what would cause this odd error when i still have so much free?
found this answer on an other droid forum is it true?
"There is a bug that causes this error, but since 3 big companies are involved, none of them are going to fix it any time soon. Basically, app space is limited to some arbitrary amount and is not equal to the space available on your phone."
I suspect you may be low in system memory. Scroll down to the very bottom of the SD card & phone storage settings. How much available System memory do you have?
system memory is alway around 100Mb even with the space notification.
when I uninstall enough apps it does go away.
stopping open apps or services does not help.
You may want to reset your device. I had a similar problem once with my Atrix. 100mb is a low amount of system memory. I have over 400mb still available on my Thrill.
I have over 650mb left in system memory and its says I have insufficient space whenever I try to download any game around 40mb. I cleared the cache and it worked for one game.
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think i got it...
using ES task manager
memory T:442MB A:96MB =ram?
internal storage T:.98GB A:117MB =system nand or partition of internal sd?
sd card T:5.57GB A:3.92GB =internal sd card?
I have a 32GB external sd card.
I thought "system memory" under "SD card & phone storage settings" was RAM
but is seems to be what "ES task manager" reports as "internal storage"
why the hell is the android set up this way?
seems so ass backwards,
/ = system memory (root dir? is this a partition or seperate physical memory from the internal sd)
/sdcard/ = internal sd
/sdcard/_ExternalSD = external sdcard
What is being referred to as internal storage (or system memory) is where the apps are installed by default. You could try moving some apps to SD and it should help. However, I had a problem like this with my Atrix and I never could figure out what was using all the space, so I just did a factory reset. Of course, I used Titanium Backup first.
I've noticed that the thrill thinks the 4gb internal is an SD card and the actual SD card is labeled as "External" when you explore the files. I was thinking of doing a factory reset so I moved all my apps to SD, when I looked in file manager at my SD there was nothing there. I found them all in a folder called "SDCard" on my internal memory. This may have something to do with your issue.
TylDurden said:
I've noticed that the thrill thinks the 4gb internal is an SD card and the actual SD card is labeled as "External" when you explore the files. I was thinking of doing a factory reset so I moved all my apps to SD, when I looked in file manager at my SD there was nothing there. I found them all in a folder called "SDCard" on my internal memory. This may have something to do with your issue.
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You have 3 types of memory in the phone. There's your external SD (labeled as _External SD), Internal Phone Memory (internal SD), and System Memory (where by default apps are stored). You can move your apps to the internal SD if you desire and that's why it's showing a folder there with the apps in it.
Gr8Danes said:
You have 3 types of memory in the phone. There's your external SD (labeled as _External SD), Internal Phone Memory (internal SD), and System Memory (where by default apps are stored). You can move your apps to the internal SD if you desire and that's why it's showing a folder there with the apps in it.
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So what good does it do to put Apps on the internal SD?
TylDurden said:
So what good does it do to put Apps on the internal SD?
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So that it doesn't take up your system memory. If your system memory gets low, it won't let you install additional apps and may also slow down your phone.
Some people are saying that it is reporting wrong? No there actually is an SD card inside the phone and the one outside under the back plate.
To keep things straight:
System= Actual memory on the phone where apps are installed by default, moving to SD and uninstalling apps can create more space.
Internal= SDcard inside the phone where Apps are moved to when choosing move to SD also Alps will store data here and most downloads go here by default
External= The SDcard under backplate which you can access and change. A lot of apps will put backups here and if you choose SD storage in camera where your pics and vids will be. Usually this is set aside for actual personal storage of media and what not.
^ Is there a way to make the external SD card the default data storage? After installing some Gameloft games, my internal storage is already full (5.6 GBs is pathetic LG) but I still still have 2 more games (Dungeon Defenders and Spectral Souls) I want to install which take up about 2GB.
Killer Bee said:
^ Is there a way to make the external SD card the default data storage? After installing some Gameloft games, my internal storage is already full (5.6 GBs is pathetic LG) but I still still have 2 more games (Dungeon Defenders and Spectral Souls) I want to install which take up about 2GB.
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Not that I'm aware.
Urabewe said:
Some people are saying that it is reporting wrong? No there actually is an SD card inside the phone and the one outside under the back plate.
To keep things straight:
System= Actual memory on the phone where apps are installed by default, moving to SD and uninstalling apps can create more space.
Internal= SDcard inside the phone where Apps are moved to when choosing move to SD also Alps will store data here and most downloads go here by default
External= The SDcard under backplate which you can access and change. A lot of apps will put backups here and if you choose SD storage in camera where your pics and vids will be. Usually this is set aside for actual personal storage of media and what not.
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Close. System is where the OS and the system apps, the ones that come preinstalled are stored. The data partition is where market apps are stored. Installing apps from the market has no effect on the system partition. System apps cannot be moved to the sdcard, internal or otherwise. Its the apps on the /data partition that can be moves to the sdcard/internal storage.
Here's the breakdown:
System=619Mb (OS+system apps)
Internal (data)=1Gb (downloaded apps)
Internal SD=6gb (storage,a2sd)
External SD=8Gb (with included card).
LG claims 8gb internal space. All the above adds up to a little over 7.6gb. Leaving 60mb which is most likely the Cache partition.
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I just installed apps2sd on a freshly wiped system. I'm pretty sure mine's working and tested it by installing Google Earth.
It did subtract around 20mb from the SD card secondary.
But it also subtracted it on the phones internal storage of around 20plus mb.
I rebooted to be sure, but it's still missing 20mb.
Is it normal that values are subtracted on both storage?
It's not normal as far as I know. It would defeat the purpose of Apps2SD.
Urgh. What have I done wrong?
I partitioned the SD until ext4 using Amon_RA 1.7
I wiped to factory settings and ext using Amon_RA 1.7
I flashed CM 5.0.6
then I wiped again to factory settings.
maybe I'm wrong, but what I have heard is that the app stores on SD card but cache of the app is stored on internal memory. what you are experiencing also happens to me when I install any app.
sstang2006: You're right. The data of the app is still store in internal memory from what I know .
Yup...the main data of the app is still stored on internal memory. Only the apk file and some other stuff is stored on the SD.
did you apply the app2sd?
setting > application > apply the app2sd
Its normal. Apps are installed on the SD card, but program DATA is still stored in the internal memory. i.e. apps2sd is literally "apps to sd card"
see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646579
Yes Apps2SD is checked. Oh well, I guess Google Earth naturally takes a lot of the internal storage.
I just thought I would never have a problem with the internal storage decreasing in free space.
Thanks for the responses guys!
use CacheMate and clear your Cache....you'll get some internal memory back.... I use it only after using the market to dl/install apps as i've been told a lot of "data" can be used and never "cleared" when dl/installing from market....Give it a try wth right?
chobie said:
Yes Apps2SD is checked. Oh well, I guess Google Earth naturally takes a lot of the internal storage.
I just thought I would never have a problem with the internal storage decreasing in free space.
Thanks for the responses guys!
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Google Earth has a library file that is 17MB that is installed at /data/data/com.google.earth.
now to start for reference i may use the following terms
internal storage
internal SD
external SD
please note the difference.
This is also referencing the "official android" apps2sd as well as the other ones i have looked at.
in case you dont know any of the apps to SD methods have 1 goal:
to remove apps from the internal memory to an SD card, allowing more apps to be installed on systems.
most android devices dont have an internal SD, because of this the external SD is the normal place to store Apps to the SD card.
This is also where it stores any extra downloaded files (in case of large games) or user accessible files for apps (docs, themes, game roms, backups, config files) on phones without internal SD.
(All those folders that show up on your internal SD on a captivate.)
Now.... the captivate HAS an internal SD.
As far as i am concerned this was only half implemented correct.
THEY DID CORRECTLY now have the app downloaded files, and user interactive files i mentioned above moved to the internal SD.
THEY DIDNT (IMO) move Apps2sd, to the internal SD where it would make more sense.
- having apps on the any SD causes lag at boot, made further worse on the captivate because it mounts the internal SD, and scans it before it mounts the external SD and scans it, and this is where the apps are!
- also if you remove your external SD, you loose the apps.
- the internal SD is WAY more than enough to "want" to have more apps on more cards...
- this would free up the external SD to be PRIMARILY AND EXCLUSIVELY user files.
and remove the last bit of android files that can be removed by taking out an sdcard...
- the internal SD is a class 6 speed, faster than most external SD cards that most inexperienced users end up using.. class 4 ebay/amazon crap.
can we change this???
i dont see any reason why not, we have all the necessary sources for what handles this.
im not exactly running out of internal storage but some users actually do, and this just seems to make more sense.
any update on this?
From what i know currently about android and our cappy's, heres the info.
1. 1.8 GB of "Internal Phone Storage" is plenty enough for (Apps, Data, Contacts, etc.) . I have 312 apps on my phone and i still have 896 MB left.
2. As far as i know, the "Internal" SD of the captivate is partitioned into system, data, and is also the internal sd that you can put files in. So if it really was a Class 6 , despite the horrifying write speeds, it would make no difference because the "Internal Phone Storage" is a partition of the built in 16 gb of internal sd.
Again, i know nothing about how our phone works, but this is the info i know.
I never come near filling the internal storage, so I would not need this for space saving. But, it would make my weekly ROM flash a lot easier to not even worry about those apps.
Apps2insternalsd is an app I would pay for ... and I am not one to buy apps, less than 5 in the past year.
Sent from my Captivate running Continuum 5.6
How can I make an app install onto sdcard2 instead of the internal storage (named as sdcard)? I have a few games that require large files and I would like to keep them on my 32gb sdcard rather than the internal one. Any help would be appreciated.
Apps2SD
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TitaniumBackup has that feature as well, just long press the app you want moved.
The app does not differentiate between the internal memory and the external SD card. It only allows apps to be moved to the internal storage. The problem lies with the fact that the internal storage is named "sdcard" which then means that apps automatically install their data to it instead of the actual external microsd
n4v1n said:
The app does not differentiate between the internal memory and the external SD card. It only allows apps to be moved to the internal storage. The problem lies with the fact that the internal storage is named "sdcard" which then means that apps automatically install their data to it instead of the actual external microsd
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You are very right on that statement, but it has to be some sort of app that move applications from internal memory (sdcard in this case) to the external memory (sdcard2)
When I open file explorer in android I open the folder 'sdcard' and inside it contains the folder 'sdcard2' and basically sdcard2 is empty unless you copy/move files manually to it.
I have 16GB on sdcard2 and 4GB on sdcard and I'm running out of space on sdcard with not knowledge on how to move some big apps to sdcard2.
what is the obsession with app2sd?
this phone has 4 GIGABYTES of internal storage dedicated to apps and data.
i have never once had any urge to run apps from sdcard....i just dont get it
I came from an Optimus One with measly internal storage. I never bothered with it though since it would not mount when I connect to usb and I always used link2sd to expand my internal memory. But now with my Droid Bionic, I am running out of space on the internal memory and I can't seem to force the apps to use external memory.
Example: When I used to download manga on my O1, it usually went directly to external storage. Now I have to set it to download to external before downloading anything. This is a minor problem since it can be moved...
Example2: Apps that install to Android/data on the internal memory. How do I get these apps to install to external data only? I'm running out of space now. I see no option to move data to external memory... There are 2 Android/data folders I can see though. One in external and another in internal. Can I move the folder to external directly?
Dears
My storage space is insufficient, almost reaching 62G, so I used an SD card and selected the merge storage option. After selecting, the system automatically transfers the APP to the merged SD card. The SD card stores 32G but the storage space of the phone is still about the same 62G, the phone still displays the message of insufficient space. When I open the SD card, it does show apps and photos, but when I open the APPS space, it shows NO app.
It feels that the system backs up some apps, photos, videos to the SD card instead of moving the files over.
Is this normal? What should I do to use the SD card properly?
Thank you
Skylarwu said:
Dears
My storage space is insufficient, almost reaching 62G, so I used an SD card and selected the merge storage option. After selecting, the system automatically transfers the APP to the merged SD card. The SD card stores 32G but the storage space of the phone is still about the same 62G, the phone still displays the message of insufficient space. When I open the SD card, it does show apps and photos, but when I open the APPS space, it shows NO app.
It feels that the system backs up some apps, photos, videos to the SD card instead of moving the files over.
Is this normal? What should I do to use the SD card properly?
Thank you
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i recently found out with this device that it manages data so weird..
1st make a back up of your internal storage. and reset your phone with the mr3 from the site
2nd..after that finishes setup device. storage should be normal
3rd. move files from pc that you backedup and DONT COPY THE ANDROID FOLDER. THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS(If you dont play games or just re-download the apk feom play store.)
thats just my conclusion.
i dont use my sd card as interal.. i still don't trust that option. i dont want to lost all my files.. juat my cents
Thanks a lot, reset is a nightmare hahaha