I unfortunately have the update on my Revolution and am still iffy on performing the downgrade as seems people are having issues. I was curious, if the RUMORED Gingerbread update comes out, will developers have easier access to create a root method with out having to perform a downgrade?
I'm sure they will, but it will prolly take time.
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I am N1 newbie but not Android newbie - have been using rooted Droid Incredible as my "main" phone for several months.
I just purchased officially unlocked N1 that is currently activated on prepaid T-Mobile account in USA and in future it will be used on my vacation in Europe.
Phone came with OS v. 2.2
I read a lot and things are sure different for N1 comparing to DInc. For DInc there was just one OS update and just one way to root it. For N1 its almost too much of a good thing for someone who hasn't followed it until now - 3 or 4 official OS updates and gazillion ways to root .
At this time I would like to root the phone (definitely, so that I can use third-party apps that require root access) and upgrade OS (possibly). I am not planning to use custom ROMs at this time but would like to try them in the future if rollback to stock ROM is possible.
As I already mentioned - my phone currently uses OS 2.2 and when I checked for an update via phone menu no updates were found. I was connected to internet at the time.
Questions:
1) From what I read some of the official ROMs between 2.2 and 2.3.4 (latest version) had problems. Are these versions even worth considering now that 2.3.4 is out?
2) Are there any known issues in 2.3.4 that are not present in 2.2?
3) What are advantages of going from 2.2 to 2.3.4?
4) Can I upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3.4 directly? All guides I found usually describe 2.2->2.2.1 etc - that is ROMs are updated consequently as they were released.
5) Should I a) update ROM to the latest and then root or b) first root 2.2 and then update ROM?
6) What are advantages of rooting with unlocking bootloader as opposed to rooting without unlocking bootloader?
Read the wiki. It is there to answer most of your ?s. Or use the search function.
If anything is still unclear ask about it and you will get help.
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albundy2010 said:
Read the wiki. It is there to answer most of your ?s. Or use the search function.
If anything is still unclear ask about it and you will get help.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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I read the WIKI and searched and it is still unclear.
1. 2.3.4 is the only version that currently has a fix for the recently found security hole that affects every version of Android other than 2.3.4. But this only affects non-https logins over an open wifi network, and people have to be scanning it.
2. I think the only major issue (depending on who you talk to) is the 2-3 second delay when you first answer a call before your microphone works. It has never really been a bother to me, and doesn't seem to affect everyone (maybe some just take longer to talk after they swipe, IDK).
3. There are a lot. Bugfixes, better UI, faster, support for video calling with GTalk (although obviously, only the back camera works, but you can still receive fine).
4. Almost, you can upgrade directly to 2.3.3. I don't think I have enough posts to add links, but a quick google search of "nexus one full gingerbread update" (without quotes) showed some results and the second one for me is how to manually update to Gingerbread. From there, you have to root the phone, because there are no hacks known to root 2.3.4 yet. This is where it gets a bit tricky because flashing a new update will kill your root. There are a number of guides on xda which can walk you through this part, because it is pretty detailed.
5. Kinda touched on with the above. Don't wait until you get to 2.3.4 until you root.
6. An unlocked bootloader makes things a lot easier. You can actually root your phone if it is running 2.3.4, because this allows you to load a custom recovery, which will give you access to the system partition of your phone. From there, you can add the files needed for root and remove the ones that will replace the recovery. The only benefit to keeping your bootloader unlocked is that it will keep its warranty through HTC, although HTC has been really good about replacing defective phones even if the bootloader is unlocked.
Hey guys, I'm a lurker and wanted to ask a few questions before proceeding.
I've had my bionic since November and everything is pretty much smooth. Today I did a root on it and all went silky smooth. I even downloaded a game cheating app that required root to test stuff out, seemed interesting.
So now, I'm thinking of trying some custom roms. I know a while ago, installing certain roms or updates made changes to the phone that would prevent it from getting new OTA. My question is, when using Safestrap, will installing a rom there make changes to the phone in a way that would prevent it from getting a new OTA like the ICS update maybe in the future?
dethzero said:
Hey guys, I'm a lurker and wanted to ask a few questions before proceeding.
I've had my bionic since November and everything is pretty much smooth. Today I did a root on it and all went silky smooth. I even downloaded a game cheating app that required root to test stuff out, seemed interesting.
So now, I'm thinking of trying some custom roms. I know a while ago, installing certain roms or updates made changes to the phone that would prevent it from getting new OTA. My question is, when using Safestrap, will installing a rom there make changes to the phone in a way that would prevent it from getting a new OTA like the ICS update maybe in the future?
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All custom ROMs have OTA updates disabled. Bionic ROMs are built from heavy modifications of existing Moto framework, and somehow forcing in an OTA update would break the hell out of them.
That said, OTA updates are built with the assumption that you are completely stock. OTA updates fail if you try to apply them on a system with a custom ROM installed.
Also, there's a good chance that OTA updates will break root if you happen to be running stock-rooted. Safestrap is kind of a way of having insurance against situations like that so you can restore to pre-OTA or just install a new ROM entirely.
Safestrap installs your 2nd or "safe" rom in the preinstall partition. And most stock updates contain a preinstall patch. So even when booted on your "unsafe" or stock side, there is a good chance you will have to reflash the preinstall image for the update to succeed.
Make sure you read the instructions on how to SafeStrap. I didn't and found myself reinstalling the OS. If I had read the directions first I would not have had to.
smart-root.com/f-a-q/keep-root-ota/
Can someone with D41510c try this and see if root stays when you update to d41510e?
No. The OTA Update will break the root and your be back to being partially unrooted (some apps may still work). Basically, the OTA Update doesn't actually do anything other than screw things up. It's still KitKat 4.4.2, just less customizable. If you still intend to do it, though, I would suggest making any changes you desire BEFORE the update. The changes should remain. Also, make sure to make a nandroid backup as there are threads with info to roll-back and re-root. (I had to do that to root in the first place. I got my phone with the 10e firmware.)
I do believe that there it's a stock debloated ROM that has root and is version D41510e. Unfortunately some of the essentials are not working properly, but hopefully that will be fixed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-l90/development/d415-modified-stock-v10e-t3013602
I recently upgraded my phone to an AT&T S5 (I decided I didn't like the S6 specs). Currently, the phone is 100% stock, unrooted. I know that previous Samsung phones had problems with OTA updates when they were rooted. Now, with the possibility that the Lollipop OTA is coming soon, I'm hesitant to root until the OTA comes out. Here are my questions:
1. Should I wait to root until after the OTA hits the streets, or is there a strategy to root and still safely apply the OTA?
2. I don't want to be one of the first to get the OTA since it may be buggy. Is there a way to delay the OTA if I'm not rooted?
So, nobody has any thoughts about this?
I can't tell you what you should do but I can tell you what I would do. I would root now, load Titanium backup, and wait for 5.0 to come out. With TBU I freeze the OTA so it's not pushed without my permission. Additionally TBU will backup everything going forward so I can easily move up and restore my apps.
I believe the current process to root will work so be patient.
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So, nobody has any thoughts about this?
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I wouldn't even take the OTA. Lots of issues with it. I am pretty sure LP will be the same.
I rooted mine, installed SafeStrap, and installed the XDK ROM, which eliminates all updates. My phone works great, does everything I want it to. Don't need problematic upgrades to downgrade my system.
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I wouldn't even take the OTA. Lots of issues with it. I am pretty sure LP will be the same.
I rooted mine, installed SafeStrap, and installed the XDK ROM, which eliminates all updates. My phone works great, does everything I want it to. Don't need problematic upgrades to downgrade my system.
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Thanks to both of you for your suggestions. I think I'm going to go ahead and root and stay on the stock rom for a while. If the OTA shows up soon and looks worthwhile, I'll give it a try. Otherwise, I'll install SafeStrap and try a custom ROM.
Sure. Here's an easy answer: if you search for S5 AT&T and lolipop, you'll find lots of things that will say that AT&T will be taking its SWEET time putting an ota upgrade for lolipop out.
It is available from Samsung thru Kies, and I think I am personally going to take a new rom, and try and upgrade and unlock this piece of junque (and I upgraded from a Galaxy SII! )
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I may get an LG G4 and have a couple of quick questions.
Can I just run the phone as stock/rooted? What's the latest official Android version? What's the current easiest root method? If I get a new phone that I want to run stock/rooted, do I just accept all updates and then root when I get to the latest version? Any systemless root option?
With root, can I still take OTAs and then (hopefully) re-root after or once the update installs or will the rooted phone not take OTAs and then I'm forever on the path of having to manually flash updates?
Yes you can run the phone stock rooted and still take updates. But if you do take any updates you take a chance at either losing root or bricking your phone (Someone with more experience would have to answer that but thats my guess) The current version is 5.1 (6.0 for international and sprint). So far this is the easiest root method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3191038 (only for h811 with 10n base) after you do this root method be sure to download twrp and install it with flashify. If you're running 10h base use one click twrp. So far there is no systemless root for 5.1 (only for 6.0) that's about all i got for you.
I saw where the thread to return to "stock" was removed due to a brick issue.
I have the T-Mo G4, running H81110n, and I'd like to un-root it so that I can trade it in back to T-Mo for something new. What's the easiest way to do that, without triggering alarms? The G4 is still new enough that trading it in is worth it, rather than just tossing it in a drawer with all my other old phones.
I used the "low effort" root from jcase/autoprime/tylerfixer back in July. Other than flashing the upgrade to H1110n, I haven't done anything crazy with it.
Thanks!
-m0j0
m0j0 said:
I saw where the thread to return to "stock" was removed due to a brick issue.
I have the T-Mo G4, running H81110n, and I'd like to un-root it so that I can trade it in back to T-Mo for something new. What's the easiest way to do that, without triggering alarms? The G4 is still new enough that trading it in is worth it, rather than just tossing it in a drawer with all my other old phones.
I used the "low effort" root from jcase/autoprime/tylerfixer back in July. Other than flashing the upgrade to H1110n, I haven't done anything crazy with it.
Thanks!
-m0j0
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/development/rom-g4-h811-10n-stock-restore-t3191756