Bionic and ice cream sandwich - Motorola Droid Bionic

Beings that the bionic and almost every other phone has built in soft keys including the vigor which will be out soon, does anyone think any current phones will be getting an ICS update. ICS has the softkeys built into the screen like honeycomb. It would look a little funny with 2 sets of menu keys. Just seeing if anyone had any input on this issue
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I fully expect the Bionic to get ICS. In fact I'd be willing to bet it's one of the first non-nexus phones to recieve it. Being under the google umbrella is a good thing, which Motorola now is. As far as the buttons go, that's a software modification and I don't expect that to be much of a road block. Button remapping takes place all the time in custom kernels so the guys at Moto and or Google should be able to sort that out simple enough.

I was hoping so. It just seems one of the main ics features is no menu keys. I was just hoping it wouldn't have both
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ICS is being hailed as bringing tablets and phones together, so something as simple as disabling some on-screen menu buttons doesn't sound like something they would overlook.
Even if we ended up with some ****ed up version of ICS that made our phones have two rows of menu buttons, it wouldn't take longer than a day for the hackers here on XDA to figure out how to hide them.

Seems to me that our softkeys would work just fine w/ ICS... all the screengrabs I see have home, back, and multitasking buttons. Remap the menu key to be for multitasking, and you're set, with a bonus search key that duplicates whatever search function is integrated w/ ICS elsewhere.
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I think it kinda sucks that Samsung and Google are waiting on officially releasing ICS due to the passing of steve jobs. Yeah it can be respectful but that didnt stop apple from making money.

I doubt the Google acquisition will affect products in the pre-merger pipeline for a year. Short of layoffs, I've never seen a change in engineers assigned priorities right off the bat.
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CrazyGuyCD said:
I think it kinda sucks that Samsung and Google are waiting on officially releasing ICS due to the passing of steve jobs. Yeah it can be respectful but that didnt stop apple from making money.
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The release isn't pushed back, just the announcement.
And it was extremely classy in my opinion.
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mistawolfe said:
The release isn't pushed back, just the announcement.
And it was extremely classy in my opinion.
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Pretty sure no one gives two cents about your opinion
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Areghas quit trolling or get the hell out of here. All I have seen you do is try to start sh*t with droidth3ory or mistawolfe.
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areghas said:
Pretty sure no one gives two cents about your opinion
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Pretty sure your wrong.
We do not tolerate trolling here. Quit it or leave.
Last warning.
Back on topic please folks

I'm sure they have the ability to use the four keys just like 2.3.7 and below. I believe that they also said that it was the manufacturers choice when building phones and tablets which method they use back when they were first touring honeycomb on the XOOM. I'm sure that they won't give us two sets of keys and take up screen realestate.
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Thank you for all your responses.
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Nexus S will be the first phone to receive the update as far as previously sold phones without ICS. My Nexus S 4G has builtin soft keys as well. There's your answer

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[Q] will this phone have a big dev community?

Thinking bout getting the d3 and coming from the Inc I'm used to a big dev community so I'm wondering if the d3 will get one too once it has root
/Dinc
Definitely
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Definitely
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Well I got it and so far I'm happy just hope the community gets half as big as the Inc's was
/droid3
Many of the OG Droid owners are nearing phone renewal time so hopefully many of them pick the Droid 3. Of course there is a lot more out there now for android phones so some of them may leave for other phones. I'm someone who likes having the option of a physical keyboard so the Droid 3 was for me.
I think our major players are starting to emerge. But yes, a lot of D1 and D2 owners are coming up for renewal, and we are deathly loyal to our droids.
That, and being one of the few dual core phones, a world phone, and a physical keyboard give it MAJOR appeal.
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I think our major players are starting to emerge. But yes, a lot of D1 and D2 owners are coming up for renewal, and we are deathly loyal to our droids.
That, and being one of the few dual core phones, a world phone, and a physical keyboard give it MAJOR appeal.
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I seriously hope so this phone has so much potential!
/droid3
im hoping so too
I'm sure it will it just depends on on what they can do to the phone. And definitely if moto unlocks the bootloader. Then we have pretty much much have a overcharged 3g dominating phone. Especially if ChevyNo1 and peter Alfonso jumps aboard sorry for any misspellings in the dev names
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Hmm well at the very least, I for one am getting this device tomorrow to start experimenting with it which will mean camera image and video enhancements.
First thing I will do once rooted will be to tweak the bitrate values for images, video/audio and fix the white balance tolerance/default colour matrix.
Then including smaller resolution values as menu options, strange why they only added 8mp and 6mp options, I need 3mp for some situations.
I think the phone will be perfect with only a few modifications as i'm a fan of stock firmware.
-smc
I am planning on working on the Droid 3, I have tried to root, and am still trying, but all attempts have been unsuccessful as you can tell. I do not doubt root will be found for the Droid 3 at all though.
It seems like alot of good people are working on it so I don't doubt that we'll get it soon
/droid3
My faith lies within the community. I know well get this achieved!
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One thing about the DROID 3...

I have owned many, android devices across AT&T and Verizon, starting from the htc magic, samsung captivate, htc inspire, htc DROID incredible, samsung fascinate, htc tbolt, DROID 1, DROID 2, and lastly the Bionic before this DROID 3. I hold absolutely no candle when it comes to developing the android os, but when it comes to experience with hardware that's where the experience is. The droid 3 just seems to blow the bionic out of the water with absolutely no lag in screen transitions, app drawer, browser loading time, etc. Im having a hard time with this, and am wondering if Im alone here or is it a placebo type thing being that im using maverick 3.0?
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Do you buy all these phones at full retail?
Try golauncher or adw-ex, makes your phone feel so much faster
As far as the full retail goes, no. Only one I paid full price for was the inspire which I returned 3 days later.
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davwman said:
I have owned many, android devices across AT&T and Verizon, starting from the htc magic, samsung captivate, htc inspire, htc DROID incredible, samsung fascinate, htc tbolt, DROID 1, DROID 2, and lastly the Bionic before this DROID 3. I hold absolutely no candle when it comes to developing the android os, but when it comes to experience with hardware that's where the experience is. The droid 3 just seems to blow the bionic out of the water with absolutely no lag in screen transitions, app drawer, browser loading time, etc. Im having a hard time with this, and am wondering if Im alone here or is it a placebo type thing being that im using maverick 3.0?
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..so wait..let me get this right lol you're having a hard time cause your d3 is so good?
/Droid3
Trying to understand why the droid 3 with the same os version for the most part with practically the same hardware and a little older feels faster then the bionic
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..so wait..let me get this right lol you're having a hard time cause your d3 is so good?
/Droid3
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Yeah that's how I interpreted it lol. maveric is a damn good ROM, tho the stock experience is also really good IMO if a little jumpy.
-smc
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davwman said:
I have owned many, android devices across AT&T and Verizon, starting from the htc magic, samsung captivate, htc inspire, htc DROID incredible, samsung fascinate, htc tbolt, DROID 1, DROID 2, and lastly the Bionic before this DROID 3. I hold absolutely no candle when it comes to developing the android os, but when it comes to experience with hardware that's where the experience is. The droid 3 just seems to blow the bionic out of the water with absolutely no lag in screen transitions, app drawer, browser loading time, etc. Im having a hard time with this, and am wondering if Im alone here or is it a placebo type thing being that im using maverick 3.0?
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This part confused me big time
What's confusing?
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This part confused me big time
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it means that he feels weird or difficult to believe that the dorid 3 seems faster than a Bionic, being the bionic a better hardware...
@davwman
do you have the bionic too?
does it have roms as well?
???
Had the Bionic. It has a few roms, just didn't see the need to move to the Bionic after 3 days of use with it.
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Really? I have a Droid 3 and 3 others in my family have Bionics. All my Bionics are far better than Droid 3 for speed and performance. What all have you done to the Droid 3? The Bionics have double the RAM that Droid 3 has and that is a big deal actually. I am still a physical keyboard guy and I wanted an international phone as I do travel internationally once in a while. For those reasons I still like the Droid 3 but my Bionics are faster.
Technically speaking yes, the Bionic should be faster on paper. But as the saying goes the DROID 3 has that "seat of the pants" feeling of being overall alot smoother. Im not saying thus is the case for everyone, but in mine, the DROID 3 feels better.
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Ice cream sandwich

So I was wondering why its so important to get ics. As you can see I moved on to the Skyrocket from Samsung and Att. We got the leak a couple days ago. I must say, its nice to look at, but for someone who is familiar with the Android I really don't see anything amazing. Menus have changed and are easier to read, my phone was faster before ics. I don't know. I think gb with your mods are perfect.
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So I was wondering why its so important to get ics. As you can see I moved on to the Skyrocket from Samsung and Att. We got the leak a couple days ago. I must say, its nice to look at, but for someone who is familiar with the Android I really don't see anything amazing. Menus have changed and are easier to read, my phone was faster before ics. I don't know. I think gb with your mods are perfect.
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How technology is today once something bigger and better is released everybody (well almost everybody) wants to be able to have the bigger and better. So they strive to get the new product and once they do they feel accomplished and if need be they fix stuff here and there if they need too.
Gel Pen6 said:
How technology is today once something bigger and better is released everybody (well almost everybody) wants to be able to have the bigger and better. So they strive to get the new product and once they do they feel accomplished and if need be they fix stuff here and there if they need too.
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Indeed, and that's all it really is. I am like that with phones and with cell companies. I have a goal to stick with Att for 2 years.
I agree that with ics, anyone who is new to Android will have an easier time navigating menus and what not.
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amazing to me that the Thunderbolt gets ICS but not the Revolution....is that just because LG sucks with update support and HTC doesn't?
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amazing to me that the Thunderbolt gets ICS but not the Revolution....is that just because LG sucks with update support and HTC doesn't?
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I often wonder if its because this phone comes with bing. Maybe LG is in a contract with Microsoft and Google said "hell no you can't put bing in ICS!" So, we get left out
Just a thought.
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I often wonder if its because this phone comes with bing. Maybe LG is in a contract with Microsoft and Google said "hell no you can't put bing in ICS!" So, we get left out
Just a thought.
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You are probably right. What would it take to do the little mods? Menu appearance, layout, so that it gives you mock ics?
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markapowell said:
You are probably right. What would it take to do the little mods? Menu appearance, layout, so that it gives you mock ics?
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Probably just take time to re-theme stuff and need be mods.

[Q ] Rezound to Bionic.

So I recently shattered the screen on my Rezound
Thinking of getting a Bionic since Big Red has them for free. What do you guys think of the Bionic? Is development going strong? And do ICS ROMs exist? Are they stable enough to be a daily driver? Any input is welcomed
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If your warranty allows it, get another Rezound.
Development is not that active. Eclipse is the only active Gingerbread-base ROM available. Team Gummy & Hive Dev are doing ICS ROMs but since the locked bootloader of the Bionic prevents kernel changes, ICS is not 100% functional.
Well I have insurance on my Rezound but I don't have the $99 for the insurance claim and I have an upgrade on my plan now. Anything is better than the DX I'm using right now haha
Lol Hey Goku.
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I Am Marino said:
Lol Hey Goku.
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Lol hey. What're you doing in the Bionic forum???
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DbZ Gokuu said:
Lol hey. What're you doing in the Bionic forum???
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Bored, randomly surfing forums.
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projektorboy said:
If your warranty allows it, get another Rezound.
Development is not that active. Eclipse is the only active Gingerbread-base ROM available. Team Gummy & Hive Dev are doing ICS ROMs but since the locked bootloader of the Bionic prevents kernel changes, ICS is not 100% functional.
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I agree. I have the Bionic and my wife has the Rezound. I feel like I got the short end of the stick here.
You're better off to stay with the X and save up the insurance deductible, IMHO.
That being said, the Bionic ICS ROMs are nice, but they all have the silly camera issues. Those might not be resolved until an official Moto ICS is released. You can take pictures using the cameras, but no video, and no barcode scanners, etc.
Eclipse is a nice Gingerbread ROM. It's what I'm running now.
What if I could have both? Haha the upgrade is my moms, so it won't add time to my line. And later I can send the Rezound in to the insurance and get it fixed. Then I will have both. I don't see the downside in trading this DX for a Bionic for free. Because I cannot stand this phone after having my Rezound.
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I Am Marino said:
Bored, randomly surfing forums.
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What do you think Marino?
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I will chime in here and tell you im currently on my third bionic in a week and number 4 will be delivered tomorrow. I would STAY AWAY from this phone. If you do any web surfing from your phone you will have issues with this one. The bionic is known for data drop issues . But if you dont plan on using this phone for anything other then developement i would wait on the rezound .
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What do you think Marino?
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Probably stick with the Rezound, only phone I'd ditch my Rezound for currently is the Maxx.
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Personally I'm a big fan of the Bionic. I got mine on release day last September and haven't had any major problems in all that time. I'm rooted and stock, with about 45 bloatware apps frozen. Each time there's an update I just unfreeze, update and refreeze with TiBu. Works great. If you don't want to spend the money for another Rezound I say go for it.
Unfortunately this is no longer an option for me. My girlfriend decided it would be a good idea to dump gatorade on her uninsured Rhyme. So now the upgrade will be going to her. Looks like I'll just have to bite the bullet and make an insurance claim
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cbrown245 said:
I will chime in here and tell you im currently on my third bionic in a week and number 4 will be delivered tomorrow. I would STAY AWAY from this phone. If you do any web surfing from your phone you will have issues with this one. The bionic is known for data drop issues . But if you dont plan on using this phone for anything other then developement i would wait on the rezound .
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WTH do you do to your phones? I feel for you but this is an exception here. The majority of owners don't have issues as excessive as this.
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DbZ Gokuu said:
Unfortunately this is no longer an option for me. My girlfriend decided it would be a good idea to dump gatorade on her uninsured Rhyme. So now the upgrade will be going to her. Looks like I'll just have to bite the bullet and make an insurance claim
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I might have done that to a Rhyme too.
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I Am Marino said:
I might have done that to a Rhyme too.
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Might have? Lol
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cbrown245 said:
I will chime in here and tell you im currently on my third bionic in a week and number 4 will be delivered tomorrow. I would STAY AWAY from this phone. If you do any web surfing from your phone you will have issues with this one. The bionic is known for data drop issues . But if you dont plan on using this phone for anything other then developement i would wait on the rezound .
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I web surf on my phone daily without issue. I would not say what you experienced is common for other users.
Maybe you need to take a phone 101 class, or buy from a different seller.
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I web surf on my phone daily without issue. I would not say what you experienced is common for other users.
Maybe you need to take a phone 101 class, or buy from a different seller.
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Lol phone 101 class? ?? I get my phones from Verizon . I cant help the data drop issues ( which is a KNOWN issue with this phone ) do a google search on the data drops and you will clearly see its not just me. If it dont bother you that the data drops off multiple times a day and you are used to sub par performance and you dont mind paying for data droppage thats you but I personally want my phone to work . The 905 update is rolling out to try and fix the DATA DROP ISSUE. There you have your first phone 101 lesson.
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Motorola Atrix HD will get android 4.4?

I don't know if the future update we will receive is android 4.4 or a lower one(4.2 or 4.3) but at least there's something planned..
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Interesting, we all hoping to get anything the least. Skeevy already point this out last night. But thanks for making its own thread.
Me you I rename it though as it mislead.
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According to Droid Life, Motorola's KitKat-compatible phones include all versions of the Moto X, as well as new Droid phones like the Droid Ultra, the Droid Maxx, and the Droid Mini. Meanwhile, notable omissions include the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD.
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maiquito said:
I don't know if the future update we will receive is android 4.4 or a lower one(4.2 or 4.3) but at least there's something planned..
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In the mean time you can install the goodies from 4.4 from: here...
Tried it out and I love the knew sms integration with hangouts, group messages works perfect now.
They look good. Downloading some of them to test out.
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They don't work on my phone.
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Motorola (even in spite of being under Google's control now) will pull the same crap they did with the Atrix 4G and Photon: they'll keep saying "future plans" or "coming soon" or "we'll let you know" and then they'll just drop a bomb as they already did and say "if you want KitKat, go buy a candy bar or a new phone..."
Sad but more than likely true.
It really pisses me off since Google is pushing KitKat with marketing-speak that professes it runs great on non-top-tier hardware with as little as 512MB of RAM and a dual core processor, and yet with a device like the Atrix HD which covers that (dual core 1.5 GHz + 1GB of RAM) they'll just say "It's not gonna happen so get over it." I know in the long run it would be AT&T's decision whether to do it or not, but it's safe to say that no, we'll never see an official 4.4 update for the Atrix HD. Hell, I probably won't get one for my LG Optimus G either, which truly sucks.
/me hates it when companies do crap like that...
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Motorola (even in spite of being under Google's control now) will pull the same crap they did with the Atrix 4G and Photon: they'll keep saying "future plans" or "coming soon" or "we'll let you know" and then they'll just drop a bomb as they already did and say "if you want KitKat, go buy a candy bar or a new phone..."
Sad but more than likely true.
It really pisses me off since Google is pushing KitKat with marketing-speak that professes it runs great on non-top-tier hardware with as little as 512MB of RAM and a dual core processor, and yet with a device like the Atrix HD which covers that (dual core 1.5 GHz + 1GB of RAM) they'll just say "It's not gonna happen so get over it." I know in the long run it would be AT&T's decision whether to do it or not, but it's safe to say that no, we'll never see an official 4.4 update for the Atrix HD. Hell, I probably won't get one for my LG Optimus G either, which truly sucks.
/me hates it when companies do crap like that...
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Yea. Finally the decision is on At&t's side. But they should give us android 4.4. =]
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The decision has always been on att side. They suck at getting updates across.
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The decision has always been on att side. They suck at getting updates across.
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AT&T doesn't even factor into us getting stock better than 4.1.. We have more carriers than just AT&T, not many, but we do -- Atrix HD already has 4.1.2 stock, where AT&T Atrix HD is only 4.1.1. Also, rumor has it that AHD Bell is running 4.2....almost makes me want to flash Bell JB just to run a system update on it....almost. If someone does flash B 4.1.2 and gets an update, don't install it, notify us so it can be ripped and made into a rom first. Don't want to accidentally f**k yourself out of an unlocked bootloader.
Remember that as long as ANY device of the razr-msm8960 family gets better than 4.1, then all the other devices essentially get it.
I know I'm saying att personally sucks at updates as your post just confirmed lol.
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To be fair to AT&T, Motorola is/was just as bad. Look at the Bravo, Defy, Defy+, Milestone 2, and a few other similar phones, between the 4 the biggest differences are 3 different camera modules, a hardware keyboard, the below screen button layout, and maybe some slightly different sensors....Moto released the Defy+, which is the exact same as the Defy only clocked to 1ghz and had the red lens camera module (OG Defies had 5mp cameras, but some had a red lens module and the other green, Milestone had red 5mp, Bravo green 3mp).
Now on the custom scene, Bravo and Defy use the exact same sources other than camera and, I think, some proprietary lib differences. Milestone is the same other than the hardware keyboard additions, and maybe some more...been a while since I've messed with that platform.
Bravo latest is stock froyo 2.2.1 (there is a 2.2.2 model around)
Defy is froyo 2.2.2 (there is a leaked 2.3.4 GB)
Defy+ is GB 2.3.6
MS2 is GB 2.3.6
All these phones could have easily been updated by Motorola, but its easier to not update them and make us get new phones.
Stock Bravo is the worst stock experience ever, and my first Android. Four hours in and I was rooted and on a custom rom, BravoX.
They all run CM10.2 thanks to Quarx and many other talented devs.
What's funny is I bet ya that more than half of XDA's members are here because of the Manufacturer/Carrier release fiasco that always happens. If they didn't want us messing with our phones then they should give us something that doesn't completely suck, like our Stock ICS...Other than TB, governor type crap, etc I could use that without root any day of the week and be happy with it.
[QIf someone does flash B 4.1.2 and gets an update, don't install it, notify us so it can be ripped and made into a rom first. Don't want to accidentally f**k yourself out of an unlocked bootloader
Trying it out.
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[QIf someone does flash B 4.1.2 and gets an update, don't install it, notify us so it can be ripped and made into a rom first. Don't want to accidentally f**k yourself out of an unlocked bootloader
Trying it out.
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Any OTA or does it say none when you're on 4.1.2?
Got caught up with my six month old. I will try later. Sorry.
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No update from 4.1.2 on bell
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[QIf someone does flash B 4.1.2 and gets an update, don't install it, notify us so it can be ripped and made into a rom first. Don't want to accidentally f**k yourself out of an unlocked bootloader
Trying it out.
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No update
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Would like to atleast see a nice cyanogenmod android 4.4 version.
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maiquito said:
Would like to atleast see a nice cyanogenmod android 4.4 version.
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I'm almost willing to bet that it will happen so you wish has hope.
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Blackest Pain said:
I'm almost willing to bet that it will happen so you wish has hope.
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Yea but I wish something different not just the same. Because all cyanogenmod roms are the same look. I wish something at least noticeable different from the current one's.
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Yea but I wish something different not just the same. Because all cyanogenmod roms are the same look. I wish something at least noticeable different from the current one's.
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Totally agree. Don't get me wrong as I truly appreciate cyanogen team but what you have stated is exactly why I'm not a fan of their ROMs any more.
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