Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
Parasitic said:
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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this looks interesting..one thing good about it , is that is the same size as the original dell battery.
I think its a fake capacity, the largest capacity that fits as standard size offered by a decent battery manufacturer, Mugen Power is 1800mah, and if you read the threads here, there is a 2400mah extended battery that has to use a custom battery cover because the battery is twice the depth of the standard battery.
So, i think you will find its not really a 2430mah battery, but a 1800mah battery at best.
if it seems too good to be true...
The best bet is to get one of those external battery packs with 3000-6000mah and a spare cable.
Also be agressive in your control of screen brightness and data use
If you read the feedbacks of that seller on eBay. There are heaps of negative feedbacks from buyers calling him a CON.
I bought off amazon since it had to be shipped to India... think there was only 1 seller in Amazon and he seems genuine.
There's a point with batteries where to make them any more powerful you must make them bigger. If fitting 2430ma into an 1800ma package was possible Mugen would have done it, so yes the rating is a lie.
REF: Gold Battery 2430mAh on eBay...
Total fake and ripoff!! ...so dont be wasting your money...
Here, read "all about it" from my experience in another parallel forae - "conclusion" after testing, on post #21: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305779
Parasitic said:
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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Sorry. Thought you asked for the regular 2400mah.
hi, i bought this battery 2 mounth ago and my phone authonomy is double now. so dont coment if you dodnt try!
Do dell sell them?
Probably a con, but what the heck… I just purchased it. If it’s not 'as stated', I’ll report the bugger.
could keep us posted about this, i looked at the seller's feedback and seems it is fake but wondering if that is true.
The Americans have a saying "You can't put a quart in a pint pot" and that applies to battery power as well. Don't waste your money.
Irritatingly, battery capacity is only shown on the battery itself and not in the device’s battery info. So, is it really 2430mah? Don’t know. But there IS a difference. The 1530mah stock battery ran out of juice alarmingly quickly – like falling off a cliff - when at 30-40%, yet ‘Business Battery’ allows heavy use (downloads, browsing, video… etc) right down to single digits. So now I can use Streak much more (I’d say several hours more of constant use) when battery level is below 50% without worrying if it’s going to suddenly die on me. No gain between 100-50%, though.
I was prepared to slag this off, but from my experience it’s genuinely longer-lasting, especially at low battery levels. How long the battery itself will last only time will tell.
I’m not prepared to test it against Mugen’s 1800mah and spend near 30 quid (plus £18 p&p) in the process.
I've read elsewhere that the cheap Chinese batteries often don't report the available power in as many steps as a 'proper' one does, so they appear to fall slower.
I don't know how old your Dell battery is but it might not be as good as it used to be when new.
Yep, I had to replace the Dell battery (after about 10 months use) because over the past week it became completely unstable – dropping to 70% after 30min use, suddenly back up to 95%, and plummeting from then on. But the stock battery right from the start was always weakest when two-thirds empty, and it drained juice even on standby. Last night it was 100% or ‘fully charged’ for over 3 hours (mostly on standby and some light doc editing)… that had never happened before.
The thing is actually stamped ‘made in Japan’… aren’t Japanese products supposed to be expensive? Looks suspect, but whatever. If it becomes unstable after a month or two then sure, I’ll invest in a nice new Mugen or Dell replacement. But as of now I’m fairly content with a £13 Ecell batt.
Got one of these last week, & have put it through a few recharge cycles etc, unfortunately, it's no better than the stock battery
Oh well, it was worth a try..
As with all cheap batteries it has a short life - no more than 2 or 3 months before it starts to rapidly drain. As a temporary and inexpensive solution it's fine, but don’t expect long-lasting quality.
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I have ordered 2 high capacity batteries for my new HTC HD7 and DHD.
They are simply higher capacity batteries but not made by HTC.
The Desire HD battery is 1600mah (standard is 1230mah) and
The HD7 battery is 1500mah (standard is 1230mah)
My DHD is aweful with its standard battery - I won't even touch it once in the day and after 6 hours it will only have 1/4 left of battery!
The HD7 is much better and seems to last the whole day with call and text use but it is always on its last legs towards the end of the day - I imagine that these batteries will offer at least another 2 hours of good use a day to these phones.
My question really lies in the safety of these batteries... they are not HTC batteries - they are made by some oem somewhere in china I would guess and I don't know if they are likely to leak and damage my phone or not with extensive use. Does anyone have any actual experience with such batteries on their phones?
I did actually buy 2 spare oem batteries for my Nexus One from eBay and have never had problems with them however I have never used them for a sustained period so I don't know for sure...
i am also interested in this. ive seen a few 1500mah batteries on ebay. but my concern is if they are really 1500mah. they could just throw a sticker on there that says so.
as for safety, as long as the batteries output is equal to that of the stock hd7 battery i dont see why there would be a problem
you'll have to let us know how they work when you get em. i might end up just getting one here pretty soon though
It's not recomended and it is risky.Those batteries can really damage your phone and in some extreme cases you can even lose your warranty.You can find this hot topic in various forums, I read a Blackberry user buying one and after 3 months working presumly better the battery started to literally mealt, ouch ! (could have been a bigger ouch btw lol). I'd wait for an extended battery but I'm new to the world of HTC and don't know how they would react. Nokia in 2006 launched a program which replaced some particular batteries and delivered increased cappacity back.
OR buy a 2nd original battery. It's the safest decision and 2460 is still better than 1500
I bought a battery like this for my Treo 700wx. Worked great for awhile and than it started to die really fast. I put back the stock battery and it would even start to die on my pretty quickly. After that, I never would buy another extended battery. Seems hit or miss but just wouldn't trust it again.
^ Exactly. Forgot to add that their cycle life is a lot shorter. While with an genuine one you could go even for years, for an extended one you should expect 6-7 months at best.
Don't buy these batteries. They all look the same and I'm guessing originate from the same supplier. I bought one and it didn't fit quite right, and I worked out the label was misaligned, so I peeled back the label to line it up and low and behold the battery itself said 900mah despite being labelled 1500mah and "replacement for desire hd".
Blatantly trying to rip off users who are desperately trying to get a little better battery life, ironically they are actually getting a lower capacity battery! Beware! Also note, I've had my hd for a month now and the battery life has improved hugely, I always get a full day now! Although its in power save mode by bed time. I have though invested in an external 5000mah portable battery charger for use when I know I'll be away from mains or usb, a much safer option.
Cheers!
Ps this is by far the best smart phone I've owned, iPhone, blackberry storm, palm not a bit as good as this, wish it could deal with outlook meeting requests though, ie accept, reject, send...only fault, and I can live with it for how amazingly it does everything else.
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It's not recomended and it is risky.Those batteries can really damage your phone and in some extreme cases you can even lose your warranty.You can find this hot topic in various forums, I read a Blackberry user buying one and after 3 months working presumly better the battery started to literally mealt, ouch ! (could have been a bigger ouch btw lol). I'd wait for an extended battery but I'm new to the world of HTC and don't know how they would react. Nokia in 2006 launched a program which replaced some particular batteries and delivered increased cappacity back.
OR buy a 2nd original battery. It's the safest decision and 2460 is still better than 1500
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I've bought plenty of generic batteries and have yet to have my phone blow up in my pocket.
Just started using a mugen power extended battery and am getting a lot more use out of the handset, haven't cycled it the recommended 5 times either, so expecting a little more juice as time goes on!Recommended!
Hi judd5000
Good to hear !
I have ordered the 1800 mAh battery from Mugen, hope it will arrive soon.
As soon as I get it performing properly after the correct cycles, I will post my feedback along with phone settings used.
cyb0tr0n
i hope this battery would fix the problem of original battery
I got mine yesterday - even the residual power in it got me through a whole night with GPS on and two email accounts checking once an hour. So far today after first full charge the battery has dropped a little since this morning but is still at about 80% and has been so for at least 2 hours. This is with light to medium use, though I did go out for an hour or so and had to switch from wi-fi to 3G, and I live in a terrible signal area that kills batteries, so so far I'm impressed. If it improves even more with a few more conditioning cycles I think 2 days will be within reach.
Also, and why this would be I have no idea, I seem to have a slightly better signal reception too. This is probably coincidence though, so don't take too much notice of it!
Is this the same size as the original battery or is it bigger? If so do you need a new back cover?
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Is this the same size as the original battery or is it bigger? If so do you need a new back cover?
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exactly the same size
Got just over 30 hours from mine today with light to moderate use, mainly on WiFi but in a bad signal area. And that's just the first charge/discharge cycle so there's more to come. Impressed!
OK, final verdict - the Mugen 1800 mAh battery is much better than the 1300 mAh stock battery and well worth the investment. Once properly conditioned, 24 hours with moderate to heavy use was easily done (GPS on, 2 email accounts on hourly check, an hour or so of newsgroup reading, 1/2 an hour of gaming, an hour or so of web browsing, 1/2 an hour or so on the marketplace, a fair bit of texting and a 20-min phone call in a bad signal area). With fairly light use (email accounts on manual, a few texts, just the occasional 5-min check of Twitter/Facebook and brief web browsing), I've managed over 40 hours and I suspect 2 days is well within possible - I tend to leave GPS on out of habit and have brightness on auto. Knock the GPS off and have brightness on low and that'd save a bit more again.
Obviously having a smartphone you don't use a lot of the functions of isn't ideal, but if you go away for a long weekend and forget your charger, it's good to know you can make it through (if you have the right battery!).
just ordered one.
How much is it?
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I bought a 2430mah Battery and han have everything turned on all day. Heavy usage equals 15-20 hours of Battery life. Will update name... I paid 22gbp british currency. http://www.ebay.com/itm/13054206017...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2154wt_1113
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where can I get one of these from in the uk do you know?
Ebay
metalgearslug said:
where can I get one of these from in the uk do you know?
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As I wrote before... it worked wonders for me:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/13054206017...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2154wt_1113
I should mention that charging time is long... I recon at least 2 hrs for from 0% to 100%.
Is there a way to get a performance comparison between the Mugen battery and this GOLD 2430MAH Japanese one? Thanks
2430mah? so almost DOUBLE the capacity of the original battery, but the same size?!
That's actually physically impossible. If you're lucky this fake "Gold" battery is 1600-1800mah.
50% better than original...
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Is there a way to get a performance comparison between the Mugen battery and this GOLD 2430MAH Japanese one? Thanks
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My 2430mAh is no match for a two day mugen, but still quite a bit better than the original. In my case appx 50%.
you're probably right
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2430mah? so almost DOUBLE the capacity of the original battery, but the same size?!
That's actually physically impossible. If you're lucky this fake "Gold" battery is 1600-1800mah.
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guess you're right, but now I have a Battery that laste a full day.
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guess you're right, but now I have a Battery that laste a full day.
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with the mugen i can do 1.5 or 2 fully days
I am afraid all these batteries are produced in Asia, Mugen included. If we assume the Japanese one is truly Japanese, perhaps this latter is better, but I doubt it, due to its unrealistic capacity.
Given the obvious environmental concerns related to the manufacture of batteries in China, I certainly prefer to wait until some good alternative is provided by a German company (usually very efficient in these jobs). ATM there's nothing convincing on ebay and amazon.
If you are in Europe this involves in addition having batteries shipped within the EC and no extra customs' costs!
i9o said:
I am afraid all these batteries are produced in Asia, Mugen included. If we assume the Japanese one is truly Japanese, perhaps this latter is better, but I doubt it, due to its unrealistic capacity.
Given the obvious environmental concerns related to the manufacture of batteries in China, I certainly prefer to wait until some good alternative is provided by a German company (usually very efficient in these jobs). ATM there's nothing convincing on ebay and amazon.
If you are in Europe this involves in addition having batteries shipped within the EC and no extra customs' costs!
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Just take some research,u will find That mugen is the biggest manufacturer of battery
& every stock battery is from china because all the company build them there for Save money
so if u wait for an european battery well good luck ^^
Just keep in Mind to not buy a batterry on eBay,it can be dangerous
Disclaimer: I know there is already another thread on Mugen HD2 Extended Battery 2,600mAh, but I would like to state that this is an official review since Mugen has provided me with a review unit to debunk the many bad comments given concerning their battery quality. This you can read from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294124.
[BACKGROUND]
I have contacted www.mugen-power-batteries.com directly after hearing many comments concerning their false claims. I was surprised that they actually responded by providing me a review unit of the 2,600mAh. It is now on the way.
My review unit will be coming in about 2 weeks time. I will try to conduct an extensive review to determine the actual worth of the battery and whether they work as advertised. I will be conducting a few tests specifically on the battery, as objectively as possible. This would cover video playing, 3G usage, full valuation of the battery charge (using battery widget pro) to name a few.
If you would like a particular test to be conducted on the battery, please state and give a few ideas below. I will be comparing them against the original 1,230mAh from HTC.
I think as faithful users of our HTC HD2, I would really want to get the best extended battery. If this provides even 90% of the advertised capacity, it is already worth the money. Anything less would be pointless.
Thank you.
Larger cell will indeed be good but 2600mAh will be higher than reality as Mugen have admitted this already in a round about way on responses to another testers results.
A new standard HTC cell & new standard size 1500mAh Mugen is the test that needs to be done.
Any chance of a sample 1500mAh review unit ?
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Larger cell will indeed be good but 2600mAh will be higher than reality as Mugen have admitted this already in a round about way on responses to another testers results.
A new standard HTC cell & new standard size 1500mAh Mugen is the test that needs to be done.
Any chance of a sample 1500mAh review unit ?
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I will try to get a 1,500mAh review unit after this one is done Oh, have Mugen admitted to that? Would be good if you can provide me with the link. Thanks!
Cant Wait for the review
Im Planning on getting one myself a 2,600mAh
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I will try to get a 1,500mAh review unit after this one is done Oh, have Mugen admitted to that? Would be good if you can provide me with the link. Thanks!
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This was response to Dougs battery testing.
Not in any way slating Mugen but the mAh ratings marked on their cells are higher than what would be achieved in any lab test.
1500mah is the one I would love to see tested side by side with genuine cell in device & technician mAh testing.
Mugen cells are ok quality but for the asking price we need total transparency on actual cell capacity ...
I have no idea how good that battery is, but I bought this one about 6 months ago and it's working very well, doesn't gain much heat and it doesn't discharge itself much. Average battery consumption in standby is 6mA. All I can do is recommend you guys this one. And cover is really strong. And it's "bit" cheaper than Mugens
[email protected]/MB434B/review_MB434B.html
looking forward to seeing your test results...i just got me a 2400mAh battery and it lasts me about 15hours under heavy use...
Hi guys,
Sorry for the silence... I just received the battery today! Give me some time to get it charged and conditioned for testing
Let me know what else you would like me to test it with.
Display use is interesting for me, such like browsing etc.
Open a browser with some ads or something and look how long the Battery live..
My Galaxy SII gets there 4,5h.
Start the Match
Idc really care about that battery. I know its fake, but is there any real battery that's better then the original stock? 1400, 1450, 1500?? Not the fat ones with the kickstand
Just an update, I am still conditioning the battery. The first charge/recharge was really pathetic, at 12 hours before it was flat (moderate-heavy use). The second charge/recharge is much improved, I am on 25 hours on (moderate use) with 25% left (taking pictures, listening to music, games, surfing, etc.). I will begin formal testing after 4 full runs to find the optimum condition.
One things I have to say is that the ROM does play a high factor. I was on Dorimanx 3.0 and somehow the governors for oc/uc is not working properly as I kept getting some high drainage. Once I reverted to 2.9, the drainage was gone and it seems to sip battery at a much, much lower rate.
So many factors!!!!
By the way, I really like the battery cover. It is not cheap like the other China made products (unlabelled). I have already 4 different covers, and while I would prefer a metal back cover, this is the 2nd best
Can You please also start the heavy display usage test?
And put some pics please
Greetings
erlern said:
Just an update, I am still conditioning the battery. The first charge/recharge was really pathetic, at 12 hours before it was flat (moderate-heavy use). The second charge/recharge is much improved, I am on 25 hours on (moderate use) with 25% left (taking pictures, listening to music, games, surfing, etc.). I will begin formal testing after 4 full runs to find the optimum condition.
One things I have to say is that the ROM does play a high factor. I was on Dorimanx 3.0 and somehow the governors for oc/uc is not working properly as I kept getting some high drainage. Once I reverted to 2.9, the drainage was gone and it seems to sip battery at a much, much lower rate.
So many factors!!!!
By the way, I really like the battery cover. It is not cheap like the other China made products (unlabelled). I have already 4 different covers, and while I would prefer a metal back cover, this is the 2nd best
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I have a few questions which i hope you dont mind answering:-
1. How did you recondition the battery?
2. Does your kernel recognise the battery's full capacity or do you do a battery pull then it jumps back up significantly? Im facing this problem at the moment...
thank you in advance!
how long will the battery last for heavy use like playing 3d games?this is important as i use my phone for gaming most
damnshah said:
I have a few questions which i hope you dont mind answering:-
1. How did you recondition the battery?
2. Does your kernel recognise the battery's full capacity or do you do a battery pull then it jumps back up significantly? Im facing this problem at the moment...
thank you in advance!
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1) I conditioning it by charging it overnight for 6-8 hours and then depleting it until it powers off (Actually, this is based on the instructions they gave in the parcel). I need to do it 5 times. Once done, I will be able to charge and stop charging when the indicator hits 100%. I basically use Battery Widget Pro (they have a feature called 'calibration'). Apparently, the battery itself states that it is 2,300mAh, but I think this is not accurate (hence the testing). You will know that the battery is fully charge when the indicator goes down to 0 (zero) mA (shows that the battery is not receiving any more charge).
2) Most cheap batteries have wrong indicators (e.g. temperature detection is not working, no indication of battery capacity). And yes, they suffer the need to 'pull the battery out first' before an additional amount is given. I bought one a while back, apparently one that has 3,000mAh. My observation is that the indicators are really gone. In fact, it will slowly go down to 50%, after which if you pull, it will give you 70%, once it goes down to 15%, it will last for a long while (30 minutes of browsing over 3G) before going down to 14%. Using that battery, I have been able to last 31 hours of moderate use (1 hour of music, 1 hour of gaming - not 3D, a few hours of browsing and a lot of photo taking). It costs only USD12 (thereabouts), which to me is the best deal yet. Down side of that battery is the very poor back battery cover. Using Battery Widget Pro (you have to charge fully and discharge until it shuts down and charge up again continuously), I got an estimated charge capacity of 1900mAh. Not bad don't you think?
The Mugen 2,600mAh easily matches my fake 3,000mAh one. The question is by how much. Sorry for the delay but my HD2 is my daily phone. So, I cant conduct full test like Engadget and other websites. But I'll do my best
relldroid said:
Idc really care about that battery. I know its fake, but is there any real battery that's better then the original stock? 1400, 1450, 1500?? Not the fat ones with the kickstand
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Try Andida batteries. I had the 1600mAh one and it was slightly better than the original (giving me about 1300mAh). I had that a while back.
After much charging and recharging, I can confirm that the battery has about 2,200+mAh. See the attached images to see the estimated calculation using Battery Widget Pro.
Charging takes about 2 hours plus using the wall charger. The last 2% takes the longest.
As per request I ran 2 emulation apps (sorry, no 3d games), fpse & n64oid. The former ran Strider 2 while the latter ran Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Do note that I have overclocked my phone to 1.6ghz. All in all, it ran for 4.5 hours with 15% battery left. I'm pretty sure it could have clocked 5hours easily. I think that it is a good performance for 2.2kmAh battery don't you think? See the images below for a read of what other apps I was running. I managed to deplete the whole charge after nearly 10 hours of extremely heavy usage!
What do you guys think? Okay?
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[Not the Mugen 2,600mAh Battery]
As an aside, I took and strip out the cheap battery which I bought for USD10, which claimed a 3000mAh, which only was about 2000mAh (+/- 200mAh) and took some photos of it. I can understand these extended batteries better. I am not an electronics person, but this would explain why it takes a restart to 'recognise' the 'remaining' battery on our devices.
Notice that they are basically two lower capacity batteries which are slapped together with the thin connectors and wrapped together with scotch tape.
I am not sure whether Mugen's the same, since it does not suffer from the 'restart-phone-to-get-additional-battery-reflected' scenario. However, I wonder whether there are any manufacturers who would just manufacture a genuine 2000mAh without merely slapping two products together (like in this picture). In light of this, it is much better to carry an external battery charger (anything more than 6,000mAh around!).
Anyone with electronic expertise want to comment on the pictures, please do.
Opps, forgot to add the photos of the battery and the battery cover which I mentioned. I find that after the first fall (yes, I tend to have accidents with my HD2 ... ) there is a slight creeking sound with the battery cover (nothing is chipped though). It is a rubberised battery cover, unlike the original metal cover. Still, the feel of the cover is great to the touch.
I am no longer using this device, but my dad is! It still works and have survived loads of damage... mostly dropping the device with the battery cover!
I though I share this site with those who don't know.
Mugen Power is a reputable aftermarket battery manufacturer, and you will find many good feedback, reviews and recommendations about Mugen batteries on XDA.
The main site is here: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/
I am myself a Mugen product user and I would like to share once again how amazed I am by their customer support and social network persence, like for example if you follow up Mugen Power on facebook http://www.facebook.com/MugenPowerBatteries, they give 7% discount on their stuff. Many fans on facebook represents brand loyalty to clients, and you can see many fan comments and simple questions which are answered accordingly. If you have problems with you battery, it drains quickly, it charges slowly they exchange without questioning. Worldwide shipping is free of charge. Overall it is worth noticing.
Concerning Verizon Moto Droid Bionic Mugen has 2 products:
Its a 2000mAh Extended Battery, it fits the original cover. Slightly more powerful than original just enough to resolve the issues that might accure with factory battery.
And for extra power there is 4000mAh Extended Battery which enlarges the phone with an extra replacement backdoor, but improves the battery life at least 2.5 times.
I hope this little review will help you in your quests for battery replacements.
For questions, ask their facebook or write directly on their site, I always got my responces there so far.
I have ordered myself the 4000mAh battery for testing, and hope to post user experience results as soon as the battery arrives.
If you could, let us know if that battery will fit under the OEM extended cover. If so it would make a nice upgrade.
that is exactly what i was going to ask. let us know please
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I purchased the 2000mah mugen and it does fit under the OEM door.
Battery life with it though was actually less than the stock for me.
At times it would get really hot and just drain out when in use.
I keep it charged and use it as a spare in case I need it when taking long trips.
This is just my experience with it. Yours might be different, but as of now, I don't recommend the mugen 2000mah one.
Haven't tried the 4000.
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dellenrules said:
I purchased the 2000mah mugen and it does fit under the OEM door.
Battery life with it though was actually less than the stock for me.
At times it would get really hot and just drain out when in use.
I keep it charged and use it as a spare in case I need it when taking long trips.
This is just my experience with it. Yours might be different, but as of now, I don't recommend the mugen 2000mah one.
Haven't tried the 4000.
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That should not be normal. I had same sort of negative experience with my other phone (galaxy nexus); i have written Mugen about it and got my apology and warranty replacement without questioning that is why i have mentioned my total respect to their customer support earlier.
If your warranty is still valid you should definitely write them a note about your problem, maybe they will help you with how to root it or something, try this one:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/contacts
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the 2000mAh version fits in original backdoor as @dellenrules says
and the 4000mAh is a big one, it shall arrive with extra backdoor to fit in the phone, i cannot wait mine to arrive!!
The mugen 2000mah battery in actually should last longer.
Because of how it's designed, it gets hotter quickly. As a result, it kills the battery a lot quicker.
When ever I get a phone, replace the battery with a mugen.
When I'm working in the office, it's pretty much "death by AC." My phone can last me all day with no problems.
When I'm on the road, at the gym, or any place where it isn't cool, the battery dies quickly.
No it isn't just a bad battery. I purchased 2 and they both behave the same way.
The stock battery is better for me since I'm not always in the office. I use the mugen as a backup and keep it charged and ready to go when I have to take those long trips.
I already get about 15 hours our of my stock battery on a single charge.
Not too worried about battery live at the moment.
Thanks for your concern.
Mugen Power 3600mAh Extended Battery for Samsung Droid Charge / US Cellular Samsung G
Comments of Mugen Power Battery from Facebook user Anlyn Bankos:
HLI-i510XL 3.7V for Samsung Charge: This battery was a complete waste of money. It was a gift and my dad seriously over paid for a battery that won't hold a charge. It's to the point where every day now I have to plug my phone in during the day b/c my phone says "battery low", I plug it in and "wow look at that - I'm charged to 100%". Imagine this happening 5+ times a day. I can't be without a charger because if I can't plug the phone in immediately, it dies. If I do plug it in, the battery miraculously recharges to 100% in mere seconds, only to go through the whole charade again 10 mins after I unplug the phone. I have dug out the original battery and am going back to that. Crappy product.
Thanks for the site information, good news for the facebook discount too, i did not know that.
I bought a Mugen 2000 mAh battery about six months ago. During that time it worked great, average time 16 - 18 hours according to Badass Battery Monitor. (For comparison, my standard 1735 mAh battery lasts about 12 hours. I mainly use WiFi and 3G, turning on 4G only when needed.) Then last week, the Mugen started falling off a cliff. It would go from 80% to 40% instantly and then drain to 0% in just a few minutes. This happened again and again. Finally I asked my wife to test it in her Bionic, just to rule out problems with my phone, and sure enough it behaved the same way with hers. So for $50 I got a decent increase in battery life but it only lasted 6 months. YMMV of course. Now I'm using the stock battery again and getting the standard 12 hours. I ended up ordering the 2670 mAh extended battery from VZW, which is currently on half-price sale for $25. It should be here tomorrow. Probably won't order from Mugen again in the future.
I love my 2750 extended battery.
Luke
Hi
See lots of 4000+ batteries and standard 3000, but are there any good 3500 or 3800? (want to keep normal back, no added bulk)
Ones I have seen look cheap and nasty (no brand) and I have a feeling they will add nothing extra.
Anyone got a 3500/3800mAh, did you get noticeable difference, worth it?
Thanks
Its not possible to have a higher capacity (mAh) Li-ion battery without increasing its size.
I personally use the TrendON LG G4 Battery kit and have been really happy with it. While the batteries last about ~75% as long as the OEM battery, it comes with 3 (depending on the bundle you choose) and a wall charger. Really great deal and an 18 month warranty! http://www.amazon.com/TrendON-3000-Spare-Replacement-Battery/dp/B010P2BQ2S
Hope this helps!
I ordered a (supposedly...) 3500 mAh battery online. It's the same size as the stock battery. My expectations are low, most likely won't actually live up to the rating etc. Either way I'll let you know after it's in my hands and I try it out for a day or two. Hoping it doesn't turn my beloved G4 into a pile of melted plastic.
rick09 said:
I ordered a (supposedly...) 3500 mAh battery online. It's the same size as the stock battery. My expectations are low, most likely won't actually live up to the rating etc. Either way I'll let you know after it's in my hands and I try it out for a day or two. Hoping it doesn't turn my beloved G4 into a pile of melted plastic.
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Yeah I know what you mean, the ones I have seen look so cheap and ready to do more harm than good.
If some good company would just make one around that level, but bigger than 3800 and you need new case/adds bulk.
Fingers crossed one you get is all good.
genardas said:
Its not possible to have a higher capacity (mAh) Li-ion battery without increasing its size.
I personally use the TrendON LG G4 Battery kit and have been really happy with it. While the batteries last about ~75% as long as the OEM battery, it comes with 3 (depending on the bundle you choose) and a wall charger. Really great deal and an 18 month warranty! http://www.amazon.com/TrendON-3000-Spare-Replacement-Battery/dp/B010P2BQ2S
Hope this helps!
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You haven't paid much attention to LIPO packs since the beginning, have you? LIPO batteries are constantly getting smaller while packing more and more current capacity. A denser battery pack is possible just as a LIPO pack with the same size dimensions having less capacity than 3000mAh
Bit shocked Mugen have not done one, I see they tested a 3100mAh, but a extra 100? is it worth it, thought for sure they would have tried a 3200/3500mAh, but all there is out there is cheap no name stuff.
voodoochild2008 said:
Fingers crossed one you get is all good.
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Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
any link or screenshot please? would like to get one
EDIT: is this the one? http://www.amazon.com/3500mAh-Rechargeable-Replacement-Battery-BL-51YF/dp/B0122K53DO
rick09 said:
Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
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Many thanks for the review, seen many no name ones,
http://www.miniinthebox.com/mini-sm...157328772762&gclid=CJepqaWQicsCFUko0wodJlsLDg
http://www.amazon.co.uk/YHC-BL-51YH...qid=1456066969&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+g4+3500+mah
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mbuynow-380...p/B019H2FQ2I/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
And the ones that look like yours, no idea who makes the better one.
rick09 said:
Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
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Rick coulda you link the one you bought? http://m.banggood.com/BL-51YF-3500mAh-Li-Polymer-Battery-For-LG-G4-H818-p-987003.html ???
Hi All,
Dude your looking on the wrong places. Try AliExpress for Batteries and more! A 3800mah Battery an't going to cut it man. You'll need a case for it. Like mine with a 7700mah Battery. Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/accessories/2-extended-batteries-test-t3320662 for my testing and pictures
Look here for the Batteries and more http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20160223124746&SearchText=3800mAh+lg+g4
Edit1: A 3500mah would actually fit without a custom bought case http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2x-3...52&btsid=2dd82693-22fc-46b6-8277-cb8017d83bd8
voodoochild2008 said:
Hi
See lots of 4000+ batteries and standard 3000, but are there any good 3500 or 3800? (want to keep normal back, no added bulk)
Ones I have seen look cheap and nasty (no brand) and I have a feeling they will add nothing extra.
Anyone got a 3500/3800mAh, did you get noticeable difference, worth it?
Thanks
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I got a 4500mah battery on the way to my house. Its a slim one so no new back is neede. Im not going to say where i got it or anything about it until i test it and everything. I dont want anyone odering it and somehow the battery makes the phone catch fire lol.
Eddiekool12 said:
I got a 4500mah battery on the way to my house. Its a slim one so no new back is neede. Im not going to say where i got it or anything about it until i test it and everything. I dont want anyone odering it and somehow the battery makes the phone catch fire lol.
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I hope it is not fake. I will wait for your opinion about sot for example. Good luck.
Ps. Found that on ebay. 4500mah battery that fits without adding back cover (slim). I checked opinions aaand:
"It capacity is 3000 mAh, it's just fake, seller is lier, ignore my questions.
Reply by ******* (Feb-14-16 23:10):
PLS charge 8-12 hours before using.Negative can't solve any problems, blacklist!"
Hello There,
a friend of mine would also like to extend his battery life, so an answer if the 3500 mAh or 3800 mAh did the job would be great, Thanks!
Are there any alternatives which do not massively extend the phones case?
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Hello rick09,
Which 3500 mAh Battery did you test which had a great performance?
Thanks Mate
rick09 said:
Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
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thedropdead said:
Hello There,
a friend of mine would also like to extend his battery life, so an answer if the 3500 mAh or 3800 mAh did the job would be great, Thanks!
Are there any alternatives which do not massively extend the phones case?
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Hello rick09,
Which 3500 mAh Battery did you test which had a great performance?
Thanks Mate
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The 3500mah is the only one that would fit. any higher then a Custom case would be needed. I have one on mine and it's not that thick. I actually bought another case to fit on top of the one that came with my 7700mah battery. just look at my post and see the difference
Sorry for such a late respond but here is the one I purchased http://www.banggood.com/BL-51YF-3500mAh-Li-Polymer-Battery-For-LG-G4-H818-p-987003.html
Saw someone posted the same link a few posts up too. Figured I'd reply to let you all know that it's still working great. Actually had to swap to the original for a little when I was running out and didn't have time to charge. I honestly couldn't wait to get this battery back in. Still getting over 4 hrs screen on time, auto brightness, GPS and WiFi always on, NFC always on, Bluetooth on a good amount of the time and connected. I placed an order for a second one.
rick09 said:
Sorry for such a late respond but here is the one I purchased http://www.banggood.com/BL-51YF-3500mAh-Li-Polymer-Battery-For-LG-G4-H818-p-987003.html
Saw someone posted the same link a few posts up too. Figured I'd reply to let you all know that it's still working great. Actually had to swap to the original for a little when I was running out and didn't have time to charge. I honestly couldn't wait to get this battery back in. Still getting over 4 hrs screen on time, auto brightness, GPS and WiFi always on, NFC always on, Bluetooth on a good amount of the time and connected. I placed an order for a second one.
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Ha, i get 14hrs of on-screen time with my 7700mah battery
voodoochild2008 said:
Hi
See lots of 4000+ batteries and standard 3000, but are there any good 3500 or 3800? (want to keep normal back, no added bulk)
Ones I have seen look cheap and nasty (no brand) and I have a feeling they will add nothing extra.
Anyone got a 3500/3800mAh, did you get noticeable difference, worth it?
Thanks
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krater1212 said:
I hope it is not fake. I will wait for your opinion about sot for example. Good luck.
Ps. Found that on ebay. 4500mah battery that fits without adding back cover (slim). I checked opinions aaand:
"It capacity is 3000 mAh, it's just fake, seller is lier, ignore my questions.
Reply by ******* (Feb-14-16 23:10):
PLS charge 8-12 hours before using.Negative can't solve any problems, blacklist!"
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It just camein today. Doesn't feel as if it is cheap. Slightly heavier than stock battery. I haav to go through some charging cycles to let the battery settle. Will report back with anything new.
Been using the battery since my last post and well i like it. With stock battety i get no more than 2 hours sot and the new one i can get up to 3.5hrs. An im a heavy user. Using an anker quick charger it takes about the same amount of time to charge both batteries. Although the new battery does look really cheap it doesn't behave like a cheap battery. No over heatings and no shorting out when using too much. I provided some pictures of the battery just in case you want to know what it looks like.
P.S. I do go back and fourth between both batteries when they die out. For the first week of having it i soley charged both batteries inside the phone with the quick charger. Now i have an actual little battery charger which saves me a lot of time between charges.
WAIDroid said:
Ha, i get 14hrs of on-screen time with my 7700mah battery
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and I get 2 months on-screen time wit my Optima Yellow Top
the OP asked for a slightly higher capacity battery that fit flush with the OEM battery door, that gave better performance without adding any extra bulk and limiting case options. Of course a 7700mAh is going to last longer than a 3000-3800mAh. But that wasn't his question. They're EXTREMELY limited on case options, and take up a LOT more space in your pocket. It's something I wouldn't go for, but a 3800mAh battery that allows the use of all the OEM backs and cases while giving over 25% more juice sounds quite appealing to me