When I flash a ROM is there anyway to make sure my telephone stays working. And most of my basic stuff keeps running? I have done 2 separate nandroid backups is that all I'll need to have? Any and all suggestions, advice, help, or just plain instructs are greatly appreciated!
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For "major" ROM upgrades, like changing ROM from one to another version (stock to custom..), or CM7.0 to 7.1, etc. it is recommended to do a phone wipe. This means all your contacts, apps etc. will be gone. The sdcard will not be wiped.
What you can do about this:
- Enable sync for your contacts and calendars. This will most likely happen automatically when setting up your Google account on the phone.
- Install a backup program like Titanium Backup. This can backup stuff like apps, app settings, wifi passwords, contacts, etc. Then after you installed the new ROM you can easily restore your apps+settings, etc.
- As I understand, nandroid backups will backup your whole phone. So in case you have a 'bad flash', you can restore the whole old ROM and data. But I think you want to transfer your data to a newer ROM version, so this is not what you want to keep data.
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Hi,
i'm slightly confused about the different backup applications available and i hope you guys could aid me =)
1. ClockworkMod Recovery: if we follow the steps in the ClockworkMod Recovery for Galaxy S i9000 post, will it back up the entire FW along with its custom roms, apps, contacts, sms etc?
so would that mean that i could reflash this backed up copy if the newer FW is not to my liking? alternatively is the apps and settings within transferable to new firmware?
2. Are there any apps that solely backups the sms, contacts, apps etc so that we can apply to the newly flashed FW? (so that we wont need to reinstall the entire applications etc, and also lose all the sms and settings). Eg titanium, or backup pro?
3. Lastly, alternatively is there anyway i could transfer these settings out from the phone prior to flashing? and subsequently reintroduce them back once flashing is complete.
Thanks for helping!
I would also like to know answers to these questions because I want to backup my ENTIRE phone (firmware+apps+sms+contacts+settings+...) if my phone ever gets broken so I could collect my warranty.
And if I flash to newest firmware I will not lose all my apps+sms+contacts+settings+... cause it would be a pain to reinstall all the apps and update all my contacts & settings.
currently i use mybackup pro
it backup my apps, contacts and SMS
but it doesn't restore my settings
i search a tool to restore the phone (without the firmware itself)
so when i flash a new firmware i only need to install that tool or run that tool (if it is a script for example) and it will restore all apps/settings/contacts/sms/images....
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same.. just like u guys... i was also looking for answers and help when i created this post.. hoping that someone could point us in the right direction =)
there are programs that can backup solely the SMS or call log, just search SMS backup or Call log backup and you will find it
for contacts, i use Kies; for app, i use Astro.... that's the programs i used when i flash my SGS from the original one to JP3
if you want full restore, go for Titanium, but hat requires root
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CWM restores back your backup to its original settings, because it takes an image of your phone os. It is just like your disk image backup of your pc or notebook. Hence, this is useful when you don't like the custom roms you have just flashed.
Titanium Backup backups all your apps and settings, but the shortcoming of it is you will have to spend a little more time to relayout your homescreen and also tweak a little of your settings. For example, I used the Missed Call 0.9.2 and I did the backup cum settings. But I still need to tweak back the actual ringtones for those settings manually.
Most will say that CWM is better, but that is not necessary. Titanium Backup will be most useful when you have flashed a rom and found that you want to keep the new rom. Now, having TB to do your backup will be very much easier in this case.
The others like Mybackup Pro, backup sms, mms, those are found in the market. Kies is good if you want to keep your contacts in the phone (not SIM or Google)
Hope this explanation helps you guys.
Since the topics exist for other phones and are a bit dated - I figured I'd ask you guys - what's the best/easiest way to backup user data before wiping and flashing a new kernel-base ROM? For example, not only would I like my game progress saved/moved, but my SMS, Call log, contacts (including the 'merged' data if possible), homescreen widgets, preferences?
I have TWRP, root, and Titanium Backup Pro - but I always seem to forget something and end up either starting over, losing the data, or trying to pull it out of a backup file.
exavion said:
Since the topics exist for other phones and are a bit dated - I figured I'd ask you guys - what's the best/easiest way to backup user data before wiping and flashing a new kernel-base ROM? For example, not only would I like my game progress saved/moved, but my SMS, Call log, contacts (including the 'merged' data if possible), homescreen widgets, preferences?
I have TWRP, root, and Titanium Backup Pro - but I always seem to forget something and end up either starting over, losing the data, or trying to pull it out of a backup file.
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I use to use Mybackup Pro from play store. It is a paid app but it does a good job. I can't use its full capabilities at the moment because it requires root access.
exavion said:
Since the topics exist for other phones and are a bit dated - I figured I'd ask you guys - what's the best/easiest way to backup user data before wiping and flashing a new kernel-base ROM? For example, not only would I like my game progress saved/moved, but my SMS, Call log, contacts (including the 'merged' data if possible), homescreen widgets, preferences?
I have TWRP, root, and Titanium Backup Pro - but I always seem to forget something and end up either starting over, losing the data, or trying to pull it out of a backup file.
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For homescreen widgets, preferences etc, you need make a nandroid backup and do a restore DATA after the flash of rom, but you can have issue
For sms i use the backup of sms app and the same for the contacs or google
so something that has been unclear to me still is how to reinstate all your apps, settings etc from a clean wipe.
for example, a new update for a custom ROM comes out that highly recommends a clean wipe. how do you back up and reinstall your apps after the wipe? what's your process?
Titanium Backup will back up all of your apps and you can optionally restore all data for those apps. It'll be as if you never wiped your phone lol.
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Titanium Backup can also make a zip backup of all apps/data that installable from TWRP. The backup takes a little longer but the install is very fast.
I also like ease backup from the play store. Does the job like tibu, but much cleaner and simpler ui.
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Yeah, I generally use a combination of logging in to my Google Account at the first run of a new rom (which starts the account backup process from Google), then finish off with Titanium. My process starts with just restoring the missing apps, then I do all the data. I look at it like a new OS install on a computer - for me, it takes a few passes and a couple of restarts, but in the end it's shorter than starting from scratch with layouts, settings, logins etc.
Since most ROM updates require fully wiping memory, restoring data is an essential step. Simply restoring the SD-Card, photos, music, etc, is not sufficient. There are many other types of data, such as call history, SMS/MMS messages, Wi-Fi networks and passwords, bluetooth pairings, etc. that need to be restored also to return the phone to its working state again.
Several ROM developers have cautioned to not use Titanium Backup to restore system data with their ROM. As alternates, I have seen suggestions to use MyBackupPro, Samsung account, or others.
Could someone explain (or reference a thread that explains) the differences between these types of backup/restore? What are the underlying issues that have to be kept in mind? How do these different backup programs save and restore the data? Which are suitable for ROMs that change the system structure? What is the full set of backup restore options that are compatible or incompatible with various ROM updates?
Could the Titanium Backup XML data format be compatible with all ROMs even if the binary format isn't?
Personally, I restore my apps using TiBackup all the time. And I use superbackup to restore sms, call logs, contacts.
Never really had a problem.
Maybe when restoring across a new build there could b issues.
But other than that, restore whatever the he** you want. Lol
Cheers
Here is one reply I received regarding restoring from Titanium.
For the Rapture ROM, iB4STiD says:
Q. CAN I RESTORE SYSTEM DATA WITH TITANIUM BACKUP ?
A. NO!! THIS INCLUDES CALL LOGS, SMS, AS WELL AS APPS AND THERE DATA!! OTHER WISE YOU WILL HAVE APPS FC, AND OTHER ODDITIES!
Here is a response from an earlier question from a different developer.
I'm not familiar with SuperBackupPro - does it do anything different than MyBackupPro? I'm trying to figure out what aspect of the different backup/restore programs is or is not compatible with system data.
You should never use Titanium Backup to restore system apps or data since they are built for a different rom and will most probably cause problems. I always use TiBu to restore user apps and data. I use SMS Backup and Restore for text messages. I don't care about call logs but I would think that there are apps that can back these up. I re-setup bluetooth and wifi from scratch since that only takes seconds. Note that some roms I have tried over the years have cautioned not to use TiBu to restore anything, but have worked anyway for user apps and data. Some roms do really not allow you to restore anything (odex instead of deodex perhaps - I am not sure) since TiBu just hangs when it is trying to restore. When this occurs, I just flash a different rom since I would not take the time it requires to set them up from scratch.
I have never had a full wipe delete any pictures or other media but then I never wipe the internal or external cards, just system, data, and caches.
I always use tibu for user apps and data and the xml format in tibu for sms and call logs. Have done this for as long as I can remember over at least 5 phones. I even move backups from phone to phone and rom to rom. (went nexus 5 to note 4 to another note 4 and from cm13 back to kk).
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nine5raptor said:
I always use tibu for user apps and data and the xml format in tibu for sms and call logs. Have done this for as long as I can remember over at least 5 phones. I even move backups from phone to phone and rom to rom. (went nexus 5 to note 4 to another note 4 and from cm13 back to kk).
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Thanks for clarifying. I thought TiBu's XML format would be safe, but I'm glad to have confirmation. That covers the main requirement for restoring.
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Thanks for clarifying. I thought TiBu's XML format would be safe, but I'm glad to have confirmation. That covers the main requirement for restoring.
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I use the standard backup and restore for apps. I just use the xml for sms and call log.
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This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?
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This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?
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Rule #1 as you will see as you get more into this you NEVER restore "system" apps this will create FC - force closures and errors all day long. Only restore user apps and data.
If coming from a Samsung going to a Nexus for example, you would TiBu all your users apps/data on Samsung to restore to Nexus. You do not have to restore the Google backup you can...but more senior people like me setup device as a new device. Google restore does not bring over your user data and settings like TiBu will. TiBu will give you exactly what the app was like on the old device....google will not in majority of cases...for me none.
- TiBu user app/data and no system data
- Setup new device as new and restore TiBu app/data. Can do the Google it you like and then let TiBu overwrite it
You can install the Pico gapps. Let's say you had a new rom without Google Newstand...even if it was not in the gapps your TiBu would restore it just fine with no issues.... But the gapps does add other background google services you need not visible to eye like apps...but the apps can fully come from your backup even if they dont exist on the new device.
No you will not get your call log, etc since you do not restore system info. But there are third party apps that can back that up if that is that important. I use apps like Textra and not device messaging apps so when TiBu restores Textra I get it all back old messages\etc....again you do not want to restore 'red' system apps but find 3rd party apps that backup call log, text (if google app), etc.
What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues
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What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues
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Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.
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Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.
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Thanks for the info. I'll just stick with the user apps and back them into a folder. You also recommended textra for texts? So it will just back up like a normal user app and you can keep all your text messages that way?