.

sadly, the demo model at my local vzw was also not a good representation of the phone. it had serious touch responsiveness issues. almost swayed me to get the charge. i ended up buying the phone because the majority of reviewers from androidforums didn't have the same issue. i do experience slight lag sometimes when drawing my unlock pattern after not using the phone for awhile, but other than that little hiccup, couldn't be happier.

just got a revolution for the wife, i see no problems with any lag so far

Definitely sounds like a unique case, the Revo that I played with in the VZW store was way snappier than my charge, which has tempted me to possibly switch. Trying to figure out whether I should hold out as dev support is picking up on the Charge(to make it function quicker) or just switch to the LG.

I had two different Charges in two weeks - and now have the Rev. the Rev has better touchscreen, as others have said, and I don't see any lag at all. The interface on the Rev is so, so, so, much better than the Charge. For once, I, personally, am not overly tempted to use a different launcher. I like the widgets the few custom widgets they have, though I can't wait to de-Bing it.

I def like my revo now bing has been booted and crapware gone the ui is kinda growing on me
Sent from my Bing free Revolution

Common Issues with Z3C

Please mention all the common issues found in this device (both Hardware and Software level)
So far I have gathered one issue mainly
- The USB/SD Card flap gets loosen or does not properly close.

Some units may have excessive gap between the glass and the frame, either top or bottom.

in_core said:
- The USB/SD Card flap gets loosen or does not properly close.
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Because of this mine is on the way back to Vodafone [emoji22]

Mine has a dead pixel. But these arent common issues unless a lot of people complain about them tbh.

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Mine has a dead pixel. But these arent common issues unless a lot of people complain about them tbh.
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Was the dead pixel noticeable from the very first day?

Ive got two things where im not sure if that are real Problems or just a question of settings.
First one is that voice from the other part is not really loud, even on the highest setting, during a phone call.
The other one is the battery time. I dont get such high results like 2 days from the tests on different websites. I only got one day with moderate usage.

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Was the dead pixel noticeable from the very first day?
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No second day, first day I probably didnt notice. Nor do I now to be honest... was hesitating about sending it back but ehh... its so much hassle and like I said I can hardly tell its dead.

I have returned mine to o2 within the initial cooling off period, there's too many problems to risk sorry. I loved the spec and design too

Did you experience any problems or did you just bottle it? I've had mine for a week or so with no problems at all.

qbert456 said:
I have returned mine to o2 within the initial cooling off period, there's too many problems to risk sorry. I loved the spec and design too
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I'd assume that more than 90% of units have no major issues. The misleading thing is that, in communities like these, people with faulty units are far more represented than people who are satisfied.

Honestly, I didn't really use it,it kept all the plastic films on etc. It's not that I'm not going to get one if it proves reliable more that I'm quite unlucky with phones generally!
I will keep looking in here tho and will likely getting a red/orange one again in a few weeks....

qbert456 said:
Honestly, I didn't really use it,it kept all the plastic films on etc. It's not that I'm not going to get one if it proves reliable more that I'm quite unlucky with phones generally!
I will keep looking in here tho and will likely getting a red/orange one again in a few weeks....
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I suggest you just get a silicone cover or something, to protect it. A wrist lanyard also helps a lot. And to increase your chance of getting a Z3C from a more recent production batch, you can keep an eye on a web shop and order a Z3C after the stock runs out and is restocked.

Camera Button
Is the Z3c hardware camera button designed to require a fairly lengthy press to activate? I'm guessing that maybe it's a design built in to perhaps avoid accidental pocket presses, but I'm not sure.
Just a quick tap does not activate it on mine, but it works fine with a slightly longer press.

Poojo said:
Is the Z3c hardware camera button designed to require a fairly lengthy press to activate? I'm guessing that maybe it's a design built in to perhaps avoid accidental pocket presses, but I'm not sure.
Just a quick tap does not activate it on mine, but it works fine with a slightly longer press.
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Mine too, also there seems to be a 2-step press for it, as on a regular camera (half hold down to focus). Half pressing doesn't start it.
Have had to mess with settings to turn off the quick launch which was set to launch and capture as I have so many pics of either a finger or blackness!
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impact1991 said:
Ive got two things where im not sure if that are real Problems or just a question of settings.
First one is that voice from the other part is not really loud, even on the highest setting, during a phone call.
The other one is the battery time. I dont get such high results like 2 days from the tests on different websites. I only got one day with moderate usage.
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On mine the sound is pretty loud through the mic, so much so that I thought the loudspeaker was on! Conversely though the actual loudspeaker doesn't seem that loud! Go figure!
For the battery I think you would only get 2 days with the Stamina settings active. I manage to get down to about 25% on a full day of regular usage (in office etc). The Stamina / Ultra stamina modes seem to just disable pretty much everything on the phone. OK if you need to keep it powered on but no good for regular usage. I've ended up turning stamina mode on and then re-enabling Wifi, seems to improve life quite a bit for the times I have been hammering it!

degraaff said:
I'd assume that more than 90% of units have no major issues. The misleading thing is that, in communities like these, people with faulty units are far more represented than people who are satisfied.
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Always been the case since the Treo days, lol. People will look and see all these problems, but they are random people, that really only for the most part show up here to resolve "issues". While it is a great thing for folks looking for corrections, it does appear bad on the surface if you don't really understand the dynamic at play on boards like these.
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Poojo said:
Is the Z3c hardware camera button designed to require a fairly lengthy press to activate? I'm guessing that maybe it's a design built in to perhaps avoid accidental pocket presses, but I'm not sure.
Just a quick tap does not activate it on mine, but it works fine with a slightly longer press.
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Yes. Your button is behaving normally.

I'm currently on my third unit within 7 days. My Internet connection seems to hang about 2 or 3 times a day, and until I try to use the Internet Is don't realise. After then restarting my phone, I get a flood of whatsapps, emails and fb alerts. It's getting really old really quickly,to the point where I just want rid of the phone.

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I'm currently on my third unit within 7 days. My Internet connection seems to hang about 2 or 3 times a day, and until I try to use the Internet Is don't realise. After then restarting my phone, I get a flood of whatsapps, emails and fb alerts. It's getting really old really quickly,to the point where I just want rid of the phone.
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I've only had that once, last Fri however it is a bit weird, here's how mine manifested itself:
- Work most of the day in an office, good wifi connection. Don't use the phone much but see that it is working OK, getting emails, fb updates etc. Can browse the internet via Chrome
- Left the office and try to do a search. Using Google search from the home screen the results showed up very quickly but then when I tried to open any of those links in chrome it would just say no network or something similar. Tried shutting down chrome, clearing cache and data but made no difference.
The weird thing here is that the 4g / mobile data connection WAS working, but the issue was with Chrome.
I'm still stock, not likely to change that but since Chrome is now an intrinsic part of the Xperia build how do you uninstall / reinstall? Or do I end up installing another browser?

Chrome has done this to me on Z3 Compact and a few times on my previous Xperia ZR. Just close the browser from the multi-app right button by flicking it to the side, then try again. If it gets too tedious, install another browser.

Hi, any one have the same issue as me?
My Z3C black out after 2nd week of use then could not power on. Brought to service center and the person claim that it is software issue.. Took back the phone after they reformatted, then after 12hrs use, same problem again.. Then they change 1-1 for me.. but after another week of use, same issue on the 2nd phone!
who have the same issue as me? what should i do next? i cant be bringing the phone in to service center every week..

hello,
I think it's the same pb for me... "Z3 Compact" bought the 28.09.2014. The phone is turned off itself in the middle of the day in my pocket. The battery level was approx. 75% => Black screen, not even light on the charger...:S The Sony support told me to send them with charger and usb cable. I am waiting for news... approx. 10 days...

A number of issues with Nexus 6

Hello all,
Had my Nexus 6 since launch day in the UK, and I started out really liking it, but it's getting more and more in my bad books as I live with it. Wonder if anyone who has one could look over this and tell me if these issues are standard with this device, or whether I need to get onto the network (Vodafone - what a pain)
Reboots - I'm getting a number of reboots. I know this can be app caused, and I'm working through. The main problem is that it requires a pin or swipe to start it booting up, so overnight if it happens, you've got yourself a dead phone till you physically get it going again in the morning
slowdown - I've got a couple of games, one is sky force, that worked well on my note 3, but suffers some terrible slowdown on the Nexus. No idea why this would happen with a better processor
not connecting to 5g on the router - my router has a 2 and 5 g aerial. It works fine on the 2 g, and every other device works on the 5g, but the nexus just will not connect.
slowness of starting up the camera - starting the camera can be 30 seconds.
Upside down display camera pics on some apps - KIK for eg? I know others with Lollipop who don't have this issue on their Sammys.
very bad battery - In use, heavy use, it'll be 3 hours. Average use, bit of messaging, a game, internet, could be 4 hours.
lack of focus on camcorder - it won't stay on a fixed
Slowness of booting up - Can be literally 5 minutes to boot to the main screen. Reminds me a bit of Windows at its worse!
I've had smartphones for many years, and I'm used to their foibles, like battery life and apps that cause reboots, but this is probably the most difficult phone I've had to live with!
I love the screen, the hugeness of it is just what I want, and the sound is great.

I'm getting the crashes, primarily when using the camera, doesn't reboot just stops, 3 times in a few minutes on more than one occasion. Sometimes won't connect to home WiFi without a restart. Start up is very slow. Don't suffer from the other issues. I'm on O2 4G.

mozza1976 said:
Hello all,
Had my Nexus 6 since launch day in the UK, and I started out really liking it, but it's getting more and more in my bad books as I live with it. Wonder if anyone who has one could look over this and tell me if these issues are standard with this device, or whether I need to get onto the network (Vodafone - what a pain)
Reboots - I'm getting a number of reboots. I know this can be app caused, and I'm working through. The main problem is that it requires a pin or swipe to start it booting up, so overnight if it happens, you've got yourself a dead phone till you physically get it going again in the morning
slowdown - I've got a couple of games, one is sky force, that worked well on my note 3, but suffers some terrible slowdown on the Nexus. No idea why this would happen with a better processor
not connecting to 5g on the router - my router has a 2 and 5 g aerial. It works fine on the 2 g, and every other device works on the 5g, but the nexus just will not connect.
slowness of starting up the camera - starting the camera can be 30 seconds.
Upside down display camera pics on some apps - KIK for eg? I know others with Lollipop who don't have this issue on their Sammys.
very bad battery - In use, heavy use, it'll be 3 hours. Average use, bit of messaging, a game, internet, could be 4 hours.
lack of focus on camcorder - it won't stay on a fixed
Slowness of booting up - Can be literally 5 minutes to boot to the main screen. Reminds me a bit of Windows at its worse!
I've had smartphones for many years, and I'm used to their foibles, like battery life and apps that cause reboots, but this is probably the most difficult phone I've had to live with!
I love the screen, the hugeness of it is just what I want, and the sound is great.
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could be a faulty phone or rom ... I've had mine for a month now and no problems so far and great battery life

mozza1976 said:
Hello all,
Had my Nexus 6 since launch day in the UK, and I started out really liking it, but it's getting more and more in my bad books as I live with it. Wonder if anyone who has one could look over this and tell me if these issues are standard with this device, or whether I need to get onto the network (Vodafone - what a pain)
[*]Reboots - I'm getting a number of reboots. I know this can be app caused, and I'm working through. The main problem is that it requires a pin or swipe to start it booting up, so overnight if it happens, you've got yourself a dead phone till you physically get it going again in the morning
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This is actually looking a lot like it may be a software defect. For now, the best solution (i.e. temporary, until 5.1 comes out later this month) is to run the phone withOUT encryption. There are lots of threads around about the minor boot partition change needed to accomplish this.
[*]slowdown - I've got a couple of games, one is sky force, that worked well on my note 3, but suffers some terrible slowdown on the Nexus. No idea why this would happen with a better processor
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Two reasons;
1) is that despite the better processor, anything I/O heavy will take a lot of CPU power to just handle the crypto. Hopefully, this is something that will be solved (hwcrypto) with 5.1.
2) android 5.0 has some major changes in the runtime -- ART vs Dalvik. If the application developer broke rules in building the software you are running, then it is possible that it won't work optimally on ART. Hopefully, the application developer can adapt.
[*]not connecting to 5g on the router - my router has a 2 and 5 g aerial. It works fine on the 2 g, and every other device works on the 5g, but the nexus just will not connect.
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Works for me....?
Try a router with OpenWRT.
If I remember correctly, some of the OLDER 5G 802.11AC chips used in a lot of routers, like TPLINK Archer C7v1, which has a Qualcomm Atheros QCA9880-AR1A had hardware that was a bit rushed to market and failed to meet a number of the AC specifications. So if your router is such an AC, then the hardware that is working with it may be using 802.11N (older tech), whereas this phone is trying to negotiate an 802.11AC link with it, and failing. So there is a good chance that the problem is actually on the ROUTER's side, rather than the phone.
[*]slowness of starting up the camera - starting the camera can be 30 seconds.
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Something not right there. Mine takes 2 seconds from pressing the camera button.
[*]Upside down display camera pics on some apps - KIK for eg? I know others with Lollipop who don't have this issue on their Sammys.
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There are *two* ways to deal with orientation in jpg images; one is to write the image to the file "upright", the other is to write it to the image file as it comes from the buffer, and just give it an orientation flip flag. The software you are using *may not respect* the orientation flag.
[*]very bad battery - In use, heavy use, it'll be 3 hours. Average use, bit of messaging, a game, internet, could be 4 hours.
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I'm actually finding the battery to be quite phenomenal on this device. With low-moderate usage, it will actually go for TWO ENTIRE DAYS on a charge. Usually to get that kind of battery life, I have to apply very invasive controls against google services to prevent them from setting alarms and holding wakelocks.
However, if you have the screen on high brightness and actually turned on a lot, do remember, the screen is ENORMOUS. It takes power to light it up.
[*]lack of focus on camcorder - it won't stay on a fixed
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I had to check that to verify, and confirm it. That appears to be a bug in the camera application. Try a different camera program for now, and hope that 5.1 fixes it.
[*]Slowness of booting up - Can be literally 5 minutes to boot to the main screen. Reminds me a bit of Windows at its worse!
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Might be software crypto, mine isn't encrypted, and literally boots right up to the unlock screen in about 10 seconds.
I've had smartphones for many years, and I'm used to their foibles, like battery life and apps that cause reboots, but this is probably the most difficult phone I've had to live with!
I love the screen, the hugeness of it is just what I want, and the sound is great.
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Well, the SIZE is almost certainly what is causing you battery life issues. The rest of it is basically because you are running an early version of a MASSIVE system update and simultaneously riding on new hardware that brings in its own batch of *software* bugs. There are some bugs in it that need to be worked out, and hopefully, the majority get worked out with 5.1. There *are* google-private 5.1 builds for Nexus 6 already, so it is just a matter of waiting for them to complete QA and ship it out.

Thanks for this, really appreciate the time, I'll have a good look through later!

Found a fix for the 5ghz router issues on the Google forum.
Apparebtly the nexus favours the American 5g channels... So I've set it to 36 and 40 and its working well! Yey.
Tomorrow I'll try a cache wipe to see what else I can correct before the update.

Is z3+ overheating problem fixed?

It really bothers me because I am deciding between z3+ and the s6, and I've seen that z3+ gets high temp warnings when using gps for ~30 minutes; and as I'm planning on using gps a lot, that would be a major problem for me. Should I just go with the s6?
Thanks!

It's hard to tell. Some had zero heat issues. Mine rarely gets hot. I use my GPS, lte, you should be good because I heard it's with the previous firmware.

I don't think it's really fixed. I'll be buying a new phone next month maybe.
Z3+ is a good phone. Good specs but the heating issue is really bad for me even after a software update and also changing the set to a new one within a month of purchasing this.
It's still ok if you are a light user.
From my experience:-
1.) Camera is a disappointment. Quality is good but it over heats so quickly and the phone hangs. Not just video but for photo taking as well. For me this is a big issue since I do make use of the camera during functions, events etc. Didn't have any issues with my previous android and iphones.
2.) Notification tone is loud which is a good thing but ringing tone is sinfully soft. Have missed calls many times.
3.) Phone also gets hot when i'm playing games and/or using any other apps (Internet, chatting etc)
Besides these,
The photo and video qualities are good (even though the phone hangs quickly due to quick overheating).
Software experience is smooth and I never experience any lags.
The reason i bought this over a samsung is because:
1.) Z3+ has a micro sd card slot. ( Personally i need it)
2.) I like sony's music quality better than samsung.
But since the overheating is a big problem for me, i'll need to get another phone soon.
Still scouting.
Hope it helps.

Note 7 bugs

I don't know how much longer I can put up with Samsung. I've been with them since the note 1 and it's so bad now. Everything from poor software to faulty hardware. GPS seems like its never worked correctly, no matter what they do. Updates cripple their phones. Their camera has certainly gone backwards in quality since the note 4 camera. The phone is lagging and slow always. Even in safe mode. The battery life is 3 hours at best, which is unacceptable. They force updates now, like Microsoft. They bundle things that you can't remove like facebook and instagram, but make you separately download their media players? That's backwards. The reception is horrible compared to other phones. Wi-Fi drops all the time, even next to my router. It has to warn me every single time I plug in headphones that it could damage my hearing. It has to notify me every single time I open the camera that location is either on or off. Charging is slow. Games shudder and lag no matter what I do. I can remove huge, useless apps like facebook. I can't root because of the locked bootloaders. I can't ever quickly see my new facebook messages because it has to now group multiple notifications and there is no way to turn off the "open chat heads" nonsense. The only thing mine doesn't do is over heat it seems like. That green battery ic9on update with the ultimate new UI completely compromised my Note. T-Mobile won't take it back without paying $50 either.
Samsung seems to have turned their backs on what their actual fans want in favor of being an iClone. Why does every single app and menu have a search bar now? Annoying. The drop down menu and notifications have severely dropped in quality since ICS. Does anyone else feel this way at all? It took me a long time to swallow my pride and get the note 2 way back when. Now I regret that I did. I can't find a way around these issues and no one will help.
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