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VOiPover3G for Android????

There is an iPhone 3G app called VOiPover3G that tricks other iPhone apps into thinking that they are on Wi-Fi even though they are on 3G/EDGE/GPRS.
Is anything like this being looked at/developed for Android phones??

Please post questions about apps in the correct subforum. This will probably get locked...

This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?

JaboJG said:
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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It would allow programs like sipdroid (the market version) to think it was on wifi and when we finally get something like Fring for Android that would also be able to use the data package to make voip calls, even "real" skype calls.

It is in the wrong part of the forum, but I might as well answer it...
While the iPhone doesn't allow certain services over 3G (e.g. VoIP stuff), the current Android handsets + apps don't do such a thing.
e.g. Sipdroid works fine over edge/umts/wifi (as good as those networks can support VoIP).
It's really kind of a strange question to be honest. If there isn't a problem, don't ask questions about it

JaboJG said:
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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Not to harp on the point made by Diceman4, but it really isn't the correct sub-forum. If you look at the Stickies in the Apps/Games sub-forum, you will see that one of them is regarding request/ideas for applications.

JaboJG said:
This forum is for dev including apps dev.
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I don't see any development going on in the first post though. This seems more like a post for the "ideas for apps" thread in app subforum. Although if the op came back with a chunk of code that needed debugging, that would be a different story.

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The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know

robiom said:
The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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Why? a better bet would be to ask the sipdroid creator to include a user configurable port setting. The point of android is that the workarounds don't need to be workarounds on the phone, but rather workrounds for interfacing with the network.

robiom said:
The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.

jashsu said:
The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.
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If you use pbxes there are a handful of different ports that will work but I haven't been able to get any to work. Saying that, up till recently I was using Gizmo5 but pbxes have blocked it's use after they (Gizmo5) allegedly stole/used sipdroid code and renamed it as if it was there own.
If any one has had success with sipdroid on 3g etc on t-mob UK please post the sip provider and the settings used.

Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/

turboyo said:
Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/
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Been there, done that, even got the T-shirt.
The problem is T-mob in the UK are a pain in the neck and are blocking the port 5060.
As someone has already mentioned in this thread, what is needed is a user configurable port so that T-mob UK can't block.
Let's hope sipdroid developers can do something along those lines.

I don't get it... have you tried all the alternative ports listed in pbxes website?
53, 69, 80, 135, 161, 443, 500, 1433, 1701, 1812, 3389, 4500, 5061, 5900, 16999, 26999 and
36999 (recommended)
Note:
Because of the DNS entries for pbxes.org your device may be selecting port 5060 automatically. If you want to use an alternative port enter 188.40.65.148 as SIP server.
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Both of them work as UDP or TCP.
TCP is recommended as it will help with battery life.
If none of these ports work, then It has to be that T-mobile has a Layer 7 filter in place looking for the SIP signaling traffic, and there should be no workaround possible unless you can wrap your sip traffic in a VPN. Nothing can be done to stop that, unless they filter the whole L2TP,PPTP,IPSEC or OpenVPN protocols.

I have tried most if not all of the ports specified and still no joy BUT I'll give it another go. What SIP provider do you use?
If T-mob are killing all SIP traffic how is it possible to use sipdriod over VPN?? Surely that is a major undertaking?
If it was done though, it would be the most robust and bulletproof VOIP app and would never be stopped Brilliant

I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.

robiom said:
I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.
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Changing phones WILL NOT work since it isn't the phone that is causing the problem, it is the provider.
VPN should be fine, but you'll need a VPN server somewhere to connect through, i.e., your home computer.

There is nothing a carrier can do to block SIP over VPN. Everything is tunneled over the VPN connection so they can't know what goes in there.
As soon as we have a reliable VPN service (Donut seems to have PPTP or L2TP, although I'd love to see OpenVPN there) , you'll ve able to set-up your own voip and vpn server and pipe all the voice through it.
There is a couple of VoIP providers who can do that for you. One that comes to mind is callwithus.
On the connection issue with t-mobile, I suggest you try this:
If you have a DMZ linux/cygwin (altough a windows box might make it) host or a shell anywhere you can test if your provider is locking those ports, the pbxes ip or maybe even the SIP traffic.
Listen in a port using netcat:
netcat -n -l -vvvv 5060
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Launch the Terminal Emulator in your android phone and test if you can connect to your host:
nc <your_hostname> 5060
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Type something... if you can see the text, they have a L7 filter in place.
If you can't see anything, they are blocking the port.
Now change the listening port to 36999 for instance.
Try to connect again. It should work.
Now in Sipdroid, add your hostname, give it any username, any password, use the 36999 port and select TCP connection and keep the netcat running on your listening host.
If you see a connection in your listening host and some signalling traffic, pbxes should work for you.
If you don't, then there's a really advance L7 filter between you and the internet and they can block anything they want to.
In this case, the only solution (and there's nothing they can do unless they also block it), is to use a VPN.

Thanks guys for all your suggestions. I'll try and go through all the procedures you've suggested stickman and I'll post the results

FROYO and Exchange security not really there yet

Hello,
i am running Froyo on my nexus one.
When configuring a new Exchange support, i get:
""SETUP COULD NOT FINISH.
This server requires security features your phone does not support""
Touchdown is working fine and reports the following securities features:
Allow simple password
Password/PIN required
Failed attempts 10
Min length 5
Min Complex 3
Timeout 1800 sec.
Password recovery
So the question are:
1) Which of this securities is not yet implemented natively in froyo?
2) Will it make it in the final froyo release?
If any of you has some inputs, it would be nice to share.
Thanks in advance!
Best
dico

Sorry I cannot help with your problem other than to say that I have exactly the same issue. I am really shocked that Google have not got this fully working. We are hardly talking about a new protocol here!
Whilst I have Touchdown and have done since moving to Android last year, this single problem has stopped my company giving everyone Android phones. Come on Google, get it sorted!

Maybe because the foryo we got is not final? Ever thought of a unfinisched product that you use, is not finisched?

jaapschaap said:
Maybe because the foryo we got is not final? Ever thought of a unfinisched product that you use, is not finisched?
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I think the point is that proper exchange support should really have been there from day one.
You just don't build a serious, high end smart phone with out proper integration to corporate mail (read exchange ).
Unless you're Google apparently.

badomen said:
I think the point is that proper exchange support should really have been there from day one.
You just don't build a serious, high end smart phone with out proper integration to corporate mail (read exchange ).
Unless you're Google apparently.
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Well, I work and live in the corporate world and use my phone as such a device. I guess I sort of agree with you there about the exchange support, I can't really legitimize why they didn't incorporate this almost-brainless sync method.
Does the security policy of your works exchange server require to have a screen lock pin, specifically mobile device security policies? I noticed, after wiping from Froyo(with screen lock pin prior to EX acct) to CM and then back to Froyo(no screen lock when configuring), that I received an error that setup could not finish, I assume this is because without having a screen lock policy set up on the phone the exchange server will not authenticate to my device. Check that out. Also, this is not a finalized product.

Mine works fine...and I manage the Exchange system here...no problems.
My biggest issue is that Google has provided half-ass support for Exchange, and this version is no different.
You can't even move an item to another folder from the inbox with the stock Froyo.
The Desire Rom has the functionality and ability, best interface and options compared to the stock Android.
The stock Rom sucks honestly...if it weren't for Desire...I would still have my iPhone, even they figured out, licensed and got working properly the Exchange support 18 months ago. Windows mobile devices have had this for 3-4yrs.

My first post! May as well make it contributory.
It is interested to note that one may need a PIN lock set up first *before* adding an exchange account that requires one... I know I haven't been able to get our 2.2 Nexus One's to connect to our corporate Exchange Server for my girlfriend and I.
Let me go change to a PIN lock and see what happens when I try to add the exchange account...

Yep, no go still. "Unable to open connection to server."
They really need to add a Verbose button to these error messages.

still not working
Hello,
I tried setting up a PIN code before starting up the email application.
Does someone knows where to find the email app log file to see what is not good?
Thanks in advance!
best
CJ

To be honest, I tried using touchdown (which as great as it is, still lacks a lot of features), then tried using the Froyo Email/Calendar apps... Nothing has ever worked smoothly with Exchange + Android. I ended up migrating my email server (luckly it is only a personal email server) to Google Apps, and I have never been so happy with the performance and stability.
It is a tough cookie to swallow, but gmail is much better then Exchange on Android...

Making People think Note is secure!

The company where i work does not let me sync my note to the office outlook server quoting security issues. When i asked them y, this was their reply "As for Galaxy Note, unfortunately that device does not have all the basic security requirements we would want. The most important of them is that the device does not allow a remote wipe on the device or on the SD card.
Therefore, we are unable to let it connect to our infrastructure.
. I know we have remote admin in all Samsung phones and can use it from Samsung Dive site. Is this feature different from the ones available in Iphones (my office allows iphones and BB to sync )

ravi_buz said:
The company where i work does not let me sync my note to the office outlook server quoting security issues. When i asked them y, this was their reply "As for Galaxy Note, unfortunately that device does not have all the basic security requirements we would want. The most important of them is that the device does not allow a remote wipe on the device or on the SD card.
Therefore, we are unable to let it connect to our infrastructure.
. I know we have remote admin in all Samsung phones and can use it from Samsung Dive site. Is this feature different from the ones available in Iphones (my office allows iphones and BB to sync )
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Tell your IT guys to get the Good application supported from the market. The ratings of it are bad in market but it works anyways. My company uses it for Android devices which are stock (non rooted). Good app allows the office data to be remote wiped and can even wipe the whole device in case it is lost.
Hope this helps!

I think Samsung Dive provides everything you could want. Alternatively install an antivirus on it - such as Lookout. The premium version will also provide full wipe and disable features.
Do your IT staff know much about Android phones?

This being an mnc they compare the phones to the us version and deny support saying that it sites not meet the required security features. This is so irritating, they won't even let us sync the mail.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

If they are using Exchange server it will remote an device that connects to it. I don't know about lotus note/domino server tho. Do you know which mail server your work has?

your it dept are twits...they really need to educate themselves better...

kawgirlval69 said:
your it dept are twits...they really need to educate themselves better...
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As a corporate email admin i totally agree!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

+1 to all the above...
If they're looking for some noted security, Norton mobile (although not the highest signature detection) has full remote wiping services.
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We also use the Good for enterprise application here on Android and iOS devices (around 300 of them). It works pretty well.
Android will also sync to an Exchange server via Activesync which should be an encrypted connection, and data can be remote-wiped either by an admin or by the user via OWA. They can also enforce a lock key via a certificate installation.
They are either lazy, incompetent or both. Although, Blackberries _are_ more secure than either an Android or iOS device as the Exchange support is ingrained in the OS rather than as a separate layer.

Get Touchdown from the Market. It respects the Exchange security policies in app, which is really all the Exchange admins need worry about. Upside is that if a wipe command is sent, only Touchdown gets nuked, not your whole phone.
Why the Exchange admins should care about the whole phone is beyond me. Worry about a bad guy running around with corporate data on the device.

None of them think. When i send them the details on how android is also safe they simply forward it to another person. So frustrating.

where do u work if u dont mind telling me. Because im working as Blackberry Support for few company.

[Q] Rooted chromecast and beta tester program

I have an issue accessing to a beta tester program with a rooted Chromecast. I'm not sure if this is the expected behavior, for this reason I'm asking here.
First I want to expose the current escenario.
A few days ago a spanish web aplication es.wuaki.tv started a promotion with a Chromecast involved. The objective was to participate like a beta tester in the service. It's possible to acces to the service via browser (chrome extension) or with a native android aplication. The right app version is only accesible after registering like a beta tester. For no compatible devices there is a link to the apk file (no external link allowed).
They (the technical support from wuaki.tv) say that the chromecast that they shipped with the promotion is registered for accessing to service.
There's a option to register a chromecast that was no shipped by they. In this case you have to send the chromecast's serial number and activate the "send serial number for updates" checkbox in chromecast configuration.
And now, the problem.
I have an Chromecast imported from USA. It's rooted and I have installed the last Eureka room.
I have made all the steps. I have verified with the technical support that my serial number was registered and correct.
But I can't make it works. Neither with the android app or the chrome extension. The cast button it's not showed.
I have changed the settings for rooted chromecast to 'defaults'. That is:
* Google Whitelist
* Google DNS
I have played other configs (I believe that ALL the possible configs) without success.
My thoughts.
I expected to find some reference to the service in the google whitelist, but I didn't see anything in the next files
From Google:
http://click.xda-developers.com/api...clients3.google.com/cast/chr...ice/baseconfig
http://click.xda-developers.com/api...clients3.google.com/cast/chr.../device/config
From Eureka:
http://click.xda-developers.com/api...rs&txt=http://pwl.team-eureka.com/applist.php
In the source code from webpage, pe:
Code:
view-source:https://es.wuaki.tv/movies/la-vida-secreta-de-walter-mitty
you can find:
Code:
<script src='https://www.gstatic.com/cv/js/sender/v1/cast_sender.js' type='text/javascript'></script>
<script>
//<![CDATA[
window.LaunchCastData = {
appid: "D383FA1E",
hasSelectedStream: false,
listStreamsUrl: "https://api.wuaki.tv/movies/4607",
reqParams: {
auth_token: "WM6qW3y1hM5xnRvyWDAq",
device: 'cast'
},
selectedStream: {}
}
//]]>
</script>
I think that, in my case, the whitelisting proccess works for individual chromecast (with the S/N) and maybe this is the reason that I can't find references to aplication in the whitelist files. I don't know.
But, finally, the question that I want to make is:
it's possible to access to that kind of 'beta tester' program with a rooted Chromecast?
Thanks in advance.
PD: sorry, I can't post external links (new user limitation)

The reason your device is unable to pull the configuration is because when using Eureka-ROM, your serial # is not sent to our server, or googles, when set as the whitelist as we use a backend application to do the calls. If you need to use your device to testing applications, I recommend flashing our rooted stock ROM we offer at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2638103 as it does not modify the way whitelists are pushed to the device.
I will look into supporting this though in Eureka-ROM when the Whitelist provider is set to google, and hopefully I can get it ready for the next ROM release.

ddggttff3 said:
The reason your device is unable to pull the configuration is because when using Eureka-ROM, your serial # is not sent to our server, or googles, when set as the whitelist as we use a backend application to do the calls. If you need to use your device to testing applications, I recommend flashing our rooted stock ROM we offer at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2638103 as it does not modify the way whitelists are pushed to the device.
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Thank you very much for your answer. I had thought a lot of possibilities, but I had not considered the most obvious one: a rooted chromecast will not send his S/N.
I'll take a look at that rooted ROM, but since I do not have the right wires, I think for now keep the current ROM.
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I will look into supporting this though in Eureka-ROM when the Whitelist provider is set to google, and hopefully I can get it ready for the next ROM release.
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Thank you very much for taking into consideration my case. It would be nice to have the option.
And, now that you mention, do you have planned out a new version? Or are you referring to the next official version?
Thanks for solving my doubt.

javicalle said:
Thank you very much for taking into consideration my case. It would be nice to have the option.
And, now that you mention, do you have planned out a new version? Or are you referring to the next official version?
Thanks for solving my doubt.
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I am referring to the next official update to Eureka-ROM, which I do not have an ETA for. We normally only rollout updates when things break, or theres a new feature that's worth an update. There may be a minor update in the near future though, so I will see if I can get this added.
tl;dr it all varies, and depends on what else is getting updated.

Thanks to @Kyonz, the next OTA will allow for you to use your device as a development device!

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Thanks to @Kyonz, the next OTA will allow for you to use your device as a development device!
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GREAT NEWS!!!
Thanks to both of you for taking care of 'suggestions'.

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GREAT NEWS!!!
Thanks to both of you for taking care of 'suggestions'.
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No problem, this is something we overlooked when creating the whitelist generation and it's important to us that we support features existing and that you benefit from having a rooted device!

[INFO] How to enable mail-encryption

Hi mates.
I've switched from note 3 (greatest phone I've ever bought) to note 8 and I'm encountering a problem with the email configuration.
Actually, on the email application of note 3 I was able to add a personal PGP certificate for signing an email (or even deciphering emails from my contacts). The current Samsung email application seems to not have such feature... can you confirm this to me?
It's about to be weird, since they are spotting the encryption feature into the app description on the play store. Thanks

Interesting. I did a quick test just now and found the same.
The option exists to manually import a series of certificates but that's where it ends.
However, according to the Knox Workspace 2.9 IT Admin Guide, it appears that Samsung wants you to have Knox enabled first and use their default mail client for S/MIME or PGP to be an option.
See here:
https://docs.samsungknox.com/KNOX-Workspace-Admin-Guide/Content/knox-workspace-apps.htm
I'd test further but I've rooted my device so I have no access to Knox.
As a workaround, you could convert PGP to PKCS12 and try to import. Alternately, there appears to be some PGP-compatible apps on the PlayStore.
Good luck!

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Interesting. I did a quick test just now and found the same.
The option exists to manually import a series of certificates but that's where it ends.
However, according to the Knox Workspace 2.9 IT Admin Guide, it appears that Samsung wants you to have Knox enabled first and use their default mail client for S/MIME or PGP to be an option.
See here:
https://docs.samsungknox.com/KNOX-Workspace-Admin-Guide/Content/knox-workspace-apps.htm
I'd test further but I've rooted my device so I have no access to Knox.
As a workaround, you could convert PGP to PKCS12 and try to import. Alternately, there appears to be some PGP-compatible apps on the PlayStore.
Good luck!
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Many thanks!
Well... Samsung My Knox has been replaced by Personal Area and even if I configure an e-mail account inside it, the email application doesn't show the "advance" security options.
That's makes me vary mad...

Thank you for pointing that out. I had forgot that 'My Knox' had been retired.
I was pouring through their white papers and what not, and I'm thinking this must've been a business strategy; give consumers a moderate level of security via 'Secure Folders' and leave more advanced features for enterprise environments via 'Knox Workspace'.
See this:
https://docs.samsungknox.com/KNOX-Workspace-Admin-Guide/Content/knox-workspace-apps.htm
The options exists for those utilizing 'Knox Workspace'; even outlines full instructions.

Bearing in mind the samsung side-definition of what a Knox-workspace is, such a feature should be enable even inside the personal area. Idk how can I signaling this to samsung, it seems very weird to me...
Anyway, you gave me material for getting useful information for reporting that to the assistance, at least. Thank you

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Bearing in mind the samsung side-definition of what a Knox-workspace is, such a feature should be enable even inside the personal area. Idk how can I signaling this to samsung, it seems very weird to me...
Anyway, you gave me material for getting useful information for reporting that to the assistance, at least. Thank you
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No problem. Happy to help.
I've also reached out to Samsung myself to inquire further:
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/contact
Hopefully we can come up with a definitive reasoning.

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@DarkIaspis
I have been communicating with Samsung since the start of this thread.
Today they confirmed that PGP was removed, as evidenced by this thread, and only S/MIME will be supported.
I have included a screenshot but have removed any personal details about myself and the contact at Samsung.

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@DarkIaspis
I have been communicating with Samsung since the start of this thread.
Today they confirmed that PGP was removed, as evidenced by this thread, and only S/MIME will be supported.
I have included a screenshot but have removed any personal details about myself and the contact at Samsung.
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Hi Darklaspis
Were you able to make it work? I've tried everything but couldn't find a way to encrypt my mail from samsung mail app.
Is there any way you can helpme please?