[SOLVED] n00b w/HD7S Needing Clarification on Random Things To Prep Phone For ROM - HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I've only started the learning process for modifying my WP7 as of today but in the past 7-8hrs (not kidding, I'm a semi-nerd LOL) I've learned a ton of stuff. I come from Android and Blackberry so this is new territory for me and my stock WP7 is absolutely boring me to death with those 10 dumb color options and very minimal ability to customize the phone. I just need a little clarification on a few things before I start tweaking stuff that I can't un-tweak later. I've tried searching everything I can with a screaming 11mo old with me all day before typing this up. So forgive me if I missed a thread out of the 50 billion on here
I currently have the AT&T HD7S, never modded, SIM locked, totally virgin phone. When I bought the phone I'm assuming it was running the NoDo version (correct my if I'm wrong) because I had to manually upgrade to Mango myself after unboxing. So here are my ?'s...
1.) Is it true that there's currently no way I can roll back to NoDo in order to be able to flash this ROM? I read the official Mango update modifies the bootloader so that HSPL can't be used BUT HSPL is needed to be able to load custom ROMs. I have the official Mango but I want custom ROMs/themes (catch22'ish) =/
2.) Initially I hooked this phone up to a PC laptop I no longer have. Is that where my backup exists? Will this potentially cause a problem in the future? My Zune software currently shows no updates available and no restore info below. I read somewhere if you don't have access to your own backup you can use someone else's as long as it's the same phone model and carrier. How does that really help when it comes to my own personal data or does that not matter? Not sure what sort of data is stored within a WP7 backup.
3.) As far as dev-unlocking the phone...as of earlier tonight the Chevron site wasn't allowing token purchases. Is there some way around this using some other tool AND/OR does the Chevron unlock even work on an HTC phone? I have a feeling the answer is no but I'm asking anyway. Also, if I can eventually dev-unlock does that override the need to SIM unlock?
4.)Is there any sense to interop-unlocking if I'm not a developer? All I'm wanting at the moment is the ability to change up my phone. Baby steps...
5.)Can you sense there's something I've missed? LOL
My main goal here is to load this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271118&page=11and/or themes and eventually start learning more advanced parts of the process. There's just SO much to this OS and 500 threads leading to 500 other threads when I'm just trying to figure out what one simple term means so I'm just hoping someone can help me sort out what I might be overlooking. Pls excuse my n00bness Everyone here is a friggin' genius in my eyes so all feedback is appreciated. I'll get there eventually. Thanks in advance!
**UPDATE** Just noticed on that ROM thread page it says it comes with dev-interop unlock...now I'm even more confused D:
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* My "Bootloader Screen" Info (if needed)*
PD29150 SS-BC (4K)
SPL- 4.5.2250.0 (129185) MNG
MicroP(LED) 0x07
TOUCH S1 (v1.8,#1624)
SD Sandisk 15193MB
Partition Info- v211v413
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Current OS Version: 7.10.7720.68

shameless bump, someone has to know

1. Use the method in this thread and follow each step to the letter (it worked for me)
2. Yes you are correct. The back-up is store on the PC. It backs up the users data (ex: music, photos, settings) I never tried using someone else's back-up, but I don't see why not.
3. Most custom roms are unlocked. I'm using the DeepShining Mango and it is unlocked. In terms of being carrier unlocked, it will remain no matter.
4. Interop unlocking is for:
Registry editors and provisioning tools
File explorers
Accent color changers (uses the registry)
Examples: WP7 Root Tools, TouchXperience apps
So if that's what you're after, then it's a must for a dev
5. Nope you've pretty much covered it all haha

KayxGee1 said:
1. Use the method in this thread and follow each step to the letter (it worked for me)
2. Yes you are correct. The back-up is store on the PC. It backs up the users data (ex: music, photos, settings) I never tried using someone else's back-up, but I don't see why not.
3. Most custom roms are unlocked. I'm using the DeepShining Mango and it is unlocked. In terms of being carrier unlocked, it will remain no matter.
4. Interop unlocking is for:
Registry editors and provisioning tools
File explorers
Accent color changers (uses the registry)
Examples: WP7 Root Tools, TouchXperience apps
So if that's what you're after, then it's a must for a dev
5. Nope you've pretty much covered it all haha
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Thank you SO MUCH!!!! I have been waiting hours for someone to reply to this! DeepShining Mango is exactly the ROM I'm wanting to load. You're awesome *high five *

OOH one quick thing....HSPL is available for HD7S T9295? Just checking bcs I've confused myself on that and the interop-unlock stuff. Thx
**EDIT** NM just saw Schubert T9295 (PD29150) is supported on the thread for RSPL/HSPL download...geebus I hope I'm reading this right

Once you can get the HSPL to replace the SPL,you start flashing the dev-rom. So as ssimple as it is, very 1st step is to checkyour original ( or virgin ad you said) SPL then flash it with DFT rspl or HSPL. After this you can start flash whatever rom you want to have experience with.
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New to my diamond, interested in a cooked ROM

Hi there, im fairly new to my Telus Diamond, i love this phone but its giving me some grief with the Touchflo3d being laggy etc...
Anyways I heard you can flash new ROMS that are custom and more stable and help out the phones performance a lot but i have a few questions before I flash.
Here's my phones specs before i ask my questions.
ROM Version: 1.06.661.1 (old i believe)
ROM Date: 07/21/08
Radio Version: 0.99.90v
Hardware Version 0080
and i dont think the rest is important.
And im usuing WM 6.1
ok now here are my questions:
1) If I flash to a cooked ROM, i heard it Erases EVERYTHING, so with that in mind, im a telus customer, does it effect my service plan, ex: can i still use my phone like i bought it and make txt msgs, emails, msn, phone calls etc.. or do i have to set it back up again?
2) Do i have to use the same Radio Version?
3) would my Current network number and Cureent Channel be changed? If so how does that effect my phone?
4) umm with my programs that are on my phone, ex: office mobile, WMP, MP3 trimmer remote desktop etc... will i still have those? Or will i loose the registration for them.
5) this is my last question i believe, would I have to dump my current stock ROM for a backup? Like is that recommended or is there a backup of my ROM already on this website.
I appreciate any help, and sorry for being such a noob. The only thing i've flashed before was a custom firmware on my PSP lol and that was reallly easy...
1)Yes it erases everything the easiest way to explain it is like this: "rom" stands for read only memory.... kind of like a cd rom. And the outcome is the same also, when you flash a new rom it is like writing a new cd image.
2) no you don't have to use the same radio version, but some roms will require certai n radios (most roms come packed with radios though so you shouldn't have to mess with it)
3) Flashing a new rom changes your phone but not your network (your number would still be the same)
4)You will lose anything you installed unless you back it up. Depending in the rom, office mobile and stuff like that might be preloaded.
5) There should be a backup on the website, a dump should not be necessary.
Again on the backup thing you will want to back up are your contacts sms emails ect anything you want to keep before flashing.
Flashing isn't hard, you just need to read the directions MAKE SURE YOU READ BEFORE YOU FLASH. like i said it isn't hard but if you don't read everything before you flash you may turn your phone into a very expensive paper weight.
PS here is a good place to start your reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
Alright sweet thank you very much
Im not going to upgrade just yet though because i still want to learn more
about it and im iffy about it mainly cuz i still want to be able to make phone calls lol and i dont see anyone posting anything for the telus versions.
Oh and one more thing before I upgrade the ROM do i have to upgrade the HardSPL first? or can i just use the CID lock, then the ROM?
no, you defenetly would want to cid unlock first, otherwise you will trash your bootloader and brick your phone
ok so Cid unlock, HardSPL, then flash the rom
hard spl is cid unlock after unlocking you are free to flash away
Oh ok, gotcha haha
.. i hope
One more thing lol sorry...
Um that link you sent me for the steps
"[TUT]Complete upgrading guide (HardSPL+Radio+ROM) NOT FOR CDMA USERS!!!"
Well i dont know what CDMA means but Im pretty sure im a CMDA user. So is it safe to still fallow those directions? or must i need to do something different.
read post #4 in that thread, you can't miss it.
is it alright if my Diamond says DIAM500? on all the guides they say DIAM100, when you check the SPL, mine is stock and in the tri colored screen it says:
Security Unlocked
DIAM500 <------ (Do i have to find a ROM specific for this modle?)
SPL-0.57.0000 <------ (I dont see this ver. on the forums anywheres)
MircoP-Diam (LED) vB
PSOC-Diam STAGE_EVT v20
Serial
(its blank)
I didnt run any CID unlockers or anything, any insight?
Dang Telus...

[Q] Flash my Orange Tattoo

Hi!
After a long thing, I want to debrand my Orange Tattoo as Orange have added a pile of their own steaming cack that is cluttering up my phone, as well as removing some of the useful features that should be available on there (Flickr, GTalk, GMail, Youtube).
I am a noob to this so please be gentle! I have read a lot of different forum posts about this and I must admit I am confused as to where I should begin.
1) Is there a way to do this without making a GoldCard as I don't have a card reader? I can however access my home network from my phone as I have set up file sharing on my laptop (this is how I have added some of the apps). Or, can I make the GoldCard from my Tattoo?
2) What is the best image to flash? I need my phone to be fully functional, just missing all the orange rubbish. Would a default HTC image work with the market etc? If not, I have found a MoDaCo Rom that I think might be ok...
3) I have found loads of guides on how to do the flashing, but is there a definitive noobs guide (key by key) on how to do it start to finish including the GoldCard creation if necessary?
4) I rooted my phone using a one click app but I'm not sure I trust it is working (can't delete the Orangeware/demo games etc)... can you recommend a "fool proof" method to get my flash etc to work?
5) I will be keeping my phone on the Orange network even after I upgrade it to something better. Will that still require the phone to be SIM unlocked?
Thank you very much in advance
Olleh said:
Hi!
After a long thing, I want to debrand my Orange Tattoo as Orange have added a pile of their own steaming cack that is cluttering up my phone, as well as removing some of the useful features that should be available on there (Flickr, GTalk, GMail, Youtube).
I am a noob to this so please be gentle! I have read a lot of different forum posts about this and I must admit I am confused as to where I should begin.
1) Is there a way to do this without making a GoldCard as I don't have a card reader? I can however access my home network from my phone as I have set up file sharing on my laptop (this is how I have added some of the apps). Or, can I make the GoldCard from my Tattoo?
2) What is the best image to flash? I need my phone to be fully functional, just missing all the orange rubbish. Would a default HTC image work with the market etc? If not, I have found a MoDaCo Rom that I think might be ok...
3) I have found loads of guides on how to do the flashing, but is there a definitive noobs guide (key by key) on how to do it start to finish including the GoldCard creation if necessary?
4) I rooted my phone using a one click app but I'm not sure I trust it is working (can't delete the Orangeware/demo games etc)... can you recommend a "fool proof" method to get my flash etc to work?
5) I will be keeping my phone on the Orange network even after I upgrade it to something better. Will that still require the phone to be SIM unlocked?
Thank you very much in advance
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hi
go here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821004
u have all req guides read and do the needful
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[Q] Cannot downgrade G1 / Goldcard method not working

After looking through the varying questions concerning the same topic and, subsequently, not seeing the right answers - within the right timeframe (e.g. within the past month or so), I decided that a new thread was needed. So here's it is:
A branded G1 (mine, T-mobile, Germany) is what I want to downgrade so that it may be rooted and upgraded with a custom ROM. The problem, I am finding, is not that the instructions aren't correct. Rather, it's that a piece of the instruction set doesn't exist. Namely, the revskills.de website. I mention this because I have tried, repeatedly, to boot with the DREAIMG.nbh in order to downgrade and have consisitently (after numerous downloads from different sites) received the same error - 00028002 (or something like that) while trying to load it. I eventually learned that some phones needed a "goldcard" so I set about trying to do that. Got the CID, reversed it, etc. but the part about going to psas.revskills.de is the killer. The site is down and apparently, no other method of changing the carrier ID exists (or, if it does, the method is too ugly to mention, let alone comprehensible by someone like me, a not-so-good-programmer). Worse yet, all the instructions involving the generation of a goldcard also involve this website and consequently, because of the aforementioned down-status of the site, renders all instructions moot (Grade: D for relying on unreliable sources). So, back to the question: does a method exist outside of what I have mentioned? Where can I find it? Does it have a cost attached to it?
If you've read this far it means that full words and sentences don't confuse you (in light of so-called "l337sp33k") and I applaud you. I will applaud you even more when a well thought out and not-so-glib answer unriddled with blog cliches and platitudes can be found as a reply to this post...
Seriously, if you don't know an answer, a link to check out or someone I can refer to, don't waste your time (or mine) with a the standard "you need to read this and that rules before asking a question" reply. I have trolled through this forum and a few others for the past 2 days looking for the answers to the question of downgrading and finding not the right answers that are specific to this problem (yes, I've read thropugh cyanogenmod wiki, read through the wiki here for dream/g1 phones, gsm programmer's sites, android dedicated sites, etc...ALL of them point to revskills for the goldcard gen (except for one which allows dowloading a perl prog to compile yourself to make the goldcard - I'm not so good with perl yet)
If you need to check the website go here:
psas.revskills.de/?q=goldcard
it's not working for me, whether through proxies in the US, netherlands, britain, frnace, or germany. My only conclusion is that it has been shut down.
Thanks for you attention and I really appreciate some advice from one of you that may be able to shed more light on this.
Incidentally:
SD Card: Hama 2GB Micro SD(formatted fat32)
Droid/HTC G1 phone has been factory reset to:
Firmware: 1.6
Kernel: 2.6.29-00479-g3c7df37 [email protected] #19
Baseband ver.: 62.50S.20.17U_2.22.19.26I
Build No.: DRC 92
are you going on that non exiatent site to download the qmat thing? maybe try looking for it as a torrent file... use bittorrent or something and see if it's out there... i wish i knew how to help more, but i never needed to do anything like that...
stupid question but did you try both dreaimg files? rc29 and rc7?
both img files
Yes, I tried both. The US version gave me the same response as the European one. Tried qmat 5.0.2 and got nowhere with it (i ran out of time before I could figure out everything it could do - apart from simply reversing the cid). The only way to create a gold card seems to be through revskills...kind of a raw deal for the rest of us, if you ask me.
yeahh haha this sucks im not sure what you can do... hopefully someone sees this who can help you. sorry
I am currently trying out the alternate root method from your guide. Something's working...the build version is now CRB43 and I have cupcake (1.5) installed - I think. I shoudl be able to go through the guide in order now, right?
yeah if you have 1.5 than all you need is a custom recovery installed and you have root access... i prefer amonra recovery.. than you can flash radio and spl and go even further by flashing the newer 2825 radio and 0013d hboot
I just have to update my phone account with a data plan (forgot I didnt have one and cant sign in to google without it). Fortunately, it's cheap and takes only a day to update.
OK, so i worked the alt recovery method, but I can't sign in to google. (I used the AMON_RA recovery img.) I can't do anything now. The phone is (for all intents and purposes, bricked. I then tried to do the work around to get the wireless turned on at the touch me screen. It doesn't work. Still no root access. trying to go back to stock rom, no go. Still get the "Not Allow" 00028002 error. Haven't seen the fast boot screen lately. I try the back arrow from the boot loader screen...nothing. Even went so far as to try the HTC site boot unlocker method. HTC Sync installed, android sdk installed, etc. got the drivers in win7 x64 to acknowledge the phone being plugged in...it even recognozed (once) as the HTC Dream/G1, after that never again. This is nuts! It's funny as well as highly annoying. I'm running out of ideas and could use some suggestions...
Thanks
incidentally, the link to "DREAIMG.nbh" in the unrooting section connects to a download of the update.zip file. So, the link is misplaced or something...
good news, the gold card gen sit is back up, however, I can't connect to the phone with adb...I have tried the workaround but I guess the image on this thing is still not rooted. I'm out of ideas what to do, I cannot sign in to google (registration work around) and I can't connect with adb to all the other work to change things. This phone is hosed (and I will absolutely not go to T-mobile (in germany) they're even worse here than in the US...
Here is the link that I found for dreaming.nbh file.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NAAS5VBS
See if that works.
So, I am resigning myself to never getting this fixed. I have a rom I cannot access because the data plan on my sim card is for Maxxim, while the rom sets everything up as T-Mobile. Maxxim support will not give out the APN info and, to top it off, the wireless work around does not work because the cupcake dreaimg.nbh and amon_ra recovery image still do not allow root access. I'm lost, got a "working brick" phone, and I'll be damned if I go crawling back to t-mobile whether here in Europe or the US! Thanks for the help anyway...
yeah sorry bout that will fix the link, but its the same one you use to 'downgrade' on the Root method.. just brings you to 1.0, then flash the update.zip to 1.5 or 1.6...
so you cant flash the DREAIMG.nbh file? and you cant do anything via recovery?
but your device works if you had a data plan.. lol wow all i can think of is trying to flash the orange.nbh or get the DREAIMG.nbh to work..
Yeah, tried the orange.nbh as well and I get the same error for every nbh I try:
"00028002 Not Allow". It's really weird that all the nbh do not work...it's almost deliberate. The only root that worked was the alternate root, but wouldn't that have let me flash other roms? Interesting that it didn't.
Good that this G1 is a spare, but I would still like to get it working. I've found a use for it at work but it needs to be rooted. Will post back shortly with results from the DREAIMG.nbh and orange.nbh (if need be).
Incidentally:
Bootloader screen:
DREA110 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
SEP 2 2008
Does this give you any ideas? I can get to the recovery console but it does not necessarily mean I have root (as far as I've seen to this point). I mean, if I were able to register the phone without a data plan (using the wireless connection) I think I would be ok. I did have a point when I was able to connect to the phone via adb (but the phone was registered).
I know I don't have root because I am unable to do the <enter>reboot<enter> thing in the reg bypass method. How did that happen? -I've got no idea...
Another thought, Is there another way to install drivers on my windows machine so that the phone is recognised by adb (even though it's not regitered and I have no way of turning on debugging)? Is there a way to alter the build manifest so that USB debugging is on by default thereby allowing me to connect via windows?
Its painful to read threads like this..
Do you still have your sdcards CID from the OP?
If so using the sdcard you have the CID to make the goldcard on your computer, tben takethe orange nbh rename it to DREAIMG.nbh and place it onthe root of the sdcard.
Then flash the orage nbh and use fastboot to install the 2708+ radio/spl/custom recovery (ra or clockwork)
If you dont have the CID find a device (likely a friends phone) that can read the CID and pick up from there. (notice no adb, and only fastboot after flashing an nbh with an engenering spl)
(I didn'tsay it earlier as the goldcard site was down...)
How to I go about reading the CID on another phone? I am not too familiar with the process. I have a nokia X2. Will that work through a bluetooth connection? (it's my wife's phone and I don't want to try anything with that one until I am absolutely sure.
If you could point me at something I could read on how to do this, I would be exteremely grateful...
Thanks
the site http://psas.revskills.de/?q=goldcard is odwn for me, so I can´t create my gold card.
Any other way to access the site?
I'm following the CM guide for my inspore 4g, but when I searched this forum, this thread came up
So here's my final result:
* Followed steps in the guide for alt root method (nothing else worked but that) - gained root.
* Restarted in order to follow thorugh with the radio upgrade
* No root
* Reflash the ROM
* still no root
* Cannot connect adb to device
* Windows sees it only as USB (even after uninstalling and pointing the hardware to the Android SDK USB Drivers
So I've come into an infinite loop:
* Can't gain root without a goldcard (or some ability to take the NBH apart and modify the kernel - DEFINITELY not my strongest skill...
* Can't get a goldcard without being able to read the CID
* Can't read the CID without connecting with adb
* Can't connect with adb without USB Debugging on
* Can't turn on usb debugging without a) registering phone (no data plan) or b) having root access to type in the commands at reg screen (with SIM Card in) or initial screen (without SIM card)
I've tried every ROM I could find, used the Android Kitchen tool (to modify the ROMs I've found, adding root access), I've read every guide I could get my hands on, as well as trying to extract the nb files from the NBH (in hopes of spotting what I needed to change in order to enable the phone to come on with wireless ON). I have been unsucessful. Is the phone now a paperweight?
I appreciate and respect any suggestions (I've already thought of buying a new phone - so that suggestion is out ;-) ).
Thanks

[Solved] Installing a custom ROM / Shipped ROM

Hey my question is the following.
Seeing as the Interop Unlock doesn't work for any HTC devices older than version 7720 I'm gonna try the following:
Restore a 7720 backup onto the phone, hard reset it and entirely start over.
Thing is, I dont own a 7720 backup anymore and I really dont wanna try flashing myself.
Question: Can anyone upload his/her 7720 backup from a European HTC HD7 (I'm Belgian btw) so that I can try this proces and hopefully get the interop unlock done this way without flashing?
I wanna start all over for the reason that my phone is draining my battery faster than a $20 hooker when the Navy ships come into port.
[edit]: If I hard reset now it will show up as a Mango phone with 8107 standard on it, which is NOT entitled to be Interop Unlocked, till Heathcliff comes up with something awesome!
[edit2]: In case you still have your 7720 backup available from Zune backup at this moment, you can find it under
"C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update", its the file that looks like "f3874e8d - c6f37f88 - c1504a27 - f0452346" that I need
[edit3]: I did read that backups are phone specific but it wouldnt hurt to give it a shot as I really dont want to flash
Any help / link to the backup is highly appreciated!
as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.
sh4d0w86 said:
as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.
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Well was worth a shot, what I had in mind that if i used that backup, I would have the stuff aka device of said person. Then hard reset and my system would be wiped clean, starting up with 7720.
01) I might try a different radio but I after searching a bit I found a few posts saying that the radio wont do much for the battery, well maybe a bit but not noteworthy.
02) I did try a reset, it starts up with 8107 then, and the battery IS fixed then... problem is, you cant interop unlock anything above 7720, which I kinda really need
03) I've read some tutorials about flashing a custom rom, and they all say to revert back to NoDo before even attempting it... thing is, I cant find any NoDo European rom (the links are dead). And even if I manage to find one (found just the one) its a branded one, while my phone is an unbranded phone.
Also that guide said in the comments that an unbranded phone is only flashable to NoDo with the goldcard method, which I'm not fond of using frankly.
So I guess I just have to wait till Heathcliff comes up with a way to interop unlock v2 mango devices
Thanks for your reply though!
01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.
sh4d0w86 said:
01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.
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01) Ah ok, I might try the radio thing then, only difficulty is that there are so many and no real threads saying which one could be more beneficial than which. (I know much of this is based on the personal device instead of the OS)
Especially I just read that it wont touch the OS, which I initially thought it did in some way.
03) however I did see the tutorial and im inclined to try that as well. The only issue is that I would like to use the 7.5 shipped ROM if any but that leaves me with 3 questions.
--> I see the HTC HD7 non shipped ROMS section, seeing as I'm from Europe there is only one (the european one) non shipped ROM under Mango, are you certain that that is the one I need? aka does that work on my HTC HD7 for sure?
--> Which is the version of that Mango, is that the 7720 I asked in my original thread or is that an updated version, like 7740 or so? (seeing as it says "Test ROM")
--> Or would you recommend using the "Windows Phone 7 Unbranded ROMs (NoDo)" and if so, there are 2 European ones, seeing as I'm a total noob on that, which one belongs to my phone and why? (cause 1 says ROM 3.03 and the other 1.70 which is a huge difference but no clue in what.. :$)
Thanks in advance, the answers gotten have been very helpful so far!
[edit] The ROM I just asked these 2 questions about.. I'm sorry to say this but I can't download it for the simple reason that apparantly the download button wants to go to MegaUpload but that site has been thrown offline by the FBI as you propably know.
01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?
sh4d0w86 said:
01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?
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For the wiki link, I've found that and I will try this unless the ROM works, seems like a more permanent solution. Its propably some app using battery without me knowing so just wanted to perform a hard reset, which is impossible without my 7720 backup (for interop reasons)
What I didnt really get out of that topic and related ones refered to in that topic is if I pick a radio above the one I now have (the mango with tethering) for say a 5.51...radio from preNoDo, will I lose anything special, like the tethering itself or is that just a "title name"?
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But I have an unbranded phone, wont it be bad to put a branded ROM on there or will that mather be erased when I hard reset after putting the ROM on?
Or am I missing the whole point of Branded ROM here, I thought that had to do with things as if you were a AT&T user or Tmobile user or summit cause I am neither of the above. As I said, first time.
It's just that on some threads for custom HD7 roms I've read that if you have an unbranded phone and want to downgrade: "forget it". Which is exactly what I have imo.
Firmware revision number: 2250.21.51004.401
Bootloader version: 5.10.2250.0 (132968)
[edit] I am that far (I know it's yet to begin ofc) that i've finally started the download of "RUU​_Schubert​_S_HTC​_Europe​_4.05​.401​.02_Radio​_5.69​.09.29a​..." file (the only European file under Mango, 7720, the one above Ethernet Sharing)
01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.
sh4d0w86 said:
01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.
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Ok, that does make sense. Way more than the information I read on several other topics, wherefor thank you kindly!
I shall take note of the 06's method to downgrade my bootloader.
That leaves me with 2 small questions, there's a little section called "if RSPL'd and HSPL is desired". I have no clue what that is, should I just follow the steps and do as it says anyways or is that optional (refering to "if desired")?
And secondly, "38. download ROM of choice. Shipped ROMs are available, here."
I am downloading "RUU_Schubert_S_HTC_Europe_4.05.401.02_Radio_5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE.exe" which should be the correct 7720 ROM for my phone (hopefully?). By "ROM of choice", does that mean I can put Deepshining or NextGen+ on there as well or isnt that an option for my Unbranded HD7? (like they both warn for in their install tutorials)
Now that I think of it my phone is like you said Branded to Europe, which means they warn for "unbranded ROMs" like the one in your siggy's third link amirite?
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But that aside, I thank you very much for the help, it's highly appreciated, now lets hope my HD7 wont brick on me and I'll be a happy man *moves mouse to the "Thank" button*
01. RSPL is a temporary SPL, which reverts back to OSPL after reset. HSPL is a permanent SPL, which replaces OSPL. so, if you don't want to go through the hassle of RSPL'ing every time you want to flash a Custom ROM... i suggest HSPL'ing.
02. with XSPL, one can flash any Schubert ROM, including Custom ROMs, yes.
03. unsure what you are asking, sorry.
Basically what I was asking if flashing the Mango 7720 shipped ROM works, if I could use this method (seeing as the tutorial says "Rom of choice") to Flash NextGen+ instead?
Cause in that tutorial (could be the one from Deepshining too) there's a line that says if you have an unbranded ROM dont even try to downgrade the bootloader cause that'll brick the phone.
But from the info you just gave me I can make up that my phone's ROM is not unbranded but Branded to Europe or am I that far off?
(meaning that I can in fact downgrade the Bootloader and Flash a custommade ROM instead)
[edit] being this kind of a noob and all I kinda got what HSPL and RSPL does, but what is XSPL? You've mentioned it in a previous post in HD7 General but cant seem to find any down-to-earth info. Its not in the tutorial either, unless XSPL just means Bootloader 3.xx or 2.xx, then I got it
So if i want Deepshining (aka custom ROM) I need to do XSPL instead of RSPL or HSPL? (XSPL, for custom Roms, I assume... means I need step 19 instead of 06 or run through everything from bootloader 5 -> 4 -> 3 to get to step 19 aka XSPL)
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Summing up, if I want the 7720 mango I do step 06 and continue at 30.
If I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do step 06 -> 09 and from then on every step till the bottom? If that's correct I got the picture
(Thanks for the effort here btw)
XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?
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XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?
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Well now you see how much of a student I still am, but yes I think I got it
Refering to your tutorial, I see 2 scenarios
* I want the 7720 mango I do to step 06 and continue at 30.
* I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do to step 06, then continue with 09 and from then on every step till the bottom?
If that's correct I got the picture and my questions are answered entirely
hmm, well, i haven't ever actually tried ansar's SLSPL before... so, i can't tell you what exactly to do after using it. maybe report back here after installing SLSPL, then i can guide you where to go from there?
Ok I will, I'll start right now and see where that brings me, starting off with step 01, downloading Task 29 and 00. Then the SLSPL.
Lets hope for a nonbrick
Ok, I now have
Os version: 7.10.7720.68
Bootloader version 4.5.2250.0
I assume I continue with step 09. in your tutorial if I want Deepshining ROM or stop if I'm happy to interop unlock my phone now and update to 8107 through Zune?
yep, continue to Step 09 on the XSPL Tutorial.
Okiedo, next step
Downloaded "Schubert_Europe_1.54.401.01_Radio_5.51.09.29_22.32.50.10U"
Did steps till 18.
Bootloader: 1.54.2250.0
[edit] nevermind what I wrote here, continueing with step 30 seeing as you suggested HSPL instead of RSPL seeing as I read that RSPL voids waranty or summit.
What is the difference "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG1_INSTALL" & "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG2_INSTALL". I know its Gen 1 & 2, but which one do I have and how do I check or is it just NoDo = G1 and Mango = G2, in that case I have to launch G2?
two rar files..? if referring to XSPL, only need FG2 aka the latest version.
There we go, HSPL3.1.2250.0
CotullaHSPL 0x07
So now I have the downloaded and extracted Deepshining ROM, I have "RUU_signed.nbh"
I run Task 29 or the ROMupdateUtlity.exe (inside the ROM) and that should be the end?
[edit] every time Deepshining comes up with a new rom or I want any ROM installed I have to go through all these steps again right? Or can I just flash another ROM on there as I desire, aka an updated version of Deepshining for example?

[Q] how to dev unlock

okay so new to the whole WP7.5 scene coming from android so im wondering how to dev unlock my HD7 ofc but i have this pressing issue of how mango is supposedly locked down for now or something
is their a way to downgrade my bootloader inorder to unlock WITHOUT external hardware or a goldcard except a windows 7 computer Data cable and HD7 if anybody can help greatly appreciated thanks
ps i did search but all info is old or confuses me kinda seems the WP7 is in shambles right now half of us want android the other half dont and everything for dev unlock that i can find is Goldcard i know theirs got to be another way
actually 2 ways
Franzferdinan51 said:
okay so new to the whole WP7.5 scene coming from android so im wondering how to dev unlock my HD7 ofc but i have this pressing issue of how mango is supposedly locked down for now or something
is their a way to downgrade my bootloader inorder to unlock WITHOUT external hardware or a goldcard except a windows 7 computer Data cable and HD7 if anybody can help greatly appreciated thanks
ps i did search but all info is old or confuses me kinda seems the WP7 is in shambles right now half of us want android the other half dont and everything for dev unlock that i can find is Goldcard i know theirs got to be another way
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hi Franzferdinan51
actually there are 2 ways;
1; goldcard
2; HSPL/RSPL
first you have to see if your phone is supported for custom rom.
enter bootloader and see info ....
cheers and have a gr8 day
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Hi,
did you solved your downgrade problem?
you didn't gave enough informations about your device (ie os/boot version) but you can try ansar's spl rom here...works on european devices.
no i'm still unsuccessful this is what my bootloader reads
PD29110 SS-BC (4K)
SPL-5.10.2250.0(132968) MNG
MicroP(LED) 0x07
TOUCH S1(V1.8,#1624)
SD SANDISK 15193MB
Partition Info-v211v413
any help would be much appreciated i cannot do gold card
you have to down load a stock rom first.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411904
flash/install rom
that will downgrade hspl
then check hspl again....it should not be 5.1 anymore
then flash cotulla custom hspl
them get and install custom rom of your chose
cheers and have a gr8 day
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device relocked
hey guys, i know this isn't in the correct (specific) thread, but i can't post there yet because of the 10 post rule.
So I have DeepShining 7.6 and everything was great until I used HTC Connection twice. Now XAPs won't deploy and Zune always says something about not being able to connect the device through the internet and also I had some tweak for WMDC to detect the phone, but now it does not.
I know that using HTC Connection Setup twice can relock the device but I can't change the past I would just like to know what I can do now (besides reflash) to fully unlock the device.
Also, if there is no other way besides reflashing; does anyone know a way to back up all things like the layout of my pinned tiles and just general data like that, including apps downloaded. I really do not want to have to install all my apps again, then restart my games, then reset all the settings in my apps, then add my contacts again etc.
Sorry if I'm hijacking the thread but I really did try to search everywhere for a suitable solution to no avail.
Thanks for any help.

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