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[q] best autorun task killer

Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works

no one is using any app. to stop unnecessary start up of tasks

try autostarts its very good
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Ditto on Autostarts. Also, Autokiller Memory Optimzer works really well, it doesn't kill tasks itself, it tweaks the Android function thar does it to work better.

auto killer mem optimizer workd well for me.but now i simply don use any of those batt saving app,mem apps etc i jus kill apps in inbuilt task killer...iam using my phone to the peek cause at the end ill b getting a 2ghz dual core by selling sgs.......cant stick to old things lol........cheeerz

tarunagg said:
Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
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... what?
Do any of you even understand how Android works?

so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???

manosv said:
try autostarts its very good
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+1 Autostarts. It amazes me what runs on the phone after start-up, after you switch states or update apps. The perfect cure for batt draining nonsense

rocky23 said:
so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
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Google it. Android is Linux based. Its memory management is not the same as Windows. I'd explain further, but you're the 4,753,857,195 person to ask.

I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.

Shanakin said:
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
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That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
Kind regards,
ww

webwude said:
That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
Kind regards,
ww
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And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.

upichie said:
And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
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Well actually I don't see the point that an app, that I hardly use once per month should be loaded everytime I start the phone or change my internet connection. Also more apps at startup increase the time when the phone is available...
But on the other hand, you are certainly right, after a while, only the latest apps are still in background / memory. What I have recognized nevertheless: if you use a lot of apps with push functionality and load on startup, the phone runs out of memory...
Kind regards,
ww

Apps Performance issue

Hello evry one. I have problem in my captivate and other models of android. I installed almost every custom rom but problem of loading apps fast still exist. What i mean is.. that when i on my mobile, so first time apps like calender, messenging etc take a little time to load. than when i close the app and open again, it loads very quickly. When mobile goes to standby for more than 10 mins, and when i on it, it again take little time to load apps, and widget menu etc.
Why it is like that ??? and whats the solution to always load the apps quickly

majidshahab091 said:
Hello evry one. I have problem in my captivate and other models of android. I installed almost every custom rom but problem of loading apps fast still exist. What i mean is.. that when i on my mobile, so first time apps like calender, messenging etc take a little time to load. than when i close the app and open again, it loads very quickly. When mobile goes to standby for more than 10 mins, and when i on it, it again take little time to load apps, and widget menu etc.
Why it is like that ??? and whats the solution to always load the apps quickly
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It's how Android manages memory. It keeps your apps in memory until it needs to free some, at which point it starts to close apps to free some up. If they're already in memory they open fast because they're already open. If they aren't, they open more slowly.
There's not a ton you can do, really. Some 3rd party sms apps let you lock the app in memory, but I honestly never checked to see if it really works or not.
Personally, I restart my phone every morning when I wake up. This frees up the most memory and allows your phone to leave more apps open before closing them.

make sure you arent running any ****ty task killers.

You could flash an I9000 ROM/kernel that let's you tweak the lmk. (low memory killer)
Talon and semaphore both offer that option.
The trick is to make it weak enough to not kill the apps you want, but aggressive enough to not allow to run out of ram completely.
both of those kernels also have a "bigmem" version that gives the user a bit more ram at the cost of being able to record video in 720p.

studacris said:
You could flash an I9000 ROM/kernel that let's you tweak the lmk. (low memory killer)
Talon and semaphore both offer that option.
The trick is to make it weak enough to not kill the apps you want, but aggressive enough to not allow to run out of ram completely.
both of those kernels also have a "bigmem" version that gives the user a bit more ram at the cost of being able to record video in 720p.
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I like ur answrr. But can u pls guide me abt lmk. I like this idea but never use such tweaks. I m using talon kernel right now and rom is much fast. But have same prb of apps loading

In the app memory freak, that installed with the kernel, there is a slider for you to adjust,
lower number the more aggressive the lmk but the better the overall performance.
Higher number is less aggressive and is better for multitasking, but can be a bit slower.

studacris said:
In the app memory freak, that installed with the kernel, there is a slider for you to adjust,
lower number the more aggressive the lmk but the better the overall performance.
Higher number is less aggressive and is better for multitasking, but can be a bit slower.
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Where to find app memory freak ? i haven't seen any option in CWM

Should have been installed when you flashed talon. If not, it should be linked in the talon op.

[DEVS can you Do it?] Better RAM managment

This Q is for active devs...
Can you guys do RAM to be like after installing V6 supercharger...
Supercharger is great but, it lag from time to time and it needs to be refreshed... So is it possible to modify stock android ram managment to be like supercharger...
(to tweak it actually, to modify minifrees like V6 SC??)
I think performance incrase will be massive that way! Better than some third party scripts.
If it's impossible than, allright.. but it's always good to ask, isn't it?
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...oh .. I apologize, I accidentally posted this in dev section instead of general.. so don't mind please!
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der_mart said:
Hey Dare-Devil,
this Supercharger script actually does exactly what you asked for:
it modifies the settings of the internal/stock android RAM management,nothing more and nothing less.
greetings
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Hey Dare-Devil,
this Supercharger script actually does exactly what you asked for:
it modifies the settings of the internal/stock android RAM management,nothing more and nothing less.
greetings

supercharger is good but , eat my batery !!

I like SC ..
Its better than ram mngr pro ..
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One more question..
Is this possible to achieve more multitasking like FROYO on Gingerbread Roms without the things like:--Swapping,supercharger etc.
1. Gingerbread roms are bug free and with extra features but I can run only 3-4 application at a time
e.g.- suppose that I am downloading some files(100-400MB) with opera/dolphin etc in background and suddenly I have to open root explorer and install some applications then during the installation of these applications opera/dolphin automatically kill by the android and downloading stops.
2. FROYO roms are with less features and some bugs like DSP, A&V Sync.
But one thing that is impressive is that I can run 8-9 applications simultaneously.
Take the same example....I can download files via opera/dolphin in parallel with installing apps via root explorer, playing music, market downloading, Emails etc.
I don't know why there is too much difference. I think this point should not be ignored.

Ram manager pro + swapper + sd class 4
That's all you need.
PD: Supercharger it's laggy and doesn't installs easily...

KASHYAP9 said:
One more question..
Is this possible to achieve more multitasking without the things like:--Swapping,supercharger etc.
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This is my point of the thread
KASHYAP9 said:
1. Gingerbread roms are bug free and with extra features but I can run only 3-4 application at a time
e.g.- suppose that I am downloading some files(100-400MB) with opera/dolphin etc in background and suddenly I have to open root explorer and install some applications then during the installation of these applications opera/dolphin automatically kill by the android and downloading stops.
2. FROYO roms are with less features and some bugs like DSP, A&V Sync.
But one thing that is impressive is that I can run 8-9 applications simultaneously.
Take the same example....I can download files via opera/dolphin in parallel with installing apps via root explorer, playing music, market downloading, Emails etc.
I don't know why there is too much difference. I think this point should not be ignored.
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And I were telling this ages ago...

Gingerbread requires more memory for the OS itself than Froyo. It's as simple as that.
This is why our devices are already out of spec and we have to use many, many hacks to make it run to an acceptable level.
If you want to fix that, you have to analyse where this RAM is consumed and rewrite the code of these components more efficiently. This is actually google's job though.

now i'm interested about this part
wait till i release new optimizer
i'm pretty busy lately

new version released
link : Here My Optimizer

Guys use ram manager app by juwe11.it really does its job.buy the full version and use hard multitasking setting.
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Auto Memory Manager. The idea behind it is simple, but dont restrict the RAM too much, it can **** up performance.

What swapper exactly does?

Please use Google uncle for this question u will get the answer.
As naa said we have to identify the ram eaters. And rewrite memory management segment for those modules. So the basic question is to identify the modules. For that we need a tool that will show the memory consumption.
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[Q] ROM with much RAM free

Hello,
I'm looking for a good ICS ROM with much RAM memory free.
I know there are many good ones like RocketRom, but the RAM is priority for me, as I use a lot off apps and I don't want them to get killed every time I exit them.
The ROM may be stock based (best) or even some other type.
Do You know some You could recommend?
PS. They don't have to be fast as hell.
Admin please don't close this thread.

try bulletproofing them and freezing/removing unwanted apps.
Also try to set autostarts off for apps you only want to run on request as well as proper exiting them to prevent running ram.
granted its android that should optimize ram usage which is why amount of free ram shouldnt impact, but yet it does.
maybe you have set dont keep activities to on development settings if so, disable it. lol.
Other tweaking can be done with minfree and oom levels to lower values, stock however they are pretty low.
last random thing I can come up with is less memory footprint apps. Alternatives for ones you are using. Lol. Goodluck!
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baz77 said:
try bulletproofing them and freezing/removing unwanted apps.
Also try to set autostarts off for apps you only want to run on request as well as proper exiting them to prevent running ram.
granted its android that should optimize ram usage which is why amount of free ram shouldnt impact, but yet it does.
maybe you have set dont keep activities to on development settings if so, disable it. lol.
Other tweaking can be done with minfree and oom levels to lower values, stock however they are pretty low.
last random thing I can come up with is less memory footprint apps. Alternatives for ones you are using. Lol. Goodluck!
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I have used about 170 apps on my SGS2, now I've reduced them to about 120. I have also deleted some system apps, but the problem is android OS.
Killing apps is disabled for 100%, it's just due to 70MB memory free. The launcher is killing almost every time I turn on some other app (build.prop edit didn't stop it from closing).
Android just uses too much RAM. Fresh ROM uses 400+ MB, that's so much.
That's why I'm looking for some ROM that uses max.300MB. Are there any?
I wish I could have ROM from my xpiera x10, which used max 120MB hehe

jakuburban said:
Hello,
I'm looking for a good ICS ROM with much RAM memory free.
I know there are many good ones like RocketRom, but the RAM is priority for me, as I use a lot off apps and I don't want them to get killed every time I exit them.
The ROM may be stock based (best) or even some other type.
Do You know some You could recommend?
PS. They don't have to be fast as hell.
Admin please don't close this thread.
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These type of threads are not allowed....as the best is up to the individual to figure out, what is best for me, may not be best for you....

[Q] Task Manager Question

Hi Peoples
This may be old ground, but hopefully not as I have tried a search on this forum, and there may be an obvious answer but I didn't want to fiddle around and wreck my phone lol
I have a third party app manager app installed on stock 4.2.1 ROM, not because there is anything wrong with the original task manager per se but because I find this one quicker and easier if an app hangs up or I want to close it manually for example; I totally get the whole thing about task killers etc, also the task manager app I installed also gives me a pretty handy overview of CPU clock etc I have rooted the phone and use No Frills CPU to throttle the clock speed back when I am not actually using the phone and hopefully stretch the battery life out a little.
So, in a nut shell; can I freeze the default Task Manager and just use the one I installed without there being any problems? I don't know enough about how android works and exactly what the default Task Manager does to decide if it absolutely has to be there for the phone to work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and just slap me with a wet fish if my questions are stupid

weezlerox said:
Hi Peoples
This may be old ground, but hopefully not as I have tried a search on this forum, and there may be an obvious answer but I didn't want to fiddle around and wreck my phone lol
I have a third party app manager app installed on stock 4.2.1 ROM, not because there is anything wrong with the original task manager per se but because I find this one quicker and easier if an app hangs up or I want to close it manually for example; I totally get the whole thing about task killers etc, also the task manager app I installed also gives me a pretty handy overview of CPU clock etc I have rooted the phone and use No Frills CPU to throttle the clock speed back when I am not actually using the phone and hopefully stretch the battery life out a little.
So, in a nut shell; can I freeze the default Task Manager and just use the one I installed without there being any problems? I don't know enough about how android works and exactly what the default Task Manager does to decide if it absolutely has to be there for the phone to work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and just slap me with a wet fish if my questions are stupid
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I was a bit intrested in memory cleaners/task killers but as much as I know know now Android has built-in memory mechanisms/algorithms which are managing ram to get the best results. If you use any external app you're just slowing down your phone. There is ony one app which can help you a bit to get more hours in standby - greenify, it suspends selected apps on background so it won't use cpu or wifi. When you run them, they run as usual, just not at background after close (do not use it on messangers, you won't get messages after greenifying it).
Next thing - no frills cpu - yes, this can help a bit too, for example there are some battery saving governors or you can underclock cpu (I haven't had lags on 1300 Mhz)
Also I get more hours on battery from custom roms - KitKat came with big improvements here. You can always go back if you don't like it, just do a backup in recovery.

yes but....
I already use greenify and generally freeze apps that I am not using but don't necessarily want to uninstall
I agree totally about the way android works with memory hence my comment in the OP lol.
Anybody else have any advice that may answer my question about the stock Task Manager?