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Is Note pleasant for night reading?

I've seen many Youtube Note videos with max brightness (some about e-reading), but almost none with the lowest brightness setting.
So, what do you think of reading at night with the Note, with low or no exterior light? Are white letters on black blackground too bright that becomes unconfortable?
What is your experience with apps like screen filter?
Those who come from HTC phones, do you find Note's screen more stressful to your eyes?

I've owned htc and sony phones and the Note's screen is very vibrant and great for night reading. Even on the low brightness in a dark room, you won't have trouble to read unless you have a bad eye sight.
Only people who are used to smaller screens or have pain in the eye will find the night usage painful for their sight. I use it every night before sleeping - no complains so far.

My fear is that Note will be too vibrant and brightfull and will strain my eyes.
For instance, I prefer reading at night with my HD2 than with my Asus Transformer, because it has a lower brightness level.

I don't know about you but I've also own a HD2 and I found the amoled screen very pleasant compare to every htc phones. The brightness can be toggle to suit you. But it's better that you test before in a shop if you are afraid.

There's an app called screen filter on market where you can lower the brightness until the letters are almost invisible. Great for night time reading!
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I use it on my HD2, but I've read here that Note's screen doesn't deal well with it and the image becomes greyish

Zamboney said:
There's an app called screen filter on market where you can lower the brightness until the letters are almost invisible. Great for night time reading!
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Yep, I find it easy to read at night but only with screen filter. Must have app.

It is pretty bright at night, even with white text on a black background, but no problem if you use Screen Filter or one of the other several similar apps to dim it further. I have toggles on my home screen for several different filter levels for different purposes. Also, I use the night-vision mode that comes with Chainfire3D to turn it to red text on a black background, for even better night time reading.

With Fbreader you can just change the color of the text to something closer to black and have night mode with the lowest brightness setting on. Voila! Very clear and easy to read in pitch dark.

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My experience is a little different to others in the thread.
I also come from using an HD2 and to me, reading at night is a weakness for the Note. Even with saturation and contrast adjusted, the pentile display really stands out to me when you're (a) in a dark room and (b) holding the Note quite close to your eyes.
Both these are true when I'm reading. It's not particularly uncomfortable but just a bit annoying.

Could you detail further the 'pentile experience'? You see pixels or 'grain'?

I've had lots of other phones and can with certainty say that I've never had a book reader as good as my beloved Note. Pentile or not.
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Could you detail further the 'pentile experience'? You see pixels or 'grain'?
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I can see the separation between the pixels as I tend to hold it quite close on a low brightness when reading. It doesn't make it any more difficult to read, and of course the resolution outweighs that negative, but it just makes it look a little bit less perfect.

I am using Screendim application and it works much better than screen filter. There is Screendim trial just for three days.
Amoled screen cannot be made lower brightness than the default so it must be using contrast features to make it dimmer.

I have to say that reading is the primary reason why I bought the Note. I read a lot of ebooks. I find the Note to be a perfect size for reading at night in bed.
I have never found the brightness an issue... What u need is a good reading app. Thats what makes the difference.
I use Moon Reader Pro and epubeader (free on the Market and can also read .mobi). Both these programs have the ability to change the text color and background and brightness.
I find that black background with pale grey/blue text is the easiest to read while conserving most battery power.

For me, Note is amazing, and if talking about brightness, it can auto-adjust itself.
I agree with documents transformed to pure black backgrounds and maybe 10% black to white text color is perfect for the eye, so you can almost fall asleep while your phone saves battery.

For some reason ScreenFilter worked better on my S2 than it does on the Note. Using ScreenFilter just makes the picture look bad... washed out and difficult to read. I wish my Note could have lower brightness on the lowest setting.
Maybe Samsung doesn't want to go lower to avoid showing imperfections.

Tubgirl said:
For some reason ScreenFilter worked better on my S2 than it does on the Note. Using ScreenFilter just makes the picture look bad... washed out and difficult to read. I wish my Note could have lower brightness on the lowest setting.
Maybe Samsung doesn't want to go lower to avoid showing imperfections.
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I find it better if you use the Voodoo screen tuning app - worth trying

Nexus 7 causes eye strain :(

Hello, I own N7 3G version and I have very annoying problem. My eyes hurt when I read texts. They look little bit blurry and the white is too saturated. I noticed that the greens and yellows are very pale compared to my LG OPTIMUS Black that uses LCD too..Is it me or my device has bad display?

Try screen filter?
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ClintvL said:
Try screen filter?
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I used to use screen filter, but I ended up shelling out for Lux Auto Brightness. It's just so much easier to use. I thought Screen Filter was a hassle and it needs to be disabled in order to sideload apps because it won't allow you to click the install button if it's enabled.

Kraize said:
I used to use screen filter, but I ended up shelling out for Lux Auto Brightness. It's just so much easier to use. I thought Screen Filter was a hassle and it needs to be disabled in order to sideload apps because it won't allow you to click the install button if it's enabled.
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Lux does that too, but it's smart enough to disable itself for that short time you're installing.

If the text you are talking about are web pages, you might consider getting the (stock Android) Browser.apk out of a AOKP build that matches your ROM base (4.1 vs. 4.2) and installing that in addition to Chrome (if for instance you are using a near-stock ROM).
The one thing that was an immediate disappointment to me for the N7 right out of the box was with the Chrome browser's lack of text reflow when zooming.
The Stock Android browser does text reflow nicely, so there's less eyestrain looking at larger text. Nicer bookmarks than Chrome IMO, too.
It does seem a little more prone to crashing than Chrome - but I use it anytime I want to read web pages where zoom+reflow makes the reading easier.
cheers

kopchev said:
Hello, I own N7 3G version and I have very annoying problem. My eyes hurt when I read texts. They look little bit blurry and the white is too saturated. I noticed that the greens and yellows are very pale compared to my LG OPTIMUS Black that uses LCD too..Is it me or my device has bad display?
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Silly question but have you thought about going to the optician? Maybe you have bad eyes and need corrective glasses.
From my Nexus 7

I'm short-sighted - that means I see close objects fine opposed to distant objects. I'm corrected with glasses Anyway. I don't have such issues with ipads, xoom despite the bad PPI of the latter. The color reproduction is wrong with nexus, especially the black fonts on white background - they look too grayish and blurred and kinda blend with the oversaturated white background. Interestingly reds and blues look fine on white background; the same is valid also for the white texts on black background. Not to mention the device has very weak greens and yellows even compared to many mediocre LCDs. No ASUS again

kopchev said:
Hello, I own N7 3G version and I have very annoying problem. My eyes hurt when I read texts. They look little bit blurry and the white is too saturated. I noticed that the greens and yellows are very pale compared to my LG OPTIMUS Black that uses LCD too..Is it me or my device has bad display?
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To answer your question. I've used my N7 heavily....hours and hours every day, for all kinds of tasks, and have never experienced what you describe. Each person is different, it sounds to me maybe you're sensitive to something on the device that few others are...maybe its the high PPI? Go try an iPad Mini
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I think it is the scrolling, wat makes my eyes hurt. The tekst is building up in a way that I have to focus again and again. The xda app is a example of it.

I get big eye strain using the N7, especially at night !! But only one white pages. This aint just the tab though, I get it from my computer screen also.
Is it normal to be getting eye ache and headaches from whites onscreen?
I ended up getting a browser (Maxthon) with nightmode for my tab, but doesn't help for the PC.
Any ideas how to cause less strain to myself? My brightness is low etc.

Wilks3y said:
I get big eye strain using the N7, especially at night !! But only one white pages. This aint just the tab though, I get it from my computer screen also.
Is it normal to be getting eye ache and headaches from whites onscreen?
I ended up getting a browser (Maxthon) with nightmode for my tab, but doesn't help for the PC.
Any ideas how to cause less strain to myself? My brightness is low etc.
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for your computer download and install F.lux - at night your eyes will thank you. it takes ~15-30 minutes for your eyes to get adjusted to the color shift. If you really want to see the difference it makes after using it for 2-3 hours at night, disable it and see the results for yourself.
Anyone know a good flux alternative for android? I would assume if they have a jailbroken app for ios they should have had a android .apk.

What screen mode are you using?

As with previous Samsung devices you can choose between various display modes, some are more accurate than others and different people prefer different look. Which mode are you running?
Adaptive display- Far too saturated colors, white point is too high(blue)
AMOLED Cinema- less saturated than Adaptive display but white point is still too high
AMOLED Photo- colors are slightly too saturated, white point is pretty good(right around 6.5k).
Basic- This is suppose to be the most accurate mode according to display mate but the UI and icons look washed out(perhaps because the UI colors were designed with very high saturation in mind?) . This mode is great for photos and videos though.
Update - I've started using basic mode. It took much longer than expected to get use to it but once I did I won't look back.

I'm using cinema as I think it looks the best

I personally always go for the most technically accurate, which is funny cause it's called basic mode lol.

I just use adaptive. Then it aaaaaaaaaadapts. Which is fine. Basic is too washed out for me. Maybe Ill do a week basic and see if it grows on me, though.

Slai said:
I just use adaptive. Then it aaaaaaaaaadapts. Which is fine. Basic is too washed out for me. Maybe Ill do a week basic and see if it grows on me, though.
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I don't think adaptive display does a great job at adapting lol at least not from what I have seen....I've compared Note 4s side by side at work and adaptive doesn't really seem to adapt at all regardless of the type of media that is being displayed, still looks far to saturated and the white point is too high. Some people like that though which is why it's set to that by default.

ant78 said:
I'm using cinema as I think it looks the best
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I though the same thing as well, at first. Cinema mode looked more like my Galaxy S4 which I was use to. I decided to give photo mode a go though since its significantly more accurate and it grew on me after a few hours. It takes a while for your eyes and brain to readjust.

Yeah I think I'll try out basic for a while and see if it grows on me.

I've just switched to basic. I used the equivalent of it on my Galaxy Tab 7.7 which also had an amoled display and I soon got used to the correct colours. Every time the phone rebooted it would start in the default before switching and you could see just how over saturated the colours are.
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xrayA4T said:
I've just switched to basic. I used the equivalent of it on my Galaxy Tab 7.7 which also had an amoled display and I soon got used to the correct colours. Every time the phone rebooted it would start in the default before switching and you could see just how over saturated the colours are.
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Yeah, same here. After using the stock color mode for years, it took me a while to get used to the accurate colors. But once I did, I could see the difference in how over saturated the colors were on stock mode. But it's definitely a preference, some people like the colors to pop.

Oversaturated colors are the best thing about AMOLED in my opinion.

Still using basic here. HAHAHAHA. But planning to try Cinema soon

I use adapted display. Don't care how accuracy color is Basic, it just wash out to me.
Cinema is crazy saturation.
Photo mode a bit yellowish, too warm.

I like cinemas cool color as photo is too warm for my tastes. I never use adaptive and basic looks off to me.
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Adaptive display
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Trying with adaptative... will see how it behaves or I'll go back to Cinema.

Cinema for the best white.

Using Cinema, loving it!

Do you think adaptative display, for obvius reasons, consumes more battery than the others?

I use photo for now because I like the high saturation that comes with it (it's not that high anyway since I use it dimmed back a bit).

AlexTemina said:
Do you think adaptative display, for obvius reasons, consumes more battery than the others?
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Actually its supposed to save on battery power.

Screen dimming app

The lowest brightness setting on the Turbo is still pretty bright. Any apps out there that can dim it below factory settings without need for root access?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=giraffine.dimmer&hl=en

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=giraffine.dimmer&hl=en
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Absolutely perfect. Just what I was looking for. Thank you kind person.

This is refreshing to hear with most people *****ing about it not being bright enough. Personally, I think the brightness is just fine
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I think the brightness is just fine also. Not sure why people want brighter. I figure the brighter the screen the quicker you'll burn out your eyes. I always keep my setting on auto brightness anyways. Only reason I wanted a dimmer app is so I don't bother my sleeping wife at night when I'm on my phone.

tonyf7 said:
I think the brightness is just fine also. Not sure why people want brighter. I figure the brighter the screen the quicker you'll burn out your eyes. I always keep my setting on auto brightness anyways. Only reason I wanted a dimmer app is so I don't bother my sleeping wife at night when I'm on my phone.
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I just checked one out in the store and, yeah, was extremely bright. Can't say that for any of the reps, however.

Also check this out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitocassisi.luxlite&hl=en I love it!

I'm using "Darker" it also gives you the option to dim the capacitive buttons. Looks great! Free and Pro versions available:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ilter&pcampaignid=APPU_ZdVZVKSlDcXHiQLEqIGIAQ
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So it is wrong about the analysis about the screen in Phone Arena?.
They said the screen is really poor because the maximum brightness is 248 that is pretty lame to me. Chart is on bottom of page 1.
Article here: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DROID-Turbo-Review_id3838

Galaxo60 said:
So it is wrong about the analysis about the screen in Phone Arena?.
They said the screen is really poor because the maximum brightness is 248 that is pretty lame to me. Chart is on bottom of page 1.
Article here: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DROID-Turbo-Review_id3838
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I think the screen is just fine. If you look at it from a user standpoint and forget about all the reviews and comparisons out there you won't be one bit disappointed.

tonyf7 said:
I think the screen is just fine. If you look at it from a user standpoint and forget about all the reviews and comparisons out there you won't be one bit disappointed.
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screen is great. Haven't once noticed it being too dim. In fact at night its too bright. I use Lux Dash app to dim it lower.
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Ditto to this. The screen gets insanely bright for nighttime use. I also use my phone in direct sunlight 75% of the time. Better than my s4 brightness. I'm not sure what people are complaining about.
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Introduction of a user with special needs

Hello,
I have problems with using smartphones because of an neurological illness which makes me very light sensitive. So I might ask some questions related to display technologies, screen dimming and phone models, in search of a solution for my problem.
I used to be a programmer in the past, but long time ago. This forum was recommended to me in a Java forum.
Hello to everyone, nice to meet you.

Welcome to XDA
May I ask specifically what is the issue ie epilepsy, migraines etc?
It may not just be brightness but how the light is modulated. OLEDs are typically using duty cycle modulation for dimming. Some allow for current dimming.
LCDs typically use current dimming.
The duty cycle dimming can be irritating to some.
Controlling the room's ambient light levels may be helpful to you. Taking frequent breaks to look at objects further away to reduce eyestrain.
Using system dark mode greatly reduces overall light output. Using dark custom color wallpaper and icons do too.
Disabling all animations may be helpful... it also speeds up the system slightly.
Try using manual brightness control, it can reduce the strain and allow you to chose the best viewing intensity.
Getting rid of as many white icons can help reduce the overall things glaring at you.
Samsung phones have the most customization for this.

blackhawk said:
Welcome to XDA
May I ask specifically what is the issue ie epilepsy, migraines etc?
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Thanks, it's chronic fatigue syndrome (not sure as there is no biomarker / laboratory test for this illness due to a lack of research, but that's what doctors told me).
blackhawk said:
It may not just be brightness but how the light is modulated.
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I'm sure it's the brightness as I have problems with any kind of displays and light sources: computers, TVs, beamers etc.
I also need to wear sunglasses outside more often than normal people do.
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OLEDs are typically using duty cycle modulation for dimming. Some allow for current dimming.
LCDs typically use current dimming.
The duty cycle dimming can be irritating to some.
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Actually I wanted to ask about OLED and LCD phones. I was able to use a Samsung Galaxy S3 mini with manual brightness control fully turned down and additionally with a screen dimmer app, but it is getting too old now. So I bought an A12 but couldn't bear the light, even not with the manual brightness control turned fully down and an additional screen dimmer app. In the Play Store somebody writes that screen dimmer apps would make the liquid crystal layer of an LCD darker, but not reduce the light emitted by the lamps below. So it would filter away some of the light.
I wonder how a screen dimmer app works on an OLED screen as there is only one layer. Does it reduce the amount of light right from the start? That could explain why I could deal with the (screen dimmed) S3 mini (OLED display) and not with the (screen dimmed) A12 (IPS = LCD). Besides the different display sizes.
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Using system dark mode greatly reduces overall light output.
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I would like to use a messenger app which has no dark mode. Actually it has a white background which makes it very difficult for me, even on the S3 mini.
Is it possible to set inverse colors for just one app? Would it be possible to develop an app who allows to set this for another app? Or does such an app exist already?
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Using dark custom color wallpaper and icons do too.
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By choosing a theme? Sorry, I am not familiar with modern phones.
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Getting rid of as many white icons can help reduce the overall things glaring at you.
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The same.
Thanks a lot

Just a thought... doctors only know and can do so much. In the end it's always the body that heals its self. Start a anerobic workout program. Start pumping steel.
10-20 minutes 3 times a week for the first 2-3 months. Incorporate back squats at the 3 month mark. All free weights.
Limit cardio to 5-10 minutes and only after the free weights or on off days.
Or
If you like swimming, do that.
The body responds to intense limited stress on a cellular level with increased vitality. Controlled intense stress makes you stronger, boosts and modulates the immune system, reduces pain and increases hgh levels. Force your body to adapt the old fashioned way... it's already programmed into your DNA. Flip the switch.
Do not over train.
As for the rest. I can help you with Samsung customization on their newer phones.
You don't need to use dark mode on all apps, some allow you to set your preference. That depends somewhat on the OS version you're using. Brave and Samsung browser allow either mode.
The whole display thing you'll need to research.
I gave you what I know. In general AMOLED displays are best but you'll need to experiment what works best for you. Maybe limiting the length and/or number of sessions per day would provide the best results. Avoid when tired.

@blackhawk Thanks for your help.
At the moment I can't care about this problem.

KarlKraut said:
@blackhawk Thanks for your help.
At the moment I can't care about this problem.
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Meh, I hear you.
Getting back to your original Q; increase ambient light levels. A bright screen in low light can burn your eyes out. Bring ambient light levels closer to the display level reduces eye strain.
Take a break every 5-30 minutes and look off at a distant object. Close your eyes, chill.
If you don't already, get a cat or a dog. Pick a cool one that has that spark and character. Young rescues are the best, they bond to you like no other.
That is if you like those critters.
Hair of the dog; try a shot of whiskey first thing in the morning. Medicinal this be. Keep it to no more than 2 shots a day, and don't use it to sleep.
Whiskey has antioxidants. See how it feels.
Oddly it hits me completely differently in the morning vs evening and dissipates rapidly.
The Greeks swear by whiskey... of course they tend to swear a lot anyway.