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Instant Messaging, is OctroTalk the best?

Looking to use AOL IM primarily.. is octrotalk my best choice for Wm6?

I liked Palringo more.
OctroTalk made you register your yahoo as a jabber account or something, so after I did that some mysterious service kept logging into my account even if I wasn't there. So I went and changed the Yahoo IM password, and stopped using OctroTalk.

thanks i will use palringo

anyone have any other suggestions??

IM+ is nice, but its not free.

IMO, IM+ is the best out there, but yes, it's quite expensive for a WM app...

IMO, IM+ is the best out there, but yes, it's quite expensive for a WM app...I like Agile Messenger also. Its not free either, but cheaper, I think. And it has a nice long trial to decide first.
http://www.agilemobile.com/

thanks for the responses, i will try palringo and i dont like it i will buy IM+

mrkoven said:
thanks for the responses, i will try palringo and i dont like it i will buy IM+
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I just installed IM+ and am very impressed with it. Worth the money.

Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts

I'm new to IM on WM devices (not new to WM or IM though, just the combination), and wanted to know if any of these allow you to stay logged in and appear available with the phone in standby mode, and then will notify you when a message arrives.
Thanks.

pda_crazy said:
Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts
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You can send Voice IM with Palringo to any of your contacts. they will receive an IM that has a link to the Palringo site to click on to get your voice message. While it can be a pain (for the person not running Palringo) I've had chats with a contact running Palringo where they are Voice IM'ing me, and I'm typing text back to them.
If you are asking if you can do 2 way voice chat (sort of like skype) then no, Palringo is an IM style Voice. But whats nice about this is the receiver can listen to your message when its convenient for them (like with IM, you read it when its convenient) then respond via voice or text.

Slick by Lonley Cat Games. It's currently free.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick

I used OctroTalk on my Dash when I only used WiFi. It doesn't seem to work over AT&T's MEdia Net because of the proxy.

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Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts
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Frankly, guys, I don't understand why you don't read the Wiki before asking. There is a FULL review of Palringo in there ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tiplatform instant messenger client: Palringo ), where I've answered ALL questions like these.
It can't chat over VoIP but supports single-directional voice clips. Nothing else. If you need VoIP / real chat, get Fring, it supports full VoIP with Skype, MSN , Google Talk and standard SIP. Note that OctroTalk also supports Google Talk. The latter no longer supports Yahoo Messenger – earlier betas didn’t gray out “Call” with YM clients.
I've written a review of Fring at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...WM Standard) info + Fring review + other news

SacTilt said:
I'm new to IM on WM devices (not new to WM or IM though, just the combination), and wanted to know if any of these allow you to stay logged in and appear available with the phone in standby mode, and then will notify you when a message arrives.
Thanks.
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All of them do. Read the IM Bible - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The Windows Mobile Instant Messaging Bible
Also check out the even newer reviews at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instant Messaging, VoIP, other p2p communication

Menneisyys said:
Frankly, guys, I don't understand why you don't read the Wiki before asking. There is a FULL review of Palringo in there ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tiplatform instant messenger client: Palringo ), where I've answered ALL questions like these.
It can't chat over VoIP but supports single-directional voice clips. Nothing else. If you need VoIP / real chat, get Fring, it supports full VoIP with Skype, MSN , Google Talk and standard SIP. Note that OctroTalk also supports Google Talk. The latter no longer supports Yahoo Messenger – earlier betas didn’t gray out “Call” with YM clients.
I've written a review of Fring at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...WM Standard) info + Fring review + other news
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Thanks Buddy.
Your review links have answered my all the questions. Hats off to you...
Just One last silly question:--
As you mentioned while installing Fring.. "Make sure you let it also run the CAB file so that it is installed".
My question is that will we be having an option to choose the path while installing cab. So that i can install it on my storage card instead on phone memory.
Actually it's a generic question and due to performance i want to install all my cab files in my storage card....
Thanks for your help.....

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My question is that will we be having an option to choose the path while installing cab. So that i can install it on my storage card instead on phone memory.
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Yup, you will: WM5+ asks the destination when you directly click a CAB file.
However, Fring is auto-starting and the memory card MAY not be available during booting, which MAY result in a boot-time error message. Therefore, if you encounter these problems after resets, make sure you (re)install it to the built-in storage instead.
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Actually it's a generic question and due to performance i want to install all my cab files in my storage card....
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Under WM5+, on models not suffering from compaction problems (and the Kaiser is one of them), it's no longer necessary to keep the built-in storage clean and install / copy as much stuff to the card as possible.

www.fring.com is also a great IM/voice-enabled client.
(And free !!)

I'm using the last freeware version of Agile. Still works fine. Recurring charges are ridiculous for an IM client, especially when you can get great open-source apps like Adium for absolutely no charge. It's legit, since nobody can force you to upgrade your install of their app.
I tried IM+. It was OK but not that great. Mundu refused to let me run their current version despite selling me a "lifetime" license for their PalmOS version a year or two ago, so I not only refuse to pay their extortion fee but recommend against using their software. Their "lifetime" license ... isn't.

Free mobile IM softwares

Heya,
I just recently got the Fuze and also a first time user of the wimo OS and I just found out that I get charged for the IMs that i send through the default IM softwares. Is there any decent or good IM software out there for wimo? I have the unlimited data plan so I'd like to make the best of it. Thank you very much.

There's a plethora of programs for this purpose. Try looking for Sling, Octro Talk, Fring, IM+, etc. My personal program is BeeJive/JiveTalk.

Have a look here and here

does beejive and IM+ required to be paid for?
and among the freewares, which would you recommend the most?

I tried installing Beejive but for every message that comes in/or I send i receive a text message saying WVCI 1.1 aim. Any way to get rid of this?

For ICQ especially is the best solution software named Pigeon. For Push-to-talk conversation via internet use Palringo.

I ended up using EQO.. the only problem i have with it is the fact that i cant read what i typed down until i send it.. it seems to be a bug of some sort.

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I ended up using EQO.. the only problem i have with it is the fact that i cant read what i typed down until i send it.. it seems to be a bug of some sort.
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So far every aim client i've tried is doing the same thing. The one that comes with the fuze was great until i found out it uses SMS.

yeah. i found that out after wasting 10 or so txt msgs....
EQO is a pretty nice freeware IM and it seems like the landscape mode issue is present in all other IM software.. maybe it's a HTC thing.

might it have anything to do with the resolution of the phone? maybe the programs aren't optimzed for this res?

Slick messenger is free...... He supports ICQ, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, AIM and Jabber.

I do love Palringo. It is very fast and can do everything you need!

Palringo
I have to agree with the previous poster. http://palringo.com - easily the best option out there. Tight integration, multiple accounts active on multiple services, includes AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, and Jabber/GTalk.
Only weird thing is that you have to create an account on their website first. But then if you ever move phones / reinstall, your profile includes all your accounts already. And you can send picture messages inline directly.

Personally I like IM+ the best, It has support for aim,msn,yahoo,googletalk,icq, and jabber. You do have to pay for it however.
edit, but now that ive seen palringo in the posts above i think my first impression is wow that looks a lot nicer than im+.

another vote for plaringo. i use it very often with the voice chat, picture now location (gps/cell tower trianglutaion) works on my desktop and ppc

One big minus for Palringo...it drains the battery very quickly. Instead that,it is perfect solution for voice messaging also via slow GPRS! and it's multiplatform(I use it with Hurricane and previously with Himalaya).

I don't think Palringo is all that big of a battery hog. I used to keep it on for hours at a time and never had any issues on my Kaiser. This was generally quick bursts of a dozen messages a couple times an hour.
But yes, my preferred IM client on Windows Mobile so far. Have not tried any of the for-pay ones. Yeah you do have to create an account, but it's because they want you to use their messaging service which seems like it would be very useful if you know anyone else with the program. It's multiplatform, and has media sharing and push-to-talk which I hear works decently well.

Palringo is my vote. I BOUGHT IM+ about 2 days b4 someone showed me Palringo. I was sad.
Only drawbacks for me is I use AOL IM alot. It doesn't keep my AOL directories. It just throws everything into "online" or "offline".
No vibration feature or light. I think IM+ had those.
I LOVE voice IMing. As long as you AIM someone with the sound on, they get a tag saying I sent a voice message. When they click on it, it plays back what I said. Very handy while driving.
Allows two different AIMs to be signed in. I like that. Sometimes I need work aim and home aim on.
Now I kinda use AOLIM client for Windows Mobile. Works fine. And has my directories.

+1 for Palringo
I've tried every PPC IM program out there and Palringo is the one I settled on. I'm very happy with it and it's free. They also continue to improve it and add features (though I'm very happy with it now).
-Mc

Oh. I dloaded IM+ since I havn't used it in about a year. They IMPROVED it. Now has a history, remembers my aol groups. Only thing still missing is vibration and teh ability to show AIM personal messages.

Adding contact pictures to your phone from Facebook

Man, I wrote this tool ages ago. I completely forgot about it until I saw the other thread in this forum. Basically I wanted a way to get all my friend's facebook profile photos into my phone really easily.
Your phone syncs your contacts from your Gmail/Google. And Gmail supports contact pictures. I wrote an application that logs into your facebook, and finds any contacts that also exist in your Gmail account. If it finds a matching contact, it uploads that Facebook profile picture to your Gmail contact. And then those pictures show up on your phone! Pretty useful.
Usage (this application runs on your Windows PC):
0) Make sure you have .NET Framework 3.5. The application may crash otherwise.
1) Start the application and input your Gmail username and password.
2) The next screen will ask for your Facebook credentials.
3) Wait for it... Wait for it... Done! (The application will have finished syncing)
4) Wait some more... Your phone may take a while to sync the new images from Google's servers. But they'll get there eventually.
WARNING: This will replace any photos that may already be associated with your contact. Go ahead and modify the code if you don't want it to do that.
Download the Windows application and the source here:
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2008/10/synchronizing-google-and-facebook.html

Whoah dude! I can't use this (Mac!) but sounds great. I'm assuming you have all the API's down, have you considered building this as an Android app?

punkweakling said:
Whoah dude! I can't use this (Mac!) but sounds great. I'm assuming you have all the API's down, have you considered building this as an Android app?
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Just run it on a Windows PC then. Nothing is actually stored on the PC; it's just syncing pictures between servers (Google/Facebook). I ran it once several months ago and haven't thought about it since.
Yeah, I've thought about making it an Android application, but I don't think it would be that useful. Contact management and syncing between two servers is done much easier on a PC, for both the user and a developer. I'm thinking about improving the application to allow syncing between Outlook, Facebook, and Google. That would be handy, but difficult to use on a phone. The results, however, would show up on your phone.

I must say, great little app. I've given up trying to add pictures to my contacts. Worked perfetly once I got Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 installed. I hope you really consider making this an Android App. I can guarantee that it'll get thousands of downloads in the first day.
For those of you who do note have Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5, check out the link below.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FD-AE52-4E35-B531-508D977D32A6&displaylang=en

this is very nice. i would love to use it.... if only i wasnt still using myspace... bleh

Facebook pics for gmail contacts...
worked great for me. Thanks!

If it is on Android, every time a new contact is added, the program searches for the profile image from Facebook or Linkedin. It might be cool. Is your source code under GPL? I am interested in converting your code into Java, so it can run on Android.

It's Creative Commons, not GPL. The application itself is less than 30 lines of code. It is just leveraging the .NET bindings to the Facebook and Google Data APIs.

So is this using phone numbers? Email addresses? Names? (to compare between Gmail and Facebook)?

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So is this using phone numbers? Email addresses? Names? (to compare between Gmail and Facebook)?
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Just names. The Facebook API does definitely does not give you access to the email address. And the version I was using (and this may have changed) also does not give you access to phone numbers.

Koush said:
Just names. The Facebook API does definitely does not give you access to the email address. And the version I was using (and this may have changed) also does not give you access to phone numbers.
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Ahh... ok. I have a lot of my friends listed by nicknames etc. I understand that the phone/emails are actually images (I assume to thwart off spammers with automated catchers).
It would be awesome if this wasn't the case though. I have been spending the last hour adding email addresses from Facebook contacts so I can add a picture to their name.

good app but i wish it sync'd contacts by name instead of email...
meaning if two names match, sync. even if i just have a phone number for that contact and not an email.
but good app.

cboy007 said:
good app but i wish it sync'd contacts by name instead of email...
meaning if two names match, sync. even if i just have a phone number for that contact and not an email.
but good app.
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Actually, it only matches by name. You can't access emails or phone numbers through the Facebook API.

Koush said:
Actually, it only matches by name. You can't access emails or phone numbers through the Facebook API.
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Reading comprehension is not one of his strong points.

How can i change the way it matches? for example instead of names, i put my friends facebok id as "customer id" field on windows mobile outlook. and i want it to syncronize if they matches istead of names. this way there will be no confusion if names doesnt match because of a small difference. do you think it needs much work?

worked pretty well for me.. pic quality was a bit distorted on a few.. but what the hell.. they're photo's I didn't have before Thank You for a neat little app.

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worked pretty well for me.. pic quality was a bit distorted on a few.. but what the hell.. they're photo's I didn't have before Thank You for a neat little app.
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Agreed. Nice app, thanks

hate to bring back an old thread, but is there any plan to develop this for facebook/microsoft pic transfers? For those of us that don't have office, but use an @hotmail or @live, this would be great.
Thanks

It would be great if I could link the contacts to their Facebook account manually if their names do not match ^^.

There is also a facebook sync app on the market that works well for me. Hasn't missed a contact or had a false match for me.

Meebo! AIM, MSN, Yahoo, MySpace IM, Google Talk, Jabber *working solution*

Finally, a viable messaging solution for android. The current version of Meebo for the android platform(V6) surpasses the quality of BuddyMob. I(along with others) have confirmed that there are no disconnects while phone is asleep, no forced closing, and no lost incoming messages while phone is asleep. Also, the best part is messages are received almost instantly without using sms. Pure data. I am sooo excited I could cry. Now I can say my G1 is finally a competititor in the pda market. Thank You Meebo!!!!!!!!!
You can find meebo in the Android Market.
Also, please post your results here. Maby the developer will see our support and improve the app.

Interesting. I had a few issues with Meebo that made me switch to BuddyMob instead. I will definitely check the new version of Meebo out.

Ugh. Unfortunately it still won't remember my ICQ UIN/password between sessions. I really can't be bothered to type that in manually every time I log on. It's a pity, because Meebo does seem to have improved a lot in other areas, like how it's now listing my contacts' nicknames instead of their UIN's.

after 2 days of use, I noticed the battery life is better with meebo.
mannyb, have you added this comment to the market? The dev might add the feature if he/she sees enough request for it. I noticed my requested features were added.
Also, for the U.K. users who are upset about the builtin IM missing some networks. This is a good free solution. If we get enough ppl supporting the dev this app would ROCK.

palringo is being worked on too.

Im alpha testing palringo. Its quite promising

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Im alpha testing palringo. Its quite promising
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GReat to hear. Is push-to-talk included? That would be awsome!

RC33 have AIM / ICQ / MSN / Yahoo included in IM

its there a way to get the meebo or build in msn connected in sleep mode via wifi? allways disconect

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RC33 have AIM / ICQ / MSN / Yahoo included in IM
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But the built in IM client really does suck, IMHO. Hard. I have a couple hundred buddies. (I use it for work and for play..) and have multiple accounts with multiple groups and I find that it takes forever to load, then populate with buddies... plus, the stock apps (as well as most of the other IM clients) insist on showing empty groups. So, I've got 15 empty groups showing...
Meebo combines all buddy lists in one, it's SUPER quick to load, can have more than one of each account signed in plus empty groups are ignored. I'm sold.

Plus, the built-in IM app uses text-message credits for both inbound and outbound IMs (with the exception of GTalk).
If Meebo would add Facebook chat to the Android client then this would be a no-brainer.
-tw

It has support for Facebook chat you just have to first set it up on meebo.com and then once you sign on with your Meebo account on the G1 your Facebook contacts will show up. I have tried it and it works well,.
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Plus, the built-in IM app uses text-message credits for both inbound and outbound IMs (with the exception of GTalk).
If Meebo would add Facebook chat to the Android client then this would be a no-brainer.
-tw
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twieder said:
Plus, the built-in IM app uses text-message credits for both inbound and outbound IMs (with the exception of GTalk).
If Meebo would add Facebook chat to the Android client then this would be a no-brainer.
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get an account on meebo.com and set up your facebook/aim/yahoo/msn/icq/myspace/etc... accounts. Then, sign in under "Meebo" on the android client and they're all there.
I know.
I know.
It's the ****.

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GReat to hear. Is push-to-talk included? That would be awsome!
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Palringo PTT looks to be coming but is not in the alpha release yet (icons there). It's coming along nicely, but far from complete. I love that with Palringo you log in to one Palringo account and bam, all your other accounts come up and log in. Pretty hawt.

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I love that with Palringo you log in to one Palringo account and bam, all your other accounts come up and log in. Pretty hawt.
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Meebo does that too. Choose "Meebo" from the drop down list on your phone and any IM networks that you have associated with the Meebo web account auto-log in. I currently have MySpace, Facebook, G-Talk, 2 yahoo accounts, AIM, ICQ and MSN.
(Damn, I sound like I work for the company. (I don't))

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Meebo does that too. Choose "Meebo" from the drop down list on your phone and any IM networks that you have associated with the Meebo web account auto-log in. I currently have MySpace, Facebook, G-Talk, 2 yahoo accounts, AIM, ICQ and MSN.
(Damn, I sound like I work for the company. (I don't))
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DO any of these apps allow for status updates in aim?

There is so far a HUGE issue with Meebo. There is NO status updating. You cannot go "Away" or "Idle" or any of that, nor can you post your own status. To me this is a major drawback that needs addressing. I tried BuddyMob, it didn't really work very well. Ill be waiting on an update for Meebo. (there was actually one today, but did not address the problem at hand.)

So you can in fact utilize facebook and Myspace messenger within meebo? How does this IM application effect battery life? Is it push messaging or is the application just constantly polling a server?

I haven't noticed any major battery draw while using it... I don't always have it on. As for changing statuses, I just don't think that's a big issue for me. It I'm not available for chat, I just turn the thing off. The only issue I have regarding meebo is the notification is always on even after I've logged off, saying I'm still "signed on with x number off accounts."
@gimpeh - yes, sign on via the website and create a meebo account and you can add facebook and myspace as well as yahoo AIM, ICQ, etc... . Then, on the G1, dont sign on to each account (yahoo and aim, etc..) just signon to "Meebo" and you'll signed onto all of your accounts at once.

So far, none of the IM clients - online or real apps - can handle being in an environment where they lose signal on a regular basis. My office building has scattered signal inside for T-Mobile, and if I walk to another office, I'm bound to lose signal for atleast 15-20seconds. None of the IM clients can handle this. The builtin GTalk is the best, by far though. It's atleast able to reconnect after losing signal. But I will leave Meebo running and come back 30min later (After walking around the building a little bit) and it will ALWAYS be disconnected.
Is it really that hard for the developers to poll whether there is signal every few minutes and try to reconnect? It seems like the apps that "claim" to do the polling tend to give up after a certain number of minutes.
In my opinion, all IM apps should continue to poll for an active connection until the radio is shut off. I know it would be a battery drain to a certain degree after a while, but I know many people who are in my situation where they lose signal for very short amounts of time several times a day.

[Q] Instant messenging from Contacts ?

Hi,
I recently found that there is an option for adding IM accounts for each contact. While in Edit Contact mode you have the choice to add an IM account (most common ones) for each contact. If you add an IM account you will then have a choice within a contact to start IM chat with that specific person.
My problem is that if I add an Microsoft Live account for one of my friends nothing happens when I try to send a message. E.g There is no application linked to this action.
It works well if I instead use Google Talk, but then that application is installed on the phone.
Since there is no official MSN application available I wonder if there is a way to get this working ? Is there an Motorola app which is not present on my phone? (running custom firmware) or is there a way to link a specific app to that action ? (Ebuddy for example) or how is this intended to be used ?
Been searching the net for an answer without any luck.
// Suzpel

nope, instant messaging from contacts is only avail. for Gtalk.
some extra functionallity comes with the official skype app, (like in facebook or twitter)
but you can mess aound with jabber transports if ur rly interessted, that works quite well for me, but can get complicated too.
there are guides for that out there - if u google "jabber transport gtalk"

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nope, instant messaging from contacts is only avail. for Gtalk.
some extra functionallity comes with the official skype app, (like in facebook or twitter)
but you can mess aound with jabber transports if ur rly interessted, that works quite well for me, but can get complicated too.
there are guides for that out there - if u google "jabber transport gtalk"
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Thanks for the reply. I also found out that this has nothing to do with Motorola, since it looks and behaves the same on my Samsung Galaxy. Looks like Google prepared for IM via Contacts but since there are no offical clients (or non official) that integrates with the contacts it doesn't work. Would be good to be able to configure this yourself. Anyway I will stick with Ebuddy which lets me connect to different networks within the same applikation.
// Suzpel