The title speaks for itself.
For the moment the Verizon XT862 is getting more and more ROMs. But the XT860 nothing is happening. Any news????
For real! Are there major hardware or firmware differences preventing this? There is a fair cross-section of us who can't use the traditional XT862's for whatever reason (service provider, geographic location, etc.), so any developments in the XT860 area would be highly appreciated in our pool.
+1 to this !
I doubt anything will change unless real XT860 SBF gets leaked so there is easy way to recover from screw ups. Until then I doubt we will see anything custom for XT860. Also given the very limited user base, situation doesn't look any better either...
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Why is there a need for SBF when you can do a nandroid backup? (yes im noob)
DoubleYouPee said:
Why is there a need for SBF when you can do a nandroid backup? (yes im noob)
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Afaik you can't do nandroid backups on XT860, yet.
And even when you will be able to have a functional recovery, it is not permanent like what happen on HTC phones (due to the unlocked bootloader) or in the milestone 1 (due to a security breach on the initial firmwares.
On D3/MS3 RSD and a sbf can be the only way to recover a bricked phone.
The Solutor said:
Afaik you can't do nandroid backups on XT860, yet.
And even when you will be able to have a functional recovery, it is not permanent like what happen on HTC phones (due to the unlocked bootloader) or in the milestone 1 (due to a security breach on the initial firmwares.
On D3/MS3 RSD and a sbf can be the only way to recover a bricked phone.
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But doesn't a nandroid backup the entire phone? Then why would you need a SBF?
DoubleYouPee said:
But doesn't a nandroid backup the entire phone? Then why would you need a SBF?
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Yes it does, but is the purpose of a backup if you don't have a way to do a restore ? (this can happen because the access to the custom recovery is based on an installable apk and not on a bootloader function)
The Solutor said:
Yes it does, but is the purpose of a backup if you don't have a way to do a restore ? (this can happen because the access to the custom recovery is based on an installable apk and not on a bootloader function)
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As I understood it a nandroid is a backup made from clockworkmod which runs just fine on the xt860. And could you not flash a nandroid through adb or rsd if you had the forethought to have a copy on your computer, thus achieving a similar result to a sbf(not fully stocked, but recovered from a brick)
Sent from my rooted xt860
Simply no you can't. In order to flash a nandroid you would need to be able to get into recovery if you a truly bricked you wouldn't have access to recovery that is what the sbf is for.
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Endoroid said:
As I understood it a nandroid is a backup made from clockworkmod which runs just fine on the xt860.
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IF the custom recovery works you can use nandroid backup and restore.
BUT, as already said this is not the fully working solution seen in other phones, is a tricky solution, so you can get (easily) a situation when you can't boot in the custom recovery, and sbf is mandatory.
I keep hearing about Steel Droid; how difficult would it be to get it running effectively on an XT860? The XT860's hardware must be very similar to the XT862's (aside from the signal band/antenna hardware I'm guessing), correct? Would a dev have to completely re-engineer his entire ROM in order for it to work on the XT860?
Wonder that too. I am no expert so I can't really say. But I do understand Bell first needs to come with an update??
Endoroid said:
...clockworkmod which runs just fine on the xt860....
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How did you manage that? I installed ROM Manager Premium, then CWMod 5.0.2.6, confirmed motorola Droid 3 ... and nothing: "Backup current ROM" Makes my phone simply to restart...
Having read this (and other) topics I am confused - is there a way for XT860 user to have full backup (nand...) of the phone?
dvet said:
How did you manage that? I installed ROM Manager Premium, then CWMod 5.0.2.6, confirmed motorola Droid 3 ... and nothing: "Backup current ROM" Makes my phone simply to restart...
Having read this (and other) topics I am confused - is there a way for XT860 user to have full backup (nand...) of the phone?
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I just installed the apk for the tweaked bootstrap(Droid3CWbootstrap.apk), clicked bootstrap recovery and boot into it using m+power and going to BP tools. And the untweaked version worked for me as well, but you can't boot into that one using the m+power.
As I understand the safestrap doesn't work on xt860 although I haven't tries it myself
Rooted xt860, debloated and overclocked to 1.1
Sweet, this is awesome!
I just took your advice Endroid and loaded ClockworkMod Recovery on my device. I'm now making my first nandroid backup... (nothing has been disabled on my device) Have you tried doing anything more advanced on your device yet? I mean, we should just be able to restore at this point, right?
I've done a restore for testingnpurpose. Worked fine. I've also flashed some zips from the uot kitchen and the speedy script. It all works fine
Rooted xt860, debloated and overclocked to 1.1
Well that sounds great. Sadly no flashing anything else. Cause the firmware stays a little crappy. :-(
Ya the big problem is not much available to flash yet. If you're not already aware of it check out uot kitchen. Just Google it. Allows you to do some theming. Not every change will take, probably to do with MOTOBLUR. Lame. But you change that ugly blue status bar
Rooted xt860, debloated and overclocked to 1.1
Endoroid said:
...If you're not already aware of it check out uot kitchen. Just Google it. Allows you to do some theming. Not every change will take, ....
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Well, I was not aware, so thanks.
As you have already fiddled with it, could you please say what were you able to change?
Apart of that, I am especially interested in:
Changing the battery indicator to show 1%
Changing the dialog, where you set the time for an appointment (se the attachment) to something better, where I could select times from the pulldown, select "tomorrow" etc...
Do you know whether such things are available through kitchen?
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Not sure if this has already been posted somewhere, but after my experience I figured it might be useful to someone. If it's been posted already ignore this and move on with your day/night
1. flash sbf
2. phone will go in the boot loop of death, thats fine lol.. when rsdlite says 100 percent pull the battery
3. put the battery back in, hold down the home button plus the power button till you see the moto logo followed by the triangle
4. hit search button, your now in recovery
5. do a factory restore
6. once complete reboot phone
7. thank god and swear you wont flash your phone ever again (ofcourse only to do it in a day or so after you have calmed down)
rsdlite and sbf can be found in this thread CLICK
If you made a nandroid backup of 2.1 couldn't you just restore that? I'm pretty sure you can. I remember doing it with the Moto Droid.
taypotts said:
If you made a nandroid backup of 2.1 couldn't you just restore that? I'm pretty sure you can. I remember doing it with the Moto Droid.
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not sure if you can use bootstrap in froyo, and besides if you ever need to go back to a unrooted state this is the way to go :: cough warranty ::
taypotts said:
If you made a nandroid backup of 2.1 couldn't you just restore that? I'm pretty sure you can. I remember doing it with the Moto Droid.
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Do not restore a 2. 1 nandroid in 2. 2. The update changes the bootloader and recovery versions which aren't part of the backup. The phone will just hang at the MOTO logo. I learned this the hard way. You have to use the sbf. You can then apply your nandroid to get everything back.
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iB4STiD said:
Not sure if this has already been posted somewhere, but after my experience I figured it might be useful to someone.
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Could you explain?
I am holding off on switching to 2.2, always do to let everyone else find the bugs.
What was your experience?
bad4u6669 said:
Could you explain?
I am holding off on switching to 2.2, always do to let everyone else find the bugs.
What was your experience?
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what i meant by my experience was downgrading 2.2 to 2.1, My g/f has the droid x, and i am the one to root or mod her phone for her. She wanted to try out froyo and liked the rom alot. there are little bugs i noticed
1. odd little animation hiccup when scrolling home screens
2. lag in gallery
3. what seemed like market delay (but the market has been slow lately, same thing on my vibrant and g1)
but this is a test build not a "final rom"
Like i said downgrading the phone is a little different than other android phones Ive used and i thought this post may help someone out. Im the type of person who wont mod something unless i know i can get back to where i started and with this sbf and "how to" you wont have to worry about that.
pjsockett said:
Do not restore a 2. 1 nandroid in 2. 2. The update changes the bootloader and recovery versions which aren't part of the backup. The phone will just hang at the MOTO logo. I learned this the hard way. You have to use the sbf. You can then apply your nandroid to get everything back.
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also i believe it updates the radio and kernel.. thanks pj for explaining that
If I wanted to go to 2.1 ,don't see why...at the moment.
Before I do a SBF would it be ok to to do a data wipe and a partition wipe in recovery mode then do the SBF bootrecovery deal???
Thank You
after you upgrade to 2.2 koush has a new DroidXBootstrap.apk out
go back to his website and DL it and reinstall then rerun bootstrap.
after that rom manager can do backups or recoveries.
sucks you all get bootloop with sbf, ive done it twice now and has worked fine
keeps all my apps and stuff
goodluck
pjsockett said:
Do not restore a 2. 1 nandroid in 2. 2. The update changes the bootloader and recovery versions which aren't part of the backup. The phone will just hang at the MOTO logo. I learned this the hard way. You have to use the sbf. You can then apply your nandroid to get everything back.
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I'm kinda confused what you mean? I did a nandroid backup of 2.1 with the latest bootstrap and clockworld.
I just remember using a nandroid on my girl's moto droid and I went from 2.2 all the way back to 2.0.1.
when trying to sbf on my Mac I get this -bash: ./sbf_flash: Permission denied? Any suggestions I have been asking for 2 days now hopefully someone can help. Thanks
taypotts said:
I'm kinda confused what you mean? I did a nandroid backup of 2.1 with the latest bootstrap and clockworld.
I just remember using a nandroid on my girl's moto droid and I went from 2.2 all the way back to 2.0.1.
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I also did the same from my Eris. The major difference is that the recovery on those devices were completely replaced not just patched. When you restore a 2.1 nandroid from a 2.2 droid x the android 3e recovery is not replaced. When the system tries to boot it sees that as an invalid recovery image and won't boot, it just hangs at the moto logo forever. When you upgarde to 2.2 on a Droid or an Eris your still using clockwork recovery or amon ra's recovery and not upgrading to the android 3e system recovery. Maybe it was just a fluke that it didn't work for me but it makes sense as to why it would fail, otherwise we would be able to have a full custom recovery.
dscottjr81 said:
when trying to sbf on my Mac I get this -bash: ./sbf_flash: Permission denied? Any suggestions I have been asking for 2 days now hopefully someone can help. Thanks
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From my understanding sbf_flash is for linux only. To flash on mac you need to use rsd lite with a virtual windows os.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/38671-flashing-sbf-mac.html
i cant get my phone to flash. i have done this 2 before with my droid x on 2.1 but now that i am on 2.2 every time i try to use RSDlite, i connect my phone and select my SBF but the START button will not light up so i cannot proceed. any thoughts.. im running windows 7 64 and i have all the drivers working for my phone.
failed sbf flash
Hey guys, i got an error in RSD that says "Failed flashing process. Failed flashing process. Phone[0000]: Phone is not compatible with muli-interface super-file. (0x703B); phone connected
Any ideas, i'm really new to android stuff, been using WM forever.
Thanks for the help
please ignore me as I can't read apparently
if anyone else sees this remeber to copy the pst_flash file to the Program Files/Motorola/RSDLite directory
tacticalmedicokc said:
please ignore me as I can't read apparently
if anyone else sees this remeber to copy the pst_flash file to the Program Files/Motorola/RSDLite directory
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thanks. i had the same problem.
greetings,
I had the brilliant idea of flashing my droid 3, but now I'm stuck on a black screen:
AP Fastboot Flash Mode (S) (Flash Failure)
0A.40
Battery OK
OK to Program
Connect USB
Data Cable
I used RSD Lite to flash, but it just shows
Failed flashing process. 1/18 (...) result FAIL
I'm trying to update with CW, but it stuck after the 'press menu' page
someone knows how to unbrick my phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336980
if youre trying to update through CW, you shouldnt need to use RSD. Since you have used RSD, you need to make sure you have the correct SBF. Im not sure if the Milestone 3/??Model# has an SBF! You will need to sbf (with RSD) and (probably) clear cache (through recovery m+power)
thank U vry much!
giving a try
as soon I get some results, I'll post here
and again: thank you
well... my droid is a
motorola Milestone 3 x850
Godmik said:
well... my droid is a
motorola Milestone 3 x850
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oh..you have the XT860? In this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19784171 they're saying you can make nandroid backups now...I guess you didn't?
I'm not really up to date with XT860 news (there's still no subforum) but you could try flash the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288823.
I don't know if there's an official SBF for XT860 yet
when i saw the flag in your profile, i figured you werent using our XT862. I did a couple searches but didnt come up with anything but a system dump
I did...
bot even the backup stuck....
when I boot with + and - volume buttons pressed, I can navigate to 'Normal Powerup'
then appears the CW window, where I made the backup, but when I try to restore and reboot, it keeps stucking....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17419746&postcount=81
check out this thread, not just post 81. this guy said he tried flashing the xt862 rom to his xt860 and bricked like you. ive never had to fastboot the /preinstall partition (??), but you may find more information if you dig a little deeper. hope that helps
guys,
my greatest THANKS!
after this little time and this little help I can yell:
IT'S ALIVE!! \o/
I almost lost (another) mobile on flash (frist a Motorola v360, then a Palm Treo Pro 850)
on other hand.... it's on CHINESE!!!
but I think I can handle that..... or at least try to....
awesome. i was worried because motorola marketed two phones as the XT860, which is Bell Canada, and Vivo Brazil. everything ive checked out was for the Bell version (even though they could be the exact same base)
now, I'll try to root again, install CW and restore my backup...
wish me luck =P
thinking better....
this whole confusion started because my droid was too slow.... (I guess it's because motoblur) and restore the backup will only help to mess up with my head again
If you're on the me863 rom now thenone click root won't work, there is a link to a working root method in the me863 thread in the Droid 3 android dev forum
Rooted xt860, debloated and overclocked to 1.1
DoubleYouPee said:
oh..you have the XT860? In this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19784171 they're saying you can make nandroid backups now...I guess you didn't?
I'm not really up to date with XT860 news (there's still no subforum) but you could try flash the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288823.
I don't know if there's an official SBF for XT860 yet
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I've been making nanxroids through CWR since the d3 bootstrap first came out. Never had a problem. Its safestrap that doesn't work in xt860
Rooted xt860, debloated and overclocked to 1.1
there's only one problem: I can't instal gapps...
there's a method or a order?
Godmik said:
there's only one problem: I can't instal gapps...
there's a method or a order?
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Yes flash with stock recovery http://www.gokuai.com/f/S2rh89s025kihzf6
Also install morelocale 2 to change language
now I got gapps working too
ty guys!
As the title says, I'd like to root, but with somewhat limited knowledge on the phone and it's processes, and no knowledge of scripting/coding, I want to avoid taking too much risk.
I've been stock with the D3 since I got the phone in 2011, found out we aren't getting ICS, and we aren't getting unlocked by Moto. (pissed off!) >.<
The way I see it I have 2 options, 1) stay stock until my contract is up in march and get a new phone, or 2) Give root a go, and Have ICS ported to me via a Custom Rom, and do more research as I go. (I like being hands-on when it comes to learning).
As to my phone, I am running 906 OTA Stock as it gets .. -_-' I'd like to root using
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686911 <-- ovelayer's method in this thread. (thank you Ovelayer, I can't seem to find that button so I'm just acknowledging you here since I'm new to this kind-of thing).
I just need some clarification
in his thread it says to dl the 1-click .exe, then the Motofail root tool? or is that also a way to root? I got confused with that.
Afterwards, I dl safestrap once I'm rooted? or should I just dl it and put it onto my phone all at once?
Apologies for the noobness. I'd rather be a noob asking questions than a retard who goes ahead and does things and finds out he screwed up too late.
Rooting is done to get superuser permissions within Android so you can install some advanced apps and modify system files which can all be done from within the stock ROM. Rooting then flashing an unofficial ROM is a little more advanced and something I haven't done yet so I can't help you much there. I'm waiting for something a little more stable since my Droid 3 is my main phone. You can read Hash of Codes site (the developer of ICS/JB for the Droid 3) on how to safestrap:
http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/how-to-safestrap/
To root use Motofail. I know it says its for the Droid 4 but the original Droid 3 root exploit was patched with the latest OTA so we have to use the Droid 4 method called Motofail:
http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2012/02/11/rooting-the-droid-4-a-failed-bounty-experiment/
DróidScìon said:
As the title says, I'd like to root, but with somewhat limited knowledge on the phone and it's processes, and no knowledge of scripting/coding, I want to avoid taking too much risk.
I've been stock with the D3 since I got the phone in 2011, found out we aren't getting ICS, and we aren't getting unlocked by Moto. (pissed off!) >.<
The way I see it I have 2 options, 1) stay stock until my contract is up in march and get a new phone, or 2) Give root a go, and Have ICS ported to me via a Custom Rom, and do more research as I go. (I like being hands-on when it comes to learning).
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My D3 has Maverick as non-safe for daily driver and the latest Hashcode for fun. I find that to be the best combination. Once Hash finishes the camera and JB is working reasonable well, JB will be my DD.
I also have an SGS3, TF300T, and a Spica, all of them rooted.
once rooted, make sure you use safe strap. It makes roms easy to try out before having to settle
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Alright, so it appears I have been rooted, and still looks like I'm in .906 OTA. It was pretty easy using Motofail, actually. So, now I have Superuser and Titanium Backup(free, for now) on my D3.
Now, you guys mentioned Safestrap? Can you guys give me a suggestion on which one to use? There appear to be a few of them. 1 is SAFESTRAP v2.10 Recovery (Kexec) and the other is a Tweaked version of Safestrap v1.08e (Non-Kex) which one is better, or a better question, whats the difference between the 2?
DróidScìon said:
Alright, so it appears I have been rooted, and still looks like I'm in .906 OTA. It was pretty easy using Motofail, actually. So, now I have Superuser and Titanium Backup(free, for now) on my D3.
Now, you guys mentioned Safestrap? Can you guys give me a suggestion on which one to use? There appear to be a few of them. 1 is SAFESTRAP v2.10 Recovery (Kexec) and the other is a Tweaked version of Safestrap v1.08e (Non-Kex) which one is better, or a better question, whats the difference between the 2?
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Safestrap 1.08 is the 'normal' ssafestrap
Safestrap 1.08e/f/g is an advanced safestrap with extra features like touch etc but not by hashcode
Safestrap 2.10 is the latest which allows the new kernel with the kexec ICS/JB to be used.
2.10 It appears to also work fine with normal roms so i'd use that
DróidScìon said:
As to my phone, I am running 906 OTA Stock as it gets .. -_-' I'd like to root using
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686911 <-- ovelayer's method in this thread. (thank you Ovelayer, I can't seem to find that button so I'm just acknowledging you here since I'm new to this kind-of thing).
I just need some clarification
in his thread it says to dl the 1-click .exe, then the Motofail root tool? or is that also a way to root? .
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If you were stock 906, there was no reason to run the 1-click.exe - that's only for people who rooted their phones and deleted bloatware to get the phone back to stock, or people whose phones are bricked somehow. Coming from stock, just running Motofail was enough to root.
I will concur with everyone here that running rooting, installing and running Safestrap, and installing a custom ROM - and leaving your rooted stock alone - is the best way to go. It will be a lot easier to unroot later on if you want to sell the phone, etc.
Alright, Safestrap 2.01 is installed. According to Hash's Blog, I should create a backup when in the Recovery Menu since its my first time accessing the Safestrap Menu. Can I get a little more detail as to how I do this? When I select backup, it asks if I want to backup from Internal SD or External? I'm assuming Internal, but I just want to err on the side of caution and ask those who already know.
DróidScìon said:
Alright, Safestrap 2.01 is installed. According to Hash's Blog, I should create a backup when in the Recovery Menu since its my first time accessing the Safestrap Menu. Can I get a little more detail as to how I do this? When I select backup, it asks if I want to backup from Internal SD or External? I'm assuming Internal, but I just want to err on the side of caution and ask those who already know.
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It doesn't matter. Choose which has enough space.
DróidScìon said:
Alright, Safestrap 2.01 is installed. According to Hash's Blog, I should create a backup when in the Recovery Menu since its my first time accessing the Safestrap Menu. Can I get a little more detail as to how I do this? When I select backup, it asks if I want to backup from Internal SD or External? I'm assuming Internal, but I just want to err on the side of caution and ask those who already know.
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It's asking where to backup TO, like the post above me, choose wherever has space. Backups are about 1GB. You may wish to move it to your computer after if you don't have much space on your device. You can always stick it back on your external sd via card reader if needed, but it's really hard to brick while using safestrap
Also one of the most common errors for noobs on safestrap is, the first time you engage safe mode, you must flash a rom. Since its using a different partition for system, it's currently empty and if you switch to safe and try to boot you will get a black screen as you are booting an empty partition. All gingerbread roms are stable but there are no ics roms that are fully functional, although one is in the works
Sent from my XT860 using xda premium
I saw that, and before I rooted, I did a Factory Reset on the phone and formatted my SD card. So I have 11+gig free on Internal and 15+gigs on External.
Now, I just need to learn to Flash RoMs (probably more to it than just hitting a button that says flash .zip) and find some info on the "must-have" apps for a rooted phone.
Well guys, I've successfully installed CM9 Kexec ICS Sept 5th update from Hashcode on my Droid 3! Now, another big question, How will I restore stuff like contact and account info? I've read somewhere around here that Restoring Data from my google account is a bad idea?? Are there other ways of doing so without Titanium Backup, or should I just go ahead and buy the Pro Key? (currently limited funding)
DróidScìon said:
Well guys, I've successfully installed CM9 Kexec ICS Sept 5th update from Hashcode on my Droid 3! Now, another big question, How will I restore stuff like contact and account info? I've read somewhere around here that Restoring Data from my google account is a bad idea?? Are there other ways of doing so without Titanium Backup, or should I just go ahead and buy the Pro Key? (currently limited funding)
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If your contacts are on your google account they will show up.
What other account info do you mean?
You should go ahead and restore contacts. just go to Settings>Accounts and Sync>Google, then turn contacts sync on.
Endoroid said:
Also one of the most common errors for noobs on safestrap is, the first time you engage safe mode, you must flash a rom. Since its using a different partition for system, it's currently empty and if you switch to safe and try to boot you will get a black screen as you are booting an empty partition. All gingerbread roms are stable but there are no ics roms that are fully functional, although one is in the works
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I must have made another noob mistake. Everything went well, up until my first startup with the new OS (cyanogenmod9). It has been at the startup screen for over 15minutes right now. I must say, it is one awesome startup screen, with the blue effects and all, but I would love to get to the desktop/homescreen, haha.
If you guys have any advice I would greatly appreciate it. This is a Droid 3, it was rooted a couple hours ago, I did the safestrap as described, created a backup file, etc. My only guess is I jumped the gun by trying this OS on my Droid3 and it may still be under development? FWIW to you, this is the first I've rooted or modded a smartphone in my life, from 0-full speed in a couple hours is what I was shooting for using everyone elses experience.
thanks
Make sure you wiped the data/user settings in Safestrap. You lose your apps & settings but those items from a previous install can cause that type of boot issue.
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Phibernaut said:
Make sure you wiped the data/user settings in Safestrap. You lose your apps & settings but those items from a previous install can cause that type of boot issue.
Sent from my XT862 using xda app-developers app
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thanks. since my last post I used a more detailed how-to, and wiped 3 different areas for data. Now, i had only a black screen (with power, barely lit) and it never even got to the cool blue screen.
I'm currently in safestrap after pulling my battery again, just trying to figure out how to revert back to my standard OS (rooted) and try a ROM like MavRom since it's suppoedly fully capable and stable. I'd love ICS, but I just want a working phone right now
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good news is, I did enough steps correctly, that I was able to startup in my unsafe mode, and my normal rooted system is functioning fine. That makes me very happy.
This duel boot thing is pretty cool, reminds me of having bootable thumb drives on my old linux system with different OS's. I hope i can get a seperate OS working, however, that fits my needs for a day to day functional phone, without all of Verizon's crap on it
Once rooted use titanium backup to back up apps and data.
Only restore with the same ROM though, the following is in increasing order of risk
restore app only to exact same ROM+version
restore app+data to same ROM+ver
restore app only to update of same ROM
restore app+data to updated ROM version
play chicken with a bus on a highway
restore apps to different kernel e.g. CM7 backup => restore to CM9
check to see what a gun firing looks like down the barrel
restore app+data to different kernel
restore app+data to an older ROM or kernel
do anything at all with system apps+data if you don't know what you're doing
Have not seen anything like this uploaded so I figured I would get a copy online.
Recently I had a Droid 3 get replaced with an XT861 by Verizon's warranty replacement service.
Physically and electronically the phone is exactly the same as the Droid 3 XT862.
However, the software installed was much different than the usual Verizon ROM.
The ROM reports as 5.8.25.XT861.ACG.en.US
I believe the ACG stands for Associated Carrier Group (Alltel, nTelos, etc...)
How Verizon got this ROM and why they sent it on this phone I have no idea but it is very lightweight, little to no bloat that Verizon typically loads on their stock ROM images.
As far as I know there is no SBF for this but attached is a CWM recovery image.
Not certain if Safestrap will recover from it but CWM will for sure.
***UPDATE*** DO NOT USE SAFESTRAP. CWM ONLY -
THIS IS NOT A ROM. THIS IS A CWM BACKUP IMAGE
Available here: http://d-h.st/kEd
***UPDATE 1/23/13***
This is an extraction of the system.tar and converted into a ROM .zip
Wipe data/cache and dalvik before flashing.
Confirmed working with CWM & Safestrap
Available here: http://d-h.st/mCB
Deodexed ROM (Courtesy of thingonaspring) http://d-h.st/H5w
Doesn't quite work on XT862 - locks up on boot - so it looks like XT861 isn't exactly a rebranded XT862. Thought I'd post this, in case somebody else is thinking of trying it
Nonetheless, this sounds interesting, allright (converting CWM to TWRP for safestrap is trivial btw). Would be interesting to create a frankenbuild of stock XT862 with just the packages in this fella, for starters.
There is also this ROM here, which calls your phone a Milestone 3. (5.8.938.XT862, Android 2.3.6): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068022
It works great on Safestrap 3.05, works great as a Verizon phone.
mionica said:
Doesn't quite work on XT862 - locks up on boot - so it looks like XT861 isn't exactly a rebranded XT862. Thought I'd post this, in case somebody else is thinking of trying it
Nonetheless, this sounds interesting, allright (converting CWM to TWRP for safestrap is trivial btw). Would be interesting to create a frankenbuild of stock XT862 with just the packages in this fella, for starters.
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Are you running .906 or .890?
I was able to flash it onto an XT862 with .906 no problem.
mionica said:
Doesn't quite work on XT862 - locks up on boot - so it looks like XT861 isn't exactly a rebranded XT862. Thought I'd post this, in case somebody else is thinking of trying it
Nonetheless, this sounds interesting, allright (converting CWM to TWRP for safestrap is trivial btw). Would be interesting to create a frankenbuild of stock XT862 with just the packages in this fella, for starters.
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And the XT861 definitely is exactly the same as the XT862 physically and mechanically. The boot kernel on it is basically the .906 boot.img so trying to run this ROM on the older boot.img will not work without modification.
RWALEY said:
Are you running .906 or .890?
I was able to flash it onto an XT862 with .906 no problem.
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RWALEY said:
And the XT861 definitely is exactly the same as the XT862 physically and mechanically. The boot kernel on it is basically the .906 boot.img so trying to run this ROM on the older boot.img will not work without modification.
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Ok, fair enough, I stand corrected. I must have done something wrong there, as I'm on .906 as well.
What I did was, convert the .zip from cwm to twrp (gzip --best'ed the part images, renamed then md5sum'ed them), then restored the thing (twrp in safestrap3.05) on an empty slot; restore succeeded, and well, it didn't quite boot.
Btw, if it's obvious from the above just what it is I did wrong, by all means, tell me. I only got the d3 last week, I'm still on the learning curve
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Ok, fair enough, I stand corrected. I must have done something wrong there, as I'm on .906 as well.
What I did was, convert the .zip from cwm to twrp (gzip --best'ed the part images, renamed then md5sum'ed them), then restored the thing (twrp in safestrap3.05) on an empty slot; restore succeeded, and well, it didn't quite boot.
Btw, if it's obvious from the above just what it is I did wrong, by all means, tell me. I only got the d3 last week, I'm still on the learning curve
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I really don't use safestrap and I am not familiar with it. You might want to try regular CWM. That's what has worked for me.
Or just extract the system.tar and flash that. Fairly certain that will run on both old and new bootloaders. If I get some free time I will make a flashable ROM that incorporates this XT861 image.
All right, it works. And looks pretty nice! Had to purchase CWM for Droid3 for that though.
I maintain my initial comment - flashing while on SafeStrap is just asking for trouble:
- flashed on a SafeStrap ROM slot: doesn't boot
- flashed over main ROM: had to fastboot to de-brick it
mionica said:
All right, it works. And looks pretty nice! Had to purchase CWM for Droid3 for that though.
I maintain my initial comment - flashing while on SafeStrap is just asking for trouble:
- flashed on a SafeStrap ROM slot: doesn't boot
- flashed over main ROM: had to fastboot to de-brick it
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Good to know. I am in the process of converting it over to a ROM that should be flashable on CWM or Safestrap.
Not sure why you were charged. As far as I know, it is free through the Rom Manager app.
RWALEY said:
Not sure why you were charged. As far as I know, it is free through the Rom Manager app.
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Oops, I wasn't using Rom Manager - told you I am a noob Nevermind, it's fine - this ROM installed, so I just got rid of CWM (the logwrapper* deal), got SafeStrap back and am now backing it up w/ SS. Time to see whether the 2.3.6 STK from Milestone3 works on this ROM...
I have updated the post to include a converted system.tar into a ROM that should work on CWM or Safestrap.
I have not had a chance to test it yet so flash at your own risk.
Wipe data, cache and dalvik before flashing.
Re: XT861 5.8.25 Stock ROM. Android 2.3.6 - UPDATED 1/20
I tried to install this rom as a backup and as a zip rom, nothing happened recovery give me - error.
Sent from my DROID3 using xda app-developers app
Tanzior said:
I tried to install this rom as a backup and as a zip rom, nothing happened recovery give me - error.
Sent from my DROID3 using xda app-developers app
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Same. Only tried with safestrap(in a secondary slot) and the new zip but get error immediately. Didn't go any further yet.
Looks like it may not work with Safestrap then.
I have only gotten both the backup and the ROM to install in CWM.
If anyone else wants to modify the files to try and get compatibility with Safestrap feel free too. I do not have much experience with it.
Re: XT861 5.8.25 Stock ROM. Android 2.3.6 - UPDATED 1/20
CWM error: can not copy E:/META INF/……/binnary update
Sent from my DROID3 using xda app-developers app
Tanzior said:
CWM error: can not find E:/META INF/……/binnary update
Sent from my DROID3 using xda app-developers app
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Very strange. I do not get that at tall.
I will look into it. Wondering if something bad happened during the upload.
I have a feeling the extra xbin folder stuff might be causing an issue for some people.
I have recompressed and signed a new .zip without it.
Have been able to install in CWM multiple times without issue.
Will update the first post.
Linked here: http://d-h.st/mCB
RWALEY said:
I have a feeling the extra xbin folder stuff might be causing an issue for some people.
I have recompressed and signed a new .zip without it.
Have been able to install in CWM multiple times without issue.
Will update the first post.
Linked here: http://d-h.st/pzO
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Thank you for the last ZIP installed fine, except that it is 177 MB, the old file size was more 350Mb (there probably was an error.)
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Looks great - there are no unnecessary programs from Verizon. Maybe MiniMoto will be developed on the basis of this firmware, if the author of this idea like.
@Tanzior - maybe it will
Anyone able to install with Safestrap?
So I picked up a Dev Edition XT1060 on swappa so I can get ARUnchained running on it, and was wondering what's the easiest way to clone my current locked, stock, unrooted XT1060 to the new one? I've had varying levels of success in the past with the Moto "Migrate" app, ADB backup/restore from the command line, and Helium, but was wondering if there is anything better out there now.
Don't think so, not on an unrooted device. Best you can do is helium for user apps and data.
And in my opinion....that's as far as you want to go. Restoring anything system related to a new device is asking for problems. ?
Wade-0 said:
So I picked up a Dev Edition XT1060 on swappa so I can get ARUnchained running on it, and was wondering what's the easiest way to clone my current locked, stock, unrooted XT1060 to the new one? I've had varying levels of success in the past with the Moto "Migrate" app, ADB backup/restore from the command line, and Helium, but was wondering if there is anything better out there now.
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KJ is right if you are going to a different phone.
But if rooted only & going to the same phone, as in a boot unlock which wipes data. You can (I have not tested) use "Online back up" apk with root only. At least on paper it should work .
See my links below.
aviwdoowks said:
KJ is right if you are going to a different phone.
But if rooted only & going to the same phone, as in a boot unlock which wipes data. You can (I have not tested) use "Online back up" apk with root only. At least on paper it should work .
See my links below.
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They are identical system images, AFAIK, so there shouldn't be anything different in the system files, and the DevEd has already been unlocked by the previous owner. So I don't think I need any of that stuff transferred anyway, which should cut down on the time involved. I haven't played around with trying to restore an ADB backup from a different device, so I'm not sure if there's going to be any issues there. The only time I've used that method was to backup my device before using RSD to flash a different factory image, and even then it wasn't a very smooth operation. I guess I'll just have to try it and find out
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They are identical system images, AFAIK, so there shouldn't be anything different in the system files, and the DevEd has already been unlocked by the previous owner. So I don't think I need any of that stuff transferred anyway, which should cut down on the time involved. I haven't played around with trying to restore an ADB backup from a different device, so I'm not sure if there's going to be any issues there. The only time I've used that method was to backup my device before using RSD to flash a different factory image, and even then it wasn't a very smooth operation. I guess I'll just have to try it and find out
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You cannot nandroid data from one phone to another!! See my post in the x Philz thread.
aviwdoowks said:
You cannot nandroid data from one phone to another!! See my post in the x Philz thread.
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Wasn't aware I could even nandroid an unrooted phone.
Edit: I'm wondering if maybe you misunderstood what I was talking about with the ADB backup/restore. Here's more information: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
From my early experience with Carbon (which is now called Helium) it was basically the same thing as the ADB backup/restore function, Carbon was just a user friendly wrapper for it. But I could be way off on that point, it just seemed like it was doing exactly the same thing in the background.
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Wasn't aware I could even nandroid an unrooted phone.
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I only figure that on "paper" the online BACKUP should work with root only. Not restore, mind you, that needs custom recovery. Which one would have after the obligatory data wipe which moto enforces to unlock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-online-nandroid-backup-ready-t2762382
OP is not rooted. So why confuse the matter. ?
aviwdoowks said:
I only figure that on "paper" the online BACKUP should work with root only. Not restore, mind you, that needs custom recovery. Which one would have after the obligatory data wipe which moto enforces to unlock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-online-nandroid-backup-ready-t2762382
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See my edited reply above. Also, the phone is already unlocked by the previous owner (bought it used on Swappa) so I only need to put custom recovery on it and root it, and whatever data transfer method I decide to use.
I thought I would post this also for those wanting a way to backup, while rooted, and then restore their nandroid when unlocked.