I want to prevent a few unused apps (that can't be removed ) from starting up and running, e.g. AT&T Navigator that I will not use. In Windows Mobile, I could go to the Startup menu folder or edit a registry setting.
How can this be done in Android 2.3.4? I found a reference to Titanium Backup, but I notced in the Market description, "Needs ROOT, for Android 1.5-23.+". Does this mean that I have to root the phone before I can use the program or stop programs from running on startup?
I don't really want to mess with rooting yet (see issues over in the Development forum). Is there some other way or program that I can stop unwanted programs from running?
Thanks
PS: This is a question, but when I flagged it as a question, the program stopped me and told me to use a Q&A forum.
You would Have to temp root the phone in order to get a program that can freeze the bloatware. Mind you Temp Root will disappear when you reboot the phone or let the battery drain all the way and you would have to go about getting the Temp Root again and Refreezing the apps. Once Perm Root and such is out doing this will be much much easier.
Check out the disable bloatware_1.0.2 bat file on this
post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341162&page=11
I have removed most of the bloat this way with the temp root. It's the only way I know to do it right now.
esloan said:
Check out the disable bloatware_1.0.2 bat file on this
post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341162&page=11
I have removed most of the bloat this way with the temp root. It's the only way I know to do it right now.
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Thanks for the responses. I may try the temp root, but not right now. I've read too many "Bricked" posts on the HD2 forum. Of course, Android rooting may be cleaner and safer.
In looking at my memory usage, with only one app of my choosing running, 529 MB of the 829 MB is being used. I just don't see any need to be running programs I won't use. Makes me kinda miss Windows Mobile 6.
After the disable bloatware fix I have 420 used out of the 829 so about 100Mb difference. Not much but it is something.
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After the disable bloatware fix I have 420 used out of the 829 so about 100Mb difference. Not much but it is something.
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Sense 3.0 is a ram hog. That said, free ram is wasted ram. It doesn't matter how much available you have.
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Pirateghost said:
Sense 3.0 is a ram hog. That said, free ram is wasted ram. It doesn't matter how much available you have.
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AMEN! If I have 4,8,12...gigs of ram, I want the OS to use as much as possible and manage it. It takes far less time to get info out of ram than any other storage medium in a computer/tab/phone.
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Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
no one is using any app. to stop unnecessary start up of tasks
try autostarts its very good
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Ditto on Autostarts. Also, Autokiller Memory Optimzer works really well, it doesn't kill tasks itself, it tweaks the Android function thar does it to work better.
auto killer mem optimizer workd well for me.but now i simply don use any of those batt saving app,mem apps etc i jus kill apps in inbuilt task killer...iam using my phone to the peek cause at the end ill b getting a 2ghz dual core by selling sgs.......cant stick to old things lol........cheeerz
tarunagg said:
Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
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... what?
Do any of you even understand how Android works?
so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
manosv said:
try autostarts its very good
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+1 Autostarts. It amazes me what runs on the phone after start-up, after you switch states or update apps. The perfect cure for batt draining nonsense
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so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
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Google it. Android is Linux based. Its memory management is not the same as Windows. I'd explain further, but you're the 4,753,857,195 person to ask.
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
Shanakin said:
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
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That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
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ww
webwude said:
That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
Kind regards,
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And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
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And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
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Well actually I don't see the point that an app, that I hardly use once per month should be loaded everytime I start the phone or change my internet connection. Also more apps at startup increase the time when the phone is available...
But on the other hand, you are certainly right, after a while, only the latest apps are still in background / memory. What I have recognized nevertheless: if you use a lot of apps with push functionality and load on startup, the phone runs out of memory...
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ww
Hi People
My GNote has 1GB of RAM and when i am not using it it still shows only 300 to 200 MB of RAM left, i am using ES task Manager, i have checked the running applications but nothing seems to eat all that RAM..
I do have games installed but i make sure to close them after finish playing them.
Secondly when i uninstall a Game, what happens to the data it downloaded to internet and if that data is not deleted by uninstalling how to delete it?
Thanks for you help
ram
humadoon said:
Hi People
My GNote has 1GB of RAM and when i am not using it it still shows only 300 to 200 MB of RAM left, i am using ES task Manager, i have checked the running applications but nothing seems to eat all that RAM..
I do have games installed but i make sure to close them after finish playing them.
Secondly when i uninstall a Game, what happens to the data it downloaded to internet and if that data is not deleted by uninstalling how to delete it?
Thanks for you help
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Wouldnt worry bout the ram, 300 is prob an average of what people have left after filling up with apps, also you should remember, lots of the stock apps are running and restarting most of the time which eats ram
I use Task killer pro, good way to set it on autokill and let it kill those unwanted apps that are running.
Another way is download a startup manager and audit what you want to run and not to run when your phone boots, you will need to be rooted to do that.
The phone has a built in task manager, long pressing the home button or look in ur apps, there is a task killer of sorts built in to free up mem, or u could root and install cassies extralight rom, that way you have a basic system with all the crap taken out.
When you uninstall an app, always be sure to click the cache clear and stop button before uninstalling but generally when it uninstalls it only leaves fragments behind, nothing major.
You still have 2 to 300 meg of ram, its nothing to worry about, most phones dont even have that left after installing apps so try not to worry, just be sure to clear ya memory every now and then.
Thanks i am little worried to root the device yet as i only had it for a month.
I installed games such as internal legacy and back stab but after uninstalling them still my phone had the data in the gameloft folder which i had to manually delete...
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humadoon said:
Thanks i am little worried to root the device yet as i only had it for a month.
I installed games such as internal legacy and back stab but after uninstalling them still my phone had the data in the gameloft folder which i had to manually delete...
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Dont worry bout rooting, just use the initial root flasher and the matching cfroot kernel found here in the same link, it gives full easy instruction and includes an root uninstaller in case you need to take it off, dont even need to use the cfroot if ya dont want too.
Rootings not that big a deal, easy to dispose of in case of return and the guides here on XDA are the best ones ya could use, its all solid stable advice.
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Dont worry bout rooting, just use the initial root flasher and the matching cfroot kernel found here in the same link, it gives full easy instruction and includes an root uninstaller in case you need to take it off, dont even need to use the cfroot if ya dont want too.
Rootings not that big a deal, easy to dispose of in case of return and the guides here on XDA are the best ones ya could use, its all solid stable advice.
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thanks mate you have been a great help ..bless you
just hit clear memory under ram in task manager to free from time to time.
Its pointless clearing your ram, your phone will run smoother if most of your most used apps are ready for loading in ram. If you clear you ram all the time, when you load Apps they have to load from storage instead which takes longer and takes more CPU usage.
Alexanderbooth said:
Its pointless clearing your ram, your phone will run smoother if most of your most used apps are ready for loading in ram. If you clear you ram all the time, when you load Apps they have to load from storage instead which takes longer and takes more CPU usage.
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good point, though some apps like the ones from stock doesn't let you uninstall them (eg. Social Hub, Samsung Apps)
Having a rooted device, you can use
Nitrality (free) or
Titanium Backup
to remove unwanted system applications.
You have to learn how to do a Nandroid backup first before you start uninstalling system apps. But.. if you really just stick to rooting and uninstalling KiesCrap etc. you'd still be fine.
once you install root then u can use titanium backup to remove all the unwanted apps
This Q is for active devs...
Can you guys do RAM to be like after installing V6 supercharger...
Supercharger is great but, it lag from time to time and it needs to be refreshed... So is it possible to modify stock android ram managment to be like supercharger...
(to tweak it actually, to modify minifrees like V6 SC??)
I think performance incrase will be massive that way! Better than some third party scripts.
If it's impossible than, allright.. but it's always good to ask, isn't it?
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...oh .. I apologize, I accidentally posted this in dev section instead of general.. so don't mind please!
ANSWER IS: #2 post
der_mart said:
Hey Dare-Devil,
this Supercharger script actually does exactly what you asked for:
it modifies the settings of the internal/stock android RAM management,nothing more and nothing less.
greetings
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Hey Dare-Devil,
this Supercharger script actually does exactly what you asked for:
it modifies the settings of the internal/stock android RAM management,nothing more and nothing less.
greetings
supercharger is good but , eat my batery !!
I like SC ..
Its better than ram mngr pro ..
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One more question..
Is this possible to achieve more multitasking like FROYO on Gingerbread Roms without the things like:--Swapping,supercharger etc.
1. Gingerbread roms are bug free and with extra features but I can run only 3-4 application at a time
e.g.- suppose that I am downloading some files(100-400MB) with opera/dolphin etc in background and suddenly I have to open root explorer and install some applications then during the installation of these applications opera/dolphin automatically kill by the android and downloading stops.
2. FROYO roms are with less features and some bugs like DSP, A&V Sync.
But one thing that is impressive is that I can run 8-9 applications simultaneously.
Take the same example....I can download files via opera/dolphin in parallel with installing apps via root explorer, playing music, market downloading, Emails etc.
I don't know why there is too much difference. I think this point should not be ignored.
Ram manager pro + swapper + sd class 4
That's all you need.
PD: Supercharger it's laggy and doesn't installs easily...
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One more question..
Is this possible to achieve more multitasking without the things like:--Swapping,supercharger etc.
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This is my point of the thread
KASHYAP9 said:
1. Gingerbread roms are bug free and with extra features but I can run only 3-4 application at a time
e.g.- suppose that I am downloading some files(100-400MB) with opera/dolphin etc in background and suddenly I have to open root explorer and install some applications then during the installation of these applications opera/dolphin automatically kill by the android and downloading stops.
2. FROYO roms are with less features and some bugs like DSP, A&V Sync.
But one thing that is impressive is that I can run 8-9 applications simultaneously.
Take the same example....I can download files via opera/dolphin in parallel with installing apps via root explorer, playing music, market downloading, Emails etc.
I don't know why there is too much difference. I think this point should not be ignored.
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And I were telling this ages ago...
Gingerbread requires more memory for the OS itself than Froyo. It's as simple as that.
This is why our devices are already out of spec and we have to use many, many hacks to make it run to an acceptable level.
If you want to fix that, you have to analyse where this RAM is consumed and rewrite the code of these components more efficiently. This is actually google's job though.
now i'm interested about this part
wait till i release new optimizer
i'm pretty busy lately
new version released
link : Here My Optimizer
Guys use ram manager app by juwe11.it really does its job.buy the full version and use hard multitasking setting.
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Auto Memory Manager. The idea behind it is simple, but dont restrict the RAM too much, it can **** up performance.
What swapper exactly does?
Please use Google uncle for this question u will get the answer.
As naa said we have to identify the ram eaters. And rewrite memory management segment for those modules. So the basic question is to identify the modules. For that we need a tool that will show the memory consumption.
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Good day!
Im new to xda-developers forum, just found a link in youtube while watching some stuff about galaxy note.
I have not discovered my galaxy note thoroughly yet coz its still new to me. Just wondering, the usage of memory without running any apps will go about 60%-70% percent. My temporary solution for this is to run task application and kill all exciting apps. Just wanna ask what kind of problem this may be?
No need to get alarmed by that. That's the way Android runs: it keeps apps in cache, so you can access them faster. When there's too much of them cached, the system kills off some apps.
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No need to get alarmed by that. That's the way Android runs: it keeps apps in cache, so you can access them faster. When there's too much of them cached, the system kills off some apps.
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thank you for your reply.
in this case, i cannot access on other apps that i'll run. just manually kill all the apps every-now-and-then.
Just remember: free memory is wasted memory. This is true for almost every piece of computing machinery out there.
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Just remember: free memory is wasted memory. This is true for almost every piece of computing machinery out there.
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Thank you.
the only thing is, when i access on other apps like games. loading on the apps takes longer or even it crashes. maybe its because of the memory allocation of the apps or just there is no enough memory space to allocate the app.
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Thank you.
the only thing is, when i access on other apps like games. loading on the apps takes longer or even it crashes. maybe its because of the memory allocation of the apps or just there is no enough memory space to allocate the app.
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While what the other member said is true, unused memory is wasted memory, but the issue is exactly that. Android ends apps that you may be running to be able to open more apps, which I find bad.
While it is normal to find the amount of ram you have said already loaded and being used, I still don't like it.
There are times that I'm trying to multitask and I open an app and right away jump back into the previous app to find that Android OS has decided to close it, within 3 seconds of hitting the home button. It makes multitasking a little harder. But there are ways around this .
But still, I hope ICS fixes this issue. I don't need 200 of the 1 gig of ram in use, what I would like is to have 300 or so free to be able to multitask normally.
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While what the other member said is true, unused memory is wasted memory, but the issue is exactly that. Android ends apps that you may be running to be able to open more apps, which I find bad.
While it is normal to find the amount of ram you have said already loaded and being used, I still don't like it.
There are times that I'm trying to multitask and I open an app and right away jump back into the previous app to find that Android OS has decided to close it, within 3 seconds of hitting the home button. It makes multitasking a little harder. But there are ways around this .
But still, I hope ICS fixes this issue. I don't need 200 of the 1 gig of ram in use, what I would like is to have 300 or so free to be able to multitask normally.
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Thats exactly my point. Thank you!
zkyevolved said:
There are times that I'm trying to multitask and I open an app and right away jump back into the previous app to find that Android OS has decided to close it, within 3 seconds of hitting the home button. It makes multitasking a little harder. But there are ways around this .
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can you please elaborate on the workarounds so that Android doesn't kill the background apps especially opera mobile
Hello fellow MI5 users,
I received my phone one week ago and I start having some issues with the RAM. In fact, at the start of the phone, it's already at 70% filled up which is too much for me. Indeed I use a lot of RAM and I'm that type of guy who let the apps running in background everytime because I keep opening them everytime. I was wondering if it was possible to have a link to a better ROM because I guess it's the problem and also a link for a tutorial on how to flash it I'm a newbie in this type of manipulation but I'm very interested so I hope you will help me guys. By the way, my MIUI version is the MIUI 8 Global 6.8.18. I honestly don't know what can i give as information but I'll answer ASAP at any questions
Have a good day
This is working as design - Android keeps apps in RAM to reduce I/O on resuming from background - faster & more energy efficient.
You can change the number of background processes via the development settings or you can kill apps on closing.
adwinp said:
This is working as design - Android keeps apps in RAM to reduce I/O on resuming from background - faster & more energy efficient.
You can change the number of background processes via the development settings or you can kill apps on closing.
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I've seen that indeed but it was set at standard so I'll probably put it at 3 I guess. How should I set the memory optimization? I've read it should be set off, altough I tried middle and I feel comfortable like that?
Is it normal to start at 70% without anything started ?
Unitae said:
I've seen that indeed but it was set at standard so I'll probably put it at 3 I guess. How should I set the memory optimization? I've read it should be set off, altough I tried middle and I feel comfortable like that?
Is it normal to start at 70% without anything started ?
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For the 3GB version? Pretty much. MIUI is horrible.
After booting I typically had 1.3GB / 3.0GB free but after a while this averaged to around 650MB free.
free ram is useless ram , which cant accelerate anything
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free ram is useless ram , which cant accelerate anything
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I know that but I need more because I use multi-task a lot. Is there a way to change the ROM so I have more space to work with? Even if the ROM itself is beautiful.
Indeed it's the 3gb version 32gb. It have lags sometimes and I think it's due to the full RAM. Can I have a link to a custom ROM which works fine on this device?
I'm a little confused, you want as much RAM available but you want as many processes in the background as well? That sounds contradicting to me. Memory optimization maps to ZRAM, if you set it off there will be no memory compression and thus even less processes will be kept in the background. If you set it high, you can have as many processes as possible, but there could be lag due to (de)compression time overhead.
Try different Rom
Try to use a different Rom. On the Stock Rom is a lot of bloatware which is using your RAM too.
First you need to get an Bootloader unlock permission and have to unlock the BL.
It could take up to 10 Days to get the permission from Xiaomi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/unlocking-xiaomi-mi-5-bootloader-t3336243
After that you have to flash a recovery like trwp via ADB. Google it for videos or threads how to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/recovery-twrp-xiaomi-mi-5-t3412123
After that you can flash a developer Rom.
I use the Resurrection Remix and it works fine. The CM 13 stucks in Bootloop. Maybe because I made a full wipe and had to sideload my rom.
Because you don't have a SD card option you have to have the room installed on your hard drive. But just follow the description below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/unofficial-resurrection-remix-m-5-6-9-t3395945
It took me just 1 day to get the unlock permit but don't try do do it without it. You brick your phone.
The RR Rom works really fine. Fingerprint and everything. It has no bloatware and you have to get the gaps like in the description. Arm64 nano seems enough.
Good luck and fun with a great phone.
Normally the android system kills the unused apps even in background. But i also experienced lack in multitasking.
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I'm a little confused, you want as much RAM available but you want as many processes in the background as well? That sounds contradicting to me. Memory optimization maps to ZRAM, if you set it off there will be no memory compression and thus even less processes will be kept in the background. If you set it high, you can have as many processes as possible, but there could be lag due to (de)compression time overhead.
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible apps in the background.
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible app in the background.
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Yup exactly
Try trwp 3.0.2.0 with 3.0.2.1 people experience bootloop
Omied said:
Try trwp 3.0.2.0 with 3.0.2.1 people experience bootloop
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In fact, I'm just doing some research before asking because I'm very new. I have found some videos but they are pretty old and not on this phone but I guess it works more or less the same way
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible apps in the background.
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OK, in that case, just open Security->Permissions->Autostart and disable those which aren't immediately needed upon start. I have 18 autostart items (mostly system monitoring & social media apps) and I usually start with 1.5 GB free RAM.