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Why doesn't wm6.5 have cool animations like minimizing animations like the iphone!!!?

can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5

Why doesn't the iphone have a physical keyboard like the touch pro !!!?

because it's not an iphone. If you want cool minimizing animations get an iPhone. If you want productivity keep the TP
Edit: Above post is to the OP not you sevenalive lol. it sounds weird reading your post right before mine lol. U posted a minute b4 me .

siggty7 said:
can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
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Why can't i pay $70 a month for tethering like on the iphone when i have to pay $0 on the touch pro..... some things in life aren't fair for everything else theres Steve errr Apple - http://i.gizmodo.com/5285898/bart-tears-down-dvd-jons-apple+baiting-doubletwist-ad

the iphone's a great piece of machinery and there's no denying it, but if people want something to be like an iphone than get the real thing. i hate these iphone themes and wannabe applications, so i say skip the damn aspirations to be iphone-like, or to be as cool and unique as the other millions and millions of iphone users
xda fits more for hardcore users, not sheep

Why do you all keep putting down the iphone and flaming about it when that wasn't the question? I'm also someone who likes the animations that phones like the iPhone and Palm Pre have and would love to get them on wm6.5. If the iphone had a keyboard and was on verizon, i would've went straight for it. We already know that the iphone doesn't have a keyboard and costs $75 a month so what's the point of writing that? No one's asking to turn their htc into an iphone or even copy the interface, it's just a simple question. If you don't know the answer, don't waste everyon'e time by ranting about the iphone's faults. I'd settle for just animations whether they look like the iphone/palm pre or not. It makes rotating the phone or going back to the home screen look much smoother.
Anyway, i have a question that ACTUALLY pertains to this topic. Is there a way to get the accelerometer effects like the omnia/iphone/palm pre or like Opera 9.7 when the device is turned? I like how the page kind of flips when it's rotating.

I feel for you :] I like some animations like that as well.
Granted, I'm an avid iPhone basher also, but I do like 2 things about it, and one is the animations and visual effects.
...the other is the capacitive touch screen. But, hey, they can't use their phone with a glove on. ;]

thank u! u understand what am saying i love my htc but **** come with some cool animations that all am saying!!

Wouldn't it be possible to design a Flash based menu system?
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http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/1...comes-freestyl-windows-mobile-program-launch/

some iphone interfaces do have animations
and if you want the palm pre interface for opening apps that are up you can combine butler with taskfacade. both which were out before web os was announced
butler turns your capacitive area into an app launcher
and taskfacade can be mapped to one of the areas and it will animate zooming out of the app and show all that are open. pretty snazzy

jaszek said:
because it's not an iphone. If you want cool minimizing animations get an iPhone. If you want productivity keep the TP
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Do you also believe that if you want to edit video and photos, you need to get a Mac....If you're going to set up a file server, set up a linux box....and if you're going to type up a report for your boss, you need to have windows? I'm pretty sure all three OS's can accomplish each of those tasks, even if one may have a slight edge on another (even if only by stereotype). If everybody thought like that, there wouldn't even be standard Desktop Linux users.
The notion of having some animation on the screen shouldn't be limited to a few specific handsets. We have the technology, we just have to make it work the way we want.
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the iphone's a great piece of machinery and there's no denying it, but if people want something to be like an iphone than get the real thing. i hate these iphone themes and wannabe applications, so i say skip the damn aspirations to be iphone-like, or to be as cool and unique as the other millions and millions of iphone users
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I agree to an extent, I think those mock iPhone apps are useless, but that's because I think the iPhone interface is useless. I prefer to think those apps exist for another reason...to show iPhone users that there's nothing special or cool about their phone. I like being able to say, "I can do everything your phone can, but can your phone do this?" At that point, I can show off the other home screens, interfaces, and tools that they can never aspire towards because of the mountains of limits put on their phones.
The home screen on the iPhone sucks, we all know this...but it's made cool to the millions because of a few simple animations. The complainers on this thread are ignoring how much more appeal can be gained with such small improvements. Just think about the incredibly simple animations they use, and how easy some of them would be to duplicate (or improve upon).
Alright, I've probably said too much...I'll go sit down and shut up...

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Do you also believe that if you want to edit video and photos, you need to get a Mac....If you're going to set up a file server, set up a linux box....and if you're going to type up a report for your boss, you need to have windows? I'm pretty sure all three OS's can accomplish each of those tasks, even if one may have a slight edge on another (even if only by stereotype). If everybody thought like that, there wouldn't even be standard Desktop Linux users.
The notion of having some animation on the screen shouldn't be limited to a few specific handsets. We have the technology, we just have to make it work the way we want.
I agree to an extent, I think those mock iPhone apps are useless, but that's because I think the iPhone interface is useless. I prefer to think those apps exist for another reason...to show iPhone users that there's nothing special or cool about their phone. I like being able to say, "I can do everything your phone can, but can your phone do this?" At that point, I can show off the other home screens, interfaces, and tools that they can never aspire towards because of the mountains of limits put on their phones.
The home screen on the iPhone sucks, we all know this...but it's made cool to the millions because of a few simple animations. The complainers on this thread are ignoring how much more appeal can be gained with such small improvements. Just think about the incredibly simple animations they use, and how easy some of them would be to duplicate (or improve upon).
Alright, I've probably said too much...I'll go sit down and shut up...
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very well said. i feel the same way and think that the touch pro definately has the specs to be able to do simple animations like fading in and out of applications. im kind of glad the iphone's home screen is just a boring app launcher. Now if it was able to run plug ins like tf3d and spb mobile shell, windows mobile may be in trouble

why is the iphone mentioned here? the iphone has over (IDK) generations and they all look alike nothing different and just plain boring, i mean it has one main button and the apps are just lined up! "TALK ABOUT A BORING UI"

If you really want animations, you sadly need to look for 3rd party software. Who knows maybe it'll be built into WinMo 7 but for the time being, cool "Iphone-esque" animations can be acquired by using SPB mobile shell. It doesn't necissarily have the same sliding animations, but it does give you a carosel(sp) and shifting block menu animations. Sorry I can't post screen shots, I just recently removed it cuz I couldn't get the weather to work right LOL. But aside from that... You can take one or the other and at the risk of sounding overly cliched, you can't have your cake and eat it....
On a side note... We were having Palm Pre training, and my trainer was bashing the Iphone left n right. It was actually pretty funny. He referred to it as "nothing more than a glorified paperweight for the A.D.D. generation incapable of performing any task without the use of an application". I felt pretty stupid tho cuz half of the applications he was talking about I have on my Touch Pro. Hehehe....

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If you really want animations, you sadly need to look for 3rd party software. Who knows maybe it'll be built into WinMo 7 but for the time being, cool "Iphone-esque" animations can be acquired by using SPB mobile shell. It doesn't necissarily have the same sliding animations, but it does give you a carosel(sp) and shifting block menu animations. Sorry I can't post screen shots, I just recently removed it cuz I couldn't get the weather to work right LOL. But aside from that... You can take one or the other and at the risk of sounding overly cliched, you can't have your cake and eat it....
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I've used SPB for some time now on my Loox and I enjoy it very much. The new 3.0 is a great piece of work but like you mentioned it is still buggy.... The thing that gets me are the graphics! Why don't they develop skins for the shell??? You, I, he, they all have different likes and dislikes and ideas on how our systems should look and feel. If SPB would design a more user friendly version of the Shell it would definitely end up on everybodys mobile.

siggty7 said:
can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
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why on earth would I want something like that? so I can slow down my ppc? so I can be kewl n l33t like the iphone people? if I wanted all that crap, I woulda got an iphone like my wife. I wanted something a little more tweakable and something I could play with.. not a shiny thing for status.

Using themes on MyTouch 3G

New MyTouch 3G Owner here , just switched from a unlocked and jailbroken 16GB 3G iPhone. Got tired of not having 3G, i mean the phone is awesome, just got bored with it. And you need to jailbreak in order to customize.
So basically, I was on the market, and noticed themes, i downloaded one but said i needed GDE, sorry but i am new to this phone. And i heard you can do actual ROMS, but stuff like gtalk, and other main features of the phone wont work. This is why i got rid of the iPhone, i dont really wanna root, just want a cool theme like the xRoms, but i know i need extra widgets.
What can i do to make this happen?

still no answer

na_rsx said:
New MyTouch 3G Owner here , just switched from a unlocked and jailbroken 16GB 3G iPhone. Got tired of not having 3G, i mean the phone is awesome, just got bored with it. And you need to jailbreak in order to customize.
So basically, I was on the market, and noticed themes, i downloaded one but said i needed GDE, sorry but i am new to this phone. And i heard you can do actual ROMS, but stuff like gtalk, and other main features of the phone wont work. This is why i got rid of the iPhone, i dont really wanna root, just want a cool theme like the xRoms, but i know i need extra widgets.
What can i do to make this happen?
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If you look on the market there are applications called aHome and dxTop which are home alternatives that allow you to theme your mytouch without actually having to root it.
I have played with both and actually liked both but decided the world of ROMS are so much better and worth it. If you ever decide on going that route feel free to pm me for any help. i am by NO MEANS an expert but have learned from here and can point you in the right direction.
Hope that helped.

Hey na_rsx
That theme you downloaded requires a program called GDE, its another home replacement application, should be available in the market. But like djflipnautikz said dxtop, aHome or OpenHome are other good ones aswell, just install em have a play and decide which you like the best.
The roms are best way to go though and is no where near as daunting as you might think and you don't lose any functionality if you pick your ROM well

djflipnautikz said:
If you look on the market there are applications called aHome and dxTop which are home alternatives that allow you to theme your mytouch without actually having to root it.
I have played with both and actually liked both but decided the world of ROMS are so much better and worth it. If you ever decide on going that route feel free to pm me for any help. i am by NO MEANS an expert but have learned from here and can point you in the right direction.
Hope that helped.
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I know ROM's are so much better, i actually want the Hero ROM, but isn't it true that if you do a ROM you lose a lot of features that basically makes the phone useless. I check out ahome and dxTop and dabble with it.
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Hey na_rsx
That theme you downloaded requires a program called GDE, its another home replacement application, should be available in the market. But like djflipnautikz said dxtop, aHome or OpenHome are other good ones aswell, just install em have a play and decide which you like the best.
The roms are best way to go though and is no where near as daunting as you might think and you don't lose any functionality if you pick your ROM well
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i did a search on GDE but nothing shows up, I would love to do a ROM, but i use GTalk a lot, i mean if you can link me to some good tutorials and recommend a ROM that would not lose all my abilities i am all for it. I could unlock and jaibreak iPhones like no ones business, so i am sure rooting wont be as difficult.

na_rsx, search on the forums about changing your rom but personally Ive used cyanogenmod roms for a good while without trouble and I use services like Gtalk, gmail, google calendar etc every single day, everything that works on the stock phone works on the modded one with addition of some stuff that isnt available on a stock phone yet =o)
This isn't iPhone where you get nerfed for making modifications

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fxn said:
na_rsx, search on the forums about changing your rom but personally Ive used cyanogenmod roms for a good while without trouble and I use services like Gtalk, gmail, google calendar etc every single day, everything that works on the stock phone works on the modded one with addition of some stuff that isnt available on a stock phone yet =o)
This isn't iPhone where you get nerfed for making modifications
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Hey i just did a search and got a bunch of results, to many for a noob like me to handle, is there a link for a cyanogenmod hero rom, i really want that rom
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thanks for teh headsup

Take some time and read these two links:
Newbie resource links
HTC Sapphire Hacking
I was intimidated in the beginning, but I took the time to read...and I am so glad I did. I came from the iPhone as well. Feel free to PM me with any questions. There is a lot to be learned here if you take the time to learn about it.

Iphone rape?

Is it possible to create an android iphone emulator, like we have wine in linux, and then rape there market place, so that not only do we have all our apps available but all iphone apps as well?

you might wanna look up the abreviation "wine", it stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator, which tries to tell you that wine is not an emulator.
and no, it is not possible. too complicated and not enough computing power.

I laughed at this.

Sounds like this thread should be in a completely different forum/website
I was almost confused as to what the OP was getting at, based purely on your Thread subject title

shokka9 said:
Sounds like this thread should be in a completely different forum/website
I was almost confused as to what the OP was getting at, based purely on your Thread subject title
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that also. everybody tries to use a decent voice around here, and then this.

Maybe make a prayer to the Mobile OS GODS?

Tehmk said:
Maybe make a prayer to the Mobile OS GODS?
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or sacrifice a virgin (phone)...

Even if this was EVEN possible, Apple's just going to take being raped in the ass? Don't think so.

IMO, the iPhone has an iron clad ass that can't be "raped".
I have a 32gs and just got a Hero...android has alot of catching up to do...
On a side note, Mozilla is releasing "Fennec" which will be available for WM, Android, and the iPhone that will use universal web apps...Thats the only shot at leveling the app store playing field.

Iphone has great media capability, and I admire that but I do like the way I can customise and get apps that are virtually impossible on the Apple store. Android does have catching up but it's seems to be doing that pretty fast.

I can do anything with my 3gs that i could realistically do with my hero...
wifi router, tethering, multitasking (with a much better gui), download torrents, smart dialer, folders, themes, a cracked app store, much more conveinent toggles,mobile terminal, firewall, ad-blocker, flash drive, file explorer, stream media, download youtube vids,etc...there's even a different interface for the homescreen itself available..the only main diff i see is custom roms, which isnt even any kind of set back for the iphone...
A stock iphone really cant be compared to an Android device (especially one with a custom rom)in terms of out-of-the-box-functionality and abilities, but a jailbroken iphone is right on the same playing field from a user standpoint.

Your response is correct, to a point. A jailbroken iphone is a totally different device, I can flawlessly multitask with a beautiful interface, have a flash drive app/very easy ftp access, folders on homescreen, insane themes that change the entire look or even a different homescreens all together (Pogoplank), landscape homescreen, mobile terminal, file explorer,toggles,an "app store" with only cracked apps...blah blah blah..the list goes on and on..
point being is that an out-of-the-box iPhone really cant be compared to an Android device, but once you jail break its a level playing field-from a user stand point.

i said **** in a thread once and got given out to haha you make one called i phone rape and are still going strong... kudos!

civicvx94 said:
IMO, the iPhone has an iron clad ass that can't be "raped".
I have a 32gs and just got a Hero...android has alot of catching up to do...
On a side note, Mozilla is releasing "Fennec" which will be available for WM, Android, and the iPhone that will use universal web apps...Thats the only shot at leveling the app store playing field.
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Fennec will never be released on the iPhone
Apple never would accept it to the App Store like they did it on Opera

[Idea] iPhone like scrolling in Android System?

I love my Nexus One.
What i miss is the scrolling from the iPhone OS.
You know, if you are in the settings or browser app and start scrolling until the end, it's like a smooth finish in the iPhone OS.
Anyone knows if that's possible to integrate in the Android System?
I don't have any coding skills, therefore i don't know if it's complicated to implement.
- Darky.

Could you explain, what do you mean exactly? Not everyone have an iPhone.

As soon as I saw the title of this thread I grabbed my popcorn, this is going to be good lol

Brut.all said:
Could you explain, what do you mean exactly? Not everyone have an iPhone.
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Its not that easy to explain ! You can go to youtube to see it yourself. And I agree that the scrolling system on the Iphone OS is amazing.

te_quiero_forever_girl said:
Its not that easy to explain ! You can go to youtube to see it yourself. And I agree that the scrolling system on the Iphone OS is amazing.
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I've just watched several videos, but seems I didn't run into this feature or I just didn't notice it.
I personally think that contacts-list-like scrolling in Android is just perfect, I can't imagine anything better. I could select an item from list of hundreds of items (music app) in ~5 seconds

I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.

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I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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Ahhh, maybe I was thinking about something useful, not just looking, so I might miss it on videos

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I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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maybe he mean kinetic scrolling

Froyo already does this.
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The iPhone has very nice scrolling, I think Androids improved in froyo but there is still that resolution/quality change when holding down to scroll of course those who are lucky enough to have never spent much time with an iphone dont really notice this as a shortcoming . But I think op wants the desktops new bounceback feature to be throughout the ui. Personally the issue I described is what I really hope gets smoothed out if anything; I dont have preference for the ops request but maybe it would be cool if implemented...then again maybe I don't actually understand the ops request.

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I'm also using Froyo (Paul's pre-rooted FRF50). It doesn't have the scrolling I described.
In fact, there is kinetic scrolling in Android, but not the same as Clarkster explained:
Clarkster said:
I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).

Darkyy said:
That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).
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I was going to say the same, Vanilla Android needs a lot of overall UI improvements.. Google doesn't seem to be to good in that department..

Eclair~ said:
I was going to say the same, Vanilla Android needs a lot of overall UI improvements.. Google doesn't seem to be to good in that department..
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Maybe they just want to give people a choice? I don't like Sense, many people don't like it. Currently I could buy N1, you could buy Desire and we both have, what we want. If such effects would be integral part of Android, I would have no choice.

I agree that stock Android needs a design upgrade (prob why 3.0 is slated to have a UI Refresh and they brought over that guy from Palm so obviously they are fully aware of it)
But as for the lil bounce back...to me it doesn't really matter.

I wouldn't bother trying to implement something like this until Google changes some underlying systems. Scrolling on the iPhone is definitely GPU assisted.

Darkyy said:
I'm also using Froyo (Paul's pre-rooted FRF50). It doesn't have the scrolling I described.
In fact, there is kinetic scrolling in Android, but not the same as Clarkster explained:
That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).
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Yes, i really love this scrolling feature on Iphone too, even though i have everything else about it lol

Brut.all said:
Maybe they just want to give people a choice? I don't like Sense, many people don't like it. Currently I could buy N1, you could buy Desire and we both have, what we want. If such effects would be integral part of Android, I would have no choice.
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Um, excuse me, did I say slap Sense on top of Vanilla and be done with it? I said Vanilla itself needs a UI overhaul - it is plain, colorless, lacks design that would add to its overall "pop". And as the OP stated, it also lacks delicious eye candy such as physics. At least Sense tries to appeal to the user.. its shiny, well put together, and 'aesthetically' pleasing - its smooth and differs from Vanilla in oh so many ways.. it attempts to make users ah and ooh when they see it perform.. and no, I am not running Sense on my Nexus, while I easily have the choice to so, it hasn't yet been graced by Froyo..
Hopefully hiring Palm's UI designer will somehow better Android..

Do you mean overshoot like in the ADW launcher? Where it goes a little past the edge and bounces into place?

Kenetic snap back would be nice. With a touch screen there is no tactile feedback so visual indicators like that are quite helpful. It really feels a lot more natural than an abrubt stop at the bottom of a list. I've noticed that some parts of the system are slowly starting to add effects like that. The new launcher in 2.1 does it, and the 3D gallery does something similar as well.
There are a lot of little things about the iPhone UI that you really don't notice until they are taken away. But I don't agree that great UIs are not Google's thing. Every Google web product is super slick and simple and their chrome browser is as well. I think they are just focusing their efforts on other areas first.

If you read some of apple's patents, the kinetic snap back is patented by them so that's probably why nobody else implements it.

[Q] Crazy thought: going to IOS

I was thinking of taking a year off from Android development and see what IOS is like. I doubt it would be permanent, but am curious as to people's opinions. A developer mentor is switching to an IPad and this got me thinking.

have fun dealing with crApple :silly:

I wouldn`t change to an iPhone even if i got it for free tbh. No root, no costumisation and no app drawer.

Im one of the biggest android nut swingers around (talking **** about apple when the opportunity presents itself.)
That being said, let me be the first to say....
GO FOR IT.
You dont know how much greener the grass is over here until your looking back at it.
As far as something simple that works out of the box as it should, its a great device. your never going to have "facebook crashed" or launcher redraws. Simple and amazingly fluid UI, especially since they come with a single gb of ddr3 ram. (Amazing right?)
Kind of like hondas. every one talks crap about them, but that efficent little 4 cyl will ride on some v8's

The iTunes store was nice when it first came out, but it really draws back on the phone. The google play store is great being able to browse apps and then install them right from the web. Backing up is easier and you aren't tied to one computer. I had the original iPhone then got the iPhone 4 before switching to the Galaxy SIII

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The iTunes store was nice when it first came out, but it really draws back on the phone. The google play store is great being able to browse apps and then install them right from the web. Backing up is easier and you aren't tied to one computer. I had the original iPhone then got the iPhone 4 before switching to the Galaxy SIII
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You can not install apps directly from the ITunes store?

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I was thinking of taking a year off from Android development and see what IOS is like.
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When you like the white-ui design iOS is a good choice, because Apple does not use amoled displays. That means less battery drain and better reading.
Google refuses to give users the option of a dark ui, but with root and layers it is customizable and cheaper.

iOS is nice if you can jailbreak but you still cant modify CPU and GPU or under the hood stuff like you can with Android. You can install unofficial apps from cydia like tweaks but its a different ball park. Android lets you do basic things that you cant do on an Iphone.

Just get an iPad and keep your Android. iPads are still a lot better IMO and you can test iOS throughly.

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iOS is nice if you can jailbreak but you still cant modify CPU and GPU or under the hood stuff like you can with Android. You can install unofficial apps from cydia like tweaks but its a different ball park. Android lets you do basic things that you cant do on an Iphone.
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Jailbreak is carrier unlock not root or bootloader unlock?

ronaldheld said:
Jailbreak is carrier unlock not root or bootloader unlock?
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A jailbreak is modifying the system with a custom OS that's been changed. Carrier unlock requires you to be jailbroken. Most LTE phones are unlocked by carrier anyway. Root and jailbreak are similar but not the same. It's like running with administrator privileges on a Windows based system.
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biggiesmalls657 said:
A jailbreak is modifying the system with a custom OS that's been changed. Carrier unlock requires you to be jailbroken. Most LTE phones are unlocked by carrier anyway. Root and jailbreak are similar but not the same. It's like running with administrator privileges on a Windows based system.
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There's a lot of f-u-c-k-e-r-y in that post.
First of, both of you need to go here and read up some.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking.
If you're to lazy, then I'll just tell you. Jailbreaking is VERY similar to root. It allows access and modification to the system. With this you change basic or advance features. You CANT and never will be able to install a "custom OS" on an iPhone. There is maybe 1 semi working Android port. Everything else is all iOS.
Also carrier unlocked does not require you to be jail broken. You can have your carrier unlock it, or pay and give someone your imei for a network unlock code.
And another thing, most LTE phones are NOT carrier unlocked. For example, look at almost everyone of Verizon's phone. Sprint also likes to carrier lock things. But just like an iPhone, the carrier can unlock, or you can pay and give your imei code to get an unlock code.
Please do not try to pass off your assumptions as facts.

I been thinking the same thing, something different. Why not ???

lamplighter13 said:
I been thinking the same thing, something different. Why not ???
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That is my current idea, maybe for a year. Might depend on the fall Nexus models.
Also depends on what jailbreak tools exist here for IOS 9.

Read about jsilbreaking, so there is some potential for modding. Anyone else with suggestions or advice?

Both of my older kids (college age) have iPhones, but I don't think I could ever go that route. That being said, if you just want a phone that works, has unparalleled 3rd party support with an excellent warranty, then an iPhone is the phone for you. I wouldn't recommend buying one if you plan on dinking around with it like we all do with our Android phones. Jailbreaking is sketchy and honestly doesn't get you that much. Most people go to Apple for the excellent ecosystem (and not to mention the warranty that jailbreaking will void), but jailbreaking pops you right out of that and basically puts you completely on your own, sort of defeating the purpose for an iPhone. A lot of carriers have really nice "iPhone for Life" type programs where every year you automatically get the latest iPhone. It's actually all a pretty sweet deal, but it's just not what I want from a phone. I'm a 20 year career network engineer, so anything and everything Apple has been the bane of my professional existence for a really long time, so I don't really care for anything Apple. But opinions vary!

noidea24 said:
There's a lot of f-u-c-k-e-r-y in that post.
First of, both of you need to go here and read up some.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking.
If you're to lazy, then I'll just tell you. Jailbreaking is VERY similar to root. It allows access and modification to the system. With this you change basic or advance features. You CANT and never will be able to install a "custom OS" on an iPhone. There is maybe 1 semi working Android port. Everything else is all iOS.
Also carrier unlocked does not require you to be jail broken. You can have your carrier unlock it, or pay and give someone your imei for a network unlock code.
And another thing, most LTE phones are NOT carrier unlocked. For example, look at almost everyone of Verizon's phone. Sprint also likes to carrier lock things. But just like an iPhone, the carrier can unlock, or you can pay and give your imei code to get an unlock code.
Please do not try to pass off your assumptions as facts.
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Notice I said changed not installing a custom OS. By jailbreaking and modifying with tweaks and other tools, it's definitely not stock once you change it. I also stated that you cannot do any under the hood changes like CPU or GPU in an IPhone. Jailbreaking is similar to root by gaining access but not the same. I have Verizon and I have always been able to take the phones I bought with them to any carrier with the exception of Sprint because they suck. The att iPhone I had once only had GSM chip in so not CDMA carriers for it. I was told when I had my iPhone that I could unlock it from my carrier (which is hell) or do the other way, but was also told that I need to jailbroken for anything. I have modified the ipcc file before and when you backup your stuff, its a custom ipsw file. This is why I have an Android again.
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Moving to iOS ? Sounds more like a punishment than a benefit.
The nice thing about iOS is that they pre-determine everything in advance for you like icon layout, interface, etc, etc without giving you option b/c obviously they know what's best for you. Being told what's good for you.....reminds me of the Federal Government actually.

This sounds like good advice. Is the claim that even with jail breaking, I will not be satisfied?

ronaldheld said:
This sounds like good advice. Is the claim that even with jail breaking, I will not be satisfied?
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Why do you want to modify in the first place?
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ronaldheld said:
This sounds like good advice. Is the claim that even with jail breaking, I will not be satisfied?
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Why do you want to alter the system to start with?
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