If I wanted to get a new bionic and transfer everything exactly the way it is (like my layout of the home screen, alarm setting, etc...), which of these methods would I use to do that? It seems like all three options have the ability to do so, or something similar, but I can't distinguish the difference.
Titanium Backup Pro
- Batch > backup all user apps + system data
Rom Manager
- Backup current rom
Bionic Bootstrap
- Bootstrap recovery > reboot recovery > backup
So which one of these tasks should I form, and what are the difference between the three? Thanks.
Don't. This is a new device with different hardware/software. Much of the stuff you are trying to port over might not work. Start it from the ground up.
RoyVegasPinoy said:
If I wanted to get a new bionic and transfer everything exactly the way it is (like my layout of the home screen, alarm setting, etc...), which of these methods would I use to do that? It seems like all three options have the ability to do so, or something similar, but I can't distinguish the difference.
Titanium Backup Pro
- Batch > backup all user apps + system data
Rom Manager
- Backup current rom
Bionic Bootstrap
- Bootstrap recovery > reboot recovery > backup
So which one of these tasks should I form, and what are the difference between the three? Thanks.
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Personally, I did what you are trying to do. As far as the backups on the phone through CWM and Bootstrap will only work for the phone model that you are using currently. They will brick your new device if in fact it does let you restore one of them.
TB is a great program to back up apps and data, but the real thing is if you use your gmail account to back up, all you have to do is set up you gmail account when loading the device for the first time and everything will load the way you had it set up before. If you skip the preliminary setup, it will not bring the setting over.
Hope this helps.
RoyVegasPinoy said:
If I wanted to get a new bionic and transfer everything exactly the way it is (like my layout of the home screen, alarm setting, etc...), which of these methods would I use to do that? It seems like all three options have the ability to do so, or something similar, but I can't distinguish the difference.
Titanium Backup Pro
- Batch > backup all user apps + system data
Rom Manager
- Backup current rom
Bionic Bootstrap
- Bootstrap recovery > reboot recovery > backup
So which one of these tasks should I form, and what are the difference between the three? Thanks.
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you can use TTB to restore some apps but I don't recommend! Copy the stuff you want from ur SDCard and start fresh. It's good to clean up and your Bionic will be a lot happier in the end.
I have not had good luck restoring backups with the bionic. They come back but are a bit buggy. (especially the gallery) I prefer to wipe data, cache, delvic, system and restore new. Backup your apps with tibu and you can restore the date from them so you don't have to re-enter all the passwords. If you use Launcher Pro or Go Launcher you can backup you screens so the whole process takes about 5-10 minutes. You just have to reinstall your widgets and ringtones.
I have tibu, root explorer, and bootstapper and use them all for different things. IMHO you need them all to make things easier.
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Don't. This is a new device with different hardware/software. Much of the stuff you are trying to port over might not work. Start it from the ground up.
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SirTanNacht said:
Personally, I did what you are trying to do. As far as the backups on the phone through CWM and Bootstrap will only work for the phone model that you are using currently. They will brick your new device if in fact it does let you restore one of them.
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You both are talking about going from an old bionic to a new bionic right? Not a different model.
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I have not had good luck restoring backups with the bionic. They come back but are a bit buggy.
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Are you talking about backing up from an old bionic to a new bionic? If you're talking about backing up to the same bionic, which method are you using that you are having problems with?
It seems most everyone here is saying not to do these backups and start from fresh, except for certain apps and data. So what exactly would I use those those full backups for if it has these problems that were mentioned?
Mybackup pro is better than titanium IMHO. You can backup contacts texts mms call long Calender etc. Along with all apps.
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I thought you were going from a different model, OP isn't entirely specific. Either way if it was me I'd want to start fresh.
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I thought you were going from a different model, OP isn't entirely specific. Either way if it was me I'd want to start fresh.
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I apologize for not being clear. What I am doing is exchanging my bionic for a new bionic and would like to transfer everything to the new one. So if this is the case, why would you rather start fresh? Assuming everything is the way you want it in the previous bionic.
RoyVegasPinoy said:
I apologize for not being clear. What I am doing is exchanging my bionic for a new bionic and would like to transfer everything to the new one. So if this is the case, why would you rather start fresh? Assuming everything is the way you want it in the previous bionic.
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If you restore a nandroid backup, you will be cloning the Android_id of your old device onto the new phone. From a security standpoint, best practice would be to either start fresh or, at the most, just restore apps and no system data with TB.
They are all 3 completely different applications to do completely different things.
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Old Bionic to new Bionic, I'd use Clockwork to back up everything. Then you just root the new bionic, bootstrap it, restore and you're all set.
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Hi
I installed titanium backup and now I want to backup the following items:
- All applications
- All System data like wireless passwords, etc
- All user data like contacts, sms, mms, dictionary and so on.
Can you please let me know which menu I should use?
thanks.
legolas.w said:
Hi
I installed titanium backup and now I want to backup the following items:
- All applications
- All System data like wireless passwords, etc
- All user data like contacts, sms, mms, dictionary and so on.
Can you please let me know which menu I should use?
thanks.
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Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data
Thank you, Now I can install new ROMs with no worry about my SMS and MMS messages being lost.
legolas.w said:
Thank you, Now I can install new ROMs with no worry about my SMS and MMS messages being lost.
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I also
Will batch work on the TB free version?
If I remember correctly - in free version you can batch backup, but you can't batch restore, or the batch restore is limited speed.
When you batch restore with the free version, you have to confirm each one. Fun.
harolds said:
Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data
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Thanks Man
Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data : is there any difference between this and a nandroid backup? i mean does it make an image with EVERYTHING you have on your phone?
No it doesn't make an image of everything on the phone like a nandroid backup
A nandroid backup backs up the system, data, cache, and a few other things like ext and recovery depending on how you set it but a titanium backup just backs up apps and data (which are on the data and cache partitions).
You can also create an update.zip to put in your recovery folder and flash that way too. You can set a schedule to back up new, new versions or all. IMHO, pay the money. It has helped me in several instances. You can convert system to data or vice versa, un/attach apps to market and my favorite is you can clean your Dex right from the app.
Somewhere way back I thought folks were having issues restoring System with TB and recommended just doing apps/data--
Right or Wrong?
I like MyBackUp Pro as a quicker (non-nandroid) bu of system/sms/mms/call logs/home screens/settings etc
Ken
rugmankc said:
Somewhere way back I thought folks were having issues restoring System with TB and recommended just doing apps/data--
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Well, the issue is that some of the restored settings were conflicting with what was in there. If you restore system back to the same version (of CM or Android), then it should be problem free. But if you are restoring between nightlies of CM or major releases of stock, then options may have changed and restoring *can* cause conflicts that result in funky operations or bootloops. This doesn't happen all the time, but it has happened enough to me that I don't recommend it.
My recommendation is to just backup all your apps and app data (I also include TB's backup of wifi access points, bluetooth pairings, google accounts, call logs and sms messages). It really doesn't take too long to go and check all your settings. Plus it gives you the opportunity to see what new features were added.
And in all honesty, I am not sure MyBackup Pro would be any different in the above... both just backup the data and restore it. I think if one were to cause an issue, the other one would as well.
Thanks for info bass,
I never restore system with TB, only backup/restore apps--no issues
I started using My BackUp before rooted, so as to have a bu of things if root went wrong. Just kept using it
Never had an issue restoring system with My BackUp, even after a month of nightlies
Main thing I like it for is Home Screens--saves time after fresh flash
Ken
rugmankc said:
Main thing I like it for is Home Screens--saves time after fresh flash
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That is definitely a benefit to using a 3rd-party launcher. I use ADW EX and everything for that app is saved in the app data, so as soon as I restore the app I am back to normal (well, except for my widgets and the background, but there are only two widgets that I use). But I do definitely sympathize on not wanting to redo all your settings. I hate it when I forget something simple like changing the wifi back to never turn off.
Agreed--
I use ADW with CMN's but not EX. Haven't looked real close at its restore capabilities. But, My Back Up does CM/Sense/MIUI restores with Home Screens with no problems
Just comfortable with it--
titanium backup restored my adw ex just fine minus the widgets.
thank you i was looking for that.
just wondering if anyone has some input as to what the best app to backup all my setting/apps.
If rooted, Titanium Backup is great!
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J.L.C. said:
If rooted, Titanium Backup is great!
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I also agree with Titanium Backup.
The small donation is REALLY recommended.
I flash a new ROM maybe, once a month, or every few weeks.
I tinker with alot of apps, ROMs and things. SO I'm always messing with my Nexus.
Having the latest of my favorite apps + data, is crucial to me.
After flashing a new ROM, or upgrade, i ALWAYS WIPE. Even though they often say you don't need to, but I do anyways, just because I don't mind starting fresh.
It takes me no more then 10-15 minutes to restore a couple dozen apps + data
Titanium Backup.
/end thread
EDIT: One note when using Titanium Backup: When you load a new ROM, don't just restore everything that you backed up. Some times the new ROM may have newer versions of systems files or things like the browser and such, so you wouldn't want to revert back to your old version. I usually hit "restore all apps and system data", then deselect all and hand pick what I want to restore (a good time for ****ty app clean up too). Common things to restore other than your favorite apps (with data) are browser bookmarks, call log, sms log etc.
Titanium here as well
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thanks alot, i will download titanium backup now and check it out.
thanks for it
I'm using MIUI and MIUI backup also best.
What would be the best option if you're not rooted? I want to unlock my bootloader and root to be able to use root apps but otherwise remain stock, what could I use to backup and restore for the data wipe that unlocking it will do?
Can't do anything to back up apps data without root, sorry. Root privileges are required to access that data. You could only backup phonebook/call log/sms/etc.
Jack_R1 said:
Can't do anything to back up apps data without root, sorry. Root privileges are required to access that data. You could only backup phonebook/call log/sms/etc.
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Welp. At least the apps that actually require effort to set up (launcher pro, widgetsoid, minimal text) all have xml export.
+1 on Titanium Backup, worth every penny for paid version.
I'm new to rooting. Just got my moto droid (1) rooted yesterday using superoneclick. Worked Flawlessly. I've installed barnacle wifi teather utilizing my newely establish root 'superuser'.
I've been reading up on custom roms, removing bloatware, ect and am anxious to give it all a go HOWEVER first things first, I need to make a copy/backup of my stock phone's rom right?
I need to be rooted to make a backup right?
Now I've heard about nandroid and titanium back. From what I've gathered titanium backs up all ur apps and there settings to reintall after flashing a new rom,...right? (Since flashin wipes internal memory)
I think, Nandroid is needed for installing new/custom roms and/or reverting back to my stock rom.....nandroid is a program correct?
Am I following this correctly?
Id really appreciate your time to answer my elemenatry questions.
Thanks!
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Basically, nandroid is a disc image.
You can restore your entire OS quite quickly.
Titanium is simply a very good program for backing up your apps along with data so all your settings are saved.
Restoring with titanium can take a long time though since each app gets installed one by one - and that's when it is working properly. For me, it just keeps closing itself after restoring a singe app.
I haven't seen it recommended but I HIGHLY recommend SuperManager for for backing up and restoring. It doesn't ask any questions. It just puts all your stuff back and it doesn't crash.
So I use SM for restoring the whole shot, and Titanium when I'm being more selective.
if you use nandroid to backup then after you have flashed your new ROM then you can put the nandroid files in the sd/openrecovery/nandroid/ folder, boot into open recovery and pick the nandroid files to install.
I got super manager and backed up my apps to sd card.
Next I got rom manager...now my problem is I cannot get rom manager to back up my stock rom. Flashed the clockworkmod via rom manager and tried booting into recovery,..I only get stock recovery.
Went back into rom manager and flashed the alternative recovery SPRecovery, still no luck booting into an aftermarket recovery.
What the heck am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't gotten ROM Manager to work consistently, but I find that after a few attempts at booting into Clockwork Recovery, it'll eventually go through. Maybe someone can point out a way to make the process take less time.
Got up this morning and thought id try again.
Flashed the clockwork recovery then instantly hit reboot in recovery and voila!! It worked! Weird tho. Made my first nandroid.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what rom to give a try for a motorola droid (1)?
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kmcgill88 said:
Got up this morning and thought id try again.
Flashed the clockwork recovery then instantly hit reboot in recovery and voila!! It worked! Weird tho. Made my first nandroid.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what rom to give a try for a motorola droid (1)?
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If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
vladstercr said:
If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
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I've heard the CM name around a lot. When I go into rom manager I see the CM 6 but I'm still lil nervous to give it a shot. This is my only phone. Soo,....maybe a few more tutorials to review the process once more..just cuz
Now when I flash, say, CM6 I don't need to worry about root or superuser permission anymore do I?
Also what apps, if any, will be pre installed with CM6? (I have backed up my apps with super manager)
I really appreciate everyones help! THANK YOU!
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Since you did a nandroid, you have very little to worry about.
But, just to be super safe, you can copy the nandroid to your computer.
If anything goes wrong, you have an instant restore handy.
About Super Manager - I forgot to mention that to save all your user data along with your apps and to also have a quick restore process, back up using the smbk option.
When you flash CM6, you will stay rooted and be overclocked to 900 mhz.
There is no bloat installed with CM6 but all the essentials are there.
I don't know anything about ROM Manager stuff because I can't use it on my Milestone.
vladstercr said:
If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
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is this the shadwmod you're referring to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939555
will this work for the droid 1 (as long as i flash the proper baseband)? i've tried a fair # of gb builds but not this one and wanna give it a shot. thanks
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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skribzy said:
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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nandroid is only useful for a FULL restore of your entire phone's state. it backs up everything in IMG format, and then re-flashes it *in whole* in the event of a restore. so, short answer, no... you can't restore bits and pieces from a nandroid backup.
HOWEVER, Titanium Backup is my app of choice for backing up applications and app data (because no one should have to start over at angry birds!). The donate/Pro app is TOTALLY worth the few bucks, and it's very easy to use.
To use Titanium Backup: download from market (i really suggest the Pro version), click "Batch" then "backup user apps". When you start fresh with a new ROM, cancel all your active downloads, re-download Titanium Backup from the market and select batch>restore missing apps + app data. This way you restore the data associated with your apps, but not a previous ROMs system data. If you are unable to cancel your downloads, there is also a batch method to uninstall all backed up apps, that way you can make sure that you install your backup and not a "fresh" copy from the market.
A quick note about angry birds using Titanium Backup on GB -- with most GB ROMs, Angry Birds will install by default to the sdcard. They, however, will not run on the sdcard. As soon as you've done a restore using Titanium, just go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, and click Angry Birds and select "Move to Phone". Then you should be good
vuarnet said:
nandroid is only useful for a FULL restore of your entire phone's state. it backs up everything in IMG format, and then re-flashes it *in whole* in the event of a restore. so, short answer, no... you can't restore bits and pieces from a nandroid backup.
HOWEVER, Titanium Backup is my app of choice for backing up applications and app data (because no one should have to start over at angry birds!). The donate/Pro app is TOTALLY worth the few bucks, and it's very easy to use.
To use Titanium Backup: download from market (i really suggest the Pro version), click "Batch" then "backup user apps". When you start fresh with a new ROM, cancel all your active downloads, re-download Titanium Backup from the market and select batch>restore missing apps + app data. This way you restore the data associated with your apps, but not a previous ROMs system data. If you are unable to cancel your downloads, there is also a batch method to uninstall all backed up apps, that way you can make sure that you install your backup and not a "fresh" copy from the market.
A quick note about angry birds using Titanium Backup on GB -- with most GB ROMs, Angry Birds will install by default to the sdcard. They, however, will not run on the sdcard. As soon as you've done a restore using Titanium, just go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, and click Angry Birds and select "Move to Phone". Then you should be good
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thanks very much for such useful advice!
skribzy said:
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
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I have found that TitaniumPro doesn't always restore setting properly. Sometimes you have to go into the individual app and do a manual restore. I am not sure why this is, but just FYI.
mfratto said:
I have found that TitaniumPro doesn't always restore setting properly. Sometimes you have to go into the individual app and do a manual restore. I am not sure why this is, but just FYI.
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titanium CAN restore system settings / apps, but it's a little bit of a different process to make sure that you don't restore a previous ROM's data, which can cause some pretty serious instabilities if done improperly.
here are some How-Tos for using Titanium Backup: http://www.moddedlogic.com/pe/howto.php
these methods are a little more advanced, and if done improperly can cause instability. these methods can be used in conjunction with restoring "missing apps + app data" like i mentioned above.
skribzy said:
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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Its neither. Its both. You can't pluck ur call log txt ect data from a nandroid to my knowledge.
I'm new to this but I have the understanding a nandroid is a snapshot of EXACTLY everything you have on your phone, including txt, call log,ect. So as I'm sure you've read its always suggested to creat a nandroid of your original rom before installing a custom rom. Then u can go back in time if need be.
As for restoring your data after installing a new rom you need to backup your apps, I used super manager via smbk file, once you install the new rom go to market (or its pry saved in sd still) reinstall super manager and use the restore button to reinstall all your apps in one fell swoop.
Contacts, calendar, and email r on the google cloud so that will auto resync once u sign into your phone. I still lost my txt, call log, ect but I didn't care about that.
Now that u have your apps back and get a few settings confgured i decided to make a nandroid of my newly installed Rom just in case I F something up and can't figure out how to g back. With the new nandroid created I can revert back to my stock rom or modded rom annd all apps & data will be exactly how I left it.
Hope that helps.
Anyone plz feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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kmcgill88 said:
Its neither. Its both. You can't pluck ur call log txt ect data from a nandroid to my knowledge.
I'm new to this but I have the understanding a nandroid is a snapshot of EXACTLY everything you have on your phone, including txt, call log,ect. So as I'm sure you've read its always suggested to creat a nandroid of your original rom before installing a custom rom. Then u can go back in time if need be.
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It's *possible* but not easy. Nandroid is a **disk image** (.img file) backup, not a file-by-file backup/file dump. While it's *possible* to dissect it and flash bits and pieces, it would be quite advanced since it would have to be flashed using adb or a terminal emulator ...and even then i'm not sure it would actually work without running the full binary scripts from the recovery restore processes. And even if you did get the binaries to run and flash the .img files to the right places, you would run the possibility that the old data would be incompatible with your current ROM / system.
You can unpack the img file in linux if you know how and push pieces of it using adb shell, but that's still sort of going out of your way for something relatively simple. To unpack an .img file in linux:
# Make a directory where you want the file mounted:
sudo mkdir /image
# Then mount the image on the directory:
sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.img /image
# Then you could open the directory with nautilus:
nautilus /image
# When you're done, unmount the img:
sudo unmount /image
Nandroid is a backup of a STATE of your phone, not pieces. To backup apps and data, just use a program, there are a bunch out there. You can also do as I do and pull /system and /data from your phone and backup to your computer. You will need the android sdk though. Just connect via USB and make sure USB Debugging is enabled (settings>applications>development) and run in terminal:
cd [android sdk directory/platform-tools/]
adb devices
(make sure your device shows up)
adb pull /system [local directory]
adb pull /data [local directory]
voila. you now have copies of your /data and /system folders on your computer. you can even do your whole internal storage if you want and can create the proper permissions. however, as a caveat, these will not restore a broken system to stable state like a nandroid will, it's pretty much just for restoring individual apps if you lose them or delete something.
bottom line: nandroid is great for what it's intended for. outside of that, there are reasons why there are backup tools / apps for backing up pieces of your ROM. use them each for what they're intended and you'll be good. nandroid backup/restore is like 3 clicks. same for app restore programs. use the appropriate tools for the appropriate jobs and you'll be juuuuust fine.
EDIT: it's also possible to do an advanced nandroid restore of a certain partition, but it's *highly* advisable not to in almost all circumstances. it will most likely screw up more stuff than it fixes. it's really only helpful if the backup and your current ROM are the exact same.
for instance, if I have a nandroid backup of CM6, and i screw something up in my /data folder, and i'm still running the same version of CM6, then i could advanced nandroid my /data partition back in recovery. outside of that, it's pretty much useless and would do more harm than good.
Hi
I'm sorry to jump in in the discussion like this but reading this discussion confused me a little regarding a possible usage of a nandroid backup.
Given the fact that this type of backup is a full image of the system, can I transfer this backup on another motorola droid and restore it also on there? Or each nandroid is associated to a specific phone (even if the model is the same)?
Thank you so much!
No a nandroid wouldn't necessarily be phone specific.
But it would be OS specific.
There would likely be problems if you restored a CM6 rom (froyo) on a phone that still has eclair on it.
zeppelinrox said:
No a nandroid wouldn't necessarily be phone specific.
But it would be OS specific.
There would likely be problems if you restored a CM6 rom (froyo) on a phone that still has eclair on it.
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it's not necessarily "phone" specific, but it is *device* specific. you wouldn't be able to use a Droid nandroid on a Droid X, for instance. The md5 sum check would fail.
so yes, you would be able to restore a nandroid restore on a backup that you manually moved onto another phone, as long as the device was the same (moto droid to moto droid).
Hello,
I've been running Perception 10.1 for quite a while now. There's really nothing wrong with it, I guess I'm just bored. I'm thinking about putting CM7 on my phone.
Everytime I've changed ROMs in the past I've tried to do a NAND backup with Rom Manager and everytime I install the new ROM on there and then I do a NAND restore, none of the apps come over with it and I usually have problems and crashes. So, to me, CWM is basically worthless. I have made tons of backups and not one single one of them restored without errors and crashes. Worst program ever.
So, now I have bought the Pro version of Titanium Backup. I'd like to do a full backup so that way when I finish the flashing process to get my new ROM on there, I can just use that to restore all my apps and settings. I'd hate to have to go and download all my apps all over again, I have over 100 on there now.
What type of backup should I do with Titanium Backup so that migrating to a new ROM and restoring is as seamless as possible?
Thanks!
derek4484 said:
Hello,
I've been running Perception 10.1 for quite a while now. There's really nothing wrong with it, I guess I'm just bored. I'm thinking about putting CM7 on my phone.
Everytime I've changed ROMs in the past I've tried to do a NAND backup with Rom Manager and everytime I install the new ROM on there and then I do a NAND restore, none of the apps come over with it and I usually have problems and crashes. So, to me, CWM is basically worthless. I have made tons of backups and not one single one of them restored without errors and crashes. Worst program ever.
So, now I have bought the Pro version of Titanium Backup. I'd like to do a full backup so that way when I finish the flashing process to get my new ROM on there, I can just use that to restore all my apps and settings. I'd hate to have to go and download all my apps all over again, I have over 100 on there now.
What type of backup should I do with Titanium Backup so that migrating to a new ROM and restoring is as seamless as possible?
Thanks!
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Go on Backup & restore, open the menu and select batch.
Run: Backup all user apps + system data.
Once you restore although, don't restore system data as it will mess up with your new ROM.
BWolf56 said:
Go on Backup & restore, open the menu and select batch.
Run: Backup all user apps + system data.
Once you restore although, don't restore system data as it will mess up with your new ROM.
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Ok, thanks. Let me ask you a question then... You say to run the batch backup all user apps + system data, but only run the restore user apps. Why? Is there a difference between doing it your way, and just running the batch backup user apps, then doing the batch restore user apps? What is the purpose of backing up system data, if its not going to be restored? Just curious why to backup the system data if not restoring it. I think I have read somewhere else to not restore the system data on the new ROM cause it'll cheese it up.
Titanium Backup seems like a powerful program, although I havent been able to find any user manual or really anywhere that details what all the options do.
if going between different roms dont do all system data only the green ones and user apps. not all system data is compatible between different frameworks and options
create a label for "my sys data" and assign the green ones to it.
make sure to have tibu backup its settings as well in the settings menu.
derek4484 said:
Ok, thanks. Let me ask you a question then... You say to run the batch backup all user apps + system data, but only run the restore user apps. Why? Is there a difference between doing it your way, and just running the batch backup user apps, then doing the batch restore user apps? What is the purpose of backing up system data, if its not going to be restored? Just curious why to backup the system data if not restoring it. I think I have read somewhere else to not restore the system data on the new ROM cause it'll cheese it up.
Titanium Backup seems like a powerful program, although I havent been able to find any user manual or really anywhere that details what all the options do.
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Simply cause you want a full backup if u ever wanna go back to a certain ROM. Also, doing a full backup is safer, the program won't miss anything and when you restore your apps, you can restore your apps's data (which I personnaly love).
You don't have to backup your system data, I simply suggest it as you never know if you'll change your mind
I think backing up system data is just a precaution in case something goes wrong.
Trusselo said:
if going between different roms dont do all system data only the green ones and user apps.
create a label for "my sys data" and assign the green ones to it.
make sure to have tibu backup its settings as well in the settings menu.
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Trusselo, you're being too helpful lol - everywhere I try to help some1, you're right there doing so too
Love to see ppl with experience still helping the newbie with patience
Just back up user apps and data (also dialer storage for texts).
I never make full backups of my rom. Just Tibu backups for apps.
qwertyaas said:
Just back up user apps and data (also dialer storage for texts).
I never make full backups of my rom. Just Tibu backups for apps.
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@ OP - I believe it's up to you. Full backup is safer if something goes wrong but not necessary as mentionned by others. I do it cause I can
The only thing to remember, if that's what you decide to do, is to not restore system data if you flash a different ROM.
Ok, I got it. Thanks to you all.
For future reference, a NAND backup in CWM is not worthless, you are just using it wrong.
It is not meant to restore apps/data it is a complete image of your phone as it was when you took the backup. it is designed so that you can jump between roms easily by just restoring nandroids of your setups. it is not and dont think it was ever designed to 'restore apps' but restore the entire system. your problems before with it were likely because you were trying to go between 2.1 and 2.2 roms? a nandroid does not backup the kernel or modem so it makes it a little difficult to bounce between 2.1/2.2 etc there are ways, but its just easier to start fresh and restore a Titanium backup batch job
regarding Tibu and nandroid.
Full system / everything backup is good for backing up your system AS IS if you are going to mess around with what you have or try a rom for a few hours but want to go back to exactly how it was.
thats why the green ones are green in tibu its the bare minimum that will work across all roms.
@Bwolf56 - ya im on here alot. just finishing coming off comp for nearly taking my thumb right off.
i try to help. but get into crap often... still try to help regardless!
Something I've learned from flashing you can NEVER have too many backups.
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Hi,
I'm wondering how you guys are backing up your stuff? I recently went from stock to maverick rom but it took me 30min+ to get everything back to the way it was. There must be a better way?
Is there any fast way to backup/restore the following (e.g. with titanium backup):
- Restore homescreen (app shortcuts?)
- Android settings (display, ringtone, vibrate, keyboard etc.)
- Accounts (e-mail, exchange sync, etc)
- Phone numbers (yes I know you can import, but it's yet another step)
- Saved texts
Thanks!
DoubleYouPee said:
Hi,
I'm wondering how you guys are backing up your stuff? I recently went from stock to maverick rom but it took me 30min+ to get everything back to the way it was. There must be a better way?
Is there any fast way to backup/restore the following (e.g. with titanium backup):
- Restore homescreen (app shortcuts?)
- Android settings (display, ringtone, vibrate, keyboard etc.)
- Accounts (e-mail, exchange sync, etc)
- Phone numbers (yes I know you can import, but it's yet another step)
- Saved texts
Thanks!
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I only use TiBu for apps and data, but you might have problems restoring data between ROMs. Sorry I can't help ya.
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I've been using AppExtractor, it will restore apps data and system data from a nandroid. Well worth it, only 2 bucks.
eww245 said:
I've been using AppExtractor, it will restore apps data and system data from a nandroid. Well worth it, only 2 bucks.
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Well appdata isn't my problem as titanium backup handles that fine.
It's the things I mentioned in the first post.
You guys really go through all the menu's to change the settings everytime you install a new ROM? I can't believe that
DoubleYouPee said:
Well appdata isn't my problem as titanium backup handles that fine.
It's the things I mentioned in the first post.
You guys really go through all the menu's to change the settings everytime you install a new ROM? I can't believe that
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All day, erry day. Haha, yeah that's what I do. I don't install new ROMs very often, so it's completely fine with me. I just restore my apps and their data.
Bump.. will backing up mms.apk (using aosp sms) with titanium save all my texts?
I use TB for my apps/data. I use ADW/Ex so my home screen's restored when I do my apps
I use MyBackupPro for Call Log/SMS/MMS's
Email, i typically setup from scratch if jumping to a new base ROM (Moto Blur - CM7)
When just flashing a new version of same rom, i usually just backup and restore it with TB as well.
System settings, ringtones, and other misc stuff, haven't really found a good way to do that works consistantly.
DoubleYouPee said:
Bump.. will backing up mms.apk (using aosp sms) with titanium save all my texts?
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Specifically it is [SMS/MMS/APN]Dialer Storage, a reboot/hot boot is needed after restoring it.
eww245 said:
Specifically it is [SMS/MMS/APN]Dialer Storage, a reboot/hot boot is needed after restoring it.
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Thanks. Any more like these that would backup stuff? Guess all the green ones won't do harm
DoubleYouPee said:
Thanks. Any more like these that would backup stuff? Guess all the green ones won't do harm
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Contacts Storage is for the calllog not sure which of the other Contacts acutally resotore contacts but all four wont hurt as long as only data is restored for them. Anything WIFI can cause issue so I'd avoid that. Thats all I usually all I restore as far as system data.
Okai new question.. Everytime I restore I have to press INSTALL, then DONE. (just like when you normally install an app). I have to do this for ALL my apps ( so 50++ times). Surely this isn't normal?
Hit the menu button and select Batch. From there, you can select batch restore, and it will run on its own. Just be sure to comb through the list and deselect and apps you DON'T want restored, like Blur apps etc.
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DoubleYouPee said:
Okai new question.. Everytime I restore I have to press INSTALL, then DONE. (just like when you normally install an app). I have to do this for ALL my apps ( so 50++ times). Surely this isn't normal?
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That is true for the free version only.
jjhiza said:
Hit the menu button and select Batch. From there, you can select batch restore, and it will run on its own. Just be sure to comb through the list and deselect and apps you DON'T want restored, like Blur apps etc.
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I'm already using batch. It will automatically install all the apps, but I have to press install - done every time.
eww245 said:
That is true for the free version only.
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You mean purchasing the app will remove the prompt??
Most third party launchers will let you backup your home screen setups
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DoubleYouPee said:
You mean purchasing the app will remove the prompt??
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It might...that's why I mentioned batch restore, but I also have the Pro key, so it may very well disable the prompt.
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Can anyone with free titanium backup confirm this is not a problem?
Endoroid said:
Most third party launchers will let you backup your home screen setups
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Then why can't TB? The best one?
DoubleYouPee said:
Can anyone with free titanium backup confirm this is not a problem?
Then why can't TB? The best one?
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You're on CM9 right? TiBu should be able to backup Trebuchet or Nova (if you're using that), and you should be able to just restore your former setup from there. That's how I restored my Nova setup after a clean wipe for the latest CM9 build...
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jjhiza said:
You're on CM9 right? TiBu should be able to backup Trebuchet or Nova (if you're using that), and you should be able to just restore your former setup from there. That's how I restored my Nova setup after a clean wipe for the latest CM9 build...
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No I'm on maverick 2.0 + Stock blur homescreen
DoubleYouPee said:
Can anyone with free titanium backup confirm this is not a problem?
Then why can't TB? The best one?
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Launcher. Like adw or go launcher.
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