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Bionic vs vigor

How is the bionic treating u guy's ....im up in the air with this... cause i love my tbolt..but really wanted the bionic...but at the time it wasnt out so i got the tbolt cause i wanted to be grandfathered in the unlimited data plan...but now the bionic is out im thinking about it...but also rumors about the htc vigor a.k.a incredible HD is said to be out soon. So now im in a dilema..lmao.. I know the only difference between the 2 is generally is diffrent UI, diffrent screens and 1 ghz dual core and other has 1.5 dual core....But would like other ppl input. I know it's more on what's my personal preference, but would like some of u guy's input....... Thanks in advance
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I updated to the bionic from a thunderbolt and am very happy. I actually like the bionic screen better than the thunderbolts and the battery is
A little better. I really like the fact that I can see the display outside perfect. I am not sure if a am blind but I love the display and do not know why people complain about it. I bought the bionic thinking I would return it because I wanted the prime. I decided to keep it because it was the first phone I could use outside and see the display.
For what it is worth I will also be getting the prime when it comes out. I want to try it out and if I like it better the the bionic I will keep it.
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Love my Bionic as well, I really love the screen as said above. I couldn't see the thunderbolts display outdoors, I dont have that problem with the Bionic.
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The prime isn't coming to VZW and there's no official release date for the vigor. Get the bionic. You won't b disAppointed and you'll never keep up with technology anyway. Lol.
Some quad core 1080p display phone would drop right after you get the Vigor.
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bigsapz said:
The prime isn't coming to VZW and there's no official release date for the vigor. Get the bionic. You won't b disAppointed and you'll never keep up with technology anyway. Lol.
Some quad core 1080p display phone would drop right after you get the Vigor.
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I endorse most of this comment. You're asking us to compare a phone that is out to one that isn't. There is always going to be the next big thing...
I'd say it boils down to this- do you like HTC/sense or Moto/blur more? There is your answer.
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I got a Bionic to replace an ailing Charge with the intent to do exactly what you're describing and I very well may end up keeping it. I can't remember the last time I bought a phone and immediately formed the impression that this was a device that just might last the term of my contract.

I am coming from droid incredible.
I am planning to return my bionic right before the return window is up and wait for the Vigor.
I miss HTC sense wayyyy to much. I also dont like how when you pinch to zoom it doesnt auto fill text in the new window it just zooms in.
I can see diaplay outside which is nice but motorola just isnt for me. The zumocast hasnt worked so i cant comment about that except it doesnt work.
I think i was spoiled with HTC and Sense and dont like any other ui though.
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mistawolfe said:
I endorse most of this comment. You're asking us to compare a phone that is out to one that isn't. There is always going to be the next big thing...
I'd say it boils down to this- do you like HTC/sense or Moto/blur more? There is your answer.
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@mistawolfe....think u might have a good point....i never used Moto/blur.....the tbolt is my first android phone...right now it rooted and im not even running a sense rom on it...but i did like sense....but droidth3ory turned me over to ASOP Rom.....but i do like sense....maybe ill try it out and see if i like it. I have to buy it out right with no contract...can i return it if i dont like it in the 14 days even if i buy it out right?
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Coming from a tbolt it has been great. Screen, battery, & quality (of phone) are are better on bionic. Loved my D1, bolt failed me so was given bionic. I love that the extended battery doesn't add 3 lbs to phone. I'd love to get prime if/when that comes out for VZW, but who knows what will be out around christmas.
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sporty377 said:
@mistawolfe....think u might have a good point....i never used Moto/blur.....the tbolt is my first android phone...right now it rooted and im not even running a sense rom on it...but i did like sense....but droidth3ory turned me over to ASOP Rom.....but i do like sense....maybe ill try it out and see if i like it. I have to buy it out right with no contract...can i return it if i dont like it in the 14 days even if i buy it out right?
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I'm pretty sure the 14 days is standard regardless of how you buy it.
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Guess ill find out tomorrow ..lol
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I think the vigor will be the better phone, depends on how good the battery is. Everyone knows htc and their batteries.

buy it at bestbuy instead. they got a 30 day policy that aligns with verizon's 30 day cancellation

I love my bionic. Its the best phone i ever had. Very satisfied with it had a facinate before bionic

I love my Bionic.. I've used alot of droid phones but all were Motorola so I guess my opinion might be a bit biased but my brother likes HTC phones and I've used his here and there and I prefer Motorolas build quality over anything and the Bionic is fast and has good battery life... this may be the first phone to last the term of my contract ..
I say pull the trigger and see how you like it .. best advice you can honestly get ..
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bigsapz said:
The prime isn't coming to VZW and there's no official release date for the vigor. Get the bionic. You won't b disAppointed and you'll never keep up with technology anyway. Lol.
Some quad core 1080p display phone would drop right after you get the Vigor.
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I have a couple insider friends who 1 of which will be at the Sammy event this week. He states, "whoever said the Prime, or a form of it, isn't coming to Verizon is a complete moron". lol, I will put it this way, he has never been wrong, and a lot of the "leaked" shots that have come about from phones in the last 2 years have been him or someone he knew.

mistawolfe said:
I'm pretty sure the 14 days is standard regardless of how you buy it.
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If you buy it from Costco, you get 14 days to back out of the Verizon service (I might be wrong on this, could be 30), but 90 days to exchange the phone. I bought a Charge on July 3rd, exchanged it a few days later because I thought it was defective (turns out it just has a ****ty radio), and then exchanged it again for the Bionic a couple of weeks after it came out.

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I have a couple insider friends who 1 of which will be at the Sammy event this week. He states, "whoever said the Prime, or a form of it, isn't coming to Verizon is a complete moron". lol, I will put it this way, he has never been wrong, and a lot of the "leaked" shots that have come about from phones in the last 2 years have been him or someone he knew.
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Well your brother looks like the moron Until something official comes out saYing it's going to Verizon. So far only a GSM model had been talked about. No CDMA
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bigsapz said:
Well your brother looks like the moron Until something official comes out saYing it's going to Verizon. So far only a GSM model had been talked about. No CDMA
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You are wrong. It showed in the cellubrite systems. Familiar with black_man_x or p3droid? Black man works for google (formerly Verizon) and he confirmed it.
I'll bet you my paycheck. There are two versions. Read up more
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bigsapz said:
Well your brother looks like the moron Until something official comes out saYing it's going to Verizon. So far only a GSM model had been talked about. No CDMA
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I have seen at least 2 credible people say that it is coming to Verizon. One of those people seems to have a system dump of the Prime so it looks like you are still the moron.

using warranty to get another phone?

Hi guys,
Due to some charging issues I have, I decided im going to warranty out my phone. I remember reading some people managing to get a different phone through warranty.
whats your experience on this? When I worked for AT&T they usually never sent different phones unless the phone was extinct.
what do you guys think?

If you were with Verizon, no chance. You get a refurb of same model.

You have to have a few phones replaced before they will typically send you a different phone. I went through 5 Droid Erises then they sent me a Droid 2 but I.had to purchase the battery and back.cover myself.
While they don't commonly send you a different phone, it does occasionally happen. I am on Verizon.
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yeah with verizon they'll only give you a different model if they are out of stock on the one you have.... and they'll pick the replacement for you.
your only shot is to call customer care a few times reporting issues with your phone. after they"ve logged your calls("complaints") a few times then proceed telling them that you're ready to cancel service. at that point they should be willing to work something out with you.

Coming from the Fascinate, I recall some people getting the Incredible 2 or the Charge as a replacement for it.
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i tried this, and they offered me a charge
good luck

voxigenboy said:
yeah with verizon they'll only give you a different model if they are out of stock on the one you have.... and they'll pick the replacement for you.
your only shot is to call customer care a few times reporting issues with your phone. after they"ve logged your calls("complaints") a few times then proceed telling them that you're ready to cancel service. at that point they should be willing to work something out with you.
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Its kind of funny that you mentioned threatening to cancel your services. That's what I did to get them to send me the Droid 2 for my Droid Eris. Even after they originally agreed, they turned and canceled it once and then I really went off on them for trying to break their agreement.
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Cool_story_bro said:
i tried this, and they offered me a charge
good luck
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What exactly did you think they were going to offer you? Be happy they gave you another option. I had my Droid Eris for 9 months and went through 5 of them and had to threaten to cancel my contract to get them to give me a Droid 2 around the time they were releasing the Droid 2 global and already gave up on the Droid 2. They're not going to give you one of their top notch phones. If anyone thinks they will get a razr or nexus as a replacement, stop kidding yourself. Be happy they offered you the Charge and not the LG Revolution. The revolution is what I would expect them to give as a replacement, and I highly recommend avoiding the revolution even though it does have an unlocked bootloader. If you do get the revolution, you will see that having an unlocked bootloader isn't all what some people think it is.
If you want the Razr, I suggest waiting until the newer Razr comes out before using your warranty. Once that comes out, they may be willing to give you the razr as a replacement but right now that wont happen.
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Project: Droid 2 MOBO into Droid 1

I will be doing this in the next week. I have a droid 2 on the way and will be documenting the process. Droid 1 will be pulled apart first.
Update: Waiting on a tool kit I ordered from ebay.

Reserved...

Awesome
This sounds really cool. Keep up posted and let us now how your progress goes! Good luck!

Saw a thread on it which died off, and even though I believe ill lose the unlocked bootloader it still will be a worthy upgrade. Ill be swapping the camera and keyboard as well. First steps are pulling droid 1 motherboard.
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I'm interested in seeing how this turns out as well! I prefer the internals of the D2, but the externals of the D1
It is weird, because I like the way the D3 looks, but from what I've seen of the upcoming D4, it looks like another 'meh' design. Oh well...

Hardest part is pulling both phones apart. Slow and steady is what its going to take.
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davwman said:
Hardest part is pulling both phones apart. Slow and steady is what its going to take.
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Any progress on this? I was just thinking of doing this but I'm doing research on it.
iFixit seems like a great resource.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-Teardown/1436/1
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-2-Teardown/3502/1

Backed out. Ended up selling the droid 1 and have a droid 2 pulled apart right now because of broken screen. I may just part the whole thing.

davwman said:
Backed out. Ended up selling the droid 1 and have a droid 2 pulled apart right now because of broken screen. I may just part the whole thing.
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Hahah this seems to happen to everyone of these threads.

Yeah, it was going to be a fun little project, but so is learning guitar, taking care of my five month old daughter, going to work and moving into a new house.

Agreed, it's the type of project I'd like to do personally but would immediately disqualify as there are far better ones and I shouldn't complicate my phone-life anymore than it already is

If anyone needs parts I have brand new droid 2 parts minus the lcd.

Random reboots.

*no need to comment problem resolved thank you*
kinda pissed im on my third d3. 1st one random reboot problems sent it back got a refurbished one. 2nd one headphone jack stoped working. 3rd one refurbished once again. this 3rd one that i got came with a dead pixle yes annoying but i lived with it also sliding mechinism scratched the gloss yes annoying i lived with it random reboots ok problem. i know i can fix it but i dont feel like spending the time to do it. ive been at it since the original droid custom roms kernels all that fun stuff and i would like to start developing not there yet but im not an idiot. my plan is to call verizon and get a droid 4 but i havent decided if i want to yet the only problems i see with the d4 are no removable battery/locked bootloader/motoblur. locked bootloader could possibly eventually be unlocked who knows. so i can cross out bootloader i can deal. motoblur i can just run the .sh or something to remove the bloat an get a better rom. so cross off motoblur. no removable battery thoughts?
im not asking for help fixing it because i know i can and no its not as easy as an .sbf at this point.
i know my information isnt perfect but i had my original droid for what 3 years? one not 2 of them one, and that thing runs beautifully. unlocked bootloader/removable battery/sturdy heavy. why don't they make em like they used to? moto blur free
so excuse my grammar and such im kinda ranting cause of the time ive spent working on it and im kinda angry but now i need to decide if i should get the droid 4.
minus how to fix my droid 3 cause im going to but im ya LOL scatter brain
thoughts on non removable battery?
your opinions and thoughts are valued.
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If you're getting random reboots you may wanna try rooting and putting a custom bootstrap on there and wiping cache and delvik. Also there are some ROMs w\o Blur and you can choose between it or not. But the Blur isn't too bad at all once you get past the Verizon crap. I run Liberty and it's just Blur and Android, no Verizon crap except for My Verizon.

For the reboots, see if it still does it with no sd card in. I had read that there was a directory that could be causing it.
For the battery, do you carry a backup battery with you now? If not, who cares if you can take it out? My D1 I had multiple backup batteries, and I used them. My D3 I haven't had to use my backup yet, it is big enough to get me through the day, and the D4 has an even bigger one (course there's always the 4G to suck up all that power)
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My Droid 3 only reboots itself, if I leave it in Airplanemode for 8 hours or so. Then it reboots automatically. When not in Airplanemode it never reboots itself.
Maybe this helps?

thanks all its decided. im now getting my 4th refurbished droid 3. hopefully its not a pos again.

Im having the same issue lately. Ill try the suggestions here tonight when I get off work and let you know how it goes.

I'm upgrading from the Droid3, but this is the best built, most reliable phone I've ever owned. You guys must either be extremely hard on yours or extremely unlucky.
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UNLUCKY lol received my 4th refurbished one its perfect btw. i take care of my tech.

jellman said:
UNLUCKY lol received my 4th refurbished one its perfect btw. i take care of my tech.
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I got my Droid 3 about 5 or 6 months ago (if I'm remembering correctly) and I have yet to get a scratch anywhere besides the back of the screen (where the clips slide.) Now thats taking care of your technology, considering I use it all day, every day.

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I got my Droid 3 about 5 or 6 months ago (if I'm remembering correctly) and I have yet to get a scratch anywhere besides the back of the screen (where the clips slide.) Now thats taking care of your technology, considering I use it all day, every day.
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i take care of my tech but, im sure you do the best job in the whole world with yours better than everyone congratulations. i am not hard on my phones.

I used to have random reboots while on Liberty and Mav, none Steel or any CM9A5+, since then I have recovered to both without any reboots, not sure, but assume complete wipes/resets between GB and ICS resolved issue.
CM9A7
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Annoying logo on the front (Atrix HD) ...

Hey everyone,
I'm considering the Atrix HD as my next phone, but i can't stand how it has the AT&T log on the front like that. Does anyone have one that has tried removing it? if anyone has successfully removed it without damaging the appearance of the phone then I will definitely consider the Atrix HD. And please don't try to remove the logo for my sake and damage the appearance of your phone, this thread is just to see if anyone has already tried it on their own accord.
Thank you!

To my understanding, no you cant remove without damage. I have the Atrix 2 tho....
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I honestly don't see what the big deal is, it's just a logo. I have no issues with it and can't understand why so many people do. It's an amazing device, don't let a logo be the deciding factor.
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Headshots4life said:
I honestly don't see what the big deal is, it's just a logo. I have no issues with it and can't understand why so many people do. It's an amazing device, don't let a logo be the deciding factor.
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Agreed. I'm too busy looking at the screen, not slightly below it.
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Blackdrag said:
Hey everyone,
I'm considering the Atrix HD as my next phone, but i can't stand how it has the AT&T log on the front like that. Does anyone have one that has tried removing it? if anyone has successfully removed it without damaging the appearance of the phone then I will definitely consider the Atrix HD. And please don't try to remove the logo for my sake and damage the appearance of your phone, this thread is just to see if anyone has already tried it on their own accord.
Thank you!
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I have the Bell version and no logo on it. You can also turn off LTE on the Bell version. Are you thinking of buying it on contract or outright? If outright, look for one on the market place.

maddog497 said:
I have the Bell version and no logo on it. You can also turn off LTE on the Bell version. Are you thinking of buying it on contract or outright? If outright, look for one on the market place.
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I would be getting it as an upgrade on an AT&T contract. I don't see the practicality in getting it outright because it was way more expensive.
And I will get over the logo ... but another factor other than the logo I almost forgot is that the Motorola update schedule fails. I had probably vowed earlier the same day of starting this thread that I would never get a Motorola phone again because their lack of updating is outrageous. How many phones do they have on ICS? One? My Atrix 4G was supposed to get ICS right about now but they changed the schedule to more or less say its up in the air whether we will get the update at all. So no doubt the Atrix HD is an awesome phone, Motorola makes some nice devices but their update policy has shaken my loyalty.

Blackdrag said:
I would be getting it as an upgrade on an AT&T contract. I don't see the practicality in getting it outright because it was way more expensive.
And I will get over the logo ... but another factor other than the logo I almost forgot is that the Motorola update schedule fails. I had probably vowed earlier the same day of starting this thread that I would never get a Motorola phone again because their lack of updating is outrageous. How many phones do they have on ICS? One? My Atrix 4G was supposed to get ICS right about now but they changed the schedule to more or less say its up in the air whether we will get the update at all. So no doubt the Atrix HD is an awesome phone, Motorola makes some nice devices but their update policy has shaken my loyalty.
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They seem to want to update phones after 2011 according to an article I read. They stated that their devices will receive the jellybean update or they will give you $100 to put towards one of the recently announced phones such as the razr m.
Here's the link:
http://androinica.com/2012/09/motor...ers/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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I just bought an ATRIX HD on eBay that (according to the seller) has no logo on the front. Do u guys know anything about this?
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gabo_e30 said:
I just bought an ATRIX HD on eBay that (according to the seller) has no logo on the front. Do u guys know anything about this?
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Should be a seller-unlocked bell-version..

heifeif said:
Should be a seller-unlocked bell-version..
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its a display phone, very slightly used