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[Q] Do I really need a custom ROM?

So what I have done to date on my Captivate.
1. Updated to latest Froyo 2.2 using Kies
2. Loaded .NET and etc
3. Rooted using SuperOneClick. Thanks ShortFuse
4. Titanium Backup. Thanks Joel
5. Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine. Thanks Android Central
6. Captivate Toolbox. Thanks Bay_wolf
7. Installed wireless tether 2.0.7 Thanks harald.mue, ulfada
8 Pimped my Captivate- Thanks systoxity, nbs11, and other XDA developers.
Now I'm to the point to ROM or not to ROM. Everything is working great. Further I am hesitant about the possibility of bricking my phone. Should I go for it? What ROM to use? What program to get ROM on phone?
Many thanks in advance.

majsig said:
So what I have done to date on my Captivate.
1. Updated to latest Froyo 2.2 using Kies
2. Loaded .NET and etc
3. Rooted using SuperOneClick. Thanks ShortFuse
4. Titanium Backup. Thanks Joel
5. Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine. Thanks Android Central
6. Captivate Toolbox. Thanks Bay_wolf
7. Installed wireless tether 2.0.7 Thanks harald.mue, ulfada
8 Pimped my Captivate- Thanks systoxity, nbs11, and other XDA developers.
Now I'm to the point to ROM or not to ROM. Everything is working great. Further I am hesitant about the possibility of bricking my phone. Should I go for it? What ROM to use? What program to get ROM on phone?
Many thanks in advance.
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This isn't development...

majsig said:
So what I have done to date on my Captivate.
1. Updated to latest Froyo 2.2 using Kies
2. Loaded .NET and etc
3. Rooted using SuperOneClick. Thanks ShortFuse
4. Titanium Backup. Thanks Joel
5. Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine. Thanks Android Central
6. Captivate Toolbox. Thanks Bay_wolf
7. Installed wireless tether 2.0.7 Thanks harald.mue, ulfada
8 Pimped my Captivate- Thanks systoxity, nbs11, and other XDA developers.
Now I'm to the point to ROM or not to ROM. Everything is working great. Further I am hesitant about the possibility of bricking my phone. Should I go for it? What ROM to use? What program to get ROM on phone?
Many thanks in advance.
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It really just comes down to if you like your Captivate the way it is. If you aren't happy with the performance you get from it then try a few out. I recommend Cognition for a stock like experience and Serendipity for the most stable and kept up to date ROM.

This really doesn't belong in this section. It should have been posted in the General or the Q&A sections.
Well what you have done in all those steps, other then Titbu is actually done in one step by flashing a rom.
If you pay attention to the steps your risk of bricking is minimal. Just read all the rom threads and see which one floats your boat. Cognition 4.1.1 is a very stable rom. Firefly is another stable rom. You might like Fusion also as that and Cog are based off the curren kcb1 release from att.
You will need odin 1 click to return to stock. You will have to download Rom Manager and install Clockwork recovery. That puts an update.zip on your phone that boots you into recovery mode so you can flash a rom. Once you put clockwork on the phone its best to copy the udate.zip to your comp or to an ext sd card so you can just move it over after you flash back to stock when you updated roms.
First and foremost is read as much as you can before doing anything.

Thanks for the brief input. It was not my intent to post in the wrong forum. I'll repost in the Q/A.

Pm a mod and have them move it instead of double posting.

sparker366 said:
Well what you have done in all those steps, other then Tibu is actually done in one step by flashing a rom.
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The answer is Yes.

like they said above you could have done by flashing but you would still need root and rom manager first which if you already have 2.2 means flashing a kernel via .tar which used to mean odin but now we have neldars app. so it's not really one step, even on 2.1 noone is doing signed .zips that run in 2e recovery so you still need to root and install cwmrecovery.
basically roms have some nice features like getting rid of tw mms which many versions of have bugs and timing errors that can cause double messages or incorrect order of messages or in some cases messages to the wrong contact, if you dont have that issue now flashing a rom with tw mms may cause it or it may not. aosp mms is safer but only works with samsung lockscreens on some roms, watch for that if you like the puzzle piece functionality. but there may be many enhancements like removed bloat(unless you like the samsung bloatware) minfree tweeks, mobile ap which may be more stable than using an app for wifi hotspot, plus random shortcuts ect.ect. many of these things you can do but some are features of the base rom and require flashing, 2.2.1 baseroms are smoth as butter, especially the ones from china and 2.2.1 kernels will make the phone benchmark better.
then there is kernels which you can flash now without the rom, kernels can make the phone feel smoother and the screen brighter and better colors and add volume to the headphone amp which i dont recommend because mine clips at anything above the stock setting. also there is undervolt and overclock ect... i would recomend maybe a speedmod kernel or glitterballs work, some galaxy s phones can not exceed 1.2 ghz i dont know of anyone that cant overclock but for me 1.2 is 100% stable 1.28 is 90% stable 1.3 is about the same maybe a bit more stable and 1.4 is about 30% stable i can do it but need to be really carefull about what's running and for how long, not really usable. kernels other than glitterballs mat cause your phone to die while charging but i here the sucker punch kernel has a lower occurrence of that than past kernels. speed mod is not overclock and is safe and makes a big difference!
then there is modem.bins and gps. the two are related. if you have good gps now flashing a modem.bin can make that go away and vise/versa there isn't any rules as to what works/doesn't because every phone is different. but other than gps you need to match a captivate rom to a captivate modem. this is because on north american captivate roms changing the modem and kernel to a non captivate version will disable bluetooth calling.
then there is hsupa, it's a bit over rated in a good service area, my isp gives me about the upload bandwith at home that i get without hsupa, my home internet is fine for browsing but im not hosting any files. on the otherhand it may help in lower service areas somewhat or if you tether multiple devices. to enable huspa you need a non north american captivate rom and kernel and modem.bin, you need to decide if that is important and at a slight risk of losing some gps performance as it is so inconsistent it is hard to tell what may or may not work for you.

Moved to Q&A as not android development

I love di11igaffs roms and espyel roms they are better than stock froyo hands down id flash u wont be sorry
sent from cappy with di11i rom

[Q] Kernel, Rom, Firmware. Some noob questions

Hi there! I'm new to the forum and to android as well.
As you can guess I'm a proud owner of SGS
Since my SGS sucks a bit (random crashes, reboot, RFS) I'm interested in taking the maximum out of it, and I have some questions.
What is the difference between kernel and a rom? As far as I know from Linux and OS theory, kernel is the layer between the user (applications) and the hardware. I also know that most of the ROMs have kernel in them. Then what else the ROM contains?
What is firmware? Is it used a synonym for kernel/rom?
Is it worth installing custom kernel/rom on SGS? I'm a bit paranoid in those things and have some fears about the issue.
Is there a way to install some good kernel (like speedmod) and naked ROM (not someones mod, i.e. a stock android ROM without any additions from third party developers)? Is it hard to make my own ROM based on stock ROM (without touching the kernel, even tough I looked at the code and read books about the linux kernel, I dont yet consider my self a guru to be able to make my own kernel for android), just the modification and custom applications?
Thanks a lot guys!

Everyone has a kernel - even if you don't mod your phone at all. It wouldn't work without one!
Now, if you flash a ROM, you change the whole system including the kernel. If you flash a kernel, you're only changing the core piece of your system.
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A rom is a full firmware .
A kernel is the bit at the base level between processors and OS .Or just as you said .
Is it worth installing custom kernel/rom on SGS? I'm a bit paranoid in those things and have some fears about the issue.
YES but its at your risk though SGS is relatively un brick able .
Simplest upgrade would be via Rom Kitchen and build your own rom .
Choose base rom kernel modem and CSC to suit plus themes and apps .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817703
jje

The kernel in android is essentially just a customized Linux kernel. The ROM is basically the application layer and the framework. Usually ROMs include kernels, but you can flash a different compatible kernel.
Firmware usually refers to either all the basic software on your phone (minus the apps) or the ROM, csc and modem.
You can definetly flash a custom kernel onto a stock ROM, which will improve performance a great deal even without a custom ROM. Find instructions aplenty here on XDA.
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Thanks for the replies guys!
YES but its at your risk though SGS is relatively un brick able .
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By un brick able you mean that its hard to brick it, or if I brick it its hard to un brick (fix) it then?
Also I'm having a hard understanding, if kernel is the thing that manages the hardware and also responsible for lagfix then kernel is really what matters for the performance of the phone. How a ROM could improve phones performance?
Also one more questions:
As I understand CSC and modem are connectivity related files (3G internet, APNS etc) right? So its better not to touch them when flashing custom ROM/kernel?
Thanks a lot again!

JJEgan means it's really hard to get to brick your SGS.
The kernel is responsible for the proper functionality and cooperation between hardware parts. As for SGS, it is a common belief that Samsung's RFS is not as robust or "agile" as ext4 FS. Thus, converting RFS to ext4 should increase device's performance (the time needed for the read/write operations to take place is decreased). BUT, in order for the device to function properly, the kernel MUST support ext4 as a file system format otherwise it won't work anymore (This could happen after installing a stock kernel on a device that uses some filesystem apart from rfs). Samsung's stock kernel does not, so you have to replace it, if that's the case.
(E.g. If you format a USB drive under Windows 7 with "exFAT" as its filesystem, you won't be able to access it through Windows XP for example, because XP does not support "exFAT" - Different kernels & Different OS version ).
Yes, CSC and modem.bin are what makes your device a TELEPHONE, too Connectivity issues between your operator and your handset depend on those files. If you can find the latest COMPATIBLE modem file, then go for it.

Thanks for the explanation!
As for CSC and modem, by compatible you mean the same version (XXJPY for example)? How do I know they are compatible with my phone?
Thanks a lot again!

the CSC doesnt have to match the baseband. for exapmle, you can have XXJPY baseband and XXJQ1 modem. (thats what i used to run)
its all about finding the right modem for your region, you want to make sure you get good connections dont ya ? modems affect SMS, Calls, Data, WIFI, so on.....
so you want the right one. If you go to rom kitchen, you can see all the modems and what region they cover

Thanks!
But is there a way not to touch the CSC/modem when flashing custom kernel/ROM? I'm really afraid to mess with those.
Also could someone refer to this question:
Also I'm having a hard understanding, if kernel is the thing that manages the hardware and also responsible for lagfix then kernel is really what matters for the performance of the phone. How a ROM could improve phones performance?
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Thanks a lot again, and sorry for a bunch of questions!

So is the pda is the kernel then if you are flasing pda/modem/csc?

Yes, PDA is a kernel

skwo said:
Thanks!
But is there a way not to touch the CSC/modem when flashing custom kernel/ROM? I'm really afraid to mess with those.
Also could someone refer to this question:
Thanks a lot again, and sorry for a bunch of questions!
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Think of the kernel as the drivers and the ROM as the OS. If your drivers are from 1987, windows 7 wont run well, if at all. However, you can have the newest 2011 drivers installed on Windows 95....same thing. Kernel and ROM must be well suited and work together for a good experience.
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X-GoD said:
So is the pda is the kernel then if you are flasing pda/modem/csc?
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Actually if you are flashing a three file firmware with odin, PDA is the ROM, which in this case usually includes a kernel.
If you are flashing a kernel alone onto an already installed ROM, then the kernel is put in the PDA field.
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Gingerbread needs a different kernel than Froyo, right?

every firmwarerelease (JVQ, JVP, JVR, JVS, etc..) has its own kernel version.
but with talondev im not sure, cuz there is no distinction between the kernel versions.
with all other custom kernel releases you have specific kernel versions.

yep 10 charrrrr

Terranigmus said:
Gingerbread needs a different kernel than Froyo, right?
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Yes, be sure to read the kernel's thread to check the version it is made for.
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thehackman said:
every firmwarerelease (JVQ, JVP, JVR, JVS, etc..) has its own kernel version.
but with talondev im not sure, cuz there is no distinction between the kernel versions.
with all other custom kernel releases you have specific kernel versions.
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Actually most custom kernels can work with any firmware build for the same version, froyo or gb. Some devs may base a kernel on a specific firmware, but they usually work on all.
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I found the following link that briefs the options that you are looking for. I know this is an old post but thought posting here would help others as well.
donandroid.com/understanding-odin-a-beginners-guide-on-odin-buttons-checkboxes-629
Thanks,
Uresh
skwo said:
Hi there! I'm new to the forum and to android as well.
As you can guess I'm a proud owner of SGS
Since my SGS sucks a bit (random crashes, reboot, RFS) I'm interested in taking the maximum out of it, and I have some questions.
What is the difference between kernel and a rom? As far as I know from Linux and OS theory, kernel is the layer between the user (applications) and the hardware. I also know that most of the ROMs have kernel in them. Then what else the ROM contains?
What is firmware? Is it used a synonym for kernel/rom?
Is it worth installing custom kernel/rom on SGS? I'm a bit paranoid in those things and have some fears about the issue.
Is there a way to install some good kernel (like speedmod) and naked ROM (not someones mod, i.e. a stock android ROM without any additions from third party developers)? Is it hard to make my own ROM based on stock ROM (without touching the kernel, even tough I looked at the code and read books about the linux kernel, I dont yet consider my self a guru to be able to make my own kernel for android), just the modification and custom applications?
Thanks a lot guys!
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uresh.kuruhuri said:
I found the following link that briefs the options that you are looking for. I know this is an old post but thought posting here would help others as well.
donandroid.com/understanding-odin-a-beginners-guide-on-odin-buttons-checkboxes-629
Thanks,
Uresh
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thats quite old link u brought up here..........
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[Q] is there a gingerbread that works well with bell?

I'm looking for a gingerbread install for a bell I9000-m basically just need to make sure that the swype keyboard is fairly decent or similar to the bell one and whichever replacement is found here.
Im guessing I'll need a link to a stock modem driver but I've never done this before with much success besides just kindof bumbeling through a bit.
Let me know anything that could help in my quest here.
I would like to find some links to a good set of files for this update. I've read at many places that for bell you must ask for specific files for this task as it must be more complicated for the bell setup for some reason.
Even a Nexus S firmware if port-able to this device would be fine.

chamunks said:
I'm looking for a gingerbread install for a bell I9000-m basically just need to make sure that the swype keyboard is fairly decent or similar to the bell one and whichever replacement is found here.
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Any firmware for the i9000 works on the i9000m. There are plenty of threads in the development section with gb roms. Just download the KC1 modem for either Odin or CWM and flash that - I won't get into details, there are a bazillion threads discussing how to do this properly on the i9000m
chamunks said:
Let me know anything that could help in my quest here.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=656&nojs=1#goto_forumsearch
chamunks said:
I would like to find some links to a good set of files for this update. I've read at many places that for bell you must ask for specific files for this task as it must be more complicated for the bell setup for some reason.
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You need to stop reading whatever forums you're reading, and stick to this one. There are no specific files, and it is no more complicated than any other i9000.
chamunks said:
Even a Nexus S firmware if port-able to this device would be fine.
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Then use Cyanogenmod. Again, all of these are in the development subforum.

You mention Cyanogenmod but wouldnt that be froyo?
I didnt really mean just link me to the specific forum subgroup I was hoping for some more specific direction I realize my question wasn't that clear i suppose. Anyways I've basically just had trouble changing the firmware on this device before and I really dont want to end up bricking it with a bad firmware flash.
Basically a good starting point example link would be fantastic I will do some more research and if i manage to do this myself I will post my findings just to close the thread.

Flash JVH and then flash KC1 modem, done.

I also dont want to install a beta gingerbread release if at all avoidable and mostly a vanilla or highly reccomended third party custom would be fine too.

JVH is official release in parts of Europe. I'm with Bell, running JVH with KC1 modem since its release and absolutely no issues.

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You mention Cyanogenmod but wouldnt that be froyo?
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No, CM7 is 2.3.4 which is Gingerbread. Cyanogenmod 6 (which was froyo afaik) never really came to be on the i9000.
chamunks said:
I didnt really mean just link me to the specific forum subgroup I was hoping for some more specific direction I realize my question wasn't that clear i suppose. Anyways I've basically just had trouble changing the firmware on this device before and I really dont want to end up bricking it with a bad firmware flash.
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There isn't really anything specific for the i9000m. Really, its just a matter of picking a rom and following the flashing instructions. If you're flashing a stock release (like JVH lets say), use Odin, flash the tarball with update bootloader checked and once thats done, flash an appropriate modem for Bell (for 850mhz), like KC1 that I find works very well.
If you're flashing a cooked rom, like those in the development subforum, then you'd flash something like JVH, flash an appropriate kernel with clockworkmod (I prefer speedmod, but there are others), then you'd install the cooked rom through cwm recovery.
chamunks said:
Basically a good starting point example link would be fantastic I will do some more research and if i manage to do this myself I will post my findings just to close the thread.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011901
That thread should have all the information you need on flashing JVH along with screenshots and links to the roms.
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I also dont want to install a beta gingerbread release if at all avoidable and mostly a vanilla or highly reccomended third party custom would be fine too.
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As others have said, JVH is an official release for a lot of European carriers. It will work fine on the i9000m. I was running JVH + KC1 Modem for a while before switching to the latest Cyanogenmod nightly (which works absolutely fantastic now).
If you're looking for an official Bell Gingerbread release.... you'll just have to keep waiting. Bell is slower than the second coming. Just keep a full KC1 or JL2 (with bootloaders) around so you can flash back to stock if you need be.

Also, you said you had trouble flashing before. I'd suggest following that link in my post above, and if you get stuck, come back and we can step you through.
And finally, you really can't brick you phone as long as you are able to access download mode and 3 button recovery. Absolutely make sure you can access these two modes before flashing anything.

I have actually had issues getting into recovery mode sometimes but not usually, but have no problem entering download mode. I think at one point I wound up with upload mode... which doesent seem to be documented... But dont quote me on that one as it was a while ago (after searching high and low on my NAS I cant find the photo i took sorry). I have actually had to send this phone off to bell to get them to fix it twice now.
Once due to my inability to do this properly without making a forum post asking these question and another due to a bad Kies update sending my phone into a boot loop.
So you say Cyanogen nightly works well im thinking I might give that a shot as im sure there are good reasons why you would want to use cyanogen over another release. Im just hoping for no weird Telco specific crap on my phone unless its Bell specific if i must have even that.
Would I go into the ROM list thread for the cyanogenmod nightly? http://goo.gl/IBbEm
Which leads me to this? http://goo.gl/b5UwG
or is there a better way to obtain CM7? Also what would be a good location to try and find my modem driver (KC1)?
I'm sorry to spam questions here but one final one. Would there be a good boot loader that I should strive for, if any?

SaneinOne said:
JVH is official release in parts of Europe. I'm with Bell, running JVH with KC1 modem since its release and absolutely no issues.
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I am running the above now. I was on Darky 9.5, then upgraded yesterday to Ficeto JVB, Dark Core 2.2 and Darky's v10 RC6. Then flashed Dark Core 2.3.
I then flashed KC1 modem this morning.
Running great and loving the rom so far.. its a base rom, so not a lot of features in it but at least i can customize it to how i like it so far.

I've downloaded this file I9000UGKC1 ## 512.PIT 2.2 2011 March from samfirmwares I'm hoping it works out well for giving me the modem driver.
And
Gingerbread 2.3.3: XWJVH from http://goo.gl/AEYzr to get a gingerbread release with a boot loader.
I will now look for a copy of odin hopefully it doesn't matter which version I get but I've noticed there is allot of fuzz when it comes to odin versions or even where to obtain it even. I want to obtain it from a legitimate source but it seems as though there is no specific location as to where to get it.
At some point I would like to try Cyanogen as everyone holds it in rather high regard though I'm not really sure what the benefits would be.

Some roms on here come with odin. You can also get it from samfirmware. The development thread is where you will find all information for each release. There's a few sources for cwm flashable modems. Odin isn't bad at all, it can be a little finicky with win 7 64 bit for some people but I have had no problems with it at all. Good luck and hope you find a rom that suits you.
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shadoslayer said:
There isn't really anything specific for the i9000m. Really, its just a matter of picking a rom and following the flashing instructions. If you're flashing a stock release (like JVH lets say), use Odin, flash the tarball with update bootloader checked and once thats done, flash an appropriate modem for Bell (for 850mhz), like KC1 that I find works very well.
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Do you see much of a difference with the KC1 modem? Im running the JVO modem and it works fine for me usually have 3-4 bar connection, 3G tends to run quite often and get a 1Mbps down and 2 Mbps up connection, only thing I notice is that it runs on the 1900 band mostly
Any benefits to switching to KC1? Battery savings?

Do you see much of a difference with the KC1 modem? Im running the JVO modem and it works fine for me usually have 3-4 bar connection, 3G tends to run quite often and get a 1Mbps down and 2 Mbps up connection, only thing I notice is that it runs on the 1900 band mostly
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Turns out the
PDA: XWJVH
MODEM: XXJVO
CSC: NEEJV3 or XEEJV3 (Only difference between NEE and XEE is the CSC code)
Build Date: Wed May 4 18:03:59 KST 2011
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seems to work fine with working modem from http://goo.gl/02b7S
BUT
there is no OpenVpn OR SIP and those are the two things that I really wanted out of gingerbread.

I personally found JL2 better than KC1. I get up to 5mb/s down and 3mb/s up.
About cyanogen, you gotta try it to see . I didn't believe the difference would be noticeable either...
If you want modems for cm7, click the JL2 modem link in my sig, there's a post full of them.
For modems for other roms, look over there : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876391
And just like everyone else said, you can flash i9000 roms on i9000m without any problems - in fact even flashing a different modem isn't necessary, depending on your provider, it's just better.

those are features commonly found within the custom roms for jvh

Thanks for this thread. Provided the modem for me to get this working properly.

If I were you I would stick with a Daryky rom. his 10 finaly is a little slow and glitchy at times so I recommend 10 RC6. it's a stock jvh rom with his tweeks. Cyanogen is basically vanilla rom. it's so fast (the best i've flashed so far) but it's missing swype, like you stated you wanted that. I tried getting the beta swype but it didn't work. anyways i'm actually liking the gingerbread keyboard haha. so ya, if you need swype stick with darky rom, if your looking to try an amazing rom try cyanogen.

The swype beta installed without any problems for me on cm7...
The only thing is I speak french, so either I get the english keyboard, or I get the "France" french one... which is AZERTY... u_U

spectre85 said:
If I were you I would stick with a Daryky rom. his 10 finaly is a little slow and glitchy at times so I recommend 10 RC6. it's a stock jvh rom with his tweeks. Cyanogen is basically vanilla rom. it's so fast (the best i've flashed so far) but it's missing swype, like you stated you wanted that. I tried getting the beta swype but it didn't work.
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I used Darky's rom for a looong time before switching to something else. I really didn't like the theme (at the time), and I found roms that seemed to perform better. I also ran a deodexed JL2 that I cooked myself for a while.
You can get swipe APKs from just about any custom rom out there, just pull the apk out of the .zip and install it. Or, I just signed up for swipe beta and installed it - works great.
Anyway, I guess the bottom line is that there are so many options available, and so many fantastic cooked roms available in the development thread, that trying them and finding one you really like is the only way to go.

ROMs for 10.1 on 8.9

Hi !
I'm really curious about why I can't use ROM for the 10.1 version on 8.9 version of Galaxy Tab.
Except the panel size (10.1 vs 8.9) and battery capacity, there are other hardware differences ?
Any ideas ?
Thanks.

You /can/ use 10.1 ROMs. The 8.9 and 10.1 are virtually identical.
You just need to swap out boot.img and recovery.img AFAIK. And edit build.prop.

Hurrian said:
You /can/ use 10.1 ROMs. The 8.9 and 10.1 are virtually identical.
You just need to swap out boot.img and recovery.img AFAIK. And edit build.prop.
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can you point me to the right track
what i need to edit the build.prop?

Here, courtesy of alterbridge86.
BTW, Overcome 2.0.0 is a P75xx ROM ported to P73xx, if you'd want to start on that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18872241&postcount=48

Thinking about the same thing.There is much less rom on the 73xx section, . Is anyone here would like to give more detail on these?

Hurrian said:
Here, courtesy of alterbridge86.
BTW, Overcome 2.0.0 is a P75xx ROM ported to P73xx, if you'd want to start on that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18872241&postcount=48
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thanks, will start to learn on this

I hope good theme'rs get the 8.9 soon. I wish i had the talent to do it

Actually, I don't think it's as simple as that post from alterbridge - that was quite early on in his experimentations with Overcome on the 8.9. I recall from the subsequent release of Overcome that he said that there were other considerations, which is why the camera was flipped in the earlier versions based on 10.1 ROMs. He switched back to 8.9 bases for the 1.2 version for this reason.
Clearly, these issues were resolved as the latest Overcome is now based on a 10.1 base again. However, I think there are a couple of other things needed that aren't articulated in the thread where he was replying to me on the subject. Anyone know for sure what else needs fixing?

i think - the most intresting problem with ROM - support language
How can add/delete longuga in ROM

Loccy said:
Actually, I don't think it's as simple as that post from alterbridge - that was quite early on in his experimentations with Overcome on the 8.9. I recall from the subsequent release of Overcome that he said that there were other considerations, which is why the camera was flipped in the earlier versions based on 10.1 ROMs. He switched back to 8.9 bases for the 1.2 version for this reason.
Clearly, these issues were resolved as the latest Overcome is now based on a 10.1 base again. However, I think there are a couple of other things needed that aren't articulated in the thread where he was replying to me on the subject. Anyone know for sure what else needs fixing?
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You are right. Is much complicate than what they said. I just did an experiment. I replaced the boot.img in one 7510 custom rom with 7310Overcome 2.0's own boot.img, and changed some word in the build.prop. Put it on my 7310. Luckily ,it boot alright, but when the android welcome page(select your langurge ) show up, the screen did't respond my touch correctly, I need to touch somewhere under the target what I want to touch to make it work.
Looks like there is lots of thing I need to know.

I wonder when the CM ICS rom hits the 10.1 will alterbridge86 be able to work his magic ?
Fingers crossed !!

The true is,it is simple as what they said. My experiment work finally. I replace the boot.img in one custom 7510rom by the one in 7310Overcome2.0.
The tweak of the build.prop is very simple. Just replace all "P7510" by "P7310". Add "ro.sf.hwrotation=90" in the last. And All is done. The little mod Rom work perfectly on my 7310.
But I think the success belong to alterbridge86's boot.img and his work,without that, the rom just showed the Logo, nothing else.
By the way,I am going to investigate what magic alterbridge86 do in the file boot.img. The file size is much small than the stock one(half),and what's the impact. I have lots thing to learn

Might give this a try tomorrow. Would love to try a Vanilla rom on the 8.9.

any luck with the vanilla rom?

Does anyone own the SHV-E140?

I am looking for someone who owns the korean version of the LTE 8.9. My internet searches havent found anything, but I believe the device has been upgraded to ICS. If we can find someone with the device and who has updated, then we can build a working US version from it. If anyone can find the firmware online that also works.
Info: http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SHV-E140SZW3SC-support
Source: http://www.samsung.com/sec/ics/06_shv-e140s_ics_kies.html

I've been looking for that very thing since I posted in the official ics thread earlier. No luck so far...

orlandoxpolice said:
I am looking for someone who owns the korean version of the LTE 8.9. My internet searches havent found anything, but I believe the device has been upgraded to ICS. If we can find someone with the device and who has updated, then we can build a working US version from it. If anyone can find the firmware online that also works.
Info: http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SHV-E140SZW3SC-support
Source: http://www.samsung.com/sec/ics/06_shv-e140s_ics_kies.html
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i looked everywhere .. chinese site even korean site ... cant find the rom
or maybe we should get someone who read korean to check out the korean site and see when is the update actually out.....
i believe it says ics is coming ... but when

It appears the source for the SHV-E140S is now posted on opensource.samsung.com.
This is new in the last few days, I checked earlier in the week and it wasn't there... Yay!

there are 3 seperate versions... I'm downloading all of them ATM and see what is in there...
link: just scroll down until u see the device name. : http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=list&menu_item=mobile&classification1=mobile_phone
also there are 4 different files but only one is ICS update
I opened the ICS update and there are a few interesting things... but I don't know if the internals are identical to 8.9 so we could just copy the drivers over...

nvm, saw OP's signature. This one is based on Qualcomm, different from P7300/P7310.

The platform stuff from the opensource site is probably mostly useless, as it's going to be an asian version of android that likely doesn't have english support. Correct me if I'm wrong.. It's probably best to use the kernel to bring up CM9 on this device.
The kernel does have config selections for the I957, and it successfully builds with this option, unlike the I717 and I727 releases -- They both had the 957 option in the kernel config, but didn't include most the actual code bits to allow it to build for that device, and the bits it did include didn't compile, all sorts of compile errors as if it hadn't been QA'ed at all...
Also.. I found the binary package, for the SHV-E140S, hosted on xbigfile.naver.com at some torrent page: w3ww.matpclub.com/b/torrent/119077
http://xbigfile.naver.com/bigfileup...jK6MrFoCop6kvaxb9MxbZaxkoFqM9axi4Mo+4F6EwK6E=
Let me know if you need me to mirror this...
The SHV-140 and SGH-I957 are very similar.. If you look at the ifdefs in the kernel source code (CONFIG_KOR_MODEL_SHV_E140S vs CONFIG_USA_MODEL_SGH_I957) the only difference I could find is in the DSP module -- Includes wrapped in ifdef tags select arch/arm/mach-msm/qdsp6v2/timpani_profile_p5lte_att.h vs arch/arm/mach-msm/qdsp6v2/timpani_profile_p5lte_skt.h. These are the DSP codecs. These files contain several hundred KB of what appears to be binary code in hex for the DSP engine, and are extensively different. From what's there, it looks like most of it relates to handling audio streams at various bitrates, including mic, line in, headphone sources. It appears the DSP engines in these devices are pretty different?
So, the binary kernel for the SHV-140 isn't going to work well with the I957, even if only because of the DSP changes. This isn't too surprising.
I think the next step is to investigate getting the kernel into the CM9 build tree. Anyone a ninja with that sort of thing?

nrvate said:
The platform stuff from the opensource site is probably mostly useless...
The SHV-140 and SGH-I957 are very similar.. If you look at the ifdefs in the kernel source code ...
So, the binary kernel for the SHV-140 isn't going to work well with the I957, even if only because of the DSP changes. This isn't too surprising.
I think the next step is to investigate getting the kernel into the CM9 build tree. Anyone a ninja with that sort of thing?
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Funny enough... I ran the above through Google Translate and it came out just the same! :silly:
Whatever you and/or the other brilliant devs can come up with as a path forward will I'm sure be farther along than it is now. Just let us tinkerers know what we can do to help. :highfive:

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_p5att
Looks like someone is starting a device tree for the P5 ATT version!
Jellybean branch too, looks like CM10. That'd sure be pretty awesome.

Already posted. Nevermind.

http://story537.tistory.com/category/갤럭시 시리즈 펌웨어/갤럭시탭 8.9 LTE
check out this site
i am not sure this is what we all are looking for
maybe it is ... maybe not ... cuz its in korean... and i dont understand it

madsatan said:
http://story537.tistory.com/category/갤럭시 시리즈 펌웨어/갤럭시탭 8.9 LTE
check out this site
i am not sure this is what we all are looking for
maybe it is ... maybe not ... cuz its in korean... and i dont understand it
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It's the ICS firmware for the SHV-E140S (SKT).

Someone flashed it and cant get past the samsung logo.

Hopefully, the Dev. will look at it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I957 using xda app-developers app

lookin for ICS firmware
I cant update via Kies also FOTA,when it enter download mode,the tab is disconnect with PC!

Shv e140s JB download links in regular dev section. Need to grab links before mod edit/ closes.
Edit: ics not jb. Got excited for sec

see a ICS rom for E140S at : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943435

e140K
Yes I own a e140 but it's e140k. Still looking for the Stock ROM for ICS.

Got it
I have the stock firmware for SHV-E140K when it upgraded the firmware. It is HOME_SHV-E140K.UK22.1901_CL1174059_REV01_user_low_ship.tar.md5.
Can anyone do something with it? I will upload it to any site people prefer.

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