Theory ROM 1.7 battery issue info - Motorola Droid Bionic

Hi All,
I'm a new registered user, so I can't put this in the developer forum yet.
I noticed a problem where I was losing battery power quickly, so I foudn a posting that said to do a "super" wipe. This was to one click recovery to stock, root, bootstrap, then boot into recovery to wipe cache, data, dalvik, format /system, wipe cache, data, install theory ROM 1.7. after clearing dalvik the second time, I threw in a "clear battery stats" for good measure.
What I noticed was this: prior to attempting any of this, the phone reported to be 96% to capacity and said it was "full" so it wouldn't charge any longer. After doing the sequence above, upon initial boot up, the battery was now reporting 88% and was charging again.
It would seem like the mechanism for reporting the battery usage is flawed in some way.

I am running a few days of testing but the calibration methods are to drain fully, and charge (while device is off) to 100%, unplug and before turning on, charge additional. Before my full charge read 95%, on 1.7. I did the above and now it read 100%.
From the beginning, here's how my battery life was:
Day one: full drain with performance mode, I received 8-9 hours. Used maybe 60 mins of voice, email sync w gmail and touchdown, sent about 100-150 texts. Watched 2 episodes of the community streaming from zumocast on 4g radio all day, used Pandora a few times.
Night one: night time saver mode, this is where I discovered my full charge was only 95. My night time mode activates at 10pm, my "full charge" completed at 7pm, used Pandora
On the ride to the gym, had minimal texts, email sync, twenty min phone call, 4g radio on. Went to bed at 10pm left phone idle, no charge. Woke up at 630am night time saver ends at 5am, device reported almost 12 hrs idle time, 40% battery left. Pandora to work, 4g only, synced mail, browsed YouTube, Facebook, no calls. phone full drained around 1140am. So almost 16-17 hrs on one charge, but the high light was 5 hrs from 40% battery... Last to note, I never turned off blue tooth.
Currently, after full charge 100%(not like previous 95) I'm at 1hr26 mins and at 85% bat...same usage, same battery mode
Ill get further results soon.
Update: now at 55%, 3:55hrs on track for about 8-9hrs ... Not using app killers to add or any battery apps. Problem seems sporadic but I'm going to try to run full battery to full drain on performance mode to optimize..in my past experience Droid 1 and Droid x, over time the battery adapts or the phone adapts to the battery usage ... Could be a myth or fantasy ...
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Thanks a bunch for the info. I am in the process of doing the full drain right now. Hopefully, it will show some results.
-Brian

Beefcake550 said:
Hi All,
I'm a new registered user, so I can't put this in the developer forum yet.
I noticed a problem where I was losing battery power quickly, so I foudn a posting that said to do a "super" wipe. This was to one click recovery to stock, root, bootstrap, then boot into recovery to wipe cache, data, dalvik, format /system, wipe cache, data, install theory ROM 1.7. after clearing dalvik the second time, I threw in a "clear battery stats" for good measure.
What I noticed was this: prior to attempting any of this, the phone reported to be 96% to capacity and said it was "full" so it wouldn't charge any longer. After doing the sequence above, upon initial boot up, the battery was now reporting 88% and was charging again.
It would seem like the mechanism for reporting the battery usage is flawed in some way.
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Our phones read fully-charged at 95 percent, but if you keep it plugged in it will get to 100 - it just takes a good while.

There's a trick to that. Yank the back back cover, pull the battery, and unplug the phone. Plug the phone back in and wait for the "missing battery" icon to show, then slide the battery back in. It will initially read 5%- wait for it to charge to full, which should take 10-15 min. Repeat this process until the status reads 100% charged within a few seconds of putting the battery back in. Reboot into CWM and wipe the battery stats (or use the battery calibration app that's on the marketplace, if you don't use CWM) and you should be seeing a batter that's not only noticably more accurate in its charge level, but also charges more completely, resulting in somewhat better longevity.
You want to drain it fully and let it charge back up fully at least once after this process for best results.

MillionManMosh said:
There's a trick to that. Yank the back back cover, pull the battery, and unplug the phone. Plug the phone back in and wait for the "missing battery" icon to show, then slide the battery back in. It will initially read 5%- wait for it to charge to full, which should take 10-15 min. Repeat this process until the status reads 100% charged within a few seconds of putting the battery back in. Reboot into CWM and wipe the battery stats (or use the battery calibration app that's on the marketplace, if you don't use CWM) and you should be seeing a batter that's not only noticably more accurate in its charge level, but also charges more completely, resulting in somewhat better longevity.
You want to drain it fully and let it charge back up fully at least once after this process for best results.
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This is a good trick, one I was taught by juhde. I used it on my x2 to great results.
However, I can't get it to read on my bionic. I get the '?' but nothing after I reinsert the battery.
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I find it only works when I unplug it and plug it back in just before inserting the battery. It sometimes also helps to hold down the power button for a few seconds with both the battery and charger out in between 'bumps'.

my fix
I have flashed every update since the first post and had battery issues starting around 1.5. After reading through the dev thread a bunch it seemed as the when performing wipes, they did not come out "clean" after one wipe. So I started at one wipe of each (factory reset, system, cache and dalvik) and the problem persisted. I then did 2 wipes of each, then 3 and 4. after 4 wipes of each all my issues had been resolved. not sure if it will work for everyone but it was the turning point for my device and might be a good starting point for anyone who is as annoyed as i was. good luck!!!!

Update:
Was able to repeat 17 hrs with custom settings: data off @30 min peak/off peak. Blue tooth was on the entire time, cell idle and Bluetooth were 30% consumption each.
Right now I'm in full performance on track to do 9.5 hrs. I've been playing Pandora for an hour every other hour, and did not kill its process.
I think the most practical usage is to cut data when not used for 30 min, I couldn't imagine anyone on their phone doing multiple things for 8+ hrs STRAIGHT. I'm running unleashed 1.7, no radio problems and no slow downs.
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My brother has been getting twice the battery life that I am getting. The only difference is I have rom installed, and he just debloated. I have a switch out extended battery coming from Verizon and if that doesn't work I may just drop back to stock debloated.
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I'm at 10hrs 11 min running performance mode, Bluetooth had been on all day. Cell idle 32%, blue tooth 30%, phone idle 25%, display 7% consumption. No data sync interrupts.
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efingguy said:
I'm at 10hrs 11 min running performance mode, Bluetooth had been on all day. Cell idle 32%, blue tooth 30%, phone idle 25%, display 7% consumption. No data sync interrupts.
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And your battery is drained? Or at a certain percentage?
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I think I have a faulty battery, I can't last 5 hours on a battery anymore. I'm going to go to VZW and see if I can pickup a spare and test that one.

This rom has absolutely nothing going for it. v1.7 and $6 will get you a cup of coffee from Starbucks. I have never flashed to stock as quickly as I did with this rom, since my first smart phone. Is this guy/team the only Dev with a Bionic??
Downloading/flashing on the fly (streamlined) is great however, what are we going to flash folks? 1.8??
Yes I know theory is only playing the hand he was delt but its clearly time to fold.
This makes me nervous.
For the issue regarding battery life..flash back to stock. Wait for the next developer.

volcomguyaz said:
This rom has absolutely nothing going for it. v1.7 and $6 will get you a cup of coffee from Starbucks. I have never flashed to stock as quickly as I did with this rom, since my first smart phone. Is this guy/team the only Dev with a Bionic??
Downloading/flashing on the fly (streamlined) is great however, what are we going to flash folks? 1.8??
Yes I know theory is only playing the hand he was delt but its clearly time to fold.
This makes me nervous.
For the issue regarding battery life..flash back to stock. Wait for the next developer.
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Yeah? And what was the issue you had? ANY ROM you flash will nuke the battery stats and need to be recalibrated. Simple as that.
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kredlash said:
And your battery is drained? Or at a certain percentage?
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Sorry, yes it was at 5% when posted that, and that was right before my car ride with Pandora playing through Bluetooth.
The end time was 10hrs 35mins.
Since then, I have done a 4x complete wipe, cleared previous traces of unthrottle and flashed 1.7 again, disabled automatic restore apps while synching with google. I used the battery calibration app from the market this morning and have set custom battery management to turn data off every 15 mins of non use. This is practical since the power boost script shortens the time to speed up, so data on/off shouldn't affect performance. I'll update at the end of the work day. Currently at:
85%
1Hr 21mins
Maps 43% consumption (I'm adding GPS on all day in addition to blue tooth all day)
Cell idle 19%
Blue tooth 18%
Phone idle 14%
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I just want to add, I'm absolutely loving this ROM. I would advise to check your steps if you are experiencing problems, and as always, keep in mind that its an ongoing development.
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efingguy said:
I just want to add, I'm absolutely loving this ROM. I would advise to check your steps if you are experiencing problems, and as always, keep in mind that its an ongoing development.
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By your justification you are not getting normal/average battery life.
You are disabling data and your cellphone when not in use just to get close to average.
My battery drain has been pretty bad.
I have done all required steps (multiple times) but it still seems like the phone is just flushing the battery out of it.
The best life i have gotten is when (the other day) I was working from home and completely forgot about my phone.
I left it unplugged and after about 8 hours (of literally ZERO use no WIFI) the battery was at around 36%
Its like its pumping it out at full blast no matter what.
Note: I have all powerboost mods installed.

I just flashed back to stock, have the same apps and still getting the same battery life. I am actually getting more network disconnects for some reason, however common sense says that has nothing to do with stock rom or DT rom. Its a driver issue that will be getting resolved in Nov (hopefully) . Flashing back to my sexy DT rom tonight, with a full wipe.
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jblade said:
By your justification you are not getting normal/average battery life.
You are disabling data and your cellphone when not in use just to get close to average.
My battery drain has been pretty bad.
I have done all required steps (multiple times) but it still seems like the phone is just flushing the battery out of it.
The best life i have gotten is when (the other day) I was working from home and completely forgot about my phone.
I left it unplugged and after about 8 hours (of literally ZERO use no WIFI) the battery was at around 36%
Its like its pumping it out at full blast no matter what.
Note: I have all powerboost mods installed.
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I don't really understand what people are trying to solve.
Your problem is you left your phone on performance mode and it drained your battery. That's like leaving you car lights on and expecting it not to drain the battery. I'm exhibiting extreme heavy usage vs normal practical usage and how the ROM does *not* affect it negatively relative to your daily usage of the phone.
In my normal day, I would not have bluetooth running all day, which from my above data consistently drains 30% of the battery. Bluetooth is only used when I'm in my car which it connects to the car audio for phone and music. In my normal work day, I would not have GPS running all day, which from my recent post is draining 43% of the battery. In a normal week, I would only need to use GPS to find a unique restaurant that maybe I haven't been to or in an area I am not familiar. The main point for the contribution in this "battery investigation" is that I am not experiencing any radio loss, connection failure, or system lag by having Data shut off.
I really do not see the occassion that anyone would ever use their phone heavily for 20+ hours straight. Or even more than a movie's length straight. I could think of possible arguement points such as hiking and needing it to last for saftey/emergencies -- but why would you have it full blast on performance? Long car rides -- but if you are doing an 8+ hour drive, don't you plan on having a car charger? I just don't get what people's frustrations are. I do understand the problem that people's battery tick abnormally which is a fault of either the device, a defective battery, or lack of following directions when using the ROM. Again, the ROM is a development, and no one is forcing you to use it. It is actually quite nice to test, run into a problem, report it and have it fixed within days/weeks instead of months or never like the stock.
I guess I've rambled into a rant, but I'm merely providing my own experience in details so that people have a general feel of how the battery is and if my usage is similar to theirs.
I'm not claiming to have average/above average battery life, I'm justifying that this has not affected my daily use of the phone for everything that I use it for (being connected to work, being socially connected, and games/movies/music).

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Display + Battery level

Hello,
I recently got my nexus, and rooted only two days after receiving it. I installed cyanogen's latest. I am getting low battery; in only 5 or so minutes, the percentage goes down by at least 2 percent (while using). I looked to see what may have been draining the battery, and found that the display alone was using 62% to 75% of my battery. I tried undervolting, but the display seemed to still be in the same draining range...
Is this a hardware related problem, or is this a common nexus thing?
ywindlass said:
Hello,
I recently got my nexus, and rooted only two days after receiving it. I installed cyanogen's latest. I am getting low battery; in only 5 or so minutes, the percentage goes down by at least 2 percent (while using). I looked to see what may have been draining the battery, and found that the display alone was using 62% to 75% of my battery. I tried undervolting, but the display seemed to still be in the same draining range...
Is this a hardware related problem, or is this a common nexus thing?
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same here, really starting to piss me off when i see people talking about 70% battery at the end of the day while my phone dies in 6 hours
Cyan?
Woah, I think this might actually be cyan's Rom.
I flash enomther's rom and i got display percentage at around 15-16% ...
I think cyan will look into this soon enough...
But for now... I guess I'm gonna wipe... :/ and stick to enom's or some other ROM...
ywindlass said:
Woah, I think this might actually be cyan's Rom.
I flash enomther's rom and i got display percentage at around 15-16% ...
I think cyan will look into this soon enough...
But for now... I guess I'm gonna wipe... :/ and stick to enom's or some other ROM...
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C´mon....see my signature!
More than 10h now, Wifi on all the time -> 70% battery
This is not that bad
rori1 said:
C´mon....see my signature!
More than 10h now, Wifi on all the time -> 70% battery
This is not that bad
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I think the problem is only with a few people, but I know others are experiencing this. This might be something with the "latest" nexi. But idk, it's a mutual issue, a fix should be coming
Probably you are right...
But, I would like to know, what settings peolple use: like updating wheater every hour, emails, widgets,..ham many apps are running and so on, ... perhaps connected to...sometimes people dont even know that
Edit: I got my Nex in january.
The change in the display usage percentage is just due to the way the powermanager works. Its not using more battery, its just displaying how much power it is using more accurately.
have the same problem.
100% airplane mode ON no WIFI, in 5 hours 72% battery remains . (PHONE IDLE took most of this - my G1 could go 1 month with this settings)
IN 12 hours in was 6% and with LOW use of my N1.
Yesterday I removed numbers in my battery and it was a litle better, not much but a little. (about 8% better)
I had 5.0.5.1, 2 and 3 and everyone had the same problem!
CM please take a look at this. What do you need any LOG info or something!
Have you tried wiping battery stats, then charging to 100% with it off, then booting into recovery and wiping battery stats again, then charging to 100%? The few times I've had battery issues that's taken care of it for me.
I flashed cyan again with a wipe (again), but got the same thing.
On enom's rom, I get beastly battery. I think we just have to wait for a fix for the people who are affected.
danguyf said:
Have you tried wiping battery stats, then charging to 100% with it off, then booting into recovery and wiping battery stats again, then charging to 100%? The few times I've had battery issues that's taken care of it for me.
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Do you need root to wipe battery stats? how do you do it?
Well I did the wipe battery about 3 times and in OS it was already green light 93% full.
I WIPED and put the power in on NON POWERED PHONE. It took 1 hour more to come to the green light . than I wiped again and went to boot up.
at 11PM i had 100% battery went into airplane mode wifi OFF.
And i did one other thing. Some of you had the battery drain issue with trackball wake. So I disable it.
7 hours of this and I got 97% - beautiful
before that I had 72% so there is a difference.
Now I have to see if the wakeup trackball is the cause of this or the wiping the battery stats.
Will eliminate one and other and keep you posted
I took my phone off the charger at 4:30am and the next day at 5:30 am i had 12% battery left. i used my phone a total of 3 times. most of the time it was on standby. i have setcpu with my phone UV and UC to try to save battery with profiles set up. in battery information 85% of the phones battery went to cell standby. Any suggestions on how to improve this?
Try wakeup trackball OFF in spare parts and battery % OFF in upper taskbar.
I have now from 100% to 59% in 7 hours. wifi ON all the time.
I have tried to wipe battery settings and charge fully with the phone off, but after the full procedure, I still get the same end result. I attached a picture of my battery usage.
Im pretty sure i saw a post online about the newer nexus's that were released having a better display. If this is true then wouldn't the phone's hardware alone be using more battery?
I can confirm I am having the same problem. I wasn't sure until I checked battery usage overnight. It used to be that with my phone on airplane mode I would use about 2% while I slept. Now, it's 9 or 10% with "Phone Idle" taking the lion's share of it.
I have tried deleting batterystats.bin after a full charge; powering off (while on charger); charging up to full again, but this has not solved the problem.
A few notes:
When the phone is idle (but not in airplane mode) it uses about 1.5% per hour (compared to about 1.1% in airplane mode)
I am using setcpu profiles to keep cpu usage right down when idle
Around the same time I upgraded to 5.0.5.3 I also started using the himem version of fastboot. And yes, if you suspect I don't know what I'm talking about here, you are quite right
For my next trick, I will try resetting battery statistics via recovery. What fun!
I've kept the cyan rom, and changed some settings to increase battery life. I turned off the battery percentage icon, and turned off the trackball to wake. I still got that the display was using a lot, but the battery still lasted pretty good. I guess there isn't too big of a problem on my side. It probably is the "newer displays" on the "newer" nexi. Maybe there really isnt a big problem
I changed now from CM to Enomther's TheOfficial Nexus1 1.8.1 and battery now works great.
I unplugged the charger at 12.00 am at midnight and with quite good use, not extremely havey but a good use I had 30% battery left at 20:00 (08:00PM) that day.
I lost only 2% from midnight to 7:00AM in my airplane mode and with Gmail check 10 min of phone calls wifi ON all the time checking web pages and showing off my live wallpapper at my work I had at noon (12.00PM) 70% battery left!
I LIKE IT!
now I'm thinking to push Kernel - .32 & .33 to see if there is any change with my battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653598
After resetting battery stats in recovery, I still lost about 10% overnight while on airplane mode.
For my next trick, I'll use a task killer like "Process Manager"* to keep everything unnecessary switched off overnight. Maybe I'll be able to narrow it down to an application if it's not something integral to the actual ROM.
*Yes, I know it will use up the battery too

[Q] Battery drain issue?

Hey everyone,
I'm not sure if I have an issue with a defective Captivate or if it running as intended. That's why I've come to you guys for some insight.
Here's my scenario:
A few days ago, I decided to leave my Captivate off of the charger overnight to see how much battery I would awaken with. It was just a little experiment I thought of to see how much the battery drains while not having anything intensive to do (such as power a screen). I fully charged the Captivate to 100% before setting it on my desk and going to bed. As normally, everything was turned off except wi-fi. When I awoken the next day (8 hours of sleeping), to my surprise, my battery was down to 27%. I was shocked that something could have drained almost 70% of my battery overnight. I downloaded an app called Spare Parts as a recommendation by some people and I seen "Running 100%" which means that the phone spent no time sleeping. When I look at any partial wakelocks, it showed "Android System" as a full bar. I assume that it could be a bad app that was keeping my phone from sleeping.
I restarted the phone, battery pulled, charged up and uninstalled some apps. Everything seemed back to normal as when I checked the the running %, it was proportionate to how often I was using the phone (not at 100%). I specifically checked if the phone was sleeping and it was through some monitoring. I would use the phone for 1 minute and then let it sleep for 2 minutes and you could see that the running % went down, as it is suppose to.
I kept monitoring the running % over the course of the day and it was fine. The less I used it, the lower the % would go; the more I used it, the higher. I also monitored what kind of apps I was firing up and I specifically made it an effort to not open any apps that were out of the ordinary. If I did, I checked to see if it kept my phone from sleeping and it did not (through my same usage tests as above). However, even after my close monitoring, sometime during that day, my phone would stop sleeping once again. I could tell because my running % never lowered, no matter how long I didn't use my phone. It would keep climbing which means it no longer slept. I made sure that I didn't do anything out of the ordinary too as I used the same apps as I did when the phone was sleeping fine. I checked "Android System" and it was getting larger. The battery was around 80%.
I charged up the phone again to max and made sure that nothing was preventing my phone from sleeping. Did the tests again and running % was proportionate again and I double and tripled checked to make sure the phone slept. I then left the phone not charging again to see what would happen as I would have no interactions with the phone to open any apps or change any settings. To my surprise, my battery was down to 60% (~ 6 hours of sleeping) when I awoke. I checked the running % immediately in the morning and it was at a very high percentage. "Android System", once again, dominated the partial wakelock portion.
So what's going on here? It doesn't actually seem like I'm doing anything on the user end to prevent the phone from sleeping. How come it decides to act up all of a sudden? If it was a bad app, how come it decides to prevent sleeping all of a sudden and not before? Even if it was a bad app, I didn't even launch anything while sleeping. Does the phone decide all of a sudden to stop sleeping?
The apps I use are:
Tasker
Y5 Battery Saver
Launcher Pro Plus
Twitter
SwiftKey
NHL Gamecenter
Handcent SMS
doubleTwist
Dropbox
Does anyone have the same problem?
Any help is appreciated.
Get rid of any task killers and battery savers they do more harm then good and most developers recommend not using them, they cause battery drain. The only battery app I use is Juicedefender because it keeps the phone from connecting constantly and keeps apps from running in the backround. I set it to connect every 15 min for 1 minute to sync, I turned off all notifications because they annoy me and I don't need to be notified everytime I get an e-mail or someone posts on Twitter or FB. My battery life has improved greatly once I dumped task killer. Also, I am running a Froyo mod and my battery is amazing now and my GPS works.
If you are in an area with a weak signal this will kill your battery because your phone is constantly searching for a signal and trying to connect. Also turn off wifi if you are not near wifi this will save battery.
Also try calibrating your battery and bump charge it. Here is a link for that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765656
The battery will improve, mine got better after a few weeks of break in. I am at 60% been unplugged since 10 am and I made plenty of calls, checked e-mails, sent e-mails, checked XDA developement all day and I have plenty of juice.
Good infos. O agree with not using task killer
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Hmm, thanks for the tips but there still seems to be something lingering around in my system that doesn't allow the phone to sleep. It seems to activate all of a sudden as well without user intervention.
I again left it overnight and it drained again when I woke up. I lose significant battery overnight when I sleep. I'm thinking about just restoring to factory settings. I've only had the phone for a week so I wouldn't lose that much data. I'll monitor it from the onset once I factory reset it and see if it's a hardware defect or something that was bad in my phone.
Do you have a live wallpaper installed? Also, do you have a bunch of Widgets on your homescreen? Are you constantly synching with e mail, FB, etc? No doubt something is running all night. It's not the phone, it's something you have installed. I set mine to sleep with Juice defender at night so nothing syncs. Check your wireless bill to see how much data is being sent while you sleep. Why not charge your phone while you sleep?
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Nope, no live wallpapers and the only widgets I have on my home screen are the LauncherPro Plus widgets, Smooth Calendar and BattStatt. The only syncing I have going on is Google Calendar and Gmail but both of those shouldn't cause the phone to not sleep.
I was thinking of using Juice Defender but I would rather just get to the root of whatever app is preventing my phone from sleeping and kill it at the root instead of finding workarounds. For all I know, my phone may not be sleeping not just overnight, but with normal use as well and it would adversely affect battery life throughout daily use. I need the piece of mind that my phone is properly sleeping.
And I have no issues with charging while I sleep, but again, I need to find the root cause. If for whatever reason I'm can't access a charger overnight in the future (such as if I sleep over at my gf's house), I want to know that I won't wake up with a dead battery in the morning.
I really appreciate the help though.
As for what I decided to do next, I actually factory restored my phone yesterday morning and so far it is working well. I did not download any apps at all to make sure that this problem didn't persist with a stock phone. If it did, I would know that it's a phone defect and not something I did. Throughout the next week, I'll be installing different apps one by one to see any one of those apps will cause my phone to not sleep. This will allow me to isolate the app. It's long and tedious, but I would go through it for better battery life. So far, it's been working as I'm already through 10 hours on my phone with moderate use and it's only at 50%. Whatever was destroying my battery before absolutely had an effect on my daily battery life as I would struggle to even get 10 hours on my phone with moderate use.
Same Here
I find your post very interesting. I have not yet used Juice defender, however, I am now more keen to battery drainage. I talked on the phone for about an hour the other day and my battery went from 100% to 40%. I find this unacceptable for a phone. Imagine taking conf. calls and conducting business in the field throughout the day. My battery would be dead in two hours without checking email
I hope you can reveal your findings to help us all.
Regards,
JROCK
Battery problem fixed using the simple technique similar to the one shared back in this thread.
I used to lose 10% per hour (or there abouts) and by 5 or 6pm needed to go on charger. At the very best with no use it dropped 3-5% in an hour.
Now its all changed...
After being off the charger for 35 min and taken 2 calls and sent a couple of txts she still read 100%.
At 5hrs 17min off the charger it is at 81% and there has been 6 calls in total and about 9 txts, plus a couple of appointments added.
Here is what they said to do and it worked...
1. Charge the phone for 8 hours, but make sure it is turned on while charging.
2. Unplug the phone, turn it off, plug it back in for 1 hour.
3. Unplug it, turn it back on for 2 minutes, then plug it back in for 1 hr.
Then unplug and enjoy the new battery life
Sounds too easy to work, but bugger me, it did!
27% is clearly abnormal.
Sometimes, I put the phone on it's charger after a pull day only using 27%.
I read somewhere on XDA that some early phones had defective screens that would only shut the backlight off and not turn off completely. Don't remember what came of that thread though.
I have a battery drain issue as well. My Captivate is 2 days old and been charging it every night. The first charge was done via the computer while transferring music over. After moderate usage (1 hour of music, browsing apps, learning how to use the phone, etc.), the battery died after 10 hours. GPS, and bluetooth was turned off. WiFi was used for maybe 20 minutes. When I got home, I charged it overnight for around 10 hours.
Today, the phone died on me after 9 hours. I rooted via z4root and applied RyanZa's latest OneClickLagFix, which both apps can be found on the market. Before that time, the battery said there was about 80% remaining. Fast forward to 6 hours later and the battery is gone. Again, moderate usage.
According to *#*#4636#*#*, my Screen On is at around 60%. A few other bars are pretty high as well, but I'm not sure how to do a screenshot on the Captivate right now. The only method I found requires using a PC. Plus, my battery is dead meaning I have to charge it overnight again.
I had an issue for the last couple of days, just figured it out earlier today. I had a corrupt thumbnail file on the external SD so my android.process.media (something like that) was constantly running.
I first realized something was wrong before I determined the battery life was bad when I noticed that my CPU was constantly at 11470-1200mhz or 975-1000 when I disabled the OC.
Unmounting the card would allow the CPU to drop to under 200 at idle so I knew it had something to do with the external SD. Turned out there was a bad file under a DCIM (camera folder), so after I deleted it, it became smooth as silk!
Of course it's still an i9000 rom so battery life is still questionable
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According to *#*#4636#*#*, my Screen On is at around 60%. A few other bars are pretty high as well, but I'm not sure how to do a screenshot on the Captivate right now. The only method I found requires using a PC. Plus, my battery is dead meaning I have to charge it overnight again.
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Sorry for the hijack!
Here are yesterday's results:
Does these results look normal to you? I'm particularly concerned about the Social Hub and screen, and running. They're all higher than I expected. The brightness of the screen is set pretty low, maybe 2/10 of the brightness bar. As for Social Hub, well all I got is the Facebook widget, which is set to sync every 4 hours. Other kinds of syncing is off. GPS is off too. I don't have any battery saving type of apps yet, except for RyanZa's OCLF which includes the WiFi timeout.
I ended up charging the phone at 5% battery left. I had to sleep!

[Q] YABPT (Yet another battery problem thread)

I have had battery problems plague me for the last month, regardless of flashing, reverting to stock etc.
The following data is compared to my friends captivate, who is running the same setup as I am Continuum 3.11 and Speedmod k13c. He currently gets at least 24 hours on a full charge (thats WITH gaming and calls etc.). I can barely scrape 10 on minimum use.
At first I thought it was a rogue app that was constantly draining, but unfortunately it was not (after several trials and monitoring apps).
Next, i tried reflashing, Master clearing + flash from stock, flash at 100% charge, but still nothing.
Next thing I tried was to see if it was my battery was faulty (doubted it because it was new from original phone. Only had it for 2 months) by swapping batteries with my friends Captivate (also original battery). I concluded that this was not the problem since he was getting great battery life (if not better since mine is newer) and I was still draining.
After, I tried battery stats wiping, recalibration (bump charging) flash to stock and flash to a rom with reportedly good battery, with k13C speedmod. Still bad results.
So heres my current situation: I am running Continuum 3.11 with speedmod k13c. I have tried almost everything in my arsenal and googling but I have come back empty handed. It is NOT the battery, rogue app draining OR rom/kernal. I am completely stumped.
Heres a summary/extra details of my trials:
-Flash to stock and try again
-change batteries
-wipe stats, drain and recharge, charge for 8 hours, bump charge (recalibration), flash from 100%, master clearing etc.
- setting brightness to lowest, wifi off, plane mode when turning back on
- being anal and not installing new apps / using what rom came with
- My phone remains ice cold on standby. I know that when it gets hot, it drains (during standby and etc. but this time its ice cold)
- Here is some data: In one hour of minimal use (checking texts, replying etc.) I lose 10%. overnight I lose around 20%. In a heavy usage, 4 hours.
(note : I know that some of you might consider that barely passable battery life, but if I directly compare to the set up of my friend, its not right since in heavy usage he gets about 12 hours, which is my max per charge on minimal use)
Im hoping someone can help me with this problem, because I believe that this problem is plaguing other peoples phones as well, not just mine.
REFERENCE THREADS THAT I HAVE LOOKED AT:
This one
And this one of course
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I recently swapped batteries again with my friend, because I recall fixing it at one point, but I had to reflash it due to a bug or something, i dont remember. But when we swapped batteries and swapped back, I seem to have fixed it. This leads me to believe that My phone right now has no idea where 100% actually is and its only charging to some random % that is NOT 100% .
This time, I swapped with him when he had 47 percent, and I had 87. After we swapped, we immediately checked the percentages. To my surprise, his 47% on my phone immediately turned to 23% But strangely, that 23% remained (the charge on 23 seemed to be holding for quite a while). But when I recharge, it charges WAY too fast (10 minutes of charging = 40% in total from 23%? B.S.!!!)
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This time, I swapped with him when he had 47 percent, and I had 87. After we swapped, we immediately checked the percentages. To my surprise, his 47% on my phone immediately turned to 23% But strangely, that 23% remained (the charge on 23 seemed to be holding for quite a while). But when I recharge, it charges WAY too fast (10 minutes of charging = 40% in total from 23%? B.S.!!!)
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I guess thats happen when you flash new rom or kernel or modem...you need to wipe battery stats to fix that....
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I guess thats happen when you flash new rom or kernel or modem...you need to wipe battery stats to fix that....
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I wish it were that simple =( I already tried that via recovery. Unless the recovery method is bugged and not actually wiping the stats. I will manually delete the battery stats and retry, but I dont think it will work.
im just reporting back that manual battery stats wipe did not work =( Any help please? I am absolutely stumped
sorry to triple post but I thought I should ask something else:
Would extracting the batterystats.bin from another captivate and using that one work? (assuming i set permissions correctly)

Battery life and usage..

I'm having like 13hours to 14hours of battery life..Running stock ota 2.3.3..is it normal for such a battery life?(when my phone is fully charged right after I plugged out the charger,my battery drop to 94% to 96%is it normal too?kindly advice..thanks..
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My battery indicator also drops from 100% to 96% a few seconds after i take out the charger. But after 2 days i stille have about 15% battery left.
infatality said:
I'm having like 13hours to 14hours of battery life..Running stock ota 2.3.3..is it normal for such a battery life?(when my phone is fully charged right after I plugged out the charger,my battery drop to 94% to 96%is it normal too?kindly advice..thanks..
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My battery life increased after upgrading to gingerbread. I can usually go through the day (15 hours) with 3g always on, twitter and fb sync on, with light gaming and surfing of the web, 75% brightness.
My record was 2 days 9 hours with 0% brightness, no 3g, only wifi, no gaming, twitter and fb sync on.
For your percentage problem, you can try draining your battery, then when the phone shuts down, hold the power button to switch it on again. Start up an intensive app like a game to further drain the power. Do this until the phone does not start up (no bootscreen), then plug into the charger and charge overnight. DO NOT turn the phone on during the charge. When you turn on your phone after the overnight charge, it should read 100%
I am not too sure what triggers this, but its likely due to battery memory or something, although this should not be happening for lithium batteries. Maybe its a software fault. Do this every month or so to hit that 100% indicator. It is not advisable to do this all the time as draining the battery completely MAY damage the battery over time. Cheers!
How did you manage to get pass 2days of usage?
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Hey,
I'm also having the same issue. Off the charger, BANG! 96% or so, sometimes more. My phone will be at 90% after like 3 texts. Its only had 5 charges mind you, I know there's a "conditioning" time but still, is this normal? I can almost say a text is a percent...my 3gs had more batt life after 1yr... now that's saying something...haha
I can almost watch it drain with the screen on...like 60 secs is a percent or 2...not cool...
Maybe I can do the "Desire Battery Calibration" procedure after a few more full charges...might make a diff...what do you guys think? I may be jumping the gun here...
Thanks in advance.
I remember someone said modern phones are designed not to keep on charging after reaching 100% and resume only after dropping to certain level, maybe 9x%. That could be the reason why I see different percentage left every day I unplug the phone in the morning. But my last Hero always show 100%.
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itandy said:
I remember someone said modern phones are designed not to keep on charging after reaching 100% and resume only after dropping to certain level, maybe 9x%. That could be the reason why I see different percentage left every day I unplug the phone in the morning. But my last Hero always show 100%.
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That sounds right, because it drops from 100% to 96% after a few seconds, and its direct from 100 to 96.
But if you put the charger back it taks a couple of minuts to get from 96% to 99% and about 10 minuts to go from 99% to 100%
As far as i have noticed, this was the issue with X100 too after 2.1 update-
Once connected to the wall socket, the phone charges to 100% and starts dropping.
it does not charge again unless you reconnect the charger.
till the time it is connected, it will display as 100% but once you remove it drops to how much ever time has been spent since it reached 100%.
why that happens, i really don't know.
Ideally the phone should continue charging if the level is below 100. anyways....
about the battery backup, i think 13-15 hours is quite good for a phone with this display and capabilities.
with 3g, a little gaming, surfing, chatting etc. this should really do.
in fact, post the 2.3.3 update, the battery life has definitely increased.
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As far as i have noticed, this was the issue with X100 too after 2.1 update-
Once connected to the wall socket, the phone charges to 100% and starts dropping.
it does not charge again unless you reconnect the charger.
till the time it is connected, it will display as 100% but once you remove it drops to how much ever time has been spent since it reached 100%.
why that happens, i really don't know.
Ideally the phone should continue charging if the level is below 100. anyways....
about the battery backup, i think 13-15 hours is quite good for a phone with this display and capabilities.
with 3g, a little gaming, surfing, chatting etc. this should really do.
in fact, post the 2.3.3 update, the battery life has definitely increased.
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So you think that having a 13hrs ++ battery life is good enough?More advice please..thanks..
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I am on a VzW Inc2 w/ Froyo so not sure how applicable any of this is for you guys...but anyway....
My battery life is fantastic. I too see the 100% down to whatever after unplugging - I am pretty sure this is like others have said; once it reaches 100% during charging it stops charging and does not start again until you unplug and it re-plug it in. I know in my case charging from dead to 100% only takes like 3 or 4 hours. So if you are plugging your phone in when you go to bed it is probably hitting 100% after 3-4 hours and then the rest of the night it is draining down...
I have found JuiceDefender Ultimate and JuicePlotter to be huge helps to me in decreasing battery drain (JD) and understanding what uses the battery (JP).
Also just going into settings, About Phone, Battery, Battery use - this helps understand what is using it.
*Note: JuiceDefender Ultimate can create more problems than good if you are not willing to take the time to learn/set it up.
Prior to using JD and JP I would generally make it through the day, sometimes have a bit of power left over. After using these I always make it through the day, and sometimes through 2 days.
But let's not kid anyone - what JD does you CAN do manually...but more than likely wont or will forget. So for anyone that doesnt want to use JD, do you leave your WiFi on all the time, or do you switch it on/off? Leaving it on all the time drains battery. When WiFi is available, do you use it? I have found WiFi on this phone to use a lot less battery than 3G.
Probably my favorite function of JD I have it disable 3G and WiFi when the screen is off (for getting emails, updates, etc... you can set a schedule where it turns it back on during intervals or whatever).
Also I like the WiFi Location setting - you can teach it where you use WiFi and it will automatically turn WiFi on/off based on your location.
Anyway - my guess is if you are having low battery life, either you are using the device a lot more than you think (voice calls use a lot of battery), you have things syncing too often, or you are leaving radios/etc... on all the time that do not need to be on.
I tried to take the charger out at the same time the battery was on 100% and the LCD light went green.
Then the battery stayed at 100% for about 11 minuts and then went down to 99%.
After 3 1/2 houres the battery is at 95%!!!!!!!!
Bagground Data is enabled.
3G is active.
I have mail check every 15 minuts.
Screen brightnes at 40%
Weather update every 1 houre.
I don't use Facebook, Twitter, Stcoks and News.
I don't understand the battery in my IncS...
You guys know that these batteries don't have memory right? So when you charge doesn't matter, your phone just thinks there is that percentage of battery, do a full drain once and then it should back on track. Also, these batteries never get charged to 100%, its a safety precaution or something of that sort. They hover around 94-96% which is why the phone drops down to that area in what seems like a short amount of time. The fact that the phone says 100% when you unplug it is for effect. I used to always think I had battery problems, just stop being so worried about the battery and you'll notice an improvement. Hope this helped.
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Also draining them completely flat, as in device won't power on, is the worst thing you can do to them
It sort of kills off a little of the capacity, every time you do it
So to the bloke that recommended it, no it does more damage than good
Rellikzephyr
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After 17 houres battery is down from 100% to 84%.
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After 17 houres battery is down from 100% to 84%.
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That's unreal...do you even use the phone?
Rellikzephyr
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After 17 houres battery is down from 100% to 84%.
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What a joke!! Thats impossible!
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I'm finding turning to GSM only helps massively. I mean, so it should but I was hoping I didn't have to do this all the time, like I had to with my 3GS... And its a pain in the butt having to change it.
Still cant find a widget that will do it for me...not mobile data, ACTUAL WCDMA-GSM and back...
On the side, if anyone knows of one, please tell! haha
Thanks
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What a joke!! Thats impossible!
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I tell you is true, and i don't understand i either!!!
Most of the 17 houres the phone was only in standby and i only read mail twice.
I guess its just a fantastic ROM that Mike1986 has made with no Sense ;-)
I can get a day and a half out of my IncS with heavy use on a pretty regular basis. Set brightness to automatic, switch off unnecessary auto updates, GPS, bluetooth, and keep volume down or off in games. My screen timeout is 1 min (reduce for longer battery life), and I have always on internet switched off. I generally leave my Wi-Fi on a lot by mistake but don't find this to affect things too much really.
You will get 96% a lot after a charge as it is bad for your battery to stay plugged in when it's fully charged, so the s/w on HTC phone switch the charge off for a little while so it runs down a little and back up again. I had Hero before and that did this as well.
juice defender ultimate is excellent in my experience.
i had it set to switch on data every 5mins for 15secs to receive notifications and do updates (i have quite lot syncing - twitter, fb, sky news widgets x2, weather) and i would sometimes have gotten 30 hours out of the phone (ie. i wouldnt have charged it 2 nights in a row sometimes), but always easily 1 full day.
im getting sick of having to use JD though, because i figured something HAD to be wrong as my battery would drain in maybe 5-8 hours without JD which I just dont think is good enough and so could not be how its meant to be.
i then read about some people having problems with cyanogen rom battery drain, and that if you switch off android market notifications, it solves it.
so i tried it, charged my phone to 99% again and im now at 82% after 5 hours 10mins, which means if i keep using the phone at this rate, ill make it 25 hours - which is more than good enough for me. (~and i still have all the same stuff syncing as before, except market notifications~)
also i have wifi set to never sleep, so its always on. (its my ideal that everything that you buy the phone for should be able to be kept on 24/7, eg data, gps etc always on - so i keep them like that. bluetooth i dont use though - if i can make it through the day on a charge with decent use, im happy)
try it.
im calling BS on jkolner btw - pics or it didnt happen

[Q] Droid 4 and its battery life... or what it thinks is life.

Droid 4 running Eclipse.
I've noticed that after charging my phone to 100% and going throughout the day, battery life is amazing. I get wonderful stats; I can go 12+ hours (and then some) on a single charge.
However, the issue occurs when my phone starts to drop into the near-dead area. When my phone reached 10%, I usually start easing up on data usage, leaving the screen on, and so forth. But the real problem is that I can be using it when it's (supposedly) about to die, and literally WATCH the battery meter drop to 1%. And it will remain at 1% battery for anything from an hour to four, depending on how I use it.
I'm lost as to what I can do. There are no options in Safestrap 3 to sipe battery stats, so I had to resort to a Market app to wipe the 'batterystats.bin' file. Even then, the app that wipes that file shows the battery at over 3000 mAh of juice... yet this device only has a 1785mAh battery.
So I'm confused. I want to make sure that it's reading proper battery levels, and I want to bring it back to where it should be.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm not sure what else to try.
Just saw this too! Was worried about battery life, as it dropped from 100% -> 10% in about 8 hours, but then stayed there for many many hours.
I just got the phone, so did calibrating the battery help with your one?

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