I have T-Mobile and am in US.... I really am interested in the Galaxy note and am wondering if it is compatible with T-Mobile's 3G/"4G"/HSPA+ network? I don't know what these frequency bands mean for compatibility ...
It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.
cadavar said:
It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.
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That is exactly the response I was looking for in terms of technicality goes.
Thank you very much!
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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Hello all,
This is interesting. Is there anyways to confirm that Indian version will have "Penta" band?
I read that Note will launch in India on 3nd November. May be will have to wait to find out.
crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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i can't find anything to suggest any carrier in India uses the 1700/2100 bands needed for T-Mo (US) 3G to work anyway. so it must be about something else.
crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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There are many bands for UTMS, and t-mobile USA is the only one that uses 1700.
Odds are, even if it is pentaband, it still won't support 1700. It might, but it's unlikely.
- Frank
Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone
I've been researching a bit and it seems that the files are about the same on these phones, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. That being said, I am in no way an expert, but I hope someone with more knowledge will chime in on this and give us a concrete answer.
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what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone
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phone frequency band is hardware specific. if the crystal is not tuned for the frequency, theres nothing you can do to make the phone to accept it
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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I think that for now is the best idea
I still want this and thinking hard about pulling the trigger and just buying. Has anybody bought this on tmobiles network yet.
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You will only get Edge speeds.
There is no need to confirm anything.
Hardware IS HARDWARE.
I would not consider getting T-Mobile's version of this for the sole fact that they'll mess it up by putting a pair of 1.8 ghz Qualcomm chip in there to support their 42mbps network.
It will be garbage once that happens.
At this point, you either accept it as being Edge only on T-Mobile's network, or you don't get it altogether.
Yeah I know it only works on edge but if a million iphone users are using it then it might be usable but I kinda want a real world test of the Internet and not just specs since that's the only thing that's holding me back
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I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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You could ditch T-Mob, or not worth it? I would leave my carrier for the Note.
I made an inquiry about the Note coming to T mobile directly to someone I know at Samsung. He did get back to me and said they have figured a way around the present problem with the present chip configuration and will come out with a version that will be 1700/2100 compatible. BUT, not soon (2012) and probably will be the next version of this type of 5" + smart phone ....... So it is edge only on TMO for now..............
By the time they actually get to bring something like that out the quad core chips will be out and other makers might bring out something similar hopefully.
Howdy all?
Currently I am using Dell Streak which actually was launched for AT&T. So I was only getting TMo's EDGE speed on my Streak. Which for me was not a big deal because I would only have to deal with slow speed while I am either away from home or work.
Some might find it silly, but what I did was, removed my data portion which was with the phone and actually got TMo's 4g hotspot. And I carried both, my Streak and hotspot always with me. Which for me works out alright.
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Hello Everyone
A man have google nexus one used it only one week
and he is selling it for 400$
like new and with every thing
is it a good deal or no ?
and do you advice me to buy nexus one or see anther mobile ?
is nexus one good for heavy games ? and apps ?
do i have any problems ?
and what are the things i have to check them before buying it ?
and thank you
My only advice...slow down with the formatting
Do it. Best phone i've ever used, and it'll stay supported (Dev!)
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Hello Everyone
A man have google nexus one used it only one week
and he is selling it for 400$
like new and with every thing
is it a good deal or no ?
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Give me his number and I'll tell you how good of a deal it is..
JK
I say take it... it is by far one of the best devices I've ever had. It's no longer on the top of my list but I still own one and can't seem to shake off the love for this phone.
Get him to turn it on and make sure it boots up. Thats all you need to do really. If he has only had it for a week it may be an SLCD device and there is only one kernel supporting that at the moment.
I'd do it if it was me.
OMG, with the formatting.
PASS on the N1 at $400+. I'd pay $350 for it though.
For heavy games GPU wise, i'd say nexus one isnt the way to go, well for the time being that is. But thats my opinion.
i've opened a thread for porting / improving GPU drivers for our devices and who knows what gingerbread will provide for our devices
We have no clue how well our devices can perform but its always getting better.
I'd say Galaxy S should be more appropriate as it has a great GPU and massive internal storage.
I've started seeing plenty of Nexus Ones for $350 now, so $400 seems much, but this is only used for 1 week so you decide for yourself.
As for what to know, make sure you get the version you need for 3G-support. Doesn't sound like you're in the U.S. though.
yes i am not in USA
but the n1 have dual-band 3G support
right ?
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yes i am not in USA
but the n1 have dual-band 3G support
right ?
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No. Dual-band GSM support, not 3G. It works with both AT&T and T-Mobile's network on Edge, but for 3G, it depends on which model you get.
see the Key features here
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_one-review-457.php
•Quad-band GSM and dual-band 3G support
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see the Key features here
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_one-review-457.php
•Quad-band GSM and dual-band 3G support
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The POINT is, there are TWO versions of Nexus One in the U.S., one for AT&T 3G, and one for T-Mobile 3G. I don't know where are you from and how the network there works, but that's how it is in the U.S. You mentioned the price in U.S. dollars, so you might be buying one of the two. You need to know not all U.S. Nexus Ones are the same.
he said that it is unlocked
Unlocked doesn't have to do with what the hardware supports. Ask him if it's the AT&T or T-Mobile version. Then look at those frequencies and figure out if they work in your area, on your carrier.
Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_One
"France
On May 18, 2010 the Nexus One was made available for purchase through the SFR web portal."
"The original Nexus One also came along with UMTS frequency bands 1 (2100 MHz), 4 (1700 MHz), and 8 (900 MHz).[56], allowing it to access 3G throughout Europe, as well as on T-Mobile USA and WIND Mobile in Canada. The second version of the Nexus One supports UMTS frequency bands 1 (2100 MHz), 2 (1900 MHz), and 5 (850 MHz), allowing it to access 3G in most of Europe, as well as on AT&T Mobility in the USA and Rogers Wireless, Fido Solutions, Bell Mobility, and Telus Mobility in Canada. The second version of the Nexus One also works on Telecom New Zealand's XT Mobile Network and Telcel's 3G Network."
Keep this thread clean please chaps and cut out the personal insults.
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Hi everybody,
I was wondering if someone can tell me if unlocked unbranded Note gets 3G/ "4G" coverage on AT&T? I've read on amazon that its only EDGE on T-mo
Due to carrier IQ, I don't wanna get a branded Note...
Thanks,
EDGE only on tmo, ATT "4g" (hsdpa+) no LTE
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EDGE only on tmo, ATT "4g" (hsdpa+) no LTE
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Thanks!!!!!1
I will switch to AT&T~
Samsung has just given another Note to the FCC, this time it has the ability to use LTE, what I don't know is if they will be selling this version unlocked.
^ this is correct. Its worth mentioning that the US note will have 4 soft touch buttons across the bottom and no solid "clicky" home button. On the not, its VERY nice to be able to turn on via the middle home button vs reach for the side.
Can someone with this phone on t-mobile try a speedtest anyway and tell me whats your speed with the EDGE?
180 kb (23Kb) down 130 (16.3 Kb) up. That's about as good as it gets for edge.
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Very happy with at&t on the note! Very good modem on this thing. Battery lasts all day. Very fast with hspa+
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Samsung has just given another Note to the FCC, this time it has the ability to use LTE, what I don't know is if they will be selling this version unlocked.
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Keep in mind the AT&T branded one may easily have a different CPU/GPU.
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Keep in mind the AT&T branded one may easily have a different CPU/GPU.
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I know, and this is what's causing my dillemma.
It definitely will have a different chip as the 1.4Ghz Exynos doesn't do 4G/LTE and you know AT&T will insist on it having that ability.
Question is, will it be a slower Qualcomm or will it be the 1.5Ghz Exynos which I doubt as I don't think it's ready but man would that be sweet. This is all I'm waiting on before I hit the submit button.
If AT&T (or whoever gets it first in the US) announce a release and I see it has the Qualcomm chip, I'll be running to the nearest lowest priced online vendor and snapping up one with a 1.4Ghz Exynos cause I don't care about 4G/LTE right now.
IOW I'd prefer the device with the fastest chip possible as opposed to having 4G/LTE ability, it's not even available in my area (Central Florida, east coast) and for the most part I'm in a Wifi environment.
I saw a deal for an unlocked "world" version of the note and I am on TmoUS. So if I buy the note, will I be able to use my unlimited data plan with 3g or H? I am confused reading the forums on the att side and this one...they're saying I can only get edge? Because that would really suck.
I'm on tapatalk and can't do a decent search on xda via app so if this had been asked already, just point me to that thread and I will gladly have this one deleted. Also, the desire to get the unlocked note is a spur of the moment kinda thing since the deal is only available for one day. Btw, unlocked note is selling for 585 with shipping from 1saleaday.
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what they said is right you will only get edge speeds on tmobile with the inter.. Note...If you use AT&T then its no big deal.
I am also on tmo. I found an article that says you can run tmo hspa+ on att note so I'm going to try and trade line on Craigslist. Edge is killing me man.
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
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Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
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that depends on the frequency of the 3g network in your area.
however, this is the first I've seen it mentioned that American t mobile has any other 3g bands than 700mhz.
So I'd say no, you most likely will not get 3g speeds.
The N7000 will only run on T-Mobile edge. If you want 4g you have to AT&T or Straight Talk.
This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
Well, EDGE is downright terrible...no one can argue that. If you want to use T-Mobile, you're better off getting the AT-T note, unlocking it, then installing the right modem files to use it on 3g/4g. I use T-Mobile myself, and decided to keep the Int. version...I think it's better, and the development community is WAY better, mainly because the device has been out longer. It's up to you really. Don't hope T-Mobile will be updating it's 1900mhz spectrum in your area anytime soon...it's a process I'm sure will take many years.
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This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
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I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
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Yes they do number porting as long as it is not a at&t number because straight talk uses at&t network.
It sucks that it is more difficult to get the inter version to work on 3g or h on tmo. I did read that the inter version is better than att version and I do believe that development will be better with the inter version as it obviously covers more countries and it has been out longer. I really want this note but I'm just gonna wait a bit. I have a feeling those guys working on getting tmo to work on inter version will be able to do it. Wishful thinking probably but it is possible with all the talented devs out there. I guess I'm going to be on sensation for a while until tmo comes up with a phone as awesome as the note. Thanks for all the responses!!
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Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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Noob question...how can I check? Are you getting 3g with tmo now?
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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FYI and I have heard of this issue before, Straight Talk gets varied reception in Metropolitian areas. Let me explain.
I have had ST for a few months now, on the NT7000. I have had zero issues.
A couple of caveats
DO NOT use more than 100mb/day or 2gb/month, whichever comes first. People have had their contracts terminated by ST for doing this. So not truly unlimited (but still more than decent deal). This is not a *hard* limit- I have done more without any issues by accident.
I get decent service in the suburb of NYC where I live (few tall buildings), actually much better service than Tmobile had.
However, in NYC itself, the service can be absolutely horrible depending on area. My guess for this phenomenon is that while you are on an ATT MVNO, this doesn't necessarily mean that you have the same roaming rights as regular ATT customers. In a metro area, roaming might be necessary to get signal in certain places.
My download speeds at 2gb down 1 up.
I would just buy a months' worth at first and try it out as prepaid, then port your number in.
From what I understand, you don't even need to buy the e71 like I did anymore
skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Which areas in Philly? I live in Philly but only manage to ever get Edge speeds on mine.
I use RedPocket. It's a MVNO of AT&T ....
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
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so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
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I do. I got it with the SGS II and ow with the Note. up to 3mbs download. Good enough. MediaNet is $10 a month unlimited, I don't use nearly 2GB maybe less than 1 as I am in WiFi most of the time. I am using a Cingular.wap setting. Its different than the "smartphone" APN but the speeds are the same (until LTE is available) I don't need LTE speeds on a phone. I don't even get those speeds at home on cable. maybe 7Mbs DL.
Hello all,
I have been in the market for a Samsung galaxy note for a while now. I wanted to get the unlocked version of the phone since I am with T-Mobile. Now as I researched a little more about the phone I came to know there are two different versions which are N-7000 and i-717. Also as i came to find out the N-7000 version does not support T-mobile 4g. Most of my other research also came up with a result that everyone recommend N-7000 version over i-717 because of the processor. I personally like the N-7000 because of the center home button.
I came up with this thread where it flash's the radio of the note and I was being told by one of my friend that this will allow you to be able to use it with t-mobile 4g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962
As it says its only for att galaxy note so I am assuming this will not work with the international version of the note or the N-7000 version.
My job requires me to stay on the road most of the time and its really important I have high speed internet on the phone. I am from fort lauderdale, florida.
So my question is-
1. Which version of the phone should I buy?
2. The link posted above will this work with N-7000?
3. Is there any way to work the N-7000 with T-mobile 4g by flashing the radio or anything else?
4. If yes, can any of you please post a step by step instruction on how to make it work. If possible please be elaborate with your steps as I am super dumb when it comes to do hacking and all that.
5. Will the new N-7000 comes with ICS? Does that require any special thing to be done with the phone in order to work with the T-mobile 4g?
I really appreciate all your help in advance. I would be really honored if you guys can respond back as soon as possible.
Thanks
TASVIR
if your job requires fast internet, you should conclude your research and get the i717. The international note won't fit your life style. At this time, it will NOT support tmobile 4g.
Thanks.
But the i717 requires the flashing of the radio and unlocking as well to work with t-mobile 4g? Just like my link on the post mentioned?
you can unlock i717 by buying code online for $25 and about 10mins of time researching and flashing it. It's really easy. I've had i717 for tmobile myself and found out that i dont' need all the time internet. sold it...and got the n7000
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Thanks.
But the i717 requires the flashing of the radio and unlocking as well to work with t-mobile 4g? Just like my link on the post mentioned?
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So you had i-717 and then you sold it and got the n7000. If you dont mind me asking what made you switch? Is the phone is not worth all this? I am assuming now you are using the n7000 for tmobile's 3g? Hows the speed on that? if the speed is okay would you recommend n7000 over i717 based on the processors of the phones? does your n7000 required any rooting work with tmobile and its internet?
Have you looked around to see if T-Mobile is or will be offering 1900MHz HSDPA+ in your area? The N7000 supports 1900MHz on it's '3G' radio.
I just checked yes they do have 1900MHz in flortlauderdale. FL
Does this means the galaxy note N-7000 will work with t-mobile 3g as soon as I put the sim in the phone?
also
samsung-sgh-i717r-galaxy-note-lte-rogers-wireless from canada and at expansys they are selling it unlocked for 489$
Is this the same as the att galaxy note? with the root will it work with t mobile and its 4g network? I only ask cause this is cheaper than the att version of the note and it is Gnote SGH-i717R instead of Gnote SFH-i717.
This phone is driving me crazier than my ex-girlfriend.
I sold my i717 because I travel a lot oversea and I don't need the LTE feature. I sacrificed that for the better processor and smoothness. Also, I am around wifi most of the time...and I don't use much of internet when I am on the road. Speed wise, it's decent for my use....regular internet, email...and so forth. Not fast...but doable. It fits my life style better. Like I said, you've mentioned that you're on the road a lot that require fast internet access, so I suggested i717. As far as the 1900mhz in your area, don't count on it......you will need to experience it. Call tmobile and find out, or get 1900mhz phone and test it. heck you can even buy the n7000 and try....and if it doesn't work out, sell it and buy the at&t.
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So you had i-717 and then you sold it and got the n7000. If you dont mind me asking what made you switch? Is the phone is not worth all this? I am assuming now you are using the n7000 for tmobile's 3g? Hows the speed on that? if the speed is okay would you recommend n7000 over i717 based on the processors of the phones? does your n7000 required any rooting work with tmobile and its internet?
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yellowpad said:
I sold my i717 because I travel a lot oversea and I don't need the LTE feature. I sacrificed that for the better processor and smoothness. Also, I am around wifi most of the time...and I don't use much of internet when I am on the road. Speed wise, it's decent for my use....regular internet, email...and so forth. Not fast...but doable. It fits my life style better. Like I said, you've mentioned that you're on the road a lot that require fast internet access, so I suggested i717. As far as the 1900mhz in your area, don't count on it......you will need to experience it. Call tmobile and find out, or get 1900mhz phone and test it. heck you can even buy the n7000 and try....and if it doesn't work out, sell it and buy the at&t.
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Thanks yellowpad. I saw a video on the snapdragon and exynos processor. Bit scary. If with high internet speed does not work because of the processor that would such a shame. I will get the N-7000 and try. I called t-mobile and found out they support 1900 in my area. Its a hit or miss situation. Would you reccomend any site to buy it from? I tried calling expansys for million times as they dont pick up the phone and they say they are #1 in customer satisfaction. LOL
I would just wait a month for the Tmobile version, I believe its coming out the first week of july. unless you dont care about data speeds, then get whatever, but I'd rather wait a few more days and have a fully compatible device in my hands, just my humble input!
As far as i know they have different CPUs and N7000 is supposed to handle hd videos and 3d graphics better. Also, N7000 seems to have better support over here simply because it's more popular.
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I would just wait a month for the Tmobile version, I believe its coming out the first week of july. unless you dont care about data speeds, then get whatever, but I'd rather wait a few more days and have a fully compatible device in my hands, just my humble input!
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Thanks for your input. You know I have been researching on that as well from last night. They are saying its coming out on the 11th of July. May be before that or after. Fully compatible with T-mobile network. I would wait for that before I get mine. Only thing that scares me is if it comes with the snapdragon processor. Which is a joke over exynos processor. You can go to youtube and check some of the video's of the differences.
Samsung also said to expect snapdragon processor on all the US bound phones. So at this point i guess we only have to keep our fingers crossed and wait for the best.
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As far as i know they have different CPUs and N7000 is supposed to handle hd videos and 3d graphics better. Also, N7000 seems to have better support over here simply because it's more popular.
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Yah the N-7000 comes with exynos processor and i-717 (ATT Version) comes with snapdragon. N-7000 has better processor but low speed data and ATT is high speed data but a very slow and unsophisticated processor (if you compare with the N-7000)... its just up to the customer if they would sacrifices data over processor?? In my case I WANT BOTH...
amazon @$539....white rules! lolz
white n7000
tasvir said:
Thanks yellowpad. I saw a video on the snapdragon and exynos processor. Bit scary. If with high internet speed does not work because of the processor that would such a shame. I will get the N-7000 and try. I called t-mobile and found out they support 1900 in my area. Its a hit or miss situation. Would you reccomend any site to buy it from? I tried calling expansys for million times as they dont pick up the phone and they say they are #1 in customer satisfaction. LOL
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amazon @$539....white rules! lolz
white n7000
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Thanks...lol
Does Samsung GT-N7000 (International) work with Tmobile USA 4G?
Hi guys,
So far I have a been reading around and not really find an exact answer.
Let me ask some questions one more time.
1. Can Samsung GT-N7000 (International Version) be flash with Tmobile radio 4G to make it work with Tmobile USA 4G?
2. Anyone using a Working Samsung N7000 flashed Tmobile Radio 4G? If so, which area of USA?
Someone please be kind and advice.
Thanks in advance
Hi all!
I recently purchased an HTC First in hopes of running it on T-Mobile's $30/unlimited plan. Rather than doing my due diligence in researching radio bands, I bought the First and ended up stuck on T-Mobile Edge (2g) network.
This is because T-Mobile 3g/~4g uses the 1700MHz+2100MHz spectrum, while the First is set for AT&T 3g: 1900MHz+2100MHz.
Through more research I found that the Samsung Note II had the same problem, but by modifying the radio they could get it to use the 1700MHz spectrum as it is only disabled.
I hope to keep researching if this is possible, but does anyone have any information to help/completely demolish any hopes for this?
Thanks!
whiten0va said:
Hi all!
I recently purchased an HTC First in hopes of running it on T-Mobile's $30/unlimited plan. Rather than doing my due diligence in researching radio bands, I bought the First and ended up stuck on T-Mobile Edge (2g) network.
This is because T-Mobile 3g/~4g uses the 1700MHz+2100MHz spectrum, while the First is set for AT&T 3g: 1900MHz+2100MHz.
Through more research I found that the Samsung Note II had the same problem, but by modifying the radio they could get it to use the 1700MHz spectrum as it is only disabled.
I hope to keep researching if this is possible, but does anyone have any information to help/completely demolish any hopes for this?
Thanks!
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T-Mobile AWS (1700 3g) *might* be there. *IF* it's there, you might be able to flash the baseband of the HTC One Mini when it comes out (and *IF* it has AWS). Haha, yeah, a lot of ifs and mights. As far as I know, I don't know of any other HTC first variants (even though the HTC website lists others for other regions)
However, I wouldn't worry too much. The AT&T version will work on T-Mobile's refarmed 1900 MHz 3G and T-Mobile's LTE.
totalundone said:
T-Mobile AWS (1700 3g) *might* be there. *IF* it's there, you might be able to flash the baseband of the HTC One Mini when it comes out (and *IF* it has AWS). Haha, yeah, a lot of ifs and mights. As far as I know, I don't know of any other HTC first variants (even though the HTC website lists others for other regions)
However, I wouldn't worry too much. The AT&T version will work on T-Mobile's refarmed 1900 MHz 3G and T-Mobile's LTE.
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Haha yikes. Thanks for the informative reply!
I ended up selling my First to a friend on AT&T who wanted to get away from iOS, and bought a used HTC Incredible 4G which I'll continue to use on my unlimited Verizon plan. Going to give the T-Mobile sim to my girlfriend who has a Nexus 4 and wants to leave AT&T. I've switched phones 3 times in the past week but finally ended on something to temporarily replace my aging Galaxy Nexus. I'll reevaluate after the X phone comes out this fall!
Haha, yeah, I've been looking for phones since my Sensation died and want to move on from the Fusion 2 I've been using on T-Mobile.
It looks like the X phone, HTC One Mini, and the Xperia SP are all very similar with only camera and battery differences. I'm stuck trying to justify spending more than double with any of those over the HTC first for a better camera, gpu, and/or battery.
whiten0va said:
Hi all!
I recently purchased an HTC First in hopes of running it on T-Mobile's $30/unlimited plan. Rather than doing my due diligence in researching radio bands, I bought the First and ended up stuck on T-Mobile Edge (2g) network.
This is because T-Mobile 3g/~4g uses the 1700MHz+2100MHz spectrum, while the First is set for AT&T 3g: 1900MHz+2100MHz.
Through more research I found that the Samsung Note II had the same problem, but by modifying the radio they could get it to use the 1700MHz spectrum as it is only disabled.
I hope to keep researching if this is possible, but does anyone have any information to help/completely demolish any hopes for this?
Thanks!
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So does anyone know if this phone can be hacked to run on T-Mobile's 3G network via enabling the 1700 & 2100MHz?
quailallstar said:
So does anyone know if this phone can be hacked to run on T-Mobile's 3G network via enabling the 1700 & 2100MHz?
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Not sure. But by me the switch from 1700 - 1900 has started. I get "4g" in a bunch of places. The rest is edge though. But it improved in just a week.
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NaterTots said:
Not sure. But by me the switch from 1700 - 1900 has started. I get "4g" in a bunch of places. The rest is edge though. But it improved in just a week.
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Thanks for chiming in on that. So its 4G and not their "LTE?"
I'm really leaning on picking up a new/leftover HTC First on ebay or something to fiddle with. I've heard its a pretty solid device with great build quality; only downfall is no expandable memory.
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Thanks for chiming in on that. So its 4G and not their "LTE?"
I'm really leaning on picking up a new/leftover HTC First on ebay or something to fiddle with. I've heard its a pretty solid device with great build quality; only downfall is no expandable memory.
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Yeah I haven't found lte yet but it is supposed to be near me. The 4g or HSDPA+is fast though. I get 4-9 Mb/s down on it. I may drive through a lte area tomorrow. Currently I'm only using a $30 pre paid to try out t mobile in the areas I generally go.
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Yeah I haven't found lte yet but it is supposed to be near me. The 4g or HSDPA+is fast though. I get 4-9 Mb/s down on it. I may drive through a lte area tomorrow. Currently I'm only using a $30 pre paid to try out t mobile in the areas I generally go.
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I can live with HSDPA+ as that is what I have now and the fastest I've ever had.
whiten0va said:
Hi all!
I recently purchased an HTC First in hopes of running it on T-Mobile's $30/unlimited plan. Rather than doing my due diligence in researching radio bands, I bought the First and ended up stuck on T-Mobile Edge (2g) network.
This is because T-Mobile 3g/~4g uses the 1700MHz+2100MHz spectrum, while the First is set for AT&T 3g: 1900MHz+2100MHz.
Through more research I found that the Samsung Note II had the same problem, but by modifying the radio they could get it to use the 1700MHz spectrum as it is only disabled.
I hope to keep researching if this is possible, but does anyone have any information to help/completely demolish any hopes for this?
Thanks!
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so this phone runs on diff bands then the typical att phone? normally i can pick up lte on most att phones using tmobile but only getting 4g with the first..