I have searched for this, and have seen some answers, but none of them specific to the Captivate.
Here's my scenario: My wife's phone has some dead pixels on the camera sensor, so I'm planning to take it in for warranty. I'm going to be flashing back to stock and all the other prep steps, but she really likes the setup exactly as it is now.
I know that I can use Titanium Backup to make a backup of everything and bring it back once she has the new phone (that's my backup plan if Nandroid isn't an option). However, having used a nandroid backup on my own phone when switching roms, I know how easy it is to get everything back in place really fast.
My question is this - can I simply make a nandroid backup of her setup now (Firefly 3.0, default FF3 kernel) and then restore it to her new phone (after flashing FF3.0, of course)? Or is this going to be more heartache than it's worth and I should just prepare to do a TiBu restore later?
As background, I've also seen that people mention the Nandroid doesn't worry about modem/kernel/bootloaders, and I know I can do partial restores of items in Nandroid (system only, apps only, etc).
Any information / personal experience anyone can offer would be appreicated.
Should work, don't see why it wouldn't, if it doesn't then the worst case scenario she will have to set her stuff up after a tibu restore.
No chance of bricking = no harm in trying.
studacris said:
Should work, don't see why it wouldn't, if it doesn't then the worst case scenario she will have to set her stuff up after a tibu restore.
No chance of bricking = no harm in trying.
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That makes sense. I'll give it a whirl, and I'll post the results back so that there's some reference for anyone trying it in the future.
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First, I have to thank the XDA forums helping me come over from my long WinMo background. Mad Props...
Being new to Android and my nexus one, I'm feeling the ROM flashing bug and want to try out a couple of different ROMS but don't want to have to add all of my accounts each time since I use crazy long, nearly impossible to type, passwords.
Is there some way to restore some of the configuration of my N1 between different ROM flashes?
Sorry if this has been covered, but I can't find it. It looks like the data is backed up in my nandroid backups, but I can't seem to find out how to only restore configuration.
Thanks
Rick
Take a look at Titanium Backup.
It works really well.
You need to be rooted and superuser in order to use it.
To find out more about adding superuser to a stock ROM, check out this thread at Modaco.
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Nandroid backups are really "just" disk images afaik.
There's no way that I know of to extract information from them.
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Royan
Ok, thanks. I am running the backup right now and will give it a try tonight. Worse case, I just restore the nandroid backup and try again.
I've always wondered, what stuff is safe and not safe to restore in Titanium Backup. I've done a full restore when switching between like roms, but I'm guessing that wouldn't be a good idea if you were going from cyanogen to a senseUI rom.
Hi guys, all of us usually makes a nandroid backup right after we root up phone and install ROM manager (w/ the htc sense still in).
So i have that original backup made. I was wondering, do we make a nandroid backup after we have installed the cyanogen mod? This is so incase anything happens - I can just go back to the state when i first installed my mod and not any further back. I have not heard any suggestions of doing this previously leading me to believe it will not work.
Any input is greatly appreciated !
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Well you really dont need one of when you first install the rom, as you can do a "factory reset" in recovery to get back to that point (rom with no apps). You should make a backup as soon as you get all your apps set up, then every few days after that, deleting older ones as newer ones are made.
It certainly won't HURT to make an immediate backup of your Sprint ROM after rooting. That's what I did. Then install the Cyanogen 6.1 mod, and enjoy it. I upgraded my sdcard to 8GB, for more room, and have probably 6 different Nandroid backups , at various points of my progress. Probably overkill, but it's not much of a chore either.
Some people might call it "fun".
Yeah, you don't *have* to do it ever, and *can* do it whenever. It just makes sense to do it before you're about to flash some new stuff, which is why that's all you see.
You can always move them off the sd card and onto your computer too. I have like 2-3 gigs worth of them on my couple comps. (You know, in case I have to go back to how my phone was on 7/15/2010 just before I flashed....something, 40 flashes ago.)
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Yeah, you don't *have* to do it ever, and *can* do it whenever. It just makes sense to do it before you're about to flash some new stuff, which is why that's all you see.
You can always move them off the sd card and onto your computer too. I have like 2-3 gigs worth of them on my couple comps. (You know, in case I have to go back to how my phone was on 7/15/2010 just before I flashed....something, 40 flashes ago.)
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Same here. I got little nandroid bastards running around all over the place. Got em on at least 3 pc's that I know of maybe 4. Oh, and let's not forget the ones on my sd card.
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Make a Nandroid once you get things up and running. If you ever need to wipe because a problem is occurring you can just restore the Nandroid and skip the setup process.
I was curious to know if someone could provide me with a step my step method of changing ROMs on a rooted captivate. I'm currently running Firefly ROM and want to know how to switch ROMs without loosing my apps and the data stored in them (such as high scores on games and such).
I tried Titanium Backup but it seems to cause problems with the system phone app when i switch and do "backup all user apps and data -> restore all user apps and data".
Also when i try to use rom manager to create a backup...the backup crashes, goes to a samsung "Android System Recovery"....the up volume button moves my selection down and the down volume moves my selection up. The power button doesn't select anything. When I press the menu button, all the text disappears.
I just want a sound way of backing up ROMs and Apps (with their data) to easily switch between ROMs more freely and with security of mind.
Thanks, and please respond.
Best to ask this in the Q&A section, and check the stickies. Tons of good info up there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Put the ROM on your sdcard
Boot to recovery
Choose the zip
Install
Reboot
Enjoy
Yes, please post questions in the Q&A section as mentioned above.
Also, disregard opcow's reply; he did not read your whole post and it does not apply to you. His method will wipe everything on your phone.
Most of the suggestions you'll get are TiBu (Titanium Backup). When you make a backup (I'm assuming you're doing a batch backup with TiBu Pro), only select User Apps. Don't select User Apps + System ... (don't remember what it's called). This way, you'll save your apps with their settings and info, but you will not back up your phone's settings, such as WiFi networks, GPS, etc.
Trust me though, because of the diverse way that ROMs handle things, you don't want to back up your system settings, otherwise you may run into issues such as those you mentioned before.
Another note: do not use ROM Manager!
It's a nice piece of software, but it doesn't work a lot of the time. This doesn't apply to your backups, you're just restoring the backups incorrectly, but regardless, don't use ROM Manager.
Anyway, to correctly apply a Nandroid Backup, you must have the same exact kernel and modem installed ATM on the phone that were present in the Nandroid Backup. For example:
Let's say you have XYZ ROM installed with SuckerPunch #47 kernel and the KP1 modem. Then you make a Nandroid backup of that ROM.
After that, you go and install ABC ROM with Speedmod kernel and JK4 modem. After a day of use, you want to restore your XYZ Nandroid backup.
In order to do this, you must install the SuckerPunch #47 kernel and the KP1 modem on top of the ABC ROM before you restore the Nandroid backup.
If you don't do this, you'll run into issues.
Hopefully that will fix your issue. I tend to steer clear of Nandroid backups because of all the issues that I've seen people have with them, but if you're looking to restore your phone to the exact state that you had it at one point, then a Nandroid backup is the way to go. Otherwise, use TiBu.
Also, before you backup or restore (the first thing you should do after you install TiBu) is to click on the button that says "Problems?". This will install a version of BusyBox that is known to work with TiBu. If you have a version that doesn't work correctly, then your backup or restore will not work correctly either.
Good luck!
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Also, disregard opcow's reply; he did not read your whole post and it does not apply to you. His method will wipe everything on your phone.
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You're right. I just read the first sentence. This question gets asked a lot and I just go into autopilot.
OP, It is true that my method will wipe your phone, but that's actually what you want unless you are going flashing a no-wipe upgrade, in which case my method would work just fine. But yes, generally your will want to back up with something like Titanium Backup. Backing up apps and data is fine, just don't restore system data and it shouldn't cause problems. I've done it at least 5 times in the last 2 days.
I would avoid nandroid backups. They aren't mostly useful after reverting to the ROM you were running when you made the backup, not for restoring apps.
Use MyBackup pro its more user friendly.
Thanks, a couple more follow ups.
Thank you very very much. Another quick follow up question.
My version of clockwork mod (v2.5.1.0 Speedmod ULFK) gives me the following options:
-Backup DATA: data + dbdata + cache
-Restore DATA
-Backup ALL
-Restore ALL (Be careful!)
....which 2 do i select to backup/restore a nandroid effectively. Based on your responses, ill most likely be doing TiBu, but just to better understand the architecture of the phone and the clockwork files i wanna know.
Also, is there a way i can change / upgrade the clockwork recovery version of my phone...whats the most recent version if i decide to do so?
Aside from this, Thank you to everyone who is helping me out with this issue. Much appreciated.
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You're right. I just read the first sentence. This question gets asked a lot and I just go into autopilot.
OP, It is true that my method will wipe your phone, but that's actually what you want unless you are going flashing a no-wipe upgrade, in which case my method would work just fine. But yes, generally your will want to back up with something like Titanium Backup. Backing up apps and data is fine, just don't restore system data and it shouldn't cause problems. I've done it at least 5 times in the last 2 days.
I would avoid nandroid backups. They aren't mostly useful after reverting to the ROM you were running when you made the backup, not for restoring apps.
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Do you know if there is a way to restore apps using Titanium Backup without having to manually click through and accept each and every app?
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Do you know if there is a way to restore apps using Titanium Backup without having to manually click through and accept each and every app?
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Buy the pro version. If you flash allot it is a must
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Do you know if there is a way to restore apps using Titanium Backup without having to manually click through and accept each and every app?
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Like the above post says, buy Titanium Backup Pro; it's worth it, and it features the Batch Mode, which allows for what you're asking.
Ompalompa287 said:
....which 2 do i select to backup/restore a nandroid effectively. Based on your responses, ill most likely be doing TiBu, but just to better understand the architecture of the phone and the clockwork files i wanna know.
Also, is there a way i can change / upgrade the clockwork recovery version of my phone...whats the most recent version if i decide to do so?
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For a full on Nandroid Backup, select Backup All... and obviously Restore All... when the time comes that you need to restore your backup. But like opcow said, it's best to stay away from Nandroid backups... they can get messy
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Use MyBackup pro its more user friendly.
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I cannot agree. It may look more user friendly, but it has a lot less support. I've never even heard of it, whereas TiBu has almost every feature you could want. Plus, look at it this way:
Linux is in no way easier to use than Windows or OS X (though OS X is based off of Linux, but disregarding that...). However, it can do a TON more than Windows or OS X, but you just need to get used to it. Same with TiBu v.s. MyBackup Pro (or w/e it's called).
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You're right. I just read the first sentence. This question gets asked a lot and I just go into autopilot.
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I know how you feel
thank you all!
Basically I'm using ICS333 which is great and to do I was trying to make some changes to the stock contacts apps. Anyway, I did a nandroid backup via CWM 5.5 so that I can restore if anything went wrong and sure enough I flashed something meant for JB. I went to restore my backup and afterwards rebooted... except now it is stuck in a loop when it reaches the ICS loading screen.
The only way to make it boot in ICS now is to wipe all personal data... which makes the backup meaningless.
In all honesty, the only thing I really want to keep is my whatsapp and texts. I'm currently trying to restore individual bits of the backup to see what causes the problem but can I extract data from a Nandroid backup?
This day gets better, now my home button doesn't work!
Ultraman1966 said:
can I extract data from a Nandroid backup?
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yes, download a nandroid browser from play store, and try My Android solutions (link below) for a suitable remedy
For for the tips, I used Titanium backup to retrieve some of the info but didn't to junk the rest. Less crap on the phone means it runs like butter again!
I'm new to this whole thing, as anyone who saw my last thread I made a really dumb mistake and at that point I've decided to make sure I know 100% what I'm doing before I attempt anything else.
Anyways I have a rooted HTC One, still have custom recovery, I think what I had flashed was a stock ROM but I was looking into trying another ROM. The thing is I don't want to have to redownload and re-install all of my apps and whatnot again as that was a pain in the butt. I know there's backups and whatnot through TWRP and Titanium, but do they carry over from ROM to ROM or are they specific to a certain ROM?
Or am I completely off base with this whole assessment lol. I'm trying to learn all this stuff but it's definitely a lot of information to take in and I don't want another fiasco like last time
You can use titanium backup that way you can bring your data with you but restoring data can cause lag and other issues. That's why I just reinstall them all one by one I actually enjoy the process of setting up a new Rom. It is not Rom specific at all. Also check out SMS back up & restore. With that app you can even save your texts.
"You are and will become your most dominant thoughts" - Napoleon Hill
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You can use titanium backup that way you can bring your data with you but restoring data can cause lag and other issues. That's why I just reinstall them all one by one I actually enjoy the process of setting up a new Rom. It is not Rom specific at all. Also check out SMS back up & restore. With that app you can even save your texts.
"You are and will become your most dominant thoughts" - Napoleon Hill
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Good stuff thanks for the help man. I'll probably experiment with it a bit later but will probably just do a clean wipe to be safe
If you are flashing a rom with the same base that you already have (eg. both sense roms) you can try a dirty flash and you wont loose anything except your widgets on your home screens, I do it all the time bit it does not always work from one rom to another, ALWAYS make a nandroid backup before you flash anything!!! just in case.....