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Hello,
Sorry for this very basic question, I am just wondering what is the difference between a Kernel and a ROM? I see in the development forum there are lots of new Kernels, what are these actually optimizing except underclocking or undervolting (understand that terminology). I am also wondering if the Kernels are specific for the original Nexus One 2.1 Android or can you install for example Modaco or Cyan ROM and then a different random Kernel?
Thanks!
To my understanding, a kernel is what directly interacts with the hardware. Every OS has this, but it's more customizable on our phones since it's based on Linux. The Rom contains the OS itself, and the software and file structure therein. The kernel even can tell the OS how fast the processor goes and how much juice to use from the battery.
Hope that makes sense, as I'm no expert. You can mix and match the two as far as I know. I've mixed them, anyway.
Halorin,
Based on what you said, with my stock vibrant ROM 2.1 JI6 update, it is possible to change the kernel or install another kernel (like the CM kernel)?
tomasitoc said:
Halorin,
Based on what you said, with my stock vibrant ROM 2.1 JI6 update, it is possible to change the kernel or install another kernel (like the CM kernel)?
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That is really a question better suited to the rom 's development thread, but in general yes you can flash a different kernel. Some kernel/rom combinations work better than others, but you really wont know until you try. Get comfortable with nandroid backups and start trying out different kernel combinations until you find one you like.
Usually most custom roms will include a kernel but they usually have tweaks like coding for 720p, oc, and audio tweaks and what not. Alsways do a nandroid back up and start exploring. When flashing kernels always wipe, I think their are exceptions but its best to wipe just in case. Browse XDA, download a kernel from your phone browser, rom manager install from SD, should be in your downloads folder, backup and wipe, repeat until your phone does what you want.
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which is the better to install???
Thank you your post..
but i can't understand clearly.
so.,
which one is better to install NewRom / Kernal. for android phones.
Neither one is better it just depends on what you want to do.
If you want to totally change over your phone to look and function differently then you need to flash a ROM if you just want to keep the same look but want to enable lets say overclocking then flash an overclocked kernel. If it has to do with the hardware mostly then it's probably something that the kernel can change. Although like mentioned above if you flash a ROM most of the time it will come with a custom kernel.
Dude Random21 said:
Neither one is better it just depends on what you want to do.
If you want to totally change over your phone to look and function differently then you need to flash a ROM if you just want to keep the same look but want to enable lets say overclocking then flash an overclocked kernel. If it has to do with the hardware mostly then it's probably something that the kernel can change. Although like mentioned above if you flash a ROM most of the time it will come with a custom kernel.
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What he said.
ROMs and kernels are two separate things that have two separate functions. Neither is better than the other, but they do complement each other.
Seshu9899 said:
Thank you your post..
but i can't understand clearly.
so.,
which one is better to install NewRom / Kernal. for android phones.
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I know both Dude Random21 and codesplice have gone into this, but to try and give a bit more info...
The kernel is kinda like the nervous system of the body. It directly interacts with the hardware (which is how it is able to adjust CPU speed) and it is what allows the ROM to function.
The ROM is the rest of the body. Every other aspect of the phone. In fact, most ROMs include custom kernels. Various ROMs give you various features/enhancements/bugfixes. You will probably notice the biggest change in your phone if you load a custom ROM. Most people load the custom kernels to help with battery life as a lot of them allow you to lower the phones minimum processing speed from 245Mhz to 128MHz.
The ROM can change so many different aspects of how the phone works. There is CyanogenMod which is based off of stock Android with a lot of tweaks, bugfixes, and new features added. There is also MIUI, which is similar to the iOS style (not the same, but much closer than stock Android), and then there are a ton others out there.
Then which Rom is best for my samsung galaxy s???
so i am using froyo.jpjpg on my galaxys.
i want to flash new Rom with upgaraded to gingerbread.
can i flash only rom../ kernal also.
which is best Rom for samsung galaxys.
cynogenmod, miui, .?????
battery drain is very fast now ian running rom/kernal.
Start by going to the forum for your phone.
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thank you...
i Start the post from samsung galaxy s..
Seshu9899 said:
thank you...
i Start the post from samsung galaxy s..
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your welcomed
Nandbackup + Rom & Kernel
One question: when I do a backup with CWM, it is the Nandroid backup you talk about, correct...? Same thing? So, if I do a backup with CWM, it's a backup only of the ROM, or also the stock Kernel...? Imagine that I do a Rom (GingerDX for example), and flash with a custom Kernel.... If things go bad and I do a restore from my backup (stock) CWM, what do I restore? Rom, or Rom + (stock) Kernel...?
Yes, a backup that is done in ClockworkMod (or Amon_RA) is considered a nandroid backup. And this takes a complete snapshot of your system. Your ROM, your kernel, your apps and your data are all inlcuded. The only thing that isn't included is the fat partition on your sdcard. So if things go bad and you restore your nandroid backup, it will go back to however it was when you made the backup.
thanks a lot. reading this thread clear up a lot of things
Hi!
I am currently running Lite'ning ROM 6.1. XXKH3 Kernel version 2.6.35.11-ninphetamine-2.0.5+ [email protected] #20 on SGSII. Phew.
I've tried a lot of ROMS including MIUI, villain, galmetMIUI ICS version . I like Lite'ning ROM because it gave me the least (virtually Nil) problems (FCs/ reboots) and has almost all the features I need (TV-out that's missing from MIUI, good camera with panorama mode, Recording mode in phone). However I miss the CIFS feature. Is it because the kernel does not support it? Can I get CIFS support if I flash another kernel? Any suggesstions on which Kernel should I flash? I realise that this ROM is pretty old now so Can I get additional features with a newer Kernel.
codesplice said:
What he said.
ROMs and kernels are two separate things that have two separate functions. Neither is better than the other, but they do complement each other.
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That made everything clear. Thanks man. I'm new to the xda but already flashed a new rom that overclocked my CPU to 1.5 and my HTC Sensation 4G Is running so much better right now. However I wish i knew how to thank people... because i see the thanks meter but cannot find where to thank from.
radoslav.trahanov said:
That made everything clear. Thanks man. I'm new to the xda but already flashed a new rom that overclocked my CPU to 1.5 and my HTC Sensation 4G Is running so much better right now. However I wish i knew how to thank people... because i see the thanks meter but cannot find where to thank from.
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The rom didn't overclock your phone. The kernel did. READ. You came to the MT4GS forum starting up a storm for people not giving you a direct link to the regular MT4G. How is it you cant find the freakin' "thanks" button? THERE'S A FREAKIN' THANKS BUTTON IN EVERY FREAKIN' POST. OPEN YOUR FREAKIN' EYES.
Sori m jst new here..jst b0ught my f0ne 2 m0nths ago. Flashed r0m: gingercrime ITA, flashed kernel: ver 2.6.35.14 v6. And iv overclock my fone 245-710Mhz, smartass. fone: lg optimus one, running on gingerbread 2.3.3
Many thanx xda developers..!!
Hi there! I'm new to the forum and to android as well.
As you can guess I'm a proud owner of SGS
Since my SGS sucks a bit (random crashes, reboot, RFS) I'm interested in taking the maximum out of it, and I have some questions.
What is the difference between kernel and a rom? As far as I know from Linux and OS theory, kernel is the layer between the user (applications) and the hardware. I also know that most of the ROMs have kernel in them. Then what else the ROM contains?
What is firmware? Is it used a synonym for kernel/rom?
Is it worth installing custom kernel/rom on SGS? I'm a bit paranoid in those things and have some fears about the issue.
Is there a way to install some good kernel (like speedmod) and naked ROM (not someones mod, i.e. a stock android ROM without any additions from third party developers)? Is it hard to make my own ROM based on stock ROM (without touching the kernel, even tough I looked at the code and read books about the linux kernel, I dont yet consider my self a guru to be able to make my own kernel for android), just the modification and custom applications?
Thanks a lot guys!
Everyone has a kernel - even if you don't mod your phone at all. It wouldn't work without one!
Now, if you flash a ROM, you change the whole system including the kernel. If you flash a kernel, you're only changing the core piece of your system.
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A rom is a full firmware .
A kernel is the bit at the base level between processors and OS .Or just as you said .
Is it worth installing custom kernel/rom on SGS? I'm a bit paranoid in those things and have some fears about the issue.
YES but its at your risk though SGS is relatively un brick able .
Simplest upgrade would be via Rom Kitchen and build your own rom .
Choose base rom kernel modem and CSC to suit plus themes and apps .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817703
jje
The kernel in android is essentially just a customized Linux kernel. The ROM is basically the application layer and the framework. Usually ROMs include kernels, but you can flash a different compatible kernel.
Firmware usually refers to either all the basic software on your phone (minus the apps) or the ROM, csc and modem.
You can definetly flash a custom kernel onto a stock ROM, which will improve performance a great deal even without a custom ROM. Find instructions aplenty here on XDA.
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Thanks for the replies guys!
YES but its at your risk though SGS is relatively un brick able .
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By un brick able you mean that its hard to brick it, or if I brick it its hard to un brick (fix) it then?
Also I'm having a hard understanding, if kernel is the thing that manages the hardware and also responsible for lagfix then kernel is really what matters for the performance of the phone. How a ROM could improve phones performance?
Also one more questions:
As I understand CSC and modem are connectivity related files (3G internet, APNS etc) right? So its better not to touch them when flashing custom ROM/kernel?
Thanks a lot again!
JJEgan means it's really hard to get to brick your SGS.
The kernel is responsible for the proper functionality and cooperation between hardware parts. As for SGS, it is a common belief that Samsung's RFS is not as robust or "agile" as ext4 FS. Thus, converting RFS to ext4 should increase device's performance (the time needed for the read/write operations to take place is decreased). BUT, in order for the device to function properly, the kernel MUST support ext4 as a file system format otherwise it won't work anymore (This could happen after installing a stock kernel on a device that uses some filesystem apart from rfs). Samsung's stock kernel does not, so you have to replace it, if that's the case.
(E.g. If you format a USB drive under Windows 7 with "exFAT" as its filesystem, you won't be able to access it through Windows XP for example, because XP does not support "exFAT" - Different kernels & Different OS version ).
Yes, CSC and modem.bin are what makes your device a TELEPHONE, too Connectivity issues between your operator and your handset depend on those files. If you can find the latest COMPATIBLE modem file, then go for it.
Thanks for the explanation!
As for CSC and modem, by compatible you mean the same version (XXJPY for example)? How do I know they are compatible with my phone?
Thanks a lot again!
the CSC doesnt have to match the baseband. for exapmle, you can have XXJPY baseband and XXJQ1 modem. (thats what i used to run)
its all about finding the right modem for your region, you want to make sure you get good connections dont ya ? modems affect SMS, Calls, Data, WIFI, so on.....
so you want the right one. If you go to rom kitchen, you can see all the modems and what region they cover
Thanks!
But is there a way not to touch the CSC/modem when flashing custom kernel/ROM? I'm really afraid to mess with those.
Also could someone refer to this question:
Also I'm having a hard understanding, if kernel is the thing that manages the hardware and also responsible for lagfix then kernel is really what matters for the performance of the phone. How a ROM could improve phones performance?
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Thanks a lot again, and sorry for a bunch of questions!
So is the pda is the kernel then if you are flasing pda/modem/csc?
Yes, PDA is a kernel
skwo said:
Thanks!
But is there a way not to touch the CSC/modem when flashing custom kernel/ROM? I'm really afraid to mess with those.
Also could someone refer to this question:
Thanks a lot again, and sorry for a bunch of questions!
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Think of the kernel as the drivers and the ROM as the OS. If your drivers are from 1987, windows 7 wont run well, if at all. However, you can have the newest 2011 drivers installed on Windows 95....same thing. Kernel and ROM must be well suited and work together for a good experience.
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X-GoD said:
So is the pda is the kernel then if you are flasing pda/modem/csc?
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Actually if you are flashing a three file firmware with odin, PDA is the ROM, which in this case usually includes a kernel.
If you are flashing a kernel alone onto an already installed ROM, then the kernel is put in the PDA field.
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Gingerbread needs a different kernel than Froyo, right?
every firmwarerelease (JVQ, JVP, JVR, JVS, etc..) has its own kernel version.
but with talondev im not sure, cuz there is no distinction between the kernel versions.
with all other custom kernel releases you have specific kernel versions.
yep 10 charrrrr
Terranigmus said:
Gingerbread needs a different kernel than Froyo, right?
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Yes, be sure to read the kernel's thread to check the version it is made for.
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thehackman said:
every firmwarerelease (JVQ, JVP, JVR, JVS, etc..) has its own kernel version.
but with talondev im not sure, cuz there is no distinction between the kernel versions.
with all other custom kernel releases you have specific kernel versions.
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Actually most custom kernels can work with any firmware build for the same version, froyo or gb. Some devs may base a kernel on a specific firmware, but they usually work on all.
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I found the following link that briefs the options that you are looking for. I know this is an old post but thought posting here would help others as well.
donandroid.com/understanding-odin-a-beginners-guide-on-odin-buttons-checkboxes-629
Thanks,
Uresh
skwo said:
Hi there! I'm new to the forum and to android as well.
As you can guess I'm a proud owner of SGS
Since my SGS sucks a bit (random crashes, reboot, RFS) I'm interested in taking the maximum out of it, and I have some questions.
What is the difference between kernel and a rom? As far as I know from Linux and OS theory, kernel is the layer between the user (applications) and the hardware. I also know that most of the ROMs have kernel in them. Then what else the ROM contains?
What is firmware? Is it used a synonym for kernel/rom?
Is it worth installing custom kernel/rom on SGS? I'm a bit paranoid in those things and have some fears about the issue.
Is there a way to install some good kernel (like speedmod) and naked ROM (not someones mod, i.e. a stock android ROM without any additions from third party developers)? Is it hard to make my own ROM based on stock ROM (without touching the kernel, even tough I looked at the code and read books about the linux kernel, I dont yet consider my self a guru to be able to make my own kernel for android), just the modification and custom applications?
Thanks a lot guys!
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uresh.kuruhuri said:
I found the following link that briefs the options that you are looking for. I know this is an old post but thought posting here would help others as well.
donandroid.com/understanding-odin-a-beginners-guide-on-odin-buttons-checkboxes-629
Thanks,
Uresh
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thats quite old link u brought up here..........
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Right, ive had a i9000 for 5 months or so, and ever since i got it, ive found it to be slow, at times laggy. And hate alot of the crap samsung put on it.Which ive not even used.
I reckon its about time i start to make the most of my phone, but dont really know where to start, with these custom roms and rooting and what not.
I basically want it to run smoothly and possibly add a tweaks/features to it which could possibly improve it. However i remember reading somewhere, that ill lose the camera features if i install a custom rom. :l (i could be talking from my arse here)
Also i read that android 4.0 is coming or has come out. Would i be able to upgrade my phone to it ? and should i ?? If not what is the best rom to flash which will make my phone faster and smoother.
Is there anything at all to make it significantly faster, or is it limited by hardware :/
Im currently on:
kernal version 2.6.29
firmware 2.1 -update1
Which i havnt messed with since i got the phone.
Thanks, and sorry for the daft questions.
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
innovat0r said:
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
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Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
skweezer said:
Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
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OK, here we go...
1. First of all you need to root your device to install a custom rom or kernel. So first root your device with the above thread (cf-root).
2. Choose any rom from so many roms available all over xda. Choose only from the topic which is under your device's category, not from other device's rom,lol.
To do this you need Odin(use search)
3. Once done you will have custom rom and also custom kernel if you wish.
After these you can go for lagfix, like changing from rfs to ext4.
Best of luck.
Thanks, so after ive rooted with cf-root. do i have to install a custom rom and custom kernel, both ?
And which is considered the best rom and kernel ?
thanks
regards
Hey Skweezer,
Recommend you start with these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
and:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
They will tell you about how to connect your phone to your PC (Samsung USB drivers + adb), 3 button mode (how to avoid bricking your phone), backing up important/unrecoverable data (like your EFS block!), and what (in general) needs to be done to flash custom firmware.
After that, you should be able to pretty much recover from any error (like unplugging your phone mid flash). Now you can go ahead and root your phone and start exploring the wonderful word of custom roms! As for which one is the best, that's like asking "how long is a piece of string?" Some people prefer speed and cutting edge, others value battery life and stability, some aim for the middle of the road.
Personally I've tried tegrak kernel and was really impressed with the speed improvement! However, the limited app space finally turned me back to other kernels. I found the rest to be pretty much six in one, half dozen in the other (ie all about the same)... so pick one you like and just go for it... use it for a while and if it's not to your liking, flash again
Just a quick rundown on android for you... firmware 2.1 = Eclair, 2.2 = Frozen Yoghurt, 2.3 = Gingerbread, 3.0 = Honeycomb (tablet only version of android) and 4.0 = Ice Cream Sandwich (unify android for phone/tablet/tv again). There is a HUGE performance increase from going stock 2.1 to 2.3! so even if you just upgrade to Samsung's Gingerbread release (2.3.3 I believe?) you will notice better performance. Doing lagfix, kernel tweaks, etc is just icing on top of the cake. However, you'll find once you start tweaking, you won't go back to stock
Well, easiest way of starting is installing KIES and letting it update your phone. That's the official way and you won't have to bother with details like kernels, roms, bootloaders, etc and won't void your warranty (if that's the case).
You'll probably be left with with some 2.3.x version. Might as well make a backup from your stuff before upgrading, kies sucks in a general way, but may help you with that.
From that point on, if you still want to press further into customization goodness, there are PLENTY to chose from.
There are mainly 2 kinds of roms:
- Samsung based (someone picks up a sock samsung rom and modifies it with scripts, kernels, themes, apps, etc). These are most of the ones you'll find in the development section of this forum.
- not samsung based (like Cyanogen e MIUI). These are built from Google's sources directly and totally skip samsung. Therefore, samsung apps most likely won't work here. Everything else does.
Personally i'd recommend Cyanogen 7.1 stable as your next rom. It's an extremely optimized and wildly popular rom, with plenty of options that you won't find in any stock rom. They have their own forum i recommend you to look up if you're going their way.
Whatever you do, GET AWAY FROM THAT 2.1
Cheers for alll the replies guys. Im first going to just update via kies. To an official 2.3
If im not happy with that then ill try a custom rom and rooting.
If only it was as simple as jailbreaking and iphone. lool
Right, ust updated to latest version via kies. And instantly alot better, smoother. Has some of those things bulit into the system which i always though were missing.
Ill try it for a week, and see if theres anything i need, or think is missing. Then i might go custom. But right now im happy with it on the latest official version.
Thank you guys, i think you've made me sort of like android a bit more.
Greetings.
I am the first time user planning to flash my 16GB Galaxy Note GT-N7000 phone (from Asia).
Previously I have been hard bricked my phone (MoBo damaged) due to improper / incorrect kernel flashing ROM. Already sent to Service Centre for replacement of MoBo under warranty. Now it's in the progress and I should be expecting it back in the couples of days.
Anyhow, I still prefer third party ROMs with awesome GUI. I plan to "try" flashing again when my phone is back.
This time, I would take more caution while doing this stuff. My request is, for first time new user like me, which ROM is recommended (plus suitable Kernel type which is more power saving and low temperature operating)?
I mean here maybe pointing more to what I so call close to "Samsung Custom ROM". I think that should be more convenient and safer for me rather than trying completely on new AOSP type for the first time. This is only my own opinion
What say you? Again, thanks for your recommendation. Have a nice day
i recommend you first try to read the rules of posting mate...requesting a move to the Q & A section...
ps...3 posts and already in the development section? hmm...
Moved To Q&A
This is in no way development, please post in the correct section. Anybody wondering the reason why this user can post in the dev section is due to the amount of time he has been a member. We thought a user with a long membership would be aware of such a basic rule, guess not
cleanote seems what you asking for. It's a clean rom based on stock, but very smooth
Honestly,i think every rom the Dev created are great.Just read through the OP of the each rom to see what rom is fit your style ( like you go to mall looking for shoe is fit you) and try it .Wish you luck...:victory:
Yeah, right. read through the OP and intructions a few times to be sure first.
Dudes, sorry for wrong posting in other section. I've been quite long time never browsing through this forum. That's why not familiar with the rules.
As my friend recommended me to search from XDA which is one of the best ROMs forum, here I am back again
BTW, what does OP stand for?
I have viewed through few threads in ROM dev section. Honestly, I'm still digesting the contents and descriptions...
Also, I require Chinese input or viewing too (forgot to state).
So far, I have been read through Criskelo ROMs (I like its GUI i.e. close to GS3 too), Fusion ROMs, CM9 ROMs etc. Not sure if these ROMs may fulfill what I've been requested?? Safe Kernels (this really worries me from what I've been experienced before----hardbricked! scare!)?
Thanks for your comment.
I would recommend CRASH rom...you can request the DEV for your Chinese stuff...its touchwizz base...safe kernel and very smooth with NO BUGS at all..:good:
For the awesome user interface I would say Paranoid Android (CM9, not CM10).
For the chinese stuff, I think Criskelo's rom supports it"• ADD Chinese Keyboard (on request)"
I'm not really sure if that's what you're asking for.
I think PA also supports chinese.
I don't think there are "new users" roms. Just read carefully the instructions and you should be fine.
perri.etb said:
For the awesome user interface I would say Paranoid Android (CM9, not CM10).
For the chinese stuff, I think Criskelo's rom supports it"• ADD Chinese Keyboard (on request)"
I'm not really sure if that's what you're asking for.
I think PA also supports chinese.
I don't think there are "new users" roms. Just read carefully the instructions and you should be fine.
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Hi, let's say if I would like to flash Criskelo ROM, which safe Kernel shall I choose to use?
Speedmod, AbyssNote, GL Notecore (never heard, is it safe kernel)??
I just got back my phone with default stock GingerBread 2.3.6 (correction) ROM, without any rooting after repairing
Make sure you read the details on Rooting and flashing your phone.
NEVER WIPE / RESET on ICS Stock Kernels/ ROMS..
There's a lot of info in Dr. K's Stock ROM thread..
As for what ROM to use - I'd say CleaNote is probably what you're after, very close to stock with bloat removed. Bundled with the Dev's own Kernel...
Anyway, Good luck and remember to read, read and read again before you start messing around and bricking your device again..
CJSlim79 said:
Make sure you read the details on Rooting and flashing your phone.
NEVER WIPE / RESET on ICS Stock Kernels/ ROMS..
There's a lot of info in Dr. K's Stock ROM thread..
As for what ROM to use - I'd say CleaNote is probably what you're after, very close to stock with bloat removed. Bundled with the Dev's own Kernel...
Anyway, Good luck and remember to read, read and read again before you start messing around and bricking your device again..
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Thanks for your advice. Actually I'm on stock GB 2.3.6 ROM now.
Should I flash any safe kernel before installing CleaNote ROM (as recommended)? Root required?
Also, what is "bloat removed"?
symbian6600 said:
Thanks for your advice. Actually I'm on stock GB 2.3.6 ROM now.
Should I flash any safe kernel before installing CleaNote ROM (as recommended)? Root required?
Also, what is "bloat removed"?
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First your anwwer to what OP stands for it means "Original Post" .
Secondly, as you are on stock GB, you are safe from the Brickbug & can very well flash as you like, but keep in mind two things:
1- Read, re read & follow to the point the ROM developers installation instruction.
2- Do not Wipe / factory reset from any unsafe kernel. Only wipe from a safe kernel, i.e., GB & in case of ICS those with their MMC_CAP_ERASE command disabled like Speedmod K3-11, GL Notecore, etc.
Pls. read the stick section for additional information
By the way I would recommend Kingdroid Notemania Version 5.1.1 (With S3 Touchwiz UI Mods) with Speedmod Kernel for ICS K3-11 (Good performance & better battery)
Yin-Yang said:
First your anwwer to what OP stands for it means "Original Post" .
Secondly, as you are on stock GB, you are safe from the Brickbug & can very well flash as you like, but keep in mind two things:
1- Read, re read & follow to the point the ROM developers installation instruction.
2- Do not Wipe / factory reset from any unsafe kernel. Only wipe from a safe kernel, i.e., GB & in case of ICS those with their MMC_CAP_ERASE command disabled like Speedmod K3-11, GL Notecore, etc.
Pls. read the stick section for additional information
By the way I would recommend Kingdroid Notemania Version 5.1.1 (With S3 Touchwiz UI Mods) with Speedmod Kernel for ICS K3-11 (Good performance & better battery)
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
Noted your ROM & kernel recommendation. I've downloaded Criskelo v10.1 ROM previously (few hours downloading due to my slow internet connection). Thus, I plan to try this ROM first.
Actually, should I install any safer kernel even if this ROM contains it?
And, the correct steps for installation are ----> 1. root first 2. flash any so called CF_rooted_CWM_xxxx for GB ROM? 3. full wipe 4. flash this ROM in recovery mode?
actually you really should read, a LOT.
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praetorius said:
actually you really should read, a LOT.
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Bro, yup, you are right.
I still need to read A LOT. Still digesting those relevant threads (although some are not quite understanding...)
Working hard on them to make my first custom ROM flashing successfully
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
Noted your ROM & kernel recommendation. I've downloaded Criskelo v10.1 ROM previously (few hours downloading due to my slow internet connection). Thus, I plan to try this ROM first.
Actually, should I install any safer kernel even if this ROM contains it?
And, the correct steps for installation are ----> 1. root first 2. flash any so called CF_rooted_CWM_xxxx for GB ROM? 3. full wipe 4. flash this ROM in recovery mode?
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I've downgraded to stock GB ROM 2.3.5 (XXKK1 in my region). Then, I used InitialCFRootFlasher (CF-Root-SGN_ZS_MUL_KK1-v5.0-CWM5) to root + CWM as guided by owner of the OP. Would both different XX and ZS kernel types affect anything in term of phone functionality?
Finally, I found SuperUser and CWM in the menu as per attached pictures. Rooted, right?
What would be my next step to flash Criskelo v10.1 ROM? Thanks.
Your next step should have been second after rooting gb, back efs up, see my profike page, statistics and then backup thread I started
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Hi Everyone
After waiting for a year now and it seems that Samsung didn't released any newer updates for my Note GT-N7000 at my country. I was hoping for them to release an update to prevent that "MMC_CAP_ERASE bug? that causes hardbrick" that i have been hearing around here..
But now i got tired of waiting and Now I want to try to root/flash to a safe custom rom, Since i am currently having some problems with my Note now. It's acting a little weird like apps not functioning properly and deleting a small MB file on Internal Memory it takes very long to get it deleted Annoying artifacts appearing during at Dark or Black scenes while watching a video. Using Earphones while watching a video the audio sometimes got muted itself then for a few seconds it resumes back with audio back on repeatedly.
I have only experience on rooting and flashing my Galaxy Tab GT-P1000 but i had a soft brick thanks to the person who posted misleading instructions that causes this to happen. But eventually i managed to recovered from the soft brick and successfully flashing to a JB custom rom
Yeah before you asked me "have you read this Important thread ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360 " Yes I have already read everything on the first post by dr ketan at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
Anyway, Here is my Information i found on my Note.
Model Number is GT-N7000.
Android Version 4.0.4 Stock ICS.
Baseband version N7000DXLR1.
Kernel Version 3.0.1.5-N7000DXLR5-CL968032
Build Number IMM76D.DXLR5
Here are my questions,
[Q Number 1]
I have already read everything on the first post by dr ketan. I notice there's so many of methods to root the Note. But I'm not sure which one is the safest and easiest method to Root and Flash Hopefully someone here is kind to guide me through the process since this is my first time rooting and flashing on a Note GT-N7000 running on Android 4.0.4 Stock ICS.
[Q Number 2]
There's tons of JB custom roms everywhere! I'm not sure which one is the best and popular one. I'm looking for a fast and stable Jellybean custom rom that are currently available for my Note GT-N7000.
I will be waiting and checking this thread regularly
dc2mx said:
Hi Everyone
After waiting for a year now and it seems that Samsung didn't released any newer updates for my Note GT-N7000 at my country. I was hoping for them to release an update to prevent that "MMC_CAP_ERASE bug? that causes hardbrick" that i have been hearing around here..
But now i got tired of waiting and Now I want to try to root/flash to a safe custom rom, Since i am currently having some problems with my Note now. It's acting a little weird like apps not functioning properly and deleting a small MB file on Internal Memory it takes very long to get it deleted And annoying artifacts appearing during at Dark or Black scenes while watching a video.
I have only experience on rooting and flashing my Galaxy Tab GT-P1000 but i had a soft brick thanks to the person who posted misleading instructions that causes this to happen. But eventually i managed to recovered from the soft brick and successfully flashing to a JB custom rom
Yeah before you asked me "have you read this Important thread ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360 " Yes I have already read everything on the first post by dr ketan at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
Anyway, Here is my Information i found on my Note.
Model Number is GT-N7000.
Android Version 4.0.4 Stock ICS.
Baseband version N7000DXLR1.
Kernel Version 3.0.1.5-N7000DXLR5-CL968032
Here are my questions,
[Q Number 1]
I have already read everything on the first post by dr ketan. I notice there's so many of methods to root the Note. But I'm not sure which one is the safest and easiest method to Root and Flash Hopefully someone here is kind to guide me through the process since this is my first time rooting and flashing on a Note GT-N7000 running on Android 4.0.4 Stock ICS.
[Q Number 2]
There's tons of JB custom roms everywhere! I'm not sure which one is the best and popular one. I'm looking for a fast and stable Jellybean custom rom that are currently available for my Note GT-N7000.
I will be waiting and checking this thread regularly
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The safest and easiest way to flash ROM and get ROOT at the same time is using Odin Mobile, which offers option for getting ROOT.
You can use Stock ROM LT4.
For most popular custom ROMs : Eybee1970, Team Union, Alliance, Sweet,
ThaiDai ROM for slim and mutillanguage, Glory ROM also for multilanguage with mods.
There are a lot of other good ROMs here, you have to read more to find out what suits better to your taste.
dc2mx said:
Hi Everyone
After waiting for a year now and it seems that Samsung didn't released any newer updates for my Note GT-N7000 at my country. I was hoping for them to release an update to prevent that "MMC_CAP_ERASE bug? that causes hardbrick" that i have been hearing around here..
But now i got tired of waiting and Now I want to try to root/flash to a safe custom rom, Since i am currently having some problems with my Note now. It's acting a little weird like apps not functioning properly and deleting a small MB file on Internal Memory it takes very long to get it deleted And annoying artifacts appearing during at Dark or Black scenes while watching a video.
I have only experience on rooting and flashing my Galaxy Tab GT-P1000 but i had a soft brick thanks to the person who posted misleading instructions that causes this to happen. But eventually i managed to recovered from the soft brick and successfully flashing to a JB custom rom
Yeah before you asked me "have you read this Important thread ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360 " Yes I have already read everything on the first post by dr ketan at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
Anyway, Here is my Information i found on my Note.
Model Number is GT-N7000.
Android Version 4.0.4 Stock ICS.
Baseband version N7000DXLR1.
Kernel Version 3.0.1.5-N7000DXLR5-CL968032
Here are my questions,
[Q Number 1]
I have already read everything on the first post by dr ketan. I notice there's so many of methods to root the Note. But I'm not sure which one is the safest and easiest method to Root and Flash Hopefully someone here is kind to guide me through the process since this is my first time rooting and flashing on a Note GT-N7000 running on Android 4.0.4 Stock ICS.
[Q Number 2]
There's tons of JB custom roms everywhere! I'm not sure which one is the best and popular one. I'm looking for a fast and stable Jellybean custom rom that are currently available for my Note GT-N7000.
I will be waiting and checking this thread regularly
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The safest and easiest way doesn't exist. It's up to you.
And best Rom threads and questions are simply against XDA policy, read the rules and you'll see.
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ThaiDai said:
The safest and easiest way doesn't exist. It's up to you.
And best Rom threads and questions are simply against XDA policy, read the rules and you'll see.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Thanks ThaiDai for XDA policy recall, hope you be back to Aachen. :good:
ThaiDai said:
The safest and easiest way doesn't exist. It's up to you.
And best Rom threads and questions are simply against XDA policy, read the rules and you'll see.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Hello there
I'm really sorry if i just break some of the rules here. I wonder if it's okay for me to just follow the recommended method 1A by dr ketan ? Now i am in PhilZ thread i suppose i have to find my own Galaxy Note Kernel Version first right ? which is DXLR5 so i guess i have to download this kernel here http://www.mediafire.com/?c2jmfqnwajw8ei1 .PhilZ-cwm6-DXLR5-OLB-v3.99 Then flash it in the menu called Stock Recovery (VolumeUP+HOME+POWER button)
I found out that my Baseband version has a DXLR1 in there. Should i be worry on this ?
The PhilZ kernel file listed v3.99 there. my Kernel Version is 3.0.1.5-N7000DXLR5-CL968032, Example when i managed to flash that kernel. I guess that my Kernel Version will changed to like 3.9.9.9 am i right ? or it is not okay to just flash to latest updated kernel like v3.99 ?
I hope it's okay to just answer my newbie questions here. I need someone to help me and tell me whether if i did it right or wrong.
Thank you very much
dc2mx said:
Hello there
I'm really sorry if i just break some of the rules here. I wonder if it's okay for me to just follow the recommended method 1A by dr ketan ? Now i am in PhilZ thread i suppose i have to find my own Galaxy Note Kernel Version first right ? which is DXLR5 so i guess i have to download this kernel here http://www.mediafire.com/?c2jmfqnwajw8ei1 .PhilZ-cwm6-DXLR5-OLB-v3.99 Then flash it in the menu called Stock Recovery (VolumeUP+HOME+POWER button)
I found out that my Baseband version has a DXLR1 in there. Should i be worry on this ?
The PhilZ kernel file listed v3.99 there. my Kernel Version is 3.0.1.5-N7000DXLR5-CL968032, Example when i managed to flash that kernel. I guess that my Kernel Version will changed to like 3.9.9.9 am i right ? or it is not okay to just flash to latest updated kernel like v3.99 ?
I hope it's okay to just answer my newbie questions here. I need someone to help me and tell me whether if i did it right or wrong.
Thank you very much
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No problem when you see :
- Baseband DXLR1
- Difference between 3.99 and 3.0.1.5-N7000DXLR5-CL968032.The first is the Philz own version, the second is the Samsung one.
It's normal.
dc2mx said:
[Q Number 1]
I have already read everything on the first post by dr ketan. I notice there's so many of methods to root the Note. But I'm not sure which one is the safest and easiest method to Root and Flash Hopefully someone here is kind to guide me through the process since this is my first time rooting and flashing on a Note GT-N7000 running on Android 4.0.4 Stock ICS.
[Q Number 2]
There's tons of JB custom roms everywhere! I'm not sure which one is the best and popular one. I'm looking for a fast and stable Jellybean custom rom that are currently available for my Note GT-N7000.
I will be waiting and checking this thread regularly
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1.As far as rooting method is concerned on said thread, all the methods are safe. there are pros and cons of different method and already mentioned on thread.
I do recommend 1A, as it will root device as well gives you protection from brick bug and without raising flash counter too. So in case you want to go that way, download LR5 philx kernel in zip version and flash from stock recovery.
2.See ROM selection is totally depends on own taste, you can never rely on others answer, but best way go through OP of custom ROM thread, read features mentioned, read some reviews/bugs and try it yourself. that's the only and best way.
dr.ketan said:
1.As far as rooting method is concerned on said thread, all the methods are safe. there are pros and cons of different method and already mentioned on thread.
I do recommend 1A, as it will root device as well gives you protection from brick bug and without raising flash counter too. So in case you want to go that way, download LR5 philx kernel in zip version and flash from stock recovery.
2.See ROM selection is totally depends on own taste, you can never rely on others answer, but best way go through OP of custom ROM thread, read features mentioned, read some reviews/bugs and try it yourself. that's the only and best way.
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First of all, Dr Ketan Thank you very much for helping me with this. I really appreciate your help Yeah i understand what you're trying to mean about that custom ROMs I will take a look at all of them later.
But now I want to see if i got it right again. I will flash it after you give me the final confirmation i need :victory:
1. Find my own stock Kernel build code DXLR5 then go to PhilZ thread and find PhilZ Kernel that listed my Kernel code which is PhilZ-cwm6-DXLR5-OLB-v3.99 then download it After that Connect a USB cable to the computer + Note then copy the PhilZ kernel and place at Root dir of External microSD card then turn off Galaxy Note, then hold VOLUME UP + HOME + POWER button for a few seconds to boot in Stock Recovery Menu then flash it at there. am i right ?
Last question here, Finding a Custom Rom that suit my needs might take awhile since i haven't read all of them yet. But i wonder if it's okay to stay in Stock ICS Android 4.0.4 + PhilZ Kernel ?
dc2mx said:
1. Find my own stock Kernel build code DXLR5 then go to PhilZ thread and find PhilZ Kernel that listed my Kernel code which is PhilZ-cwm6-DXLR5-OLB-v3.99 then download it After that Connect a USB cable to the computer + Note then copy the PhilZ kernel and place at Root dir of External microSD card then turn off Galaxy Note, then hold VOLUME UP + HOME + POWER button for a few seconds to boot in Stock Recovery Menu then flash it at there. am i right ?
Last question here, Finding a Custom Rom that suit my needs might take awhile since i haven't read all of them yet. But i wonder if it's okay to stay in Stock ICS Android 4.0.4 + PhilZ Kernel ?
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1.Yes, but remember you have to select zip version of kernel not tar
obviously there is nothing wrong to stay on stock with safe kernel till you couldn't find out best custom ROM for you.
dr.ketan said:
1.Yes, but remember you have to select zip version of kernel not tar
obviously there is nothing wrong to stay on stock with safe kernel till you couldn't find out best custom ROM for you.
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Okay Yeah i got the signed version instead of that .tar version which is for ODIN.
Good News! i just flashed it and it works! I have SuperSU application installed. I really appreciate all your help that you have done dr ketan thank you very much. Now i have PhilZ CWM kernel. does it uses the same buttons to activate it like the stock recovery ? VOLUMEUP+HOME+POWER BUTTON,