Best way to improve GPS? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I'm a recent owner of a SGS, and like many others, GPS is somewhat of an issue to me. However, reading around, there are a lot of fixes and solutions, and I want to know what people generally recommend to do on latest stock firmware to increase its accuracy?
Thanks!

I know it's a dumb name, but give "GPS AIDS" a try from the market. It was primarily made for SGS users. Try the free version first if still available...
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stock jvt gps is really good in comparison to out-of-box performance, and a lot better than wife's htc desire running on cm7.1. I get 10+ satellite lock in a few seconds, with a 10m accuracy. honestly, I don't need anything more than that (more often than not, I DO know where I am...) . Just make sure gps.conf file points to your region.
I tried recently a couple of these "fixes" ($omator, pfittech) but reverted back to stock files. I did not find any significant improvement, but of course you can give it a try, maybe in your region things are different

Well, thing is I don't know if GPS is working or not for me. In Google Maps the most accurate I can get is 30 meters, is that using cell triangulation or GPS?

Apparently 30 meters is not GPS from what I've been reading around. Guess that means I haven't used it at all.

Try GPS AIDS.
My GPS never worked before, I tried GPS AIDS and it gave me surprising results .

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Anyway, I tried GPS Aids, and I get 10/11 found, and in use alternating between 5-10.
I just want to confirm, what does accuracy average at for you guys? It was mainly at 30 meters for me most of the time, with it rarely at 10m. Is there a way to increase accuracy?

Lesiroth said:
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Anyway, I tried GPS Aids, and I get 10/11 found, and in use alternating between 5-10.
I just want to confirm, what does accuracy average at for you guys? It was mainly at 30 meters for me most of the time, with it rarely at 10m. Is there a way to increase accuracy?
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Mine is accurate enough to tell which house I'm at. In Google Maps, there is no blue circle around my location (well, only when it's still searching).
I use GPS AIDS. If the program doesn't work, read about what it does. You can also edit the files manually.

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Mine is accurate enough to tell which house I'm at. In Google Maps, there is no blue circle around my location (well, only when it's still searching).
I use GPS AIDS. If the program doesn't work, read about what it does. You can also edit the files manually.
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Nope, I have a blue circle around me all the time. Guess that means it's not working well for me?

Lesiroth said:
Nope, I have a blue circle around me all the time. Guess that means it's not working well for me?
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Yep, it probably could be better than that. Give GPS AIDS a try.

Lesiroth said:
Hello, I'm a recent owner of a SGS, and like many others, GPS is somewhat of an issue to me. However, reading around, there are a lot of fixes and solutions, and I want to know what people generally recommend to do on latest stock firmware to increase its accuracy?
Thanks!
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How to do GPS Fix
http://www.hdtechvideo.com/?p=43

Ever since I flashed to JVR stock, my GPS has been locking on the satellites like a charm. I'm not sure if the credit goes to the new JVR or higher firmware, but definitely give that a try if you're still on some of the older Gingerbread firmwares.

GPS AIDS doesn't seem to improve that much, still usually on 30m, rarely at 10m, not really accurate.

I really need help with this, thanks in advance!

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[util] vib GPS fix for rooted users

just saw this come across twitter:
Eugene373
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Default {UTIL}Vibrant GPS Fix for Rooted User's
As everyone Know's, the Samsung Vibrant GPS does not work Correctly, after getting some what **** when trying to use Maps, I decided to track down the Issue's with it!
The .zip is for Rooted user's only & I take no liability if it hoes you're phone.
I flashed from ClockworkMod Recovery, Can't say it will flash via stock recovery.
File Download > http://www.4shared.com/file/0reX2yyi/Vibrant_GPS_Fix.html
<edit 8-9> theres an updated version in 2nd post
<disclamer> this is not my work, i am in no way responsible .
original thread located here > http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=15337#post15337
I posted it in the Correct thread.. Why do people insist on Posting other's work before the Author can Make the Thread?.
I know everyone is just trying to help, but I post on several other Forums as well. I can't post on them all at once lmao!
Thanks for posting it neverless.
~Eugene
Correct GPS Fix Download > Vibrant_GPS_Fix.zip
What do you mean by you people....
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What do you mean by you people....
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he didnt say you people he was refering to people in general
Lol I'm just playing bro
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Lol I'm just playing bro
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lol well you can never tell on here
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lol well you can never tell on here
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Sarcasm never translates well over text... Unless you use italics..
getting a lock is a minor problem compared to MAINTAINING an accurate lock, does this fix address that issue or just the lock on time?
Well I gave this a shot, and now the GPS doesn't seem to function at all. The market tool GPS TEST, Navigation, Latitude, and the built in GPS testing tools (from the phone menu *#*#1472365*#*#) all hang requiring a force close.
But this is really no worse than the largely non-functional GPS I had in the first place so I'm not bothered.
UPDATE: Using "Fix Permissions" from Rom Manager fixed the FC's.....will be testing GPS now to see if it's any better.
UPDATE#2: Taking my daughters back to my ex-wife (oh the joys of divorce) I ran Navigation during the trip, letting my oldest daughter drive so I could pay attention to the accuracy. It took a good while (about a minute) to get a proper GPS fix, but once it did it remained accurate during the entire trip except for one instance where it bounced a few hundred yards off the route for a couple of seconds. This is a marked improvement over my previous experiences where it would bounce off route like that numerous times during a Navigation run.
So...better...but still a bit less accurate than I'm used to with other Android devices.
Italics you say. Nice I'll give that a try next time.
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Tried it. Got a fix in about 5 seconds indoors and pretty accurate. The compass is still all over the place. But as for accuracy it helped a lot thanks eugene.
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I changed mine to ms-based and it works well. In certain buildings, however, it cannot get a lock on any satellites even when it detects as many as 10.
A weird thing that started recently is that in lbdtestmode, when running a position test, it takes forever to get a lock or sometimes to even find satellites. However, if I open google maps, it proceeds to quickly lock my position with 10m accuracy. Then if I run a posistion test it finds a 8-12 satellites and locks on quickly.
What is weird is that it used to be the opposite: I would have to get a lock in posistion test before google maps would get a lock. May also just be a coincidence or a placebo effect.
thats becuase google maps uses network to get intial fix.. change it to ms assisted not ms based which does the same thing
Thank you for the post Eugene, my gps is actually functional now, locked on very fast and is accurate. Donate link?
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lgkahn said:
thats becuase google maps uses network to get intial fix.. change it to ms assisted not ms based which does the same thing
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I forgot to say with wireless network location disabled.
Going to Be Posting my Daily Rom that I use shortly that has the gps fixed & a few other nice little feature / skin / mod's added to it..
Likely will be another week before I get to play with android again
~Eugene
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Going to Be Posting my Daily Rom that I use shortly that has the gps fixed & a few other nice little feature / skin / mod's added to it..
Likely will be another week before I get to play with android again
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can you tell us the specifics you did that "fixes" the gps problems?
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can you tell us the specifics you did that "fixes" the gps problems?
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I posted the Files! Just Diff them.. It's not that hard honestly
Thanks for the patch eugene373 but unfortunately it seems to do nothing for my GPS. Still takes forever for sats to get into view and never locks in to more than 1.
Unfortunately this didn't work for me at all. I even re flashed to stock then applied the gps fix and for me the gps was worse then any other thing I have tried. I never got a satellite lock, used to at least get 1 and it put me at times on the other side of the street,the accuracy decreased greatly

[Q] GPS Issue... Actual problem or ar we being manipulated by Carriers?

I have a serious question here about the GPS issue. I am really starting to think that this GPS issue is somthing that is being manipulated by specific "carriers" so that if you are a big GPS user you will us the "carrier specific" GPS app like TeleNav.
The reason I wonder this is because as I read the threads I see tht people with "unbranded" phones do not seem to have as much GPS issues as those with branded ones.
As I read the new froyo posts I see that those who have upgraded through Kies "officially" (and there by are unbranded) are reporting that GPS is locking onto 7 - 8 satelites in under 30 seconds and get a PERFECT positioning while those who have used the reg. hack method (and there by are branded) still report that the GPS is horrible.
I may be way off here and dont mean to sound all "conspiracy theory" or anything but this is just my 2 cents. What do you think?
It's incredibly unlikely. All the SGS phones are branded in some way I believe, and all use the same hardware.
Some firmware's are simply broken GPS drivers. Remember, when Telstra in Aus shipped the Desire, they shipped broken GPS too (and HTC hasn't had similar complaints), but it does show that accidents happen.
Part of the difference in performance may simply be the load of apps running affecting CPU speed, affecting timing, or other random stuff.
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It's incredibly unlikely. All the SGS phones are branded in some way I believe, and all use the same hardware.
Some firmware's are simply broken GPS drivers. Remember, when Telstra in Aus shipped the Desire, they shipped broken GPS too (and HTC hasn't had similar complaints), but it does show that accidents happen.
Part of the difference in performance may simply be the load of apps running affecting CPU speed, affecting timing, or other random stuff.
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Thanks for the reply here on this. I see what you are saying but if the issue is something related to the issues you mention above then why when a "real" navigatiin app is used (like the telenav app i have on my phone) does it lock on right away and is acurate almost to the penny? Google Maps and Google Navigation are WAY OFF by like 1500 meters... This still does not make sense to me...
Perhaps the issue is on Googles side?
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My track and Google map really suck.
You can almost try any other program and they're always better.
The problem is that they do continue to next point they have calculated and if they se you have turn Away from your course they still use the point they calculated and move you to the point you are.
But you get waste data that's not true.
That's way you see so bad track on sgs when you upload them to Google map.
This is why many complain on the gps on sgs, but if they used a real gps program, and preferred an offline program, then they should se the gps do work.
Look at my stat when i drive my car.
In all other program its always spot on, but not with these program.
As you can se i almost have a perfect lock with a signal strength over 40 on four off hem.
So to say to me that sgs gps is broken and it is a hardware fault is to funny.
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DamianGto said:
My track and Google map really suck.
You can almost try any other program and they're always better.
The problem is that they do continue to next point they have calculated and if they se you have turn Away from your course they still use the point they calculated and move you to the point you are.
But you get waste data that's not true.
That's way you see so bad track on sgs when you upload them to Google map.
This is why many complain on the gps on sgs, but if they used a real gps program, and preferred an offline program, then they should se the gps do work.
Look at my stat when i drive my car.
In all other program its always spot on, but not with these program.
As you can se i almost have a perfect lock with a signal strength over 40 on four off hem.
So to say to me that sgs gps is broken and it is a hardware fault is to funny.
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What program is this picture of and what gps program do you use?
~Edit~ If the google programs suck so bad then why do they work so well on the iphone and even on my old WM Samsung Omnia i910? They are spot on with those devices...
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yiannisthegreek said:
What program is this picture of and what gps program do you use?
~Edit~ If the google programs suck so bad then why do they work so well on the iphone and even on my old WM Samsung Omnia i910? They are spot on with those devices...
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Its gps test.
Well i don't know why it don't work well on sgs. I just know it don't.
I use copilot. But there are many program you can use and they still work better.
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DamianGto said:
You seems not to understand how gps works.
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Ignore Damian. Listening to his GPS expertise actually makes you dumber, because it's always wrong (he is an anti-scientist). I think he mean "it seems I (Damian) does not understand how GPS works".
Every opinion does matter, but your unwillingness to actually learn about the topic you claim you are an expert on, has finally gotten to me, and I'm reporting you. You are hindering useful conversations, and whilst I accept disrespect can happen occasionally, we don't need jerks who are littering the forum with incorrect information.
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when a "real" navigatiin app is used (like the telenav app i have on my phone) does it lock on right away
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Ignore what DamianGTO said. Quicker locking might be perception for starters. Some Car nav apps start polling the GPS as they are booting (and some I've tried take a while to load). It might also be that some car navigation applications have been tweaked to select the optimum minimum accuracy dynamically. This wouldn't be possible in My Tracks, and if it does happen, it might not be in Google Navigation (this is simply speculation though). In an area where there are no other roads for 50m for instance, you only need an accuracy of 50m to place you on the road in an accurate enough place. When you look at the map it will seem mostly accuracy, but the GPS chip itself might be saying you are actually 24m to the side of the road.
No GPS can lock immediately, so something else must be going on. Even SiftStar 3's take 6 seconds or so to lock on hot start. It may also be that Google maps/mytrack are using more location sources, and some are causing issues. Remember, they all use the same API. When I tried Google maps though, I locked immediately too, probably because it was a warm/hot start (and had recently been used). Remember, GPS has 3 locking modes, hot, warm and cold start. More information is available on: http://www.gsmarena.com/glossary.php3?term=gps . All GPS receivers are affected by this, and all programs.
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Google Maps and Google Navigation are WAY OFF by like 1500 meters... This still does not make sense to me...
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They are possibly using wireless networks/skyhook too as a location provider, whilst others might not (all android apps use the same location api to interact with the hardware actually). Turn it off in GPS settings, and I wouldn't expect this to be a problem.
Google might have reasons for using it if it's available in Google Maps at least. It might also be that some mobiles use mobile networks for tracking better than ours, and do use them in a way that provides much more accurate results. Summary of this though, is turn use wireless networks off!
DamianGto said:
My track and Google map really suck.
You can almost try any other program and they're always better.
The problem is that they do continue to next point they have calculated and if they se you have turn Away from your course they still use the point they calculated and move you to the point you are.
But you get waste data that's not true.
That's way you see so bad track on sgs when you upload them to Google map.
This is why many complain on the gps on sgs, but if they used a real gps program, and preferred an offline program, then they should se the gps do work.
Look at my stat when i drive my car.
In all other program its always spot on, but not with these program.
As you can se i almost have a perfect lock with a signal strength over 40 on four off hem.
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For starters, SNR of 40 was probably taken in a field with very few trees around, on a good day without moving. But those values are possibly meaningless anyway. Plenty of us know for instance that the accuracy values can be incorrect.
Secondly, My tracks and other raw GPS tools will show the real track your GPS is producing. On sparse roads, clever algorithms can cover for poor GPS. Whilst commercial apps often do better, and Google nav might be a bit quick to put you on a side street, that's an algorithmic problem with the app. On dense roads or roads with forks, the GPS could be better. We also don't really know the refresh rate either, and that can cause issues.
I haven't really seen much proof the cause is because of your theory though. And I kind of wish you'd stop pretending as though all your guesses are fact.
Anyway, in summary, the GPS is ok for navigation, but isn't really fitness grade. Navigation apps allow a huge range of errors, and whilst I agree the offline apps seem to have better, in dense areas, many have encountered serious navigation issues, and at least in my case, it isn't accurate enough for jogging I feel.
Andrew. You still don't understand that sgs can have good gps.
Look at the picture i posted.
Its when i was moving and i do have almost a perfect lock and signal strength.
You still ignore this fact.
You also ignore that more and more people do report that mytrack and Google map don't work.
You also don't answer what op do ask.
You also write bad things about me time after time in every tread you can.
Try to understand all sgs phone is not the same.
Some are better some are worse.
Is true a use it for car navigation, but i could use it for other things to. The result would be the same.
My gps in the sgs do work very good.
If you understand how signal strength works then you should know that.
So stop telling lies about me.
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DamianGto said:
Andrew. You still don't understand that sgs can have good gps.
Look at the picture i posted.
Its when i was moving and i do have almost a perfect lock and signal strength.
You still ignore this fact.
You also ignore that more and more people do report that mytrack and Google map don't work.
You also don't answer what op do ask.
You also write bad things about me time after time in every tread you can.
Try to understand all sgs phone is not the same.
Some are better some are worse.
Is true a use it for car navigation, but i could use it for other things to. The result would be the same.
My gps in the sgs do work very good.
If you understand how signal strength works then you should know that.
So stop telling lies about me.
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I've seen your picture. Once again, it proves nothing (I can make a similar one). All you've proven is that you get good reception whilst standing still. Congrats. You haven't proven the location is accurate though, or proven anything else.
If it were just a case of "my tracks" and "google maps" (you mean nav), are dodgy, PROVE IT!
Damian's challenge
You are quick to tell everyone else they don't know what they are talking about. You CLAIM Mytracks and Google Maps is broken.
So now, to prove your point, grab a track recorder. It doesn't have to be mytracks, but it MUST be one which records tracks. Then, go for a half hour walk, at all times sticking to a footpath, or a consistant distance alongside the roads. Then post results. If the signal is waving around significantly, congratulations, your GPS isn't suitable for fitness like ours, but is still fine for driving. However, if the track remains relatively consistent, so we can identify what side of the road you are walking on, you've proven it's hardware.
You mean software at the end...
Anyway, I don't understand why people in this forum always link locking speed to gps accuracy. I am on jpm, I lock in less than 20 seconds all the time, but navigation with google maps/navigator is ****ty. Point is, if I look at gps data with gpd status app, I don't see any jumping of digital compass or latitude/longitude. This is puzzling. Is there a navigation program like navigon that I can try to test, for free or a reasonable price? I don't need another navigator, so I really don't care about spending 100 for navigon...
Cheers
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I've seen your picture. Once again, it proves nothing (I can make a similar one). All you've proven is that you get good reception whilst standing still. Congrats. You haven't proven the location is accurate though, or proven anything else.
If it were just a case of "my tracks" and "google maps" (you mean nav), are dodgy, PROVE IT!
Damian's challenge
You are quick to tell everyone else they don't know what they are talking about. You CLAIM Mytracks and Google Maps is broken.
So now, to prove your point, grab a track recorder. It doesn't have to be mytracks, but it MUST be one which records tracks. Then, go for a half hour walk, at all times sticking to a footpath, or a consistant distance alongside the roads. Then post results. If the signal is waving around significantly, congratulations, your GPS isn't suitable for fitness like ours, but is still fine for driving. However, if the track remains relatively consistent, so we can identify what side of the road you are walking on, you've proven it's hardware.
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The picture actually tells that he is moving in a speed of 25 km/h
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The picture actually tells that he is moving in a speed of 25 km/h
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Sorry, my bad. But it doesn't really change much, because there is no way of knowing if the accuracy value being shown is correct in that picture unless it provides coordinates. In fact, there is no way of knowing if the SNR is valid at all. Hence why he needs to show tracks, based on raw data as the quality of those are mostly dependent on the quality of GPS.
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Sorry, my bad. But it doesn't really change much, because there is no way of knowing if the accuracy value being shown is correct in that picture unless it provides coordinates. In fact, there is no way of knowing if the SNR is valid at all. Hence why he needs to show tracks, based on raw data as the quality of those are mostly dependent on the quality of GPS.
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Well, as I usually also get around 5 meter accuracy and around 15 satellites I could do some tests with some tracking software too, do you know any good alternative to my tracks?
My shall i prove more for you?
You never listen and understand when people tell you that they have a gps that work.
You seems not to understand that signal strength is a key value to a good gps. You always want people post my track or other bad program.
You don't understand how a good gps works.
A good gps program knows when they get a faulty data and ignore that. Mytrack don't and keep logging it like true data. That why you se wierd tracks.
Also a good gps program use other sensors to make the position more correct.
I don't have any problem at all to navigate were ever i want to travel.
I also use the gps almost every.day.
So stop telling me that the gps don't work.
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Seems like there is nothing wrong with the GPS when walking at least.
On my way to the food store:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...23463503511037.000494650ddc3df0ebc99&t=h&z=16
on my way back:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...64939,12.25894&spn=0.008962,0.019248&t=h&z=16
Both are pretty much accurate, just at some turns the turn has a bit too large radius.
Does this prove that the GPS works fine for walking?
I can't try it by car because I have none, but I tried with my bicycle, but there I have to agree that it isn't too accurate, yet it is still accurate so you could guess which road I am going on, but at turns it just goes off somewhere else.
Everyone... Thank You for your replies. Pwehaps my question was stupid or way off base but i diddnt mean for my topic to become an arguement. I just wanted to know why the google gps software doesnt seem to work.
I will try one item mentiined by andrew and turn off wireless network for gps use and see if that makes a difference.
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Gps is a hot issue for some people so they can't stand that someone else has a working sgs.
But if the gps is way of its broken. It so simple.
Wireless don't do much different. Its just an aid.
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DamianGto said:
You never listen and understand when people tell you that they have a gps that work.
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You've said Maps is faulty and mytracks is.You keep coming up with detailed explanations of the algorithms, but I can't even imagine how you know them to be true, when you have clearly never recorded a raw track outside of mytracks before.So show us a raw track using something which isn't Mytracks, and then you can continue telling everyone else they are morons.
EVERYTIME I ask you to prove your claims you point to SNR values, present some amazing new research which you are unwilling to prove properly, and go into an endless cycle, get defensive, and ultimately, move onto the next thread whilst ever proving anything.
I simply ask you prove them once. You have NEVER done that.
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Wireless don't do much different. Its just an aid.
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*facepalm*. EXCEPT, when a program is using multiple location services if GPS drops out and resorts to Wireless, then the location might in some areas, be WAY off. Turning it off may help in situations where GPS isn't available.
For instance, whilst on the bus the other day, in Google maps I found my position was WAY off, because GPS wasn't working (the bus's coatings must have blocked the signals). Turned out after turning off Using wireless networks I had no location, but no location was as useful as a location which was clearly off by kilometers.
Wireless networks are useful in some cases, but if you are after precision, and don't want the possibility of seriously wrong positions being used as a fall-back, yes, turning it off can help in some applications. Maybe not all of them (because some might properly use GPS only), but some definitely (especially since Android developers can't assume the unit will have GPS, and apps like Google maps can benefit from location guessing).
I have record alot of Mytrack but they are always faulty.
That's way i have figure out how it works.
If you think Bout what i did write you should understand that's its true and that's way people have a big problem to get a good track.
This is not a problem only on sgs. Many phone has this.
Why i talk about signal strength is that's a very good way to show how good the gps is working and get the data.
OfCourse you need to lock at the signal strength with when you are standing still and moving.
If you block the antenna you will get low signal strength and get bad readings.
You still ignore this facts.
I have showed that i do have a sgs with great gps that has very good signal strength.
You still don't prove anything your self.
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Best rom/kernel for the most accurate GPS?

My wife and I are big into Geocaching now. Can anyone tell me what rom/kernel has been the most accurate them? It doesn't matter to me what version of android I use. I am finding that NFX 2.1 gets me to the relative position but acts a little crazy at times. As far as CM6, I am finding it to be even less accurate. I'd like to avoid buying a handheld gps if I can.
I have also tried downloading the GPS Status & Toolbox from the market and reset and downloaded GPS assist data. While this works sometimes, I find that it often freezes the GPS temporarily.
Any thoughts guys? Thanks in advance.
P.S. I have already searched the forum for answers and have not found anything specific to what I am looking for.
Any stable rom/kernel combination will be as accurate as any other, in any given situation. The algorithm used to determine GPS positioning is imbedded in the radio software, and is independent of the rom or kernel.
I've been using Google MyTracks for a long time, on many different roms, to record my mountain bike rides deep in the woods. I've not seen any accuracy differences between any of the roms/kernels I've used. I've observed that accuracy is highly dependent on the quality of signal I'm getting from the satellites ... deep in the woods, my position might be off 20 feet or more, but out in the open prairie I'll be accurate to 3 feet or less.
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My wife and I are big into Geocaching now. Can anyone tell me what rom/kernel has been the most accurate them? It doesn't matter to me what version of android I use. I am finding that NFX 2.1 gets me to the relative position but acts a little crazy at times. As far as CM6, I am finding it to be even less accurate. I'd like to avoid buying a handheld gps if I can.
I have also tried downloading the GPS Status & Toolbox from the market and reset and downloaded GPS assist data. While this works sometimes, I find that it often freezes the GPS temporarily.
Any thoughts guys? Thanks in advance.
P.S. I have already searched the forum for answers and have not found anything specific to what I am looking for.
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The accuracy of the GPS is actually very dependent on hardware. Where you get assistance in accuracy is using the cell tower positions to help your location results in combination with the GPS receiver itself. That has a lot more to do with a radio than a kernel. I would try to make sure your using the most recent radio, if it doesnt work better, then flash an older one. There are several geocaching apps on the market that help you with your GPS coordinates. There is no perfect science to geocaching, and your phone GPS will never be as accurate as a dedicated mobile GPS unit. That being said, I use my phone for it, and the extra time it takes to find the cache is part of the enjoyment of doing it in the first place!! Good luck!

Does the GPS accuracy suck on the incredible S?...please say it ain't so!!!

I need a phone that has a working gps. I have a samsung galaxy s, and gps sucks!!! I'm not talking about number of satellites, i'm talking about accuracy (on the app "gps test"). On my samsung it jumps around from 32 to 64ft accuracy and puts me on parallel streets.
Today a store rep let me take a htc incredible S in my car and drive around a bit. I was shocked to see that the gps accuracy was worse than my galaxy s!!! It found and locked onto many satellites (sometimes 11 of 11) but the accuracy sucked. It would fluctuate anywhere from 30 ft to 120 ft accuracy using the gps test app. At some points it would show me off of the road. Is this a common problem on this phone? I borrowed a friends motorolla atrix the other day and had an accuracy of 4.9ft! Thats accurate to like 2 steps! Would really appreciate your feedback. If your gps accuracy is good on your phone, then what do you think could have caused the one i tried today to be so horrible? Thanks
Nope not for me, but we're in different parts of the world. Mine's quite accurate and fast actually, with AGPS assisting.
Has always sucked for me in India.. then again I'm in the city and most of the time indoors
When I say it's always sucked, I mean it's always sucked for all my phones Incredible S does the same (quite so) lame job as my old Nokia did.. nothing to write home about. I just wrote that off to my region/country/conditions here or whatever
If I get it within 100m, I'm excited 4.5 meters? lol..
GPS accuracy really sucks on Incredible S. I've used HTC Hero for more than 1 year and never had any problem. Hero's GPS accuracy as sooo perfect. But I'm VERY disappointed with Incredible S. I've tried all possible ways, like calibrating the GPS, deleting and re-downloading a-data. But it's same. No improvements.
For me it works with no problems. Uk and Austria I used it in. Sometimes the lock times can be long, so I hardly ever disable gps, so it can collect almanac data. It is not a battery drag, it only uses lot of battery when it's active in the notification area. I use it to navigate on foot as well and I can tell it is seriously correct on location. +-1m
I had crap location info in maps and Igo myway only when the device was waiting to get a proper gps lock and only wireless location data was available which is useless for navigation purposes.
Maybe "GPS test" sucks? Works fine for me.
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GPS accuracy really sucks on Incredible S. I've used HTC Hero for more than 1 year and never had any problem. Hero's GPS accuracy as sooo perfect. But I'm VERY disappointed with Incredible S. I've tried all possible ways, like calibrating the GPS, deleting and re-downloading a-data. But it's same. No improvements.
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Same here. Was a Hero user before switching to IncS. I still have both devices so I tested them side by side. Hero is much better in every aspects, including lock time, no of sats discovered and signal strength. I believe IncS is limited by its antennae design.
From Canada here, and it sucks ass. My Samsung Tab works flawlessly.
projective said:
From Canada here, and it sucks ass. My Samsung Tab works flawlessly.
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Hahah yeah I'm also from Canada and this is the worst phone for gps i've had by far
odd, i'm from Canada and i've always had awesome gps accuracy and speed on a couple of htc phones. locks within 5 seconds and accurate within 5 to 7 meters.
you guys sure you are using correct settings? perhaps it's carrier dependant, although I doubt it.
GPS works fine here in Canada as well.. which rom are you guys using? I've noticed that certain roms cause me more issues with GPS but ARHD works fine for me!
It was equally bad on every rom i've tried.
Maybe it is location specific I'm in the east coast of Canada.
Also, the test something for me..
In location settings turn off location by wireless network and try gps only
@scooby
have u tried using the updated gps.conf file from the gps thread? I also have location by network setting off.
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@scooby
have u tried using the updated gps.conf file from the gps thread? I also have location by network setting off.
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Yeah I did. I'm using that now actually and it still sucks. My accuracy is 3600 meters lol
did u add "supl" to your apn type?
syc7090 said:
did u add "supl" to your apn type?
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Yeah default, supl, mms is already there
scoobysnacks said:
Yeah default, supl, mms is already there
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jeez, maybe it is location specific...
syc7090 said:
jeez, maybe it is location specific...
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I never had an issue on my x10 though, or on sense roms if I chose wireless network location.
Now I still get nothing even when choosing wireless.
Just tested my Inc S with "GPS Test" app and I'm getting between 5-7 satellites and accuracy between 9.2-15.1 feet, from within the car. I'm running the latest OTA updated radio, with Hboot 1.16. Also, with Sygic Aura, got a lock within 5 seconds...I guess it depends on the location and radio version.

can't get a GPS fix at all

Recently I've flashed CM 10.1.3 (stable version). Everything is pretty much great (except battery...it's draining pretty fast but I'm ok with that since I got a portable charger).
But the number one thing that is annoying me the most is that I can't get a gps fix no matter what. It doesn't matter whether I'm indoors or outdoors, or what app I'm using (waze, Google maps, etc.), or what "gps fixing" apps I installed. I just can't get a freaking gps lock anywhere!
Before I flashed this ROM, the gps didn't really work well but at least it worked...
I've searched the entire world wide web (obviously started from XDA) and found some interesting answers but none of them helped me even a bit.
Is this a known issue in cm 10.1.3 or is it just me?
thanks in advance
I recently have CM 10.1.3 on my 4X HD l don't have that issue... Try flash rom again.
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Have you tried the fast gps fix in android general development?
Possible solution
Try this... Might help.
Aimbot91 said:
I recently have CM 10.1.3 on my 4X HD l don't have that issue... Try flash rom again.
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yes, I did but to no avail...
Rudjgaard said:
Have you tried the fast gps fix in android general development?
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I have no idea what thread you're talking about but I will take a second look, even though I didn't find anything in there.
Aimbot91 said:
I recently have CM 10.1.3 on my 4X HD l don't have that issue... Try flash rom again.
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Already tried it, didn't help.
deepmanu said:
Try this... Might help.
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This looks promising... I will report back if it worked for me or not, as soon as I get off work.
thank you to all of you guys for answering!!
Ok so I've tried modifying the gps.conf like deepmanu suggested, but still couldn't get a gps fix at all.
I know that LG screwed up with the gps in this device and that it is so sensitive that even if I replace the ROM
(I don't think that the CM team played with the gps files), it won't work at all.
Has anyone experienced this and found a solution? because right now the only solution that I'm think about is getting a nexus 5 or something =\
stoned92 said:
Ok so I've tried modifying the gps.conf like deepmanu suggested, but still couldn't get a gps fix at all.
I know that LG screwed up with the gps in this device and that it is so sensitive that even if I replace the ROM
(I don't think that the CM team played with the gps files), it won't work at all.
Has anyone experienced this and found a solution? because right now the only solution that I'm think about is getting a nexus 5 or something =\
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I managed to get my GPS working better by tweaking the gps.conf file, but nothing wonderful. If I am sat in my car I get almost no signal, yet my Nexus 7 is high-quality, 13 sats and almost instant lock. The GPS chip/receiver is crap in our device and that is why I will never buy an LG again. Apart from the GPS I love my phone, but that is too important a part for me.
stoned92 said:
Ok so I've tried modifying the gps.conf like deepmanu suggested, but still couldn't get a gps fix at all.
I know that LG screwed up with the gps in this device and that it is so sensitive that even if I replace the ROM
(I don't think that the CM team played with the gps files), it won't work at all.
Has anyone experienced this and found a solution? because right now the only solution that I'm think about is getting a nexus 5 or something =\
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How about changing your baseband to v10x?
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thank you. Works for me
deepmanu said:
How about changing your baseband to v10x?
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Thought about it, but changing the baseband to a lower version means to compromise on lower quality phone calls and these kind of stuff.
And I'd rather have a terrible gps signal with great phone calls quality, than the other way around.
SimonTS said:
I managed to get my GPS working better by tweaking the gps.conf file, but nothing wonderful. If I am sat in my car I get almost no signal, yet my Nexus 7 is high-quality, 13 sats and almost instant lock. The GPS chip/receiver is crap in our device and that is why I will never buy an LG again. Apart from the GPS I love my phone, but that is too important a part for me.
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Maybe it's not the best chip, but still good enough. Samsung Galaxy S2-series phones all have a way worse receiver, I was barely getting any signal without network.
Problem with custom roms is that nearly all of them only include the very basic necessary configuration. See CM gps.conf and stock gps.conf (included in Omni), there's a big difference. I don't say this switch did wonders (it wasn't bad at all before too), but surely stabilizes signal.
Well, i try a lot of things, but, to play ingress is not working. How can i connect gps via Bluetooth?
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Well, i try a lot of things, but, to play ingress is not working. How can i connect gps via Bluetooth?
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You can't. To connect to an External GPS source is an immediate violation of the Ingress ToS and the app will refuse to launch. This is to assist, at least partly, in stopping players from spoofing their location to cheat.
So, you can connect to an external GPS source, but you can't play Ingress while doing so.
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You can't. To connect to an External GPS source is an immediate violation of the Ingress ToS and the app will refuse to launch. This is to assist, at least partly, in stopping players from spoofing their location to cheat.
So, you can connect to an external GPS source, but you can't play Ingress while doing so.
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Sure? **** my gps doesnt work like it should... Try a lot of roms, kernels, gps fix and configs... i don't want to spoof, i only want to use a very good gps signal...
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Sure? **** my gps doesnt work like it should... Try a lot of roms, kernels, gps fix and configs... i don't want to spoof, i only want to use a very good gps signal...
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I know, I have the same problem with mine no matter what I do. I normally just end up using my N7 tethered instead.
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You can't. To connect to an External GPS source is an immediate violation of the Ingress ToS and the app will refuse to launch. This is to assist, at least partly, in stopping players from spoofing their location to cheat.
So, you can connect to an external GPS source, but you can't play Ingress while doing so.
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SimonTS said:
I know, I have the same problem with mine no matter what I do. I normally just end up using my N7 tethered instead.
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i really cannot play this way... Its really bad now with the regional scores and the checkpoints, Last night i made 89km(+89 back to home, key distance) and i have to wait 19 minutes to capture the portal... (overpass the checkpoint limit of course)
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i really cannot play this way... Its really bad now with the regional scores and the checkpoints, Last night i made 89km(+89 back to home, key distance) and i have to wait 19 minutes to capture the portal... (overpass the checkpoint limit of course)
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The best thing I have found is to make sure you fully close the Ingress app (Sign out and clear it from memory) when you get to the new location, then restart it and see if it works - that sometimes seems to force the app to acquire a GPS location quicker. Other than that, buy a different phone - not ideal I know.
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The best thing I have found is to make sure you fully close the Ingress app (Sign out and clear it from memory) when you get to the new location, then restart it and see if it works - that sometimes seems to force the app to acquire a GPS location quicker. Other than that, buy a different phone - not ideal I know.
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:laugh: thanks anyway for the help! (nexus 5 in mind)

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