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[Q] Finallly rooted my N1 - so what is next for a new ROM?

Well after having my N1 for two years (I bought it on launch day) I finally got up the never to root it using this process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319653
Had a few heart stopping moments as the script hung until I realised that while I had download the SDK to get the USB driver I hadn't actually installed the driver for the phone.
Confirmed that it was rooted by downloading Titanium Backup and doing a backup.
For a new ROM (as yet undecided) is a Titanium Backup good enough or should I also do the cyanogenmod clockworkmod recovery?
Should I be able to restore my apps and settings after the new ROM using the Titanium Backup?

You wanna do a Nandroid or Full Image Backup with Clockwork. Titanium is just as you said apps and data. Although, I think CWM has a system bu option. Don't use CWM anymore use Amon_Ra. So not up on steps. The post 3.0 CW's have had issues and are documented.
You can restore apps and data at any time with Titanium, but I think to do system stuff you need to be restoring to same rom.
I highly recommend Nandroids and sdcard backups before doing any new flashing.
Start with CM7 roms the stable ones, then move on. Read OP pages fully and scan threads front to back for info/problems etc
Ken

Which recovery is user friendly for newbies like me.
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n1newbie said:
Which recovery is user friendly for newbies like me.
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Download rom manager from the market and install clockwork recovery.
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camalus said:
Download rom manager from the market and install clockwork recovery.
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Clockwork is probably the best and easiest to use.

scgolfer7 said:
Clockwork is probably the best and easiest to use.
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But i hv read many ppl complaining abt the problem with their sd card partition due to cwm? ??
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use the pre 3.0 versions

Let's try Amon_RA Recovery
Best recovery by far. Never any issues. Been using this version for months and months. Perfect with flashing, backing up, restoring, and partitioning.

are you experienced with fastboot commands adb etc

The downside with Amon_RA is it doesn't give you the option to wipe the /system partition. I have stuck with a pre-3.0 version of ClockworkMod for this reason. There is a new recovery out there called 4EXT that is based on ClockworkMod, but doesn't have the issue with corrupting partitions. He has also added a TON of new features. This does seem to be the best on out there now. He even just released a touch-based version. The thread is in the development section.

Nandroid backup to external sd?

I just bought my self a new 16gb sd card. I was wondering if there was a way to make cwm backup my nandroid to my external sd card as opposed to my internel one?
Thanks

thekalby said:
I just bought my self a new 16gb sd card. I was wondering if there was a way to make cwm backup my nandroid to my external sd card as opposed to my internel one?
Thanks
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if you are using the newest recovery by thecubed, then it already does...

Pirateghost said:
if you are using the newest recovery by thecubed, then it already does...
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Can I just install this over the current version of cwm Im using? Will it effect my current rom?

The new recovery from thecubed (5.5.0.4) let's you pick between internal and external(default). If you're using another recovery for some reason then just use a file explorer app to cut and paste from one location to the other.
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dusty2422 said:
The new recovery from thecubed (5.5.0.4) let's you pick between internal and external(default). If you're using another recovery for some reason then just use a file explorer app to cut and paste from one location to the other.
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I am using an older version of CWM. All I want to know is can I just install the new version over my old version without returning to stock or loosing current rom.

thekalby said:
I am using an older version of CWM. All I want to know is can I just install the new version over my old version without returning to stock or loosing current rom.
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have you read the recovery thread?
does it specifically say you have to return to stock?
recovery has nothing to do with the rom, so no, you wont lose it

Pirateghost said:
have you read the recovery thread?
does it specifically say you have to return to stock?
recovery has nothing to do with the rom, so no, you wont lose it
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I did read it...it didnt say I needed to but the instructions were talking about installing it right after you unlocked the boot loader, so I was making sure I didnt have to go back and start the whole process again.
Thanks for making it clear!

ROM Manager uninstall/install newer pro version

I have the free version of ROM Manager and tried installing pro version... it said I needed to first uninstall the existing version first. Are there any problems with uninstalling ROM Manager?
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CM7/Phiremod v7.2

When I try to uninstall ROM Manager, it won't do it. Thought I'd like pro, to download and install ROMs, but am satisfied with Recovery Boot
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do you need to be rooted to install ROM manager? i have it on my other devices but dont see it anywhere on my stock nook when searching the b&n store. and do i have to get it from the market? if so, i have to have the nook rooted to get that too right? really confused as my nook wont boot from microsd card to CWM.

KaliS-Pugilist said:
do you need to be rooted to install ROM manager? i have it on my other devices but dont see it anywhere on my stock nook when searching the b&n store. and do i have to get it from the market? if so, i have to have the nook rooted to get that too right? really confused as my nook wont boot from microsd card to CWM.
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Yes you do have to be rooted. You get it via the market or sideload it. You can do neither without being rooted.
Also look at my reply in the other thread.

[Q] HD+ gets stuck on Cyanoboot screen on CM10 SD Card

I installed CM10 on a 4GB PNY SD Card and when I rebooted after installation, my HD+ got stuck on the Cyanoboot screen. I rebooted a few times but it never gets past the Cyanoboot screen. Any ideas? Thanks.

YevOmega said:
I installed CM10 on a 4GB PNY SD Card and when I rebooted after installation, my HD+ got stuck on the Cyanoboot screen. I rebooted a few times but it never gets past the Cyanoboot screen. Any ideas? Thanks.
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The problem is that PNY card. It is terrible with ROMs on SD. You need a SanDisk class 4.
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leapinlar said:
The problem is that PNY card. It is terrible with ROMs on SD. You need a SanDisk class 4.
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Ok thanks. You mean Class 4 or higher, right?

YevOmega said:
Ok thanks. You mean Class 4 or higher, right?
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No. Class 4. They work best. Higher classes do worse.
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leapinlar said:
No. Class 4. They work best. Higher classes do worse.
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That's wack. But ok.

YevOmega said:
That's wack. But ok.
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If you want to know why, read this thread. It was written for the Nook Color, but applies to these devices too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12330898
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leapinlar said:
If you want to know why, read this thread. It was written for the Nook Color, but applies to these devices too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12330898
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I C. Thanks leapinlar. And oh the excitement over Eclair. Wow how far we have come. Remember when multitasking on Android was new (Recent Apps Window in ICS)? Even that feels like it was ages ago.

Sorry for bothering.
Tried with Samsung 32GB Class 10, no go. Was that one supposed to work? Considering it's a high-class, I assume not, but I'm not sure. Gonna buy a class 4 sandisk, I guess. The thing is that I'm not sure I'm doing the installation correctly because the first option is to adb but that doesn't work when the tablet is in recovery. It should be the same thing because the adb is just pushing to the root of the card. Sorry for bothering.

YevOmega said:
Tried with Samsung 32GB Class 10, no go. Was that one supposed to work? Considering it's a high-class, I assume not, but I'm not sure. Gonna buy a class 4 sandisk, I guess. The thing is that I'm not sure I'm doing the installation correctly because the first option is to adb but that doesn't work when the tablet is in recovery. It should be the same thing because the adb is just pushing to the root of the card. Sorry for bothering.
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ADB is not working with CWM because the driver address is different. Search some of the HD+ threads for instructions how to fix this. You can also use a Mac or Linux to copy the file.
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And it continues
Got a Sandisk class 4, 4GB. I still get stuck on Cyanoboot after installing CM10 zip from CWM.

YevOmega said:
Got a Sandisk class 4, 4GB. I still get stuck on Cyanoboot after installing CM10 zip from CWM.
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Describe a little more the symptoms. It just says cyanoboot forever? No eventual dimming of the logo?
The installation said completed successfully? And which version of CM10? Try going to CWM and wiping data/factory resetting.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM10.1 on Hybrid SD

leapinlar said:
Describe a little more the symptoms. It just says cyanoboot forever? No eventual dimming of the logo?
The installation said completed successfully? And which version of CM10? Try going to CWM and wiping data/factory resetting.
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The screen dims, the logo doesn't. It says cyanoboot for as long as I leave the tablet on. The installation was successful. I'm using the "cm-10-20130120-UNOFFICIAL-ovation" zip. I still don't have adb working in CWM so I made a "CM10SDCARD" folder and put the zip in there. Then I booted into CWM and flashed it. I also tried just keeping the zip in the root of the folder.

Btw, just wondering, are we ever gonna get a full CM10 installation, on internal memory?

YevOmega said:
The screen dims, the logo doesn't. It says cyanoboot for as long as I leave the tablet on. The installation was successful. I'm using the "cm-10-20130120-UNOFFICIAL-ovation" zip. I still don't have adb working in CWM so I made a "CM10SDCARD" folder and put the zip in there. Then I booted into CWM and flashed it. I also tried just keeping the zip in the root of the folder.
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You made a CM10sdcard folder where? On the boot partition? And you were able to find it with CWM to flash? I'm concerned that you did not really flash it. You did use verygreen's CWM, not mine, right?
Edit: Now that I think about it, I know that is what you did, you used my CWM. That explains everything, the symptoms. Otherwise you could not have found that zip on the boot partition with CWM. And my CWM does not partition the SD for putting a ROM on it. The installation zip would install the boot files to my CWM but since the rest of the SD is not partitioned, not the CM10 files. So when cyanoboot comes up, there is no CM10 to load. So start over burning his CWM.
And don't get in a hurry for CM10 on emmc. It won't happen soon, if ever. Remember emmc has a locked bootloader.
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leapinlar said:
You made a CM10sdcard folder where? On the boot partition? And you were able to find it with CWM to flash? I'm concerned that you did not really flash it. You did use verygreen's CWM, not mine, right?
Edit: Now that I think about it, I know that is what you did, you used my CWM. That explains everything, the symptoms. Otherwise you could not have found that zip on the boot partition with CWM. And my CWM does not partition the SD for putting a ROM on it. The installation zip would install the boot files to my CWM but since the rest of the SD is not partitioned, not the CM10 files. So when cyanoboot comes up, there is no CM10 to load. So start over burning his CWM.
And don't get in a hurry for CM10 on emmc. It won't happen soon, if ever. Remember emmc has a locked bootloader.
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Thanks leapinlar. I'll try today. Yeah, I know the bootloader is locked. I wish CM would pick up the HD+ and HD, but that's not gonna happen. Both are absolutely solid devices. WE NEED MORE DEVS! That's not to say that you're not awesome. Do you think a newer release of CM10 than the one I plan on flashing is satisfactorily stable?

YevOmega said:
Thanks leapinlar. I'll try today. Yeah, I know the bootloader is locked. I wish CM would pick up the HD+ and HD, but that's not gonna happen. Both are absolutely solid devices. WE NEED MORE DEVS! That's not to say that you're not awesome. Do you think a newer release of CM10 than the one I plan on flashing is satisfactorily stable?
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I use 01-08. It is very stable. I get an occasional reboot, but the newer builds reboot a lot for me.
And remember, if CM picks up the devices, they still need a local dev to maintain the device specific needs. So you are no better off than you are now. The only difference is automatic nightlies, which are now weeklies now for CM10.
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leapinlar said:
I use 01-08. It is very stable. I get an occasional reboot, but the newer builds reboot a lot for me.
And remember, if CM picks up the devices, they still need a local dev to maintain the device specific needs. So you are no better off than you are now. The only difference is automatic nightlies, which are now weeklies now for CM10.
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I would be better off because there would be relatively stable code. Btw, I tried using verygreen's CWM. I inserted my SD Card into my HD+ and then put it back in my computer. CWM booted, but I can't put CM10 on the card because there are only 109 MB free. It partitioned that way. HELP!

YevOmega said:
I would be better off because there would be relatively stable code. Btw, I tried using verygreen's CWM. I inserted my SD Card into my HD+ and then put it back in my computer. CWM booted, but I can't put CM10 on the card because there are only 109 MB free. It partitioned that way. HELP!
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That is what I meant when I said earlier that you could not have been putting that CM rom on the boot partition. That is why you need ADB. Either that or Linux. They are both hard to do. Look in verygreen's thread over the last few weeks. There are instruction there by users. His instructions are not very good.
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leapinlar said:
That is what I meant when I said earlier that you could not have been putting that CM rom on the boot partition. That is why you need ADB. Either that or Linux. They are both hard to do. Look in verygreen's thread over the last few weeks. There are instruction there by users. His instructions are not very good.
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Can't find how to set up ADB to work with CWM. I looked everywhere.

YevOmega said:
Can't find how to set up ADB to work with CWM. I looked everywhere.
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This too hard to explain to you. I hate explaining to people how to make it work. I spent weeks explaining and re-explaining how to do ADB. Everyone's system requires different steps. I recommend you look on the web on how to make an Ubuntu live CD. You just make that CD and put it in the CD drive and it boots to Ubuntu. Put your card in the card reader and it sees the partition it needs to be copied too.
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If I want 4.4 on HD+ which way should I go?

I'm wanting to put 4.4 or what ever is latest stable on my HD+. I have a Mac so the win disk image tool won't do me any good.
Which thread should I look at? There are so many release and threads. I want to use the SD card for the new OS. Not to blow away my current Nook OS.
Thanks,
Steve

piperman7 said:
I'm wanting to put 4.4 or what ever is latest stable on my HD+. I have a Mac so the win disk image tool won't do me any good.
Which thread should I look at? There are so many release and threads. I want to use the SD card for the new OS. Not to blow away my current Nook OS.
Thanks,
Steve
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I'm not sure there is a version of CM11 that can run on SD, but there are many CM10 -CM10.2 threads that give files and instructions.
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leapinlar said:
I'm not sure there is a version of CM11 that can run on SD, but there are many CM10 -CM10.2 threads that give files and instructions.
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With the CM11 install that I have seen on here, does it boot straight into 4.4 no Nook at all? If so what happens to my current data?
I don't mind if it runs 4.4 or was even looking at the CM12.1. I have an iPad Air that I mostly use, but love this Nook and have had it for a while, I figured that I would make use of it.

piperman7 said:
With the CM11 install that I have seen on here, does it boot straight into 4.4 no Nook at all? If so what happens to my current data?
I don't mind if it runs 4.4 or was even looking at the CM12.1. I have an iPad Air that I mostly use, but love this Nook and have had it for a while, I figured that I would make use of it.
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If you run CM11 or CM12 it directly replaces the ROM and data already there. No stock is left. All data is wiped.
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leapinlar said:
I'm not sure there is a version of CM11 that can run on SD, but there are many CM10 -CM10.2 threads that give files and instructions.
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Actually either verygreen and bokbokan released sdcard builds of cm11 for ovation, but they were updated last november.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600572
There are no instructions for SD card install in verygreenś thread, but I think you can follow the same procedure detailed in cm10.x sdcard instrucutions.

I did a CM11 install that is in leapinliar's post, was pretty easy to do.
If I wanted to update to CM12.1 or put twrp on what would I need to do?

piperman7 said:
I did a CM11 install that is in leapinliar's post, was pretty easy to do.
If I wanted to update to CM12.1 or put twrp on what would I need to do?
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I think leapilar listed almost everything useful to nook hd(+) in his signature.
IIRC, I took these steps to have both recovery and rom in my ovation emmc:
1) create a micro SD card with a recovery (you probably did it already when flashed cm11)
2) Download a newer (cm12 compatible) recovery and copy to sdcard (I'm using emmc twrp 2.8.6.0 built by amaces but there are older builds compatible, including cwm)
3) flash recovery (it'll replace nook stock recovery with the one you're flashing. People says it may be more difficult to fix your nook in case you experience emmc issues. I've never had any issues so I can't tell)
4) reboot to newer recovery, wipe /data, /cache, /dalvik-cache and /system, then flash cm12.1 rom with cm12.1 gapps (cm12 gapps won't work in cm12.1 and vice versa)
PS: I'm afraid .img files aren't flashable via recovery. To flash 2.8.6.0 I used Flashify. You can get it in play store and use it if you are rooted. This will make the process a lot easier since you won't need to prepare an sdcard.