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Ok.. So I searched a while, and I'm not sure if I was just using the wrong terms, but I couldn't get a result that answered my question.
Anywho.. I'm using Fresh Toast 2.0b2, and I'm having an odd problem when playing games that have touch input.
For example... Whilst playing the game "Radiant" The phone slows down considerably when I use the touch screen to move my ship.. I would say framerates cut almost in half.. but clear up as soon as I lift my thumb from the screen..
Same thing happens in the game "Blow Up" When I tap-hold the bottom of the screen to pick up the bombs to drag to the beams, the phone slows WAAAYY down, but clears up the moment I drop the bomb/lift my finger from the screen..
Could this be a ROM problem? Background App Problem? Just one of the quirks of the Hero?
Any input will be seen as valuable.
Thanks,
~jUgGsY~
jUgGsY said:
Ok.. So I searched a while, and I'm not sure if I was just using the wrong terms, but I couldn't get a result that answered my question.
Anywho.. I'm using Fresh Toast 2.0b2, and I'm having an odd problem when playing games that have touch input.
For example... Whilst playing the game "Radiant" The phone slows down considerably when I use the touch screen to move my ship.. I would say framerates cut almost in half.. but clear up as soon as I lift my thumb from the screen..
Same thing happens in the game "Blow Up" When I tap-hold the bottom of the screen to pick up the bombs to drag to the beams, the phone slows WAAAYY down, but clears up the moment I drop the bomb/lift my finger from the screen..
Could this be a ROM problem? Background App Problem? Just one of the quirks of the Hero?
Any input will be seen as valuable.
Thanks,
~jUgGsY~
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FreshToast is buggy right now - hence the DEV rom titleing.
I also have noticed general touch bugyness. Especially slow responses to touch.
Kcarpenter said:
FreshToast is buggy right now - hence the DEV rom titleing.
I also have noticed general touch bugyness. Especially slow responses to touch.
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So should it be considered an actual BUG for FT?
jUgGsY said:
Could this be a ROM problem? Background App Problem? Just one of the quirks of the Hero?
Any input will be seen as valuable.
Thanks,
~jUgGsY~
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Not a ROM problem, Not specific to your device. I feel like its a problem with HTC's multitouch drivers.. Ive noticed the same problem since I got the phone in October. I'm pretty certain when you touch the phone, the Hero is looking for another touch point so it delays the phone.. The HTC Hero doesn't use the same multitouch drivers as other 2.1 devices even on the 2.1 ROMs, Thats why most multitouch programs on the market dont work right for the Hero, and also why I'm jumping to EVO, Hopefully HTC EVO doesn't have the same problem.
mental26 said:
Not a ROM problem, Not specific to your device. I feel like its a problem with HTC's multitouch drivers.. Ive noticed the same problem since I got the phone in October. I'm pretty certain when you touch the phone, the Hero is looking for another touch point so it delays the phone.. The HTC Hero doesn't use the same multitouch drivers as other 2.1 devices even on the 2.1 ROMs, Thats why most multitouch programs on the market dont work right for the Hero, and also why I'm jumping to EVO, Hopefully HTC EVO doesn't have the same problem.
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That definitely makes sense. Wish I would've known about the EVO previous to my purchase of the Hero..
So I did 2 neocores. One without touching the screen got me 25 dos. Then I touched the screen thru the whole benchmark and got 4.9 dos. Wow that's a big difference!
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Kcarpenter said:
So I did 2 neocores. One without touching the screen got me 25 dos. Then I touched the screen thru the whole benchmark and got 4.9 dos. Wow that's a big difference!
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That should be seen as a deal breaking bug for the Hero.. We should all go to Sprint and DEMAND EVOs.
Unless its not present in the official 2.1, I'm going to do what I can to get an EVO.
yeh its really weird how it works right. .27 and touch input didnt play well. at all. the biggest problem is the sh*t digitizer we have. it only senses x OR y moving AWAY OR TOWARDS eachother. it isnt true multtouch. a good example is to download multitouch paint from the demo market. it will read both fingers fine until one crosses the x or y axis in opposite directions.
but anyways back to when you touch, i think toasts source is amazing for the .29 but once htc releases the real .29 source he will really work his magic. .29 fixed alottt of the issues with stuff like music and touch having their own "processes". in .27 they were all bunched together and that made ultra lags while using bt and messing with phone.
This is fixed in Fresh Toast 2.1Final.
I love those two guys.
typing using it now...so good to have this working on my nook (without any hassle)
too bad the honeycomb only features don't work on cm
check out the trailer:
http://www.androidcentral.com/swype-30-beta-honeycomb-optimized-grab-it-now
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its kinda small in landscape
EverythingNook said:
its kinda small in landscape
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with swype thats what you want...the non hc version seems too big on the nook...i wonder if you add a hc tablet prop file will you get this special version?
Its a bit laggy but this might be solved if your nook is overclocked. Overall it does work well
Robotic Clone said:
Its a bit laggy but this might be solved if your nook is overclocked. Overall it does work well
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its pretty smooth oced @ 1.2ghz
very nice in portrait but a bit big for fast swyping in landscape mode
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So far I'm happy with the update. I HATED having the suggestions pop up right over what I was doing. You get used to landscape pretty quick.
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how does one prevent it from persistently guessing wrong words? it keeps force typing 'cds' when i try to type 'xda' developers.
photoassign said:
how does one prevent it from persistently guessing wrong words? it keeps force typing 'cds' when i try to type 'xda' developers.
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Tap in the three xda letters; then, on the far left end of the suggestions, you should see xda itself; tap it. Once done, the bar should change to asking you if you want to add that word to the dictionary - tap that and it gets added.
Thank you.
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Tap in the three xda letters; then, on the far left end of the suggestions, you should see xda itself; tap it. Once done, the bar should change to asking you if you want to add that word to the dictionary - tap that and it gets added.
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That one raised by blood pressure more than a few points before I finally figured it out as well...
Also, if you go into Settings>Language & keyboards>Swype settings>Word suggestion and uncheck Auto-correction, it won't use the word it thinks you want in lieu of the word you typed when you hit the space key (which drove me crazy until I changed that setting).
GirLuvsDroid said:
Also, if you go into Settings>Language & keyboards>Swype settings>Word suggestion and uncheck Auto-correction, it won't use the word it thinks you want in lieu of the word you typed when you hit the space key (which drove me crazy until I changed that setting).
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hey thanks for that...this was driving me crazy too
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I'm not seeing any lag with a non-overclocked NC.
Heck, it works beautifully on my Nook Color (7.0.2) and my HeroC
I was having constant lockups running CM7. I started uninstalling apps that were running services. When I uninstalled Swype, the lockups mostly stopped. I don't know if this was a coincidence. Anyone else experience lockups with Swype on CM7?
No lockups here and +1 for being super happy to have Swype on the NC. I had experimented enough to be able to hook up a usb keyboard and it worked, but it was a bit awkward using it. So I was looking for a small BT keyboard and then Swype sent me THE email. Very pleased and finally feel like my NC is all that it needs to be for my uses.
I feel very stupid, but where in the heck can I down load swype??? I go to the link but don't see a DL.
Thanks for your help
slugbug2010 said:
I feel very stupid, but where in the heck can I down load swype??? I go to the link but don't see a DL.
Thanks for your help
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You need to sign up for Swype Beta. All it takes is an email address.
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When I hold down backspace it does nothing. It doesn't delete multiple letters or words. Just deletes one letter then sits.
Any ideas?
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I've had the same problem, except mine will sometimes repeat a word over and over again when pressing backspace. Wish I knew wtf was going on.
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I'm LOVING SwiftKey X so far except this backspace issue. Deleting one letter at a time is getting really annoying.
When it does it to me it won't even delete anything. It's weird. It's the only thing I have found wrong with it. Have to discard messages and start over when it does it.
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You guys know about the swyping feature, right...? Swipe across the keyboard from right to left... watch what happens.
Seanbest said:
When I hold down backspace it does nothing. It doesn't delete multiple letters or words. Just deletes one letter then sits.
Any ideas?
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I had this problem when I first started using it. After reading through help, I figured out that we need to swipe from right to left to delete a word.....
Geez, I feel dumb. Wish I would have known. So frustrating. The backspace should be the same as every other keyboard. Oh well. Thanks!
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There are multiple issues with Swiftkey X on multiple devices and in multiple applications. This does not only concern the backspace key but also the space bar under certain conditions, hence the swipe-to-delete solution is only a partial one.
Just do a search on Google, like these
http://www.google.com/search?q=swiftkey+backspace
http://www.google.com/search?q=swiftkey+space+bar+bug
and you'll find a plethora of annoyed users who deem Swiftkey unusable on their systems.
After finding out about the swipe to delete, I've never had any other problems. It is scary how good the predictions are sometimes.
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Have you guys tried touchpal beta kb? It combines the best features from swipe and swiftkey to achieve a pretty sweet kb. For me its the best kb I've used on an android device and its only in beta. You can apply for beta testing from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188114
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It is scary how good the predictions are sometimes.
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Agreed, I love Swiftkey X on my girlfriend's LG Optimus Black. Currently it says she is saving about 75% of keystrokes.
If it only would work better on the SGS2 and the Xoom .
Sometimes when I'm tapping certain icons at certain times I will have to tap twice becuase the first time it didn't recognize my tap. Sometimes even multiple times. But other times my phone will run as smooth as butter. Hardware or software issue?
Same issues ...
I have the same issues.
This issue occurs often after I unlock my Phone and also during use.
In my opinion that's not acceptable!
How did you act?
Did you send it in?
Pet hate: "Smooth as butter" ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
And relax.
Yes, sometimes it doesn't recognise it. Even sometimes it will actually highlight the icon, so it's recognised I've pressed, but then done nothing with the action.
I would say software issue.
cspius said:
I have the same issues.
This issue occurs often after I unlock my Phone and also during use.
In my opinion that's not acceptable!
How did you act?
Did you send it in?
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I returned my phone because it was driving me insane.. but yes it's probably a software issue. I bought a Nexus S from google, and it's better, but sometimes it still happens on my NS, however much less often then on my O2X. But i would say just try using a different kernel or rom. CM7 still had the touchscreen issue. So that's why I kind of gave up on this phone.
Scougar said:
Pet hate: "Smooth as butter" ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
And relax.
Yes, sometimes it doesn't recognise it. Even sometimes it will actually highlight the icon, so it's recognised I've pressed, but then done nothing with the action.
I would say software issue.
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hahaha yeah sorry I don't know why I included the "smooth as butter" cliché. I didn' want to but somehow it just popped into my head. And I'm as relaxed as relaxed can get
I have noticed that o2x screen is not that sensitive. For example in "where is my water " it was difficult to draw lines as precise as on an iphone or gs2. Maybe my fingers are faulty
buluba89 said:
I have noticed that o2x screen is not that sensitive. For example in "where is my water " it was difficult to draw lines as precise as on an iphone or gs2. Maybe my fingers are faulty
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I agree. I now have a nexus s therefore i think that Samsung>LG.
From the moment I installed RC's ics cm9 I never had touchscreen issues again. On the contrary, now I find the screen too sensitive.
nuvo84 said:
From the moment I installed RC's ics cm9 I never had touchscreen issues again. On the contrary, now I find the screen too sensitive.
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Screen sensitivity has been fixed in the latest kangs.
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hisham027 said:
Screen sensitivity has been fixed in the latest kangs.
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I know.
That's funny... I'm still running stock 2.2 on my O2X and I had no trouble triple ducking all levels in where's my water... Now I'm cutting ropes
Hi, i personally dont think this is a problem with our touch screens, i have it happen to me when unlocking the phone etc, but i think its because we try to tap an icon to quickly before we give the phone chance to fully unlock, i've noticed if i wait just a second or 2 after unlocking it doesnt happen, i think its lack of ram in the o2x, it not quite fast enough for our speedy fingers, lol.
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wayneace8888 said:
Hi, i personally dont think this is a problem with our touch screens, i have it happen to me when unlocking the phone etc, but i think its because we try to tap an icon to quickly before we give the phone chance to fully unlock, i've noticed if i wait just a second or 2 after unlocking it doesnt happen, i think its lack of ram in the o2x, it not quite fast enough for our speedy fingers, lol.
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Also i forgot to mention, if i turn off all animations this also decreases the chance of this happening.
Touch Patch For Atrix V1
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Download fast or stable,and flash in cwm.
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Try this!
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Will test it now - Thanks!
Edit: Works fine on Nottatrix 1.3.1. Will test it further over the next few days, but it seems to improve sensitivity of the touch recognition (especially when the screen is a little grimy).
Gonna test this and see how it works I'm on jokers CM9
EDIT: seems to be working in some areas and others not, but it helps with the keyboard on jokers a little
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schwarzlichtkind said:
Will test it now - Thanks!
Edit: Works fine on Nottatrix 1.3.1. Will test it further over the next few days, but it seems to improve sensitivity of the touch recognition (especially when the screen is a little grimy).
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What version is you tested?
Not working on Neutrino? Why?
Formhault said:
Not working on Neutrino? Why?
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Sorry, I don't know
I will find it...
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Nvm sometimes on CM9 it doesn't take the touch the first time
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woorim98 said:
What version is you tested?
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Like I already wrote: 1.3.1
With the touch patch stable v1.
It makes the screen really snappy, but sometimes that's limiting. Without a very steady finger it's next to impossible to produce an absolute precise touch
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Seems to works fine on CM7 05-08 build (latest)
Hmm, original version is a rollback?
In case we want the stock thing again?
If it is, i ll try this mod!
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Does this mod genuinely make a difference or is it placebo effect?
And how does the fast one differ from the normal one in terms of touch sensitivity?
Lastly, does this mod work with CM9 and improve the dodgy touch sensitivity?
Sorry if this post sounds negative, I don't intend it that way. I've said it before, but AndroidON always makes really cool mods and this isn't an exception. So big props once again
Who said this didn't work with Neutrino? Mines working perfectly... but could it be because I installed the patch via ADB?
Anyways, my first impression is that scrolling certainly feels smoother and more 'iphone-y' - which is a good thing
It seems to act more sensitive also and swipes seem to register faster and more accurately. This really shows when you play 'Temple Run,' I actually died the first few rounds being so used to the original 'non-sensitive' touchscreen but after that, it certainly felt more snappy.
However, I did find a few niggles which are kinda hard to explain tbh. But strangely, after a reboot, it seemed to have fixed itself, which is odd but great nonetheless. I'm not fully convinced that these issues are fixed but I'll report back, but I'm sure it will be fixed in V2.
I also tried the fast version, but it was kinda weird. Especially the notification tray, it pulls down and pulls up really fast and it looks a bit weird. Also, touch responses also seemed slightly fishy. So I also recommend the stable one.
Look's like this mod may be cooked it V2.8 Neutrino - if the OP doesn't mind?
Notorious544d said:
Who said this didn't work with Neutrino? Mines working perfectly... but could it be because I installed the patch via ADB?
Anyways, my first impression is that scrolling certainly feels smoother and more 'iphone-y' - which is a good thing
It seems to act more sensitive also and swipes seem to register faster and more accurately. This really shows when you play 'Temple Run,' I actually died the first few rounds being so used to the original 'non-sensitive' touchscreen but after that, it certainly felt more snappy.
However, I did find a few niggles which are kinda hard to explain tbh. But strangely, after a reboot, it seemed to have fixed itself, which is odd but great nonetheless. I'm not fully convinced that these issues are fixed but I'll report back, but I'm sure it will be fixed in V2.
I also tried the fast version, but it was kinda weird. Especially the notification tray, it pulls down and pulls up really fast and it looks a bit weird. Also, touch responses also seemed slightly fishy. So I also recommend the stable one.
Look's like this mod may be cooked it V2.8 Neutrino - if the OP doesn't mind?
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Scrolling is definetly faster... but see my video on this. Tried it on your V2.8 EE beta... wiped cache/dalvik after flashing the stable version. I am NOT gonna try the fast one, lol.
There are some faults, especially when you hold your finger on something (also noticeable in the video I made).
Formhault said:
There are some faults, especially when you hold your finger on something (also noticeable in the video I made).
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Yep, that was the problem I also experienced but couldn't really explain. When you hold anything down, it spazzes up. Like try to select a a letter in a word and 'hold' your finger there, the arrow thingy will just keep 'shaking.'
If that makes sense...
That seems to be the only main issue really. I just tried the messaging app and WOW, typing is MUCH faster than before.
Formhault said:
Scrolling is definetly faster... but see my video on this. Tried it on your V2.8 EE beta... wiped cache/dalvik after flashing the stable version. I am NOT gonna try the fast one, lol.
There are some faults, especially when you hold your finger on something (also noticeable in the video I made).
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Same problem with cm9
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Notorious544d said:
That seems to be the only main issue really. I just tried the messaging app and WOW, typing is MUCH faster than before.
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You've got to be kidding. I tried to send a simple message, 4 words long... It took me 20 seconds...
It sure is faster, yeah... faster and full of mistakes...
So, I have CM7 latest nightly and I'm typing. Nothing wrong here. Didn't saw the video yet. Just reporting typing its good with this mod and SwiftKey....
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balintmaci said:
try multitouchvizualizer and hold down multiple fingers
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I just tried and worked perfectly... Didn't had that issues. Really. Maybe I can make a video to show...
I used 2 multitouch apps, btw...
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Any way to flash this on Neutrino ROM without ADB push?
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balintmaci said:
was that some nice drumstep you were listening to during the video?
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Emalkay - Flesh & Bone
balintmaci said:
i found that CTRL, BLEN, TCHTHR, TCHDI, MRGTIMEOUT, MOVFILTER(greatly), NOISETHR, GESTEN, PRESSPROC, DRAGTHR, NUMGEST, GESTEN, and VOLTAGE, had been changed.
anyone know what these are? and is voltage increase dangerous/why is it important?
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Perhaps the OP could shed some light on what those values are...
The point of increasing voltage... I guess that's how sensitivity works, right? More voltage = more sensitivity...?
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I made three more reboots. Plus, I played Dark Legends for about 20 minutes. Now, I made another reboot.
In Multitouch Visualiser, I don't see glitches anymore. Having two touch points on the same axis works very well. When a third/fourth/fifth touch point comes into play, things remain the same though - problematic.
Edit : NOPE. Nevermind that. It still is glitchy, even with two touch points... Just like in the video... So, nothing has improved.
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Obartuckc said:
Any way to flash this on Neutrino ROM without ADB push?
~Sent from my Unlocked, Rooted, Faux 1.45gHz Motorola Atrix 4G~
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I did it the old fashioned way : flash .zip via recovery (TWRP, in my case).