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here's the story: my Tytn II was running fine for some months
one day I was travelling and need to use the GPS until there was just around 8% battery level
then everything started to get slow (GPS map couldn't even redraw)
ok, I though it was in some "slow-clock mode" to preserve battery
then I reseted it and, when I came synced it at home, ActiveSync said it couldn't sync (don't remember why) and it would have to send all the information again
but it was taking forever, so I stopped it and did it again later, when it said it was success
I then noticed my speed dial numbers had been lost, but that's not a big problem
the biggest problem here is that for the last 5 days my Tytn is slowing down very often (like 5 minutes after I reset it), even after I removed all startup programs!
What I'm noticing:
1) GPS maps doesn't redraw (I waited more than 2 minutes... it should take like 1 second)
2) Freecell cards are animating very slow after a completed level
3) touchscreen responsiveness is slow
4) I have TodayAgenda... after I change the date of a calendar item, it doesn't get displayed in the new day (just if I reboot)
5 and probably most important) mstli.exe is using 80 to 98% CPU
any hints?
Lem0nHead said:
here's the story: my Tytn II was running fine for some months
one day I was travelling and need to use the GPS until there was just around 8% battery level
then everything started to get slow (GPS map couldn't even redraw)
ok, I though it was in some "slow-clock mode" to preserve battery
then I reseted it and, when I came synced it at home, ActiveSync said it couldn't sync (don't remember why) and it would have to send all the information again
but it was taking forever, so I stopped it and did it again later, when it said it was success
I then noticed my speed dial numbers had been lost, but that's not a big problem
the biggest problem here is that for the last 5 days my Tytn is slowing down very often (like 5 minutes after I reset it), even after I removed all startup programs!
What I'm noticing:
1) GPS maps doesn't redraw (I waited more than 2 minutes... it should take like 1 second)
2) Freecell cards are animating very slow after a completed level
3) touchscreen responsiveness is slow
4) I have TodayAgenda... after I change the date of a calendar item, it doesn't get displayed in the new day (just if I reboot)
5 and probably most important) mstli.exe is using 80 to 98% CPU
any hints?
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What rom are u using? Sometimes its good to make a hardreset.
Mikulec said:
What rom are u using? Sometimes its good to make a hardreset.
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I'm using L26
Since I didn't change anything else, not installing/uninstalling programs and so on, I don't like the hardreset idea (there's a lot of work to set everything back again )
Lem0nHead said:
I'm using L26
Since I didn't change anything else, not installing/uninstalling programs and so on, I don't like the hardreset idea (there's a lot of work to set everything back again )
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There's often alot more work in diagnosing exactly what the cause is. If you haven't installed anything else then a hard reset (not a reflash) isn't to much work and it gives you the opportunity to progressively reinstal and test any additional software you do use. When you find the app that when installed or configured/used causes the slowdown, then you've found the culprit. Major slowdowns don't just happen out of the blue without changes to the software unless it's due to hardware failure and a hard reset will quickly pick up that sort of issue.
By all means wait to see if others with the same setup have experienced the same issue and if so what they did to solve it but I suspect you'd have it fixed sooner, going down the hard reset route.
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There's often alot more work in diagnosing exactly what the cause is. If you haven't installed anything else then a hard reset (not a reflash) isn't to much work and it gives you the opportunity to progressively reinstal and test any additional software you do use. When you find the app that when installed or configured/used causes the slowdown, then you've found the culprit. Major slowdowns don't just happen out of the blue without changes to the software unless it's due to hardware failure and a hard reset will quickly pick up that sort of issue.
By all means wait to see if others with the same setup have experienced the same issue and if so what they did to solve it but I suspect you'd have it fixed sooner, going down the hard reset route.
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I couldnt say it better. I flash and hardreset my phone very often, its a little bit painfull but u will get used to it.
Do not be afraid of the hardreset.
just letting you know I remembered in this same day I had the battery problem, I changed a setting on IP Dashboard (configuring it to keep max 500 KBs history)
I now removed IP Dashboard the problem stopped
will try some other program later, or the old config
thanks
alright it is with great pain that i am writing this, but i really need some help here. for months i've read the forums, searched for answers, asked little individual questions, IMed with people directly for help... and i'm still having trouble.
i rooted my T-Mobile G1 all the way back when cupcake first came out. everything was great. life was grand. everything ruled. i was a happy android fanboy, talking friends into switching to android, talking crap about iphones... the works... but slowly things started getting slower and slower and slower...
the obvious thing was to wipe and reflash. i was constantly just updating to newer cyanogen roms at that point without wiping. so i wiped to the newest cyanogen at the time (can't remember at this point, but just picture it was like a couple months after cupcake). so things were good again for a little bit, but then it started slowing down again, getting FC's, etc. so a friend recommended i switch to superD... i did, and again, everything was great for a while. i consistently upgraded superD roms (sometimes wiping in between sometimes not). eventually i got to the point where i was on the most recent superD release. it lasted about a day before things started slowing down. examples include when i hit home to exit an application and go to the home screen, the whole screen would either turn black or just show my wallpaper for a good 5 seconds before my home screen would appear, or opening the browser would take like 10 seconds. lots of slow down.
so with the help of a friend i decided to completely wipe and reformat/repartition my sd card. i bought titanium backup but i didn't even bother with it, i said to myself, look, you barely use any of the stuff you have right now, how about just start fresh and reinstall things as you need them manually. so i formatted, repartitioned (using amon Ra's recovery, using the menu option that helps you do it automatically). i made sure i had the most recent radio and spl (this was just a couple months ago), and reflashed the most recent superD (i think its 1.11 if i remember correctly)... again, maybe one day of good performance before everything slowed down. this was also about the time when my battery life started becoming an issue. i'm not exaggerating when i say i couldn't make it home without breaking under 20% battery by the end of the day... and i really don't use my phone THAT much. i'd say i'm a little above average on my usage. i'll get into my widgets and apps in a second, but i really don't use that much stuff...
SO... continuing my story (thanks for sticking with me if you're still reading...). when cyanogens 2.1 for the g1 rom came out (5.0.8d/s) i decided it was time for a change. i reformatted AGAIN, repartioned AGAIN, and flashed 5.0.8. basically, i've got the same story going on. slowdowns, poor battery life, etc.
so here i am with my cyanogen 5.0.8 flashed g1. let me tell you about apps and widgets and stuff. right now i have a regular wallpaper (not live), 14 icons between my 5 screens and just the google search and power management widgets. i used to have calwidget, the genie widget (both news and weather), and the setcpu widgets too, but i decided to take them off to see if it would help with performance. zero help. apps that i either know for sure are always running or i think may have some impact are twidroyd, newsrob, craigsnotif (craigslist notifier), and dealdroid. i don't think any other apps are running and/or do automatic updates for content and stuff like that.
i also use cachemate (purchased) regularly to clear my caches. apps2sd is enabled.
i'm not sure what other information you'd need to help me out, but just let me know and i'll try to give you more details.
right now, i've got slow down like almost all the time. things are constantly pausing, slowing down. i feel like i'm back on my t-mobile mda with winmo5 haha. and forget about it with the battery. i left the house with 90% battery this morning. i went to the gym. went home. picked up lunch. came to work. its been like 4 hours. i currently have 19% battery. all i've done is make 2 phone calls, about a dozen text messages and i've sent 2 tweets (about my battery problem haha). i also used google maps once to look up a number. my wifi and gps is off.
so there we go. really guys, please please please. help me out if you can. any help would be appreciated. i'm so sick of this. and i'm stuck in contract until july 2011. so i'm not getting a new phone any time soon. i gotta figure this thing out.
i really appreciate your help.
thanks.
Dave
OH... and PS... forgot to mention that I just got a new battery this week thinking maybe the battery was just getting old and bad. obviously, no such luck.
I had the same issues till I flashed a SuperD, then everything was fine. I just recently flashed the Froyo from Cyanogen and its like it fixed everything and I'm on a brand new device (knock on wood)!
How old is your G1? Do we know if there are issues with the first run out of the factory? Is that even an issue?
i got the g1 last july. so it was already out for a while at that point. it was new from a store though. i suppose there could be something actually wrong with the phone itself, but i don't know. i was thinking of trying the cyanogen froyo but because its not a stable release yet i figured it would be just this bad or worse...
I promise cm5.0.8 has wonderful battery life when no custom apps are installed and not on any network..
so the question is what is your phone doing, and ought it be doing what it is doing.
There are some nice built in tools for this
Applications->running services
And
Applications -> manage applications (check out the filter in the menu from that screen)
You may be surprised by the apps the think they need to constantly have a service running for some painful trivial job the android API has better interfaces for.. if in addition to that you don't need the app uninstall it.
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
another example, as i was reading this i was on the phone and i just finished the call and hung up, and i was previously in text messages, it took 12 seconds for my text messages to come up. thats just insane...
as for running services:
- GTalkService <--- I use GTalk all the time
- GenieRefresh Service (Restarting) <--- weird considering I disabled this widget, although I'd LIKE to have it back
- Maps FriendsAppWidgetUpdater (Restarting) <--- never used this in my life
- NewsRob UnreadWidgetProvidor (Restarting) <--- never used the widget before (as a matter of fact, you have to pay to use the widget and i have the free version... weird)
-Twidroyd Background Service <--- understandable, I use this constantly
- AKNotepad Snaptic Update (Restarting) <---- umm... I use this all the time but I don't know why a notepad program would need an updater service running... interesting...
- Swype <---- gotta have that
- CM Updater (Restarting) <--- Don't really think that needs to be on all the time. Can easily manually refresh that...
So that's it. I didn't realize this was included now. Very cool. On older roms I had to use task managers which don't seem to really work. I'm going to stop everything except twidroyd, gtalk and swype right now and see how that does... at the bottom it says Avail: 3.2MB+0.00B in 0 ... Other: 55MB in 4 ... While typing that the Maps FriendsAppWidget just popped back up... I'm gonna see if theres a setting...
In the meantime, does any of this give you any ideas? thank you so much for the advice. Also what does (Restarting) mean?
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Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
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oh and i have compcache not checked and launcher in memory IS checked... i just tried turning on the compcache option... lets see how that goes...
ok so...
now that i know about those things that were running, i stopped all the ones i don't need, and also went into the apps to see if there was any options for turning off automatic updates, background syncing, etc etc for those things... i'm gonna charge my phone while getting ready to go out and then we'll see how it goes throughout the evening. lets see if i make it home with more than 20% battery left (i'll be gone for like 5 hours). if so then we're on to something here still i find it weird that i can't have a few widgets loaded. but whatever, i'll take a smoothly running phone that lasts all day and i just have to click on icons to get to stuff any day... thanks for the help, i'll let you know how its going tomorrow.
the next day
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
so back to square one... any ideas guys?
thanks so much for any help you can give me. i really really appreciate it.
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ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
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Um... The compcache instability scares me a bit
Compcache has had issues (maybe still does) where the first time you enable it the phone crashes.. but then works fine with Compcache on reboot. Otherwise it really ought no make the phone unstable. (it may or may not speed things up depending on how memory is being used.. usually however it allows 12MB of memory that is rarely used to be compressed, allowing a little more active memory to be utilized) You may want to look into wiping dalvik-cache both on the internal memory and SD card:
Enter console and run (this will restart the phone)
Code:
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /cache/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /sd-ext/dalvik-cache/*
reboot
if you get an error about no files found thats not an issue; but other errors may indicate a problem.
This may help system stability (with or without compcache) .. but won't do anything about the battery life (nor speed unless something was seriously wrong)
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Unfortunately you will either need to erase all your apps and just run stock CM5 [maybe slowly restore your apps you really need] -- OR -- be very patient and debug whatever application(s) are causing issues on your phone (and maybe complain to the dev for failing to read/understand google's documentation on how to write android applications.. not that some of the google apps haven't quite figured that out until recently)
Thus again the main question is what is running on your phone.. The places I mentioned before allow you to see the services (most of which usually restart if you run the related application again) but not strictly all the details to look for.
Example 1 An widget service is likely holding onto memory starving timer services (those not listed) and swapping out other services (phone/launcher making everything feel slow) At the same time the widget is not very active usually and may not connect to the internet at all; thus may not reduce battery life.
Example 2 An IM client on the other hand may requires a service to keep TCP/IP connections alive, and if not coded properly may be very persistent and cause a slow continual stream of data from your phone requiring a large amount of power to keep the phone on 2G/Edge.
Example 3 A Task killer an kill tasks that re-spawn, or kill a task in use if it doesn't know better causing things to behave in strange ways.. so can killing services/applications from the setting screens btw.. but at least that is a one off by user decision not a automatic operation in the background. Tasks when re-spawned may require more data from the internet thus more power to 2G/Edge
User: Then the one that causes me the most problems: A user that keeps the phone in his/her pocket rather than surfing the web, checking XDA, or continuously checking the battery level is using the device less thus will have longer battery life. (careful to not fall into this trap)
Other Ideas:
SetCPU: set the sleep CPU low in profiles (sleep for me is 245/160)[/*]
Verify End action: Settings->End Button Behavior->Go to sleep[/*]
Set longer periods between polls in applications that poll the net (example twitter every 10 or 20mins.. not 5)[/*]
Larger net transfers on wifi if available (example tell newsrob to sync on wifi only) wifi drains the battery faster than idle, but is much cheaper if larger amounts of data are involved.[/*]
As you can see many things will impact the system. You will need to find the ones eating your battery
Another helpful screen for debugging this may be Settings->Spare Parts->Battery History and Settings->Spare Parts->Usage Statistics
I get between 4h and 12h batter life under semi-normal conditions. 4h = surfing 3g + tappatalk + games.. 12h check email/tweat if i get one.. otherwise stays in my pocket. I've seen my test phone hang out for days on a 2g network without data. (so you can always set your apn type to mms if you just need it to be a phone for many hours.. mms keeps mms support btw)
Ebuddy (and most other MSN/AIM/ect chat clients is frequently one of the biggest problems on my phone.. so if I need more battery those are the first to go.. and whomever it is can poke me on gtalk/txt/or wait
Good luck in your search.. Took me a while to make cm5 work as long as cm4.. most of it was mis-behaving apps that I either know to shut off when I need longer battery life.. or have found replacements for.. or avoid widget functionality if the widget was misconfigured. (
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Out of the blue my Bionic just started rebooting. 8-10 time per day, who knows how may time at night. I am using the stock ROM. I am looking for a stable ROM that I can use to fix the problem. I also have the problem of disapearing apps that I move to the ext card.
Feedback on possible cures will be welcomed.
I just experienced my first unexpected reboot. It was after plugging in my USB to my computer.
This seems like the sort of thing that would have a 50% chance of being related to your hardware, and a 50% chance of an unstable app screwing something up. The stock software is at least stable enough that it's not very likely to be the cause of your issues, and flashing another ROM (which will have the same kernel) won't help if it is a hardware issue.
A factory reset followed by staggered reinstallation of apps (one or two at a time, to see if one in particular might be causing issues) would be my first step for a problem as extreme as random reboots. The next step is through warranty channels. I might even do that first- I don't think I could put up with a phone that rebooted on me.
And the cure for disappearing apps is to not use media area for storage. The phone dedicates 4gb for apps, that should be more than enough until they patch a fix.
i may have to add that my phone was completely stable until i purchased and installed the extended battery then i started to experience reboots and a few locks here and there.
i did a few factory reset on the stock but the phone was still acting up with the new battery.
i then decided to root and run roms and to be frank no locks and or reboots running the same battery that seemed to be causing the problems based on that being the only change to my phone before the reboot and locks.
i am not saying that there is something there with the stock as there would be more reports on this but rooting and going back to stock is a single click now making it a fast process to trouble shoot the software.
i am experiencing a bad or short life with the extended so in my case it could have been the battery screwing up the reads on the software (guess) but the first 3 charge from full to dead just about 3 days after that same extended only last one day.
in general it seemed that my issue could have been a bad battery and wiping data and playing with roms may had help but in the end i will be calling verizon for a battery replacement as i doubt that in two weeks the battery charge for an extended could only last 1 day of medium use.
sorry long response and by no means i'm i encouraging to root and rom just speaking out of my experience.
Hi - first post here. After 4 Thunderbolts - Verizon sent me a Bionic. Much better however, after rooting with 43v3r and de-bloating with The Black Hat App - I'm having random reboots. Initially, the reboots were several times per day increasing in frequency to several times an hour. Y u c k - My Thunderbolt could do that too.
So in troubleshooting:
1 - I've reverted to stock build - no add'l apps: No reboots in 48 hours. So - I doubt it's hardware.
2- After reverting - I then rooted w/43v3R, then debloated - just using stock apps - no reboots in 24 hours. So, I really doubt it's debloating or rooting
3 - After adding a few apps - Stitcher, Enhanced email, SVOX w/voice, Beautiful Widgets (w/clock selected) - I get a reboot.
4 - Remove everything but stitcher. No reboots - 24 hours.
5 - Add Enhanced Email yesterday
Today, I had a reboot.
6 - So culprit 'looks' like Enhanced Email OR perhaps a switching problem between 3/4g (The Thunderbolt - Stitcher used to drop connection in this particular location so, there IS an issue w/3G-4G.
Questions:
1 - If it's not a 3g/4g issue; could it be related to where Enhanced email or Stitcher chooses to install itself?
2 - Is there a log somewhere where I could find 'boot' times and any issues relating to reboots? Like a 'minidump' in Windows...
thanks
I, too, have started having unexpected reboots. I can't pinpoint it exactly, but I have also recently isntalled Enhanced Email (trial version).
Reboot Logger
Hey Google is our friend - don't know why I didn't look before but I found this in Android Market.
"Reboot Logger" by Watanabe,Masayuki.
Just installed it - will report back after Thanksgiving (in the U.S. - Thursday)...
(I would post a link but I'm a noob here - and, now I know why I hate myself.)
Looks like promising -
Have yall installed any themes or different battery icons, or anything like that to yours? Mine is 43v3R rooted with the liberty romv2. I was changing a cpl of the icons and experienced a reboot just out of the blue. I got rid of the icons I changed and stayed with the icons that came with the liberty rom and have no issues at all. I do not have enhanced mail on mine.
most bionics will turn off and wont turn back on till you do a battery pull. Its a known issue, all you have to do is google it and it turns up. From what ive read putting the battery on performance mode and putting on detect in pocket will help. Personally it doesnt help, i had the issue with the stock battery so purchased a extended thinking it was the battery, but after doing research i found out it isnt. They say the new OTA should fix it
icons - reboot logger
Thanks - haven't changed any icons BUT I am using HTC Thunderbolt wallpaper. I had a Thunderbolt that had a reboot problem until the OTA before Gingerbread - Verizon offered me the Bionic when I called about my Thunderbolt issues (I had three replacements - all with the same issues).
I will try different wallpaper -
Reboot logger works well but doesn't offer a clue as to what is causing the reboots. Mine has rebooted 2-3 times per day since I installed Reboot Logger(RL).
3 times a day is tolerable but, I would like to get to the bottom of what's causing it.
What IS helpful with RL is that it does show that the reboots are not occuring in any obvious time sequence.
They may be related to push emails coming in from my Exchange server. Not sure - I'll post more as I learn more. Hopefully the upcoming OTA will fix - though my experience with HTC's OTAs does not give me a lot of hope.
Update - Last night, I uninstalled Stitcher - Stitcher frequently throws errors requiring a FORCE CLOSE. I also have kept Blueooth off.
No reboots in 24 hours -
Will reinstall Stitcher in the morning (I need it at the gym)...
Update tomorrow/Monday
Turned Bluetooth ON - no reboots in 36 hours so, It looks like Stitcher may be the culprit - I wonder if Stitcher has issue with the internal/external SD storage scheme.
As I noted previously, Stitcher reports 'force closes' frequently - especially when it's not even active (when I have not loaded it or used it).
(No sooner than I posted this - my phone rebooted. And again, and again will switch off BT - I'm in my office so, there's could be an issue with 3g/4g switching or other interference...)
Have you tried setting the phone to run strictly 3g? I have had no issues at all with mine jumping back and forth between 3g/4g.. I leave mine on 3g to keep it from trying to search for a 4g signal. I never turn bluetooth on, nor do I ever really use the compass. hmmmm... Can you tell me everything you have done to the phone. Apps you have installed, what ROM you using, if you have .886/.893 etc? I'm willing to see how close we are as for as how our phone's are setup and help as much as I can. I have not had a single issue with mine other then that one reboot after changing the battery icon.
After nearly two weeks of monitoring restarts - it appears that the problem is more related to where I am. At my home, restarts are rare and related to Stitcher.
At work in Beverly Hills, CA; restarts occur frequently. I assume it has something to do with 3g/4G switchover/crossover or interference.
I had lots of problems with the Thunderbolt dropping data connections in 90210. I could not use the hotspot. On the Bionic, the hotspot functions really well. I've used it up north near Fresno in 3G only land, here in BH and at home where I have decent 4G coverage.
When I remove Stitcher, the reboot problem disappears. Sometimes when I 'wake' the phone, there is a dialog apologizing for Stitcher having 'force closed' even if I haven't used it for days. Market reviews indicate anecdotally that Stitcher has a problem with force closes. This behavior must also be at the root of some of the reboots.
I've also set all programs not to update automatically - this may have reduced the reboots as well. On average, I'm getting 2-3 reboots per day. More than I would like but, tolerable.
Hi all,
Can anyone help with this issue. I can see no long discussion about it which seems to suggest it's either rare (not great) or something I am doing (probably).
My WiFi status appears to be fine throughout the day, when in regular use. I have no speed issues (connection speeds as expected for my home internet), no random drops or on/off switches and no seeming battery drain. I have all additional services on (Bluetooth, location and NFC as I want the phone to be fully functional at all times and not just 'look nice') and despite this I get what I would expect in battery life (c. 6 hrs screen on time). YET, amongst a few other problems (what is the slider customisation about - awful!) the one I can't fathom is this:
My WiFi switches off over night presumably when the phone goes into deep sleep. I have gone into the advanced settings and set it to 'Always on' but this doesn't seem to keep it 'always on'. I wake up in the morning and it is off. I was running some Tasker profiles (which seem to make little difference given the slider issue noted above) but actually my WiFi isn't one off the Tasks effected by a night time profile.
Any help would be appreciated.
AS a secondary question, I switched my VPN over to Canada as suggested and was provided with the Nougat update. I haven't yet tried it but was wondering if there are any bugs that I should consider before switching over given I am 4 days into owning this phone and still haven't ironed out certain things in Marshmallow.
Just as a follow up question, would the 'turn Doze off' option help with this? Surely I shouldn't have to do this though?
Am I the only one having this issue? That would suck. Even so, would anybody more adept at these things than me like to have a guess at solving the issue.
IV had agresive dose mode on and haven't had any wifi problems but I am on 4.0.1 so might want to just update it as it's really stable and I haven't had any issue except having to reconfigure the APN settings. PS if you do update reset you phone after as some people have said it helps with the new file system.
Greedyfly said:
Hi all,
Can anyone help with this issue. I can see no long discussion about it which seems to suggest it's either rare (not great) or something I am doing (probably).
My WiFi status appears to be fine throughout the day, when in regular use. I have no speed issues (connection speeds as expected for my home internet), no random drops or on/off switches and no seeming battery drain. I have all additional services on (Bluetooth, location and NFC as I want the phone to be fully functional at all times and not just 'look nice') and despite this I get what I would expect in battery life (c. 6 hrs screen on time). YET, amongst a few other problems (what is the slider customisation about - awful!) the one I can't fathom is this:
My WiFi switches off over night presumably when the phone goes into deep sleep. I have gone into the advanced settings and set it to 'Always on' but this doesn't seem to keep it 'always on'. I wake up in the morning and it is off. I was running some Tasker profiles (which seem to make little difference given the slider issue noted above) but actually my WiFi isn't one off the Tasks effected by a night time profile.
Any help would be appreciated.
AS a secondary question, I switched my VPN over to Canada as suggested and was provided with the Nougat update. I haven't yet tried it but was wondering if there are any bugs that I should consider before switching over given I am 4 days into owning this phone and still haven't ironed out certain things in Marshmallow.
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This happens when people is crying about updates every day. Then, when the updates are available, they update it in the first minute and again, they start crying, that they encounter bugs and stuff that doesnt work as it should, even if they dont have any idea how to revert their OS to the previous working one. People should learn how to be patient and enjoy their phones without being so greedy about updates.
Just sit tight, enjoy your phone, READ forums about latest updates and the problems encountered on that specific update ( since its still a beta update, and an early one , called Beta 1 ). If they seem to be fine with those issue, ONLY then should update to the latest one.
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This happens when people is crying about updates every day. Then, when the updates are available, they update it in the first minute and again, they start crying, that they encounter bugs and stuff that doesnt work as it should, even if they dont have any idea how to revert their OS to the previous working one. People should learn how to be patient and enjoy their phones without being so greedy about updates.
Just sit tight, enjoy your phone, READ forums about latest updates and the problems encountered on that specific update ( since its still a beta update, and an early one , called Beta 1 ). If they seem to be fine with those issue, ONLY then should update to the latest one.
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I haven't 'cried' about anything, pal, so keep your unhelpful comments to yourself or help. Don't middle ground-it by offering your own personal, and incorrect, opinions.
I hadn't upgraded anything, I was running stock OS and stock marshmallow, so I had literally done nothing to my device other than switch it on and download the same apps I've been using for years.
I've also rooted several devices in the past with no issues and chime in when I can to help, but I'm not a dev and there are far more technologically gifted individuals operating in this forum which is why I sought help here... Not that I got much from you. But I'm more than capable of reading release notes and making sure I can revert backwards before installing anything.
Now to anyone still here, and with the same issue, it appears that carrying out the update to Nougat, re-adding my WiFi networks and clearing system cache solved the problem or at least for the first night. Should this change I'll update here.
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IV had agresive dose mode on and haven't had any wifi problems but I am on 4.0.1 so might want to just update it as it's really stable and I haven't had any issue except having to reconfigure the APN settings. PS if you do update reset you phone after as some people have said it helps with the new file system.
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Hi Iso, thank you for your response, I hadn't seen this until now.
The upgrade to 4.0.1 does appear to have done the trick somewhat as it stayed on overnight without issue. I did notice it wasn't on a little later this morning but I am giving the device the benefit of the doubt on that one as I have been messing about with certain things and it's possible I or a profile in tasker switched it off.
As an aside do you recommend any other potential fixes, just to be on the safe side.
Did you factory reset after upgrading? Other than that it's probably a app you have I hear Facebook is really bad at battery
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Did you factory reset after upgrading? Other than that it's probably a app you have I hear Facebook is really bad at battery
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I didn't factory reset, only Cache wipe after the upgrade, and as it seems ok so far, I am reluctant to factory reset the device as it took so long to set up in the first instance.
Should it start becoming an issue again I'll try it but for now...
Also I know there are backup options though I haven't found one that works flawlessly which gives me the confidence to explore this avenue just yet.
You might have to because in nuogat they optimized the file system and in order to get the new one you have to factory reset not 100% sure it affects battery life but it really affects performance, PS also try turning off gestures, ambient display and pocket mode
ISO_Metric said:
You might have to because in nuogat they optimized the file system and in order to get the new one you have to factory reset not 100% sure it affects battery life but it really affects performance, PS also try turning off gestures, ambient display and pocket mode
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Are you sure ISO? The UI has been updated and the already snappy OS feels snappier. Is there a way to tell for sure if it's required?
If so, any good recommendations for backup capability. I have used Helium to mixed results and I can't use Titanium as I have no root (and don't wish to).
Maybe not but it all elts fails
I got to tell you something....
Since few years, my huawei follows me everywhere ; a P8 Lite given here or there, few years ago ; replacing my old S3 mini (L8190). From his scene or commercial name P8 Lite, or his full name ALE (for ‘Alice’) L21, released in 2015, unlike his older brother, the P8 Lite Prague, released two or three years later, with many differences.
That P8 Lite brought me several issues : touch screen going litterally in failure when the temperature goes over twenty degrees celcius, very fast, then I adopted my first decision from a long serie of precautions a bit abnormal or totally uncommon, regarding a smartphone owner.
Do you remember in James Bond, the scene of Roger Moore, using a camera to aime the necklage of his secretary (in the presence of Q), enjoying to zoom-in, zoom-out on the top of her clothes ? Well, replace the erotism by a screenlock of the huawei, and increase the zoom speed by x1000, and you will have the effect of a huawei in ‘normal/common’ situation, just after being stored in the twenty or thirty degrees celcius of a pocket, in a beautiful summer. Yess ! The screen works very well ; but for the touchscreen, it’s totally f**ked up : this is the first disapointment. The touchscreen is the culprit, to be activated everytime (like if fingers where active on it), even if.. nothing touches the phone. I did a video posted on xda, for the most curious...
For the touchscreen issue while overheating, the only way I found was to remove the rear plastic at the back of the phone itself : it let the electronic chip and battery directly like sticked to the silicon case. I didnt found anything better, but it’s still better than salvage restart the phone, and wait five long minutes (android 6) to get system started and ready.
But the one of my permanently abandon of playstore, and his 500MB demanded to install a 10MB (!!) app, will make me definitely leave google services, on daily life. Wah ! Im among the lefters of gafamnt. Well, it’s okay for me (even better) Going to Lineage (with ggleapps, then, ouf ! Without..) will not bring only better experience, at least not that one..
Since 2020 and the crisis, I start to study with high motivation the mobiles cellphones world : arm plateforms, xda forum (highly better than frenchs ones), theorical lessons and learning, so. Practical side, too : the recovery mode, twrp, then lienage, his ancester cyanogen, etc.. It will take me about a year to be skilled and well understand, at least the advanced/intermediaite level, to understand those devices. But in the meantime, with lienageos, others problems came..the PINlock keyboard, whom freezes one time over ten under lineage, : you ush on the touch of the keyboard to type the code, but it stays as an "animated pushed touch", an nothing reacts anymore on the screen. At all. It will come to my bigger misadventure..
Just to be more accurate : a year after ,I use lienage 14, perfect release for this device : not too recent, so it's not running slow, but not too old, so all my favourites apps runs well. And I use the encryption feature, only available on lineageos (never stock rom, imho), who doesnt permits to the little smartass whom could steal my phone, to do not siphon all my data using the recovery/twrp, whom doesnt care about pin at android lock screen, but not in case of.... encryption. Wise precaution, logical, in 2022, after this rase awareness about cyberdefence, crowned by the symbolic pegasus affair. Last information : my phone is powered off every evening, powered up every morning, since my first smartphone (iphone), and I always did like this ; it's a kind of prudence I have, my alarm clock has always been (and will ever be) on a second classic plastic phone, like old 3310 : two months of autonomy, that's something.
So after those "one more thing" information, the following is more.. crusty.
So in beginning of 2023, after had let my next phone few days away, the time of the official of lineageos 20 ,aka android 13, from AOSP (I didnt wanted to use it immediately, to avoid the export/import data with a clean install of lineageos 20), because it was supposed to be released in 2023, jan or feb (it has been the case, but not official yet)
In january 2023, two weeks before this misadventure happened, I took the precaution to export and import those data to my new smartphone : not with success, some setings where proper to the lineageos 14 release, and failed. As a good half-nerd, I procrastinate. Yes, that happens.
Until that day of January, Im outside, trying to take a picture... a long path of issues, a long descend to technology hell... I get out my phone. I make swiping from right to left, to hand the photo recorder app, as the feature allows it. The bug allows also that the screen makes a little "flash" on a blank screen for few seconds, before going back to suspend ; Im thinking that it happens, it will be better by unlocking manually the phone by pin, then taking the camera app, basta.
Im wrong : I try to unlock the phone, Bim! keyboard bug. Not any key works. Nothing else to do than restart, because the phone is in the coma, means doesnt reacts anymore. Only solution regarding keyboard bug. But I refuse to let it like that, to drain the battery while cant do anyhing with the phone. I start to push ten seconds on the power button, to do a salvage reboot.
Then Bim! (bis) : nothing. Nothing happens, I figured out few days ago, with the volume up/down buttons, that power button too had a little problem. To make it working, it's necessary to push a bit on the side of the phone, at the buttons level. Few days ago, it was working. Here, zero, nada, more than twenty minutes to make it react, that power button wants to stay in the coma, a bit like the keyboard. After half an hour, my patiency is almost to throw the phone to a bloc of concrete not far of here. But I dont, regrets will come then, per thousand. So I let things like this, at that time. I will handle that problem at home.
I come back home. I finally made the powerbutton pushing : I ask it to poweroff. New bug, it happens sometimes : the "powering off" popup shows, but undefinitely. It happens sometimes. But was solved by ten seconds on the power button. I finally connect it to USB, do a "adb rebootbootloader". Im thinking by restarting it, it will make his memory in a better way. I wasnt expecting being taken by the word.
All users of lienageos whom knows the encypted lock screen at the very beginning of lienage/android starting (even, before it), knows well the thing : impossible to do anything (excepted maybe emergency calls) when the encrypted pin lock code is not entered. A little soft "ring" reminds it to you, every five or ten seconds, after five minutes of inactivity.
So I did the adb thing to reboot the device. You see where Im trying to go? When command is validated, the device immediately restarts ; due to an emotionnal precaution, and also because this device is tiring me a lot, I let it at the top of a little furniture, with the idea it will let it being forgotten for the rest of the evening. That dumb electronic device took it at the accurate word :
between the tea and a little part of reading, my brainds remind me something : this dummby of huawei didnt asked me yet the encryped lock code, with this little ringer, whom never stops until correct code is entered.
Very surprising.. after few moments. Im really worried, after long minutes of waiting.. Why doesnt it screams at me to get this code, to permit it to start android?
Im going close of the device.. Horror! I see the assistant of first lienageos installation. That thing totally forgotten all the data !
After few hours, I calculate my losses :
two weeks of precious exchanges of sms/calls, with numbers for some of them, I will have difficulties to retrieve them..
signal, telegram and jabber (conversations/quicksy), are just definitely gone. the only rescued data? it's the backup made two weeks ago. It permits me to retrieve some data ; but not from isntant messaging, forever gone.. RIP, and without me, huawei.
Since that day, I do everything I could to get my data backed up withing the 24hrs : cloud (EU) storage, daily SMS backup, and especially I limit the number of used apps, to avoid future problems. I remember my maxim : the phone is the second object the most volatile of daily life, just after the home/car keys! And I dont even talk about the drained battery, the bugged operating system whom doesnt starts, nor the forgotten or stolen device.. A long quest to secure my data, starting by the crédo of backups : 3, 2, 1...
Laureates for photos backups would be pcloud, koofr and jottacloud, whom permitted my to find back photos from last hours (and mms received) before the drama. For the rest, memory will be honoured by that essay.
I never use banking application. Cause I disagree of linking a extremely volatile device with money
I use wifi when available, cellular data about less than an hour a day (or even quart of hour per day).
I manually switch it off/on. Cellular/mobile data eats a LOT of battery/energy (battery capacity
divided by 3 minimum)
I use :
newpipe (for yt) / maps.me (for offline maps) / vlc / qksms / fdroid/aurora / carnet / muzei / pdf-
epub reader / davx2 / foldersync / smsbackup&restorek9mail/fairemail / protonmail/vpn
firefox focus / firefox / fennec / torbrowser
linphone / conversations/quicksy (snikket/siskin for ios) / signal/telegram
nextcloud/pcloud/koofr/jottacloud
I do not have, and will never have google apps again (I never use ggle services – at all)
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Also, why did you attach a letter that is a copy of this post?