[Q] Install ROM on MicroSD instead of internal phone mem. - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As The Title Suggests, Is There Any Way To Install A ROM Onto A 16GB MicrSDHC (class 10) Instead Of The Phones Internal Memory?
I 'Googled" It For Several Hours, Unfortunately Did Not Find An Answer.
Let Me Explain Further As To What I'm Really Trying To Accomplish. I Want To Flash A(ny) ROM Onto The MicroSD Card So I Will Have The Entire Internal Memory Free On My G1. And Then (if at all possible) Somehow Use The Internal Storage As Extended RAM.
Even If This Seems "Close To Impossible", Could Someone With Enough Knowledge (a dev?) Explain How Something Like This "Could" Be Accomplished??
Thanks For Your Time! Can't Wait To Read What People Have To Say About This..
Ideas & Possible Solutions Are Better Than Just Saying 'It Can't Be Done..etc'

I doubt this is even possible. Sorry.
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Moving apps 2 sd without roOting it

I really need away to move apps from my tab to the sd card with out rooting it.
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Download an app called a2sd or app2sd by Sam Lu. That should do it But have you really used 2gb already?
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I have that app and it won't move all apps to sd. I wanna move all with out rooting.
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Um, guys...it's running 2.2, there is no need for a third party app or rooting.
Go to Applications/Manage Applications, pick the app you want to move, click on it, you'll see a big huge tab that says:
Move to SD Card​
You should be able to figure the rest out.
It won't move them I have tried. I have a Evo so I'm familiar weith 2.2 froyo.
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Which apps won't move. You can only move apps that would be in Data as well as aps that support apps2sd?
Wow, you want APPS2SD on a system with this much space? What on earth are you putting on there that an extra few MB becomes essential to you?
knightnz said:
Wow, you want APPS2SD on a system with this much space? What on earth are you putting on there that an extra few MB becomes essential to you?
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Exactly my first thought.
But still, even rooting isnt giving us a2sd+ atm, so referring to that is pointless. And FroYo a2sd wont give you that much more space. And the apps take longer to load after a reboot.
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knightnz said:
Wow, you want APPS2SD on a system with this much space? What on earth are you putting on there that an extra few MB becomes essential to you?
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Sprint and Verizon only have 2GB internal memory.
"Only"
It's more than enough.
infamousjax said:
Sprint and Verizon only have 2GB internal memory.
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oh my. Do/have you owned a HTC phone? 2gb is more than enough. If yoube used it already, then delete apps you dont need and clear your caches.
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infamousjax said:
Sprint and Verizon only have 2GB internal memory.
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The amount of available space for application storage is still the same. The additional storage on the 16gb Tabs appears as external memory, exactly like an external SD card. The only difference is that with the 16gb models, you don't have to populate the SD card slot to have external storage.
As far as apps are concerned 2gb is more than sufficient - my HTC Desire had less than 100mb available for apps and that was too small, but we're talking 20 times that here.
FWIW, most storage hungry apps (e.g games) tend to install resources to external memory. For example most Gameloft games are around 20mb on internal memory, with an additional 300mb going external (which woukd be SD card on a Sprint or Verizon Tab).
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Dave

[Q] Possible to run google maps from sd?

Is it possible to run google maps from sd? Running out of internal memory, and have moved everything else possible to sd.
Nexus one 4ever
Clean out your phone, you have too much stuff. Really you need to unload some stuff.
Root and install Apps2EXT.
Jack, why do you prefer apps2ext over apps2sd (darktremor)? I'm trying to decide which way to go...
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danger-rat said:
Jack, why do you prefer apps2ext over apps2sd (darktremor)? I'm trying to decide which way to go...
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You're confused. Apps2Ext is linking the apps directory to an ext partition on the SD card, ie: what darktremor does. Saying Apps2Ext is a way to differentiate between Froyo (Apps2SD) and ext (Apps2Ext).
And why do it? EVERY app safely lives on the SD card, no worries about widgets or stuff that runs all the time or apps which really don't want to move to the SD card.
Probably am confused - wouldn't be the first time...
I though darktremor was one of a few different methods. I move apps to the SD with Froyo, but I still have to keep an eye on internal storage, because only part of the app gets moved...
Trying to find a better way...
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I think I recall Google saying that was in development. T-Mobile doesn't really work anywhere and especially near and outside of major city limits. So when you really need a map tmobile doesnt work, having maps available on sd would be incredible. God I hate T-Mobile, I just hate them so damn much. They told me to write down all the places my phone doesn't work so I can tell them. Apparently I can't just be a customer, if I want decent service I have to actually work for T-Mobile for free. Just a useless, God awful carrier.
DMaverick50 said:
I think I recall Google saying that was in development. T-Mobile doesn't really work anywhere and especially near and outside of major city limits. So when you really need a map tmobile doesnt work, having maps available on sd would be incredible.
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Maybe have a look at this thread. I've used it before, but never messed with caching the tiles to the SD card, which is apparently supported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887

[Q] Is it possible to resize emmc for more internal?

Using cm7, I find many issues stem from apps trying to read from SD. is there a way to resize emmc to a smaller size and increase the size of internal storage? or are they on a seperate physical storage?
Thanks
If I understand correctly, what you are asking is it is possible to have CM see the WHOLE 5 GB as internal storage, rather than .998 GB and a mount point at /mnt/emmc?
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deadbot1 said:
If I understand correctly, what you are asking is it is possible to have CM see the WHOLE 5 GB as internal storage, rather than .998 TB and a mount point at /mnt/emmc?
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well i would like to know that.
Agreed. This would make a lot of things work nicer, if not better. The Nook app comes to mind first off. Lots of apps can't t see that mount point at /mnt/emmc.
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deadbot1 said:
Agreed. This would make a lot of things work nicer, if not better. The Nook app comes to mind first off. Lots of apps can't t see that mount point at /mnt/emmc.
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Could it be that the apps are written to store data to the mount point /sdcard?
There is a app in the developers area to swap /mnt/emmc and /sdcard. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034939
I have not tried it so can not tell you how it works.
painter_ said:
Could it be that the apps are written to store data to the mount point /sdcard?
There is a app in the developers area to swap /mnt/emmc and /sdcard. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034939
I have not tried it so can not tell you how it works.
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Yep, already looked at that...defeats the purpose of the idea...to get access to the FULL capacity...of BOTH the internal and SD card.
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deadbot1 said:
Yep, already looked at that...defeats the purpose of the idea...to get access to the FULL capacity...of BOTH the internal and SD card.
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Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
painter_ said:
Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
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i would like to know if its possible to use all the 5 gigs for apps and stuff.
painter_ said:
Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
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No, no. If you look at the way that CM7 uses the EMMC card on board it "splits" it into storage(the way a phone sees it in android) and a mount point that is like an SD card. The problem with this is that some apps are poorly written and can't see that mount point at /mnt/emmc. So you end up with certain apps not being able to access roughly 4 gigs of onboard storage.
The sdcard is seperate and handled correctly.
What the idea is here is to get the "phone storage" size to be the whole emmc and not just.92Gb(some limitation of android/CM7?). So you would end up when you look at the storage option in CM with Internal storage reading something like 4.9 gig instead of .92 gig and have no mount point at /mnt/emmc. All apps should be able to see the full capacity of the EMMC card and the external SD card this way.
Edit: sorry if I seem to ave threadjacked you electrikjesus. You just asked a VERY good question.
I would be happy even if there was a nice way to mount the emmc as /sdcard and then mount the actual external sd card as /sdcard/external_sd, similar to how my Captivate handles is. This would at least allow both to be access by all applications, and not just those few that will allow you to access parts of the filesystem besides /sdcard. Is there any reason fstab couldn't be modified to this?
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No, no. If you look at the way that CM7 uses the EMMC card on board it "splits" it into storage(the way a phone sees it in android) and a mount point that is like an SD card. The problem with this is that some apps are poorly written and can't see that mount point at /mnt/emmc. So you end up with certain apps not being able to access roughly 4 gigs of onboard storage.
The sdcard is seperate and handled correctly.
What the idea is here is to get the "phone storage" size to be the whole emmc and not just.92Gb(some limitation of android/CM7?). So you would end up when you look at the storage option in CM with Internal storage reading something like 4.9 gig instead of .92 gig and have no mount point at /mnt/emmc. All apps should be able to see the full capacity of the EMMC card and the external SD card this way.
Edit: sorry if I seem to ave threadjacked you electrikjesus. You just asked a VERY good question.
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I figured that you all would pretty much take it from here You know exactly what I was asking. Currently EMMC is a huge waste of usable space even if I resize it for DualBoot, I still have a good 2gb left over that could be used to increase the internal storage of my Daily CM7. I use the DB for honeycomb tests.
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Yep, I understand it perfectly...just never would have thought of actually asking about it
anywho...heres hoping that one of the devs or someone with some knowledge of the subject will chime in.
bump bumpty bump. Did we get lost in the 1.2 flood or what?
Really would like to see this happen as well, as it's kind of silly to have such a low amt of space for Apps and then a bunch of space kind of hidden that some may never even know about.
couldnt agree more - bumping my apps to the sdcard is a pain - Id like to have that unwasted /emmc 5 gig slice for something..
I have been looking everywhere to find an answer to this very question. Would love that extra space for apps and what not.
I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
12paq said:
I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
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12paq, this is exactly how I want to roll....I want my music on the 5Gb EMMC partition. I have PowerAmp already loaded. What is the best way to transfer my music from my PC to the EMCC of my NC?
EDIT: Nvm....figured it out...easier than I originally thought.
12paq said:
I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
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Nope..you are both getting and missing the point. What if I want to store epubs there and my reader app of choice can't see anything but the "internal" storage or SD card. That's roughly 4 gigs of unusable space for me then. It would seem to me that from a compatability standpoint, getting all this to be seen as "internal storage" would be optimal.
Some apps just can't see that mount point, mostly those that were designed with typical phone setups in mind.
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I understand what you're saying... maybe we could start a bounty for resizing emmc for more app storage?
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SD file system support (aka none) - Xperia T

So, I just got myself a 64GB MicroSDXC from SanDisk to use in my Xperia T as storage for some movies. I planned on formatting it in EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 or EXFAT so I can store files bigger than 4GB on this.
But... turns out the Xperia T won't read anything but FAT32. I can use the full capacity just fine and it works perfectly, but you're stuck if you want to load anything bigger than 4GB since FAT32 can't handle it.
Sort of sucks.
Ambroos said:
So, I just got myself a 64GB MicroSDXC from SanDisk to use in my Xperia T as storage for some movies. I planned on formatting it in EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 or EXFAT so I can store files bigger than 4GB on this.
But... turns out the Xperia T won't read anything but FAT32. I can use the full capacity just fine and it works perfectly, but you're stuck if you want to load anything bigger than 4GB since FAT32 can't handle it.
Sort of sucks.
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It should be able to read them.
Just borrow someones galaxy to format your sd card to ext 4 and try that. It should work.
I thought the Xperia T can support microsd up to 32gb
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cf.wu said:
I thought the Xperia T can support microsd up to 32gb
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No, it will support more.
Many people have reported this on these forums
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It should be able to read them.
Just borrow someones galaxy to format your sd card to ext 4 and try that. It should work.
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I used GParted in Linux to format the card from my PC, no dice. I tried EXT2, EXT3, EXT4, NTFS and exFAT. Nothing works. Tried hotplugging and rebooting with the card inserted.
I'm pretty sure the kernel only supports mounting FAT32 SD cards. With FAT32 everything is fine, you can use the full capacity and everything and the phone nicely formats it for you, but I can't live with the 4GB file size limit. Or well, not for the price I paid for the card.
I'm returning the card, doesn't really matter to me, but I absolutely don't get why Sony doesn't implement at least the EXT2/3/4 they use for the internal file system. It's baked into the kernel for sure but it just refuses to mount the SD card with it.
There are init.d scripts that will enable it, and I am sure there is a custom kernel that does enable it.
However, with 4.1 coming in q1 2013 you may want to hang onto that card....
gregbradley said:
There are init.d scripts that will enable it, and I am sure there is a custom kernel that does enable it.
However, with 4.1 coming in q1 2013 you may want to hang onto that card....
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I really don't want to unlock my bootloader or root my phone...
I'm selling the card now, I got it online for way below what they go for in Belgium so I'm actually making a profit anyway. Not that I'm doing it for that, but when I want to I can just get another one around that time (but then I'll test with another card beforehand).
Why are you not for rooting your phone. I'm trying to way up if it's worth doing. And there's also the risk of my tech ability. I would say I'm a rank amateur in the tech department. Any opinions on where I can go to start learning. I have Xperia lt30p. Gratitude to anyone who points me in the right direction.
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kympton said:
Why are you not for rooting your phone. I'm trying to way up if it's worth doing. And there's also the risk of my tech ability. I would say I'm a rank amateur in the tech department. Any opinions on where I can go to start learning. I have Xperia lt30p. Gratitude to anyone who points me in the right direction.
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I've rooted tons of phones before, I'm a software development student and an extreme Android geek, but I like the safe, walled garden I'm in right now. I like what Sony has done with Android and want to keep as much of it intact to be honest.
I've rooted my own phones before too, but I felt I really spent too much time messing with it after doing those things, always tweaking things that really didn't do anything but offer placebo effects. I like not having to worry about that stuff.
And I don't want to risk any sort of warranty loss.
That's exactly what has been holding me back. If I was to root it I don't have any dev skills so would probably end up doing exactly what you explained. Just tweaking for tweaking's sake. But I do want to start understanding what's being said in forums. Some of it goes way over my head. I would like to test the limits of my Xperia t but am a little unsure where to start. How do you feel the Xperia t holds up in the top ranks of smartphones. This is my first Sony smart and I'm fairly happy so far.
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Start by reading the all in one thread in the Q&A section.
You will not void any warranty by rooting as you can always revert back to factory settings by flashing a stock ftf and no one will know.
Furthermore you can do more than just placebo tweaks, like remove bloatware and change the look of your phone by adding new systemui.apk mods. Take a look in the theme and app section
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Ambroos said:
So, I just got myself a 64GB MicroSDXC from SanDisk to use in my Xperia T as storage for some movies. I planned on formatting it in EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 or EXFAT so I can store files bigger than 4GB on this.
But... turns out the Xperia T won't read anything but FAT32. I can use the full capacity just fine and it works perfectly, but you're stuck if you want to load anything bigger than 4GB since FAT32 can't handle it.
Sort of sucks.
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You had the same idea as me. I purchased a MicroSD card today, although it was only 8GB. I can confirm that anything other than Fat32 is not readable by the Xperia T running stock ICS.
I'm splitting the HD movies into two parts as a short-term workaround.
Further to the above, I can confirm that splitting the movie files using Split and Concat on a Mac (or Hjsplit on Windows), produces files which play fine in VLC player and MX player. The downside is that you have to navigate to the file using a file browser, for example, Astro and select play as video file and select your choice of player.
Not a very elegant solution, but allows Fat32 to be used and movie files larger than 4GB to be transferred and played.
Hope this helps!
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I can confirm that anything other than Fat32 is not readable by the Xperia T running stock ICS.
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Wrong! I've got an EXT3/4 formatted 64gb card in my Xperia T and have about 45gb of data on it at the mo, and all of which is accessible. As Greg has already suggested, and I formatted mine using a Samsung Galaxy Note, but you could probably use any latest generation Galaxy!
There are at least 2 other threads discussing this (SD capacity and format). People really should use the search function - and they are probably in the Q & A thread.
Oh and I'm stock ROM, with nothing unlocked.
emuX said:
Wrong! I've got an EXT3/4 formatted 64gb card in my Xperia T and have about 45gb of data on it at the mo, and all of which is accessible. As Greg has already suggested, and I formatted mine using a Samsung Galaxy Note, but you could probably use any latest generation Galaxy!
There are at least 2 other threads discussing this (SD capacity and format). People really should use the search function - and they are probably in the Q & A thread.
Oh and I'm stock ROM, with nothing unlocked.
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Are you sure it's ext3/ext4? Can you put files over 4GB on your SD? I formatted the card directly from GParted on my PC and tried about every file system there is and really only FAT32 was recognized.
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Are you sure it's ext3/ext4? Can you put files over 4GB on your SD? I formatted the card directly from GParted on my PC and tried about every file system there is and really only FAT32 was recognized.
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Not absolutely sure but I had to use an ext3/4 mounting tool to get readonly access when I inserted the card directly into my Windows PC. (not being able to get read/write access I tend to just connect the phone to the PC these days though.)
I've got a couple of > 4gb movies on the card and they seem to be playing fine.
Hi everyone! Has someone tried the xperia z with a 32 card with exFAT or ex# (no fat32 file system) and work with files bigger than 4 gb? It is most important for me to handle this file size. Thanks!
brau__lio said:
Hi everyone! Has someone tried the xperia z with a 32 card with exFAT or ex# (no fat32 file system) and work with files bigger than 4 gb? It is most important for me to handle this file size. Thanks!
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This is the Xperia T/TL/TX/V-section. The Z is discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2083
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This is the Xperia T/TL/TX/V-section. The Z is discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2083
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Sorry, I meant Xperia T. Thanks!

Hints & tips please.

Hey guys, after getting my s7 i got myself a Galaxy tab E for work, edit word docs, read e-mails, excel and media... the issue is, it only has 8gb of internal storage. I have been away from rooting and moding for a year now and i see this is not a popular device, still i would like to make make my 32gb sd card part of the internal storage. I will root the tab, but i need a way to have more internal storage as i have many apps and this sd card won't leave the device, can anybody help please?
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Dedzdedz said:
Hey guys, after getting my s7 i got myself a Galaxy tab E for work, edit word docs, read e-mails, excel and media... the issue is, it only has 8gb of internal storage. I have been away from rooting and moding for a year now and i see this is not a popular device, still i would like to make make my 32gb sd card part of the internal storage. I will root the tab, but i need a way to have more internal storage as i have many apps and this sd card won't leave the device, can anybody help please?
GOOD DAY TO YOU ALL
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Have a look at roehsoft ram expander, it also has a program to proof is it would run on your device.
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Have a look at roehsoft ram expander, it also has a program to proof is it would run on your device.
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Isn't that supposed to expand virtual memory? Because all i want is to make the sd card part of the internal storage.

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