[Q] Updating X8 using PC Companion - XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

in Updating X8 using PC Companion, how long it is? is it in Hours? or in Minute?

for me, its takes 30-40 minutes. by using wifi at restourant

azha4flat said:
for me, its takes 30-40 minutes. by using wifi at restourant
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oh i see.. it depends on the internet connection.. btw, thanks..

for me it only takes 20 minutes
it depends to your internet speed

i got 30 mins
to finish
my internet is slow

I took 30 minutes

20 for me .. I use broadband: D

WOW you all installation under 1 hour, i was installing it need 3 hours

20 mins max. But honestly I never noticed how the time 'flies' when I experiment with X8

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Best Radio Rom for Battery life?

Anyone who's seen me in Rom threads probably knows that I usually ask the question about battery life, its like one of my obsessions... I want a phone that does a lot, but gets the most battery life too, probably not a winning combination, but it all helps!
I read on one thread that someone was using a radio version 1.10 and found it gave them better battery life then the new 1.13 with no loss of signal / gps.
Anyone got any thoughts?
1.13 radio
i just upgraded the radio in my hd to the new 1.13 from 1.09 and feel that the battery is a little better than before. i also currently running kwbr topix 1.0.1 wm6.1 rom. today will be the first full with that combo. i'll get back to you tomorrom on how the consumption is.
Have been using 1.13 since release and found no issues at all.
I am using Duttys 2.9 ROM and am getting 2.5 - 3 days of reasonably heavy use. Before i was getting 2 max before
Battery life sucks for me.....
2-3 days of battery life with heavy use.... i cannot even imagine getting that on my phone.
I dunno whats wrong with my phone .
I just updated to the new rom and radio from htc website.
Also, have disabled, wifi, data connections, active sync... all the stuff that take the juice out.
Also i am in NA, so also disabled 3g.
My setting are set manually for backlight and it is at the third point from the left.
I also have screen turn-off in 1min as well as switch off in 4 min.
In terms of program, i have pocket shield and incall touch lock program.
No after charging the battery to full.
This is wat i get,
Talk time- 30-45 min.
Music - 120 min. (S2P2 player)
Wifi - 10 min.
Now after almost 30 hrs.
battery is showing jst one bar.
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Am sure what usage i mentioned above is definitely cannot be termed as heavy.
Let me know, if someone can help me to improve my battery life.
shah1237 said:
2-3 days of battery life with heavy use.... i cannot even imagine getting that on my phone.
I dunno whats wrong with my phone .
I just updated to the new rom and radio from htc website.
Also, have disabled, wifi, data connections, active sync... all the stuff that take the juice out.
Also i am in NA, so also disabled 3g.
My setting are set manually for backlight and it is at the third point from the left.
I also have screen turn-off in 1min as well as switch off in 4 min.
In terms of program, i have pocket shield and incall touch lock program.
No after charging the battery to full.
This is wat i get,
Talk time- 30-45 min.
Music - 120 min. (S2P2 player)
Wifi - 10 min.
Now after almost 30 hrs.
battery is showing jst one bar.
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Am sure what usage i mentioned above is definitely cannot be termed as heavy.
Let me know, if someone can help me to improve my battery life.
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Try another rom or hardreset your phone
David Balfour said:
Have been using 1.13 since release and found no issues at all.
I am using Duttys 2.9 ROM and am getting 2.5 - 3 days of reasonably heavy use. Before i was getting 2 max before
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What do you class as heavy use?
Atze001 said:
Try another rom or hardreset your phone
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I'd do this too, its best to start with a rom, see battery life first without installing anything, then add bits one by one and you can usually eliminate the culprit!
Re: Barety life
What?
I have HTC Touch HD half year and batery never last more then 30 hrs with oficial ROM and clever use!
With my wifi on all the time... i never cross 24hrs
nicelad_uk said:
What do you class as heavy use?
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i use the music player for about 2 hour's a day and use the phone for about 1-2 hours and i am nearly always on the net with it as well.
edit: @drgopoos, WiFi eats battery like you wouldn't believe so no wonder you dont get more than 24hrs. I once had WiFi on and plugged the phone in to sync with my PC and the battery still went down. What happens if you dont use WiFi. Surely you dont need it 24/7?
I too am in the same boat, can't really stretch much past half a day with a bit of music, websurfing and the occasional email. No WiFi, only 3G. I've loaded a few apps (TomTom, CorePlayer and PHM Regedit) and don't have Exchange or anything active. Running Dutty V3.6 XT and radio 1.14.25.24.
Watch your power settings! My sat-nav program turned off the "turn off device after xxx mins" option in there. I could hardly reach 24 hours with one charge since the device never really turned off. This was really annoying e.g. when a reminder popped up at night, or when the phone was out of my reach.
After I realized that and set my option properly (screen 30 secs/power off after 1 min) my device lasts at least 2 days with normal use and even 3-4 days at light use.
I use radio 1.14.25.24 on Duttys 3.4 XT
David Balfour said:
am getting 2.5 - 3 days of reasonably heavy use.
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A-ha. I am getting 2 weeks with extremely heavy use.
Brightness is set to 100%, Wi-Fi and BT are always on. And I talk 24 hours a day also.
mine always have some strange consumption of power when I leave it through the night
before I go to bed it would be around 50% but when I wake up (5 hours later without running any programs of course) it drop to Battery very low
I'm using Radio 1.14, when I was on 1.13 I'm not experience that problem
I got the feeling that the newer radios use more battery. I've just downgraded to version 1.09.25.14, which I think was the original one that came with the phone. I will let you know my experience with that.
Dmitry N said:
A-ha. I am getting 2 weeks with extremely heavy use.
Brightness is set to 100%, Wi-Fi and BT are always on. And I talk 24 hours a day also.
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Do I detect a hint of sarcism LOL.
David Balfour said:
=I am using Duttys 2.9 ROM and am getting 2.5 - 3 days of reasonably heavy use. Before i was getting 2 max before
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Even with stock rom I would get no where near this, and I doubt anyone else would. I've used all Throys roms and yes it may be possible to get battery usage to maybe 2 - 2.5 days when left on standby but with heavy use!!! Extremely doubtful.......what do you classify as heavy use? Leaving it alone on standby locked in the cellar so no one can touch it!!
god, i'm happy when i make it through the day, meaning 12-16h without recharging, little to no music, hour or 2 msn, some net, normal call/sms, few weather updates....best i got was about 36h on Lost In Asia v5, generally Titanium seems to drain less then Manila :/
i could see getting 3 days if i buy 2 more batteries....or never unplug it from my laptop/socket :/
Dmitry N said:
A-ha. I am getting 2 weeks with extremely heavy use.
Brightness is set to 100%, Wi-Fi and BT are always on. And I talk 24 hours a day also.
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only two weeks ??? Your battery is probably broke !
Lil feedback with Lost in asia V5 and radio 1.14.25.24
around 36 h with heavy use
around 48 h with normal use
But i noticed that 4 things eat a lot my battey:
-when i check my mail and when the connection is bad ...
-when my HD is connected to my pc by usb
-when i'am in subway because sometimes it's edge,sometimes HSDPA etc...
- Wifi of course !
By the way, manila eat more battery than titanium...
shah1237 said:
2-3 days of battery life with heavy use.... i cannot even imagine getting that on my phone.
I dunno whats wrong with my phone .
I just updated to the new rom and radio from htc website.
Also, have disabled, wifi, data connections, active sync... all the stuff that take the juice out.
Also i am in NA, so also disabled 3g.
My setting are set manually for backlight and it is at the third point from the left.
I also have screen turn-off in 1min as well as switch off in 4 min.
In terms of program, i have pocket shield and incall touch lock program.
No after charging the battery to full.
This is wat i get,
Talk time- 30-45 min.
Music - 120 min. (S2P2 player)
Wifi - 10 min.
Now after almost 30 hrs.
battery is showing jst one bar.
==================================
Am sure what usage i mentioned above is definitely cannot be termed as heavy.
Let me know, if someone can help me to improve my battery life.
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never had these benefits...
perhaps you have a battery plus, or a special hd
I have suffered with battery life as well... Can never get past a day to be honest & I have tried almost every ROM from here including WM6.1 & 6.5. I use my phone mostly for music, little bit of gaming and web surfing. It is connected to net all the time though, because I have unlimited data plan. I normally leave home at 8:30 in the morning & till then the phone stays plugged in with the charger over night.
On the way to work and back I listen to music with normal 3.5mm headphone & sometimes play xtract or watch movie. The journey time is around 40 mins each way. I actively surf internet for around 15mins during break, not every day though. My emails get automatically downloaded after every 2 hours from 4 different providers. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.
By the time I get home at around 6 in the evening the battery level is generally at around 65% and I consider this as light use.
Is there any chance to improve it?! I don't wanna buy those huge batteries which shatters the sexyness of the device.

Insane download usage

Okay, I am using Dark Knight 5 (V5) since yesterday afternoon. I put the phone on the charger and took it of 5 hours later. I checked my battery usage 20 minutes later and noticed that "Gallery" was using a LOT of battery... 50% in 20 minutes and haven't used the phone since uncharged. Then I checked my data usage..WTF..700MB in 5 hours! As my plan is 1.5 GB and used already 400MB yesterday, this could have cost me a **** load.
Immediately switched over to WiFi, but how could this happen? Why would my phone, and it seems like "Gallery" specifically, download continuously, for no reason?
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Okay, I am using Dark Knight 5 (V5) since yesterday afternoon. I put the phone on the charger and took it of 5 hours later. I checked my battery usage 20 minutes later and noticed that "Gallery" was using a LOT of battery... 50% in 20 minutes and haven't used the phone since uncharged. Then I checked my data usage..WTF..700MB in 5 hours! As my plan is 1.5 GB and used already 400MB yesterday, this could have cost me a **** load.
Immediately switched over to WiFi, but how could this happen? Why would my phone, and it seems like "Gallery" specifically, download continuously, for no reason?
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your picasa web album sync must be on.. so your gallery would be syncing all your pics in picasa web album to your phone..
It is on, but I always had it on and never noticed such an increase in data usage. I have got about 10 folders, 40 photos each. With syncing the phone shouldn't actually download each photo, it should start when I click on a folder
sanderopovic said:
It is on, but I always had it on and never noticed such an increase in data usage. I have got about 10 folders, 40 photos each. With syncing the phone shouldn't actually download each photo, it should start when I click on a folder
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Well this is the only thing that I can think of for gallery data usage.. you can check by turning of data and wifi whether your pics have been downloaded or not..
Switched both off and checked folders in Gallery, still had to download them. Prob some kind of bug of Dark Knight 5

[Q] PC Companion Backup

Guys,
I finally got round to installing PC Companion and decided to launch the Backup Wizard.
However for the past 30 minutes its been sat at item 2 Preparation doing nothing further.
Question being ~ Just how long does it take to 'roughly' finish item 2 Preparation then move on to item 3 Backup?
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Well, it finally moved on to item 3 Backup and now I have another issue..... time being taken.
At first it said it would tak 3hrs 10mins. That quickly changed to 3hrs 30mins then 4hrs 10mins and so on and so on.....
Currently its now at 7hrs 40mins in still climbing.
Granted it is backing up 14GB of data but it shouldn't take this long surely not....
Had I known I would have backed it up manually.
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Well, that was confusing....
One minute its saying there is 8hrs 20mins to go before backup complete. Half an hour later I look at the screen and its saying 5mins left to go.
All done but not as fluid as I would have hoped.
I'll leave these comments in case anyone else comes across a similar situation.
Beards said:
Guys,
I finally got round to installing PC Companion and decided to launch the Backup Wizard.
However for the past 30 minutes its been sat at item 2 Preparation doing nothing further.
Question being ~ Just how long does it take to 'roughly' finish item 2 Preparation then move on to item 3 Backup?
Edited:
Well, it finally moved on to item 3 Backup and now I have another issue..... time being taken.
At first it said it would tak 3hrs 10mins. That quickly changed to 3hrs 30mins then 4hrs 10mins and so on and so on.....
Currently its now at 7hrs 40mins in still climbing.
Granted it is backing up 14GB of data but it shouldn't take this long surely not....
Had I known I would have backed it up manually.
Edited 2:
Well, that was confusing....
One minute its saying there is 8hrs 20mins to go before backup complete. Half an hour later I look at the screen and its saying 5mins left to go.
All done but not as fluid as I would have hoped.
I'll leave these comments in case anyone else comes across a similar situation.
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I had the same problem! i thought it was me, the time it takes between stages are extremely slow
citykiid said:
I had the same problem! i thought it was me, the time it takes between stages are extremely slow
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Pleased as punch you found the post of use.
Here's a a Thank You for for taking the effort and delving deep into finding your answer. :good:
Same problem
2014 and I'm having the exact same problem. It says there's 19 hours to go... I have to leave the house in 1,5 hours, and I've tried backing up before, but cancelled because it never finished. How long is this gonna take? Copying 19 gb cannot possible take this long! The blue line is almost at the end, but seems to have stopped there.... do i need to leave it backing up overnight? This is 2014, man! I did overnight stuff in 1998!
same problem
i do face longtime backup with PCC. But while nearing finishing session PCC says Runtime error n closes or PCC doesnt respond which results in incomplete backup :crying:
I hope someone could help me with another software which help to take full backup. moreover this is my first post

new Z1 phone and battery issue

Last week.I bought new Z1 phone after I heard all the good things about him and we'll I am enjoy from phone the only problem is the battery.
I got the phone with the 4.4.2 update whitin him and I have battery issues. Not sure if because of the update or the phone itself...if I'm not touching the phone and the screen is off it can be pass 10 hours and only 2-3% and even less will be down but when I play with the like whatsapp or Facebook and even just using the browser the battery lost 1-3% in just 5 minutes...is that normal? It's because the update or battery itself problem?
Thanks for helping and sorry for my bad english
On Z1 section there is 100 threads explaining how the battery work on Z1. Why do not search carefully and read before open another thread about a problem which do not even exist. And No, you did not search well, even if you said you did.
The main reason of the battery consumption is the screen, you cannot determinate the life of the battery after only 5 minutes. You have to make 4 or 5 complete cycles from 100% to 5% and charge again to full to let the Android set up properly with Stamina and Low option enabled. The screen eat battery drastically, yes, but with a normal use you can reach 3 hours with screen on and 20 hours in all day, which look to me wery good as you will charge it overnight. If you use less screen and few calls you will get even 2 days of battery.
It's all normal.
BTW, KK have some issues but you cannot say it now that it have it.
Stupid calculation: 100% : 3% = 33, 33 x 5 = 165, 165 : 60 = 2.75 > DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEAN??
It's mean that you get almost 3 hours on screen if we calculate you consume 3% of battery in 5 minutes.
eclyptos said:
On Z1 section there is 100 threads explaining how the battery work on Z1. Why do not search carefully and read before open another thread about a problem which do not even exist. And No, you did not search well, even if you said you did.
The main reason of the battery consumption is the screen, you cannot determinate the life of the battery after only 5 minutes. You have to make 4 or 5 complete cycles from 100% to 5% and charge again to full to let the Android set up properly with Stamina and Low option enabled. The screen eat battery drastically, yes, but with a normal use you can reach 3 hours with screen on and 20 hours in all day, which look to me wery good as you will charge it overnight. If you use less screen and few calls you will get even 2 days of battery.
It's all normal.
BTW, KK have some issues but you cannot say it now that it have it.
Stupid calculation: 100% : 3% = 33, 33 x 5 = 165, 165 : 60 = 2.75 > DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEAN??
It's mean that you get almost 3 hours on screen if we calculate you consume 3% of battery in 5 minutes.
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My friend have this phone too so I play with her phone one evening and I saw that she have 89% I ask her when she full charge her phone last time and she said in the morning and she mentioned that she use screen time alot today and that she surprise from it. And the next day when I checked her phone around 14:00 she had 54% and she didn't charge it..so how you.explain this?
Different usage patterns, minor internal differences in hardware, different software installed, different firmware, and so on...
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Well it is bother me cuz I'm in alot of travel and I don't always have a place to charge my phone so battery is important to me...also why I choose this phone..Im doing this recycle thing now and lowered the brightness of the display I wanna see what's going to happen. Hope.the battery will improve cuz 3% of just reading articels on the chrome in 5 minutes doesn't fine to me.. Also the phone heating up fast.. Any more tips to bring to battery to its maximum?
killen0011 said:
Well it is bother me cuz I'm in alot of travel and I don't always have a place to charge my phone so battery is important to me...also why I choose this phone..Im doing this recycle thing now and lowered the brightness of the display I wanna see what's going to happen. Hope.the battery will improve cuz 3% of just reading articels on the chrome in 5 minutes doesn't fine to me.. Also the phone heating up fast.. Any more tips to bring to battery to its maximum?
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There are many things. KK have this protection to do not have permission to write to SD, many application still try to do it so you should fix it. How? By rooting your phone and installing a patch, which also you can find on XDA, therer is also a kitkat fix sd app on play store.
Try to disable all the unwanted application working in backgroud. If you don't use them then close them, some of them run and eat battery.
Install Battery Guru Snapdragon, it will not impress but it can give you a help, it's also developed for your Hardware.
...what else? many things.....like hit the thanx button!!
There's no such thing as a stupid question except the one then gets left unasked. Please be nice guys a discussion about android should not become personal and I won't be giving any more warning regarding such.
But to throw my 2 cents into the discussion, as mentioned there are many factors and reasons why your battery does not last like on your friend device. Different apps running, how you charge your device, how often you use it, ect ect. Even though you have the same device no chip is identical just like no human is.
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There's no such thing as a stupid question except the one then gets left unasked. Please be nice guys a discussion about android should not become personal and I won't be giving any more warning regarding such.
But to throw my 2 cents into the discussion, as mentioned there are many factors and reasons why your battery does not last like on your friend device. Different apps running, how you charge your device, how often you use it, ect ect. Even though you have the same device no chip is identical just like no human is.
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Thank you for the answers I just wanna be sure that I.didn't bought a phone with ****ed up battery..is there a a way to know if the battery is ok? Like to see if it doesn't have a problem or something
I have almost same condition phone as you, my phone battery drains and it heats up, and it annoys me Well, for me your phone is normal, i can have about 4 hours screen on time with stamina mode/low battery off, no auto sync, no auto brightness, sometimes i also lose about 3% in 5 minutes, sometimes don't, sometimes it just stays on 80% for so long, then back to normal again once it drops to 1%. Sometimes i lose about 5% in one night with mobile network off.
Just as @eclyptos said, you need to cycle your battery so that stamina mode can learn how you use your phone, but the reason i stop using it is because sometimes it disconnects my mobile network by itself though i blacklisted some apps, I chat alot, so i need my mobile network always on.
Enjoy your new Z1
Riaes said:
I have almost same condition phone as you, my phone battery drains and it heats up, and it annoys me Well, for me your phone is normal, i can have about 4 hours screen on time with stamina mode/low battery off, no auto sync, no auto brightness, sometimes i also lose about 3% in 5 minutes, sometimes don't, sometimes it just stays on 80% for so long, then back to normal again once it drops to 1%. Sometimes i lose about 5% in one night with mobile network off.
Just as @eclyptos said, you need to cycle your battery so that stamina mode can learn how you use your phone, but the reason i stop using it is because sometimes it disconnects my mobile network by itself though i blacklisted some apps, I chat alot, so i need my mobile network always on.
Enjoy your new Z1
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Exactly what happening to me! Same thing! You didn't try to cycle the battery?
killen0011 said:
Exactly what happening to me! Same thing! You didn't try to cycle the battery?
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Yes, actually I did, but i don't really from 5% to 100%, sometimes I just charge alittle, charging takes so long . But I don't think 4 hours SOT is bad without stamina mode.
Riaes said:
Yes, actually I did, but i don't really from 5% to 100%, sometimes I just charge alittle, charging takes so long . But I don't think 4 hours SOT is bad without stamina mode.
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Right now with stamina on every about 3 minutes 1% is down and I'm only using browser..and I'm after 3 cycles..
killen0011 said:
Right now with stamina on every about 3 minutes 1% is down and I'm only using browser..and I'm after 3 cycles..
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Z1 has a powerfull battery but is a powerfull phone, i use wifi + 4g enabled ALL DAY with Facebook, Whatsapp, Email, Linkedin, Instagram, Spotify, all kinds of social apps enabled. I wake up and unplug my phone from charge with 100%, at night, 22h, i have 18% sometimes less, but for me is not a problem charge the phone every night, because i have a Smartphone and i have to use it like one, if i want a durable battery i will buy a Nokia 5210, if i have a phone to let 4g, wifi and all social apps disabled i dont need a smartphone.
But this is just my opinion, for me using the phone with everything enable and charge it only once a day its perfect.
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Z1 has a powerfull battery but is a powerfull phone, i use wifi + 4g enabled ALL DAY with Facebook, Whatsapp, Email, Linkedin, Instagram, Spotify, all kinds of social apps enabled. I wake up and unplug my phone from charge with 100%, at night, 22h, i have 18% sometimes less, but for me is not a problem charge the phone every night, because i have a Smartphone and i have to use it like one, if i want a durable battery i will buy a Nokia 5210, if i have a phone to let 4g, wifi and all social apps disabled i dont need a smartphone.
But this is just my opinion, for me using the phone with everything enable and charge it only once a day its perfect.
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Well after 1 hour and 37 minutes with stamina mod in screen time I lost 35% of the battery...doesn't know what to think anymore...
killen0011 said:
Well after 1 hour and 37 minutes I lost 35% of the battery...doesn't know what to think anymore...
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Your case is an extreme case, double check if there is an app consuming battery abnormally, if you are in places that has no much signal you will lose a lot of battery. In last case you will have to format your phone with pc companion. Installing a Rom from 0 can solve a lot of problems.
ghostman2 said:
Your case is an extreme case, double check if there is an app consuming battery abnormally, if you are in places that has no much signal you will lose a lot of battery. In last case you will have to format your phone with pc companion. Installing a Rom from 0 can solve a lot of problems.
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I checked in the battery usage and only the screen takes 59 of the battery...the rest it's like 3 or 2 no more than this..I'll try to format everything and if it's not works and still I got this draining I will go to the store and tell them to give me new phone( I bought it last week)

[POLL] Your Galaxy Note 4 Uptime

Hi,
As I almost didn't have to reboot my Note for a while I'm wondering what is the average uptime of everybody's Note 4.
You can check the uptime in hours here: Settings -> About device -> Status -> Up time.
Answers:
less than 1 week (168 hours)
more than 1 week (168 hours)
more than 2 weeks (336 hours)
more than 1 month (732 hours)
more than 2 months (1464 hours)
more than 3 months (2196 hours)
I treat my phone like a pc and reboot it every 2-3 days to clean memory occupied by leftovers of closed apps.
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I reboot once a week.
I treat Note 4 as pretty stable device. I almost don't need to restart it.
I'm getting longest uptime with Note 4 since... Symbian
I had to restart Nexus few times a week.
I restart whenever I load new Xposed framework modules, or said modules get updated and need the phone to reboot.
Considering how quickly my device reboots (less than 30 seconds roughly), I could care less about "uptime."
What I care about is during the time that the device is up and online is if said device is stable and handles all of its functions properly and efficiently.
Its a pocket computer with always on internet, gps, bluetooth, camera etc. Oh and it makes phone calls also. If it does those things without crashing or locking up, then does the occasional reboot to handle system or app updates really matter in the long run? I don't think it does.
Currently I own a second battery with it's charger pack and cause I use the **** out of this phone I swap the battery 3-4 times a day. So I have an uptime of 8 hours at average
Mine is 166 because I replaced a Sim Card.
734 hours (30.5 days)! That's a world record for me of the Android Phone.
I think mine will last till Lollipop update. It might still take a month.
Really impressed. Because I had either to restart every few days because of the lag or 0% battery all my previous Android phones.
Whenever I remember it, usually 2 weeks
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