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Has something chaned my IMEI number?

Bit of a vague question, I know!!
Yesterday, I tried to register a pay as you go sim card to my TyTN II, but the automated registration process would not accept my IMEI number. After several failed attempts, I had to get hold of another phone, and register using that IMEI number. However, when I compared the 2 IMEI numbers afterwards, my TyTN one had an extra 2 digits. So I checked it against the original box, which also has a different IMEI number, as the phone had been replaced under warranty, but that also had 2 less numbers than my actual phone.
Now I'm not really sure what I have done to my phone, but everything I have done came from here. I haven't touched it for about 3 or 4 months, as I was happy with the way it was. It was a UK Orange TyTn II, which I unlocked, hardspl'ed and upgraded to wm6.1, all from here. I think I used something from olipro, and the rom was a stock voda one, and not one of the cooked ones. I seem to remember reading that maybe the unlocking, or the hardspl'ing could do this? What, if anything, can I do about this now? I'd like to change it back if possible? Thanks.

The sticker under your battery will have a 15 digit IMEI number. If you check your IMEI in Windows by doing *#06#, you will see a 17 digit IMEI number. As long as the first 15 numbers match the sticker under the battery, then you're fine.

Thanks. Panic over? I think?
Yes, the imei number behind the battery matches what is displayed by the phone, except the phone adds 01 onto the end? Is this normal?

synet said:
Thanks. Panic over? I think?
Yes, the imei number behind the battery matches what is displayed by the phone, except the phone adds 01 onto the end? Is this normal?
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as long as the first fifteen numbers match

is lMEl changing possible for this PDA ? if possible how to ?

I'm pretty sure this not the appropriate place to discuss changing you IMEI number. It's illegal and unscrupulous. I'm pretty sure the moderators of this forum would deffinetly not want to see this post.

My problem is solved (thanks everyone ) so happy for this to be locked, if required.

IMEI
IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) is not something easy to change
ur first 15 characters matches - so u r fine

... and just for the reference:
back in the days, when I still had my hermes, I've managed somehow to wipe it's imei through flashing roms. don't ask me how it is possible, but when I went to settings/system/device information/hardware the imei field was blank.
never had a chance to test it, but I believe that it may be the cause of my further problems with it. that device was constantly connecting for like up to 5 sec. to the network, then out of a sudden connection was dropped for some time. dunno. other thing is, that it radio could be faulty after a drop.
whatever....

imei # changes after providers customization?
I noticed after using a direct from factory (htc repair center) phone that if you stop the mobile providers freeware bloatware from running that my imei # did not match my sticker (was 17 not 15 digits long) so I ran a search found this thread. like the original poster we were both concerned with not having matching imei's, I didnt want to send my phone back to htc. I panicked and posted before reading the entire thread. I was not and am not interested in hacking my IMEI was just worried that it shipped out wrong.
I didnt want to delete my post afterward so instead pointed out that Im a putz and that Notatreofan answered the original posters concerns as well as my own.
thanks again for leaving these old threads around they do help?

HakkanR said:
is lMEl changing possible for this PDA ? if possible how to ?
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Yes, changing IMEI numbers is possible - but mostly only necessary for low life thieving scum - also illegal in most countries.
No one on this forum will tell you how to do it - pursuing the question will probably get you banned - pursuing the solution might also get you jailed.

you better check on the date of the post you are replying to... silly little boy...

Bumping an old thread is just bollocks...

I'll just add that the last two digits are the SVN (Software Version Number) that's all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMEI
Ta
Dave

bought my diamond second hand off some guy 2 months ago..

and today when I was looking into unlocking my phone, I noticed that the system IMEI is different from the IMEI label on the back of the phone.
I am using a deep shining ROM. did the ROM flash over the IMEI or was my phone just messed up to begin with?
also is there a soft method of finding out whether or not my phone is already unlocked?

Sorry to say but that guy messed your over by changing the IMEI. Flashing a rom doesn't do anything to IMEI, special tools and software CAN change it, and that is what this guy did. You can't do anything to change that, as changing IMEI is downright illegal and you dont want to get caught up in that.
As for finding out if its unlocked, take another companies SIM CARD, ie if you are with ATT, go and get a Rogers, or whoever else uses a SIM CARD, and find out if it will work in the phone.

so, it is quite possible that this phone is stolen? damn... what are the potential consequences of that? if he switched the original IMEI to the current one that I have, what if someone legitamately uses the imei on the same network, am I going to be screwed?

SUBLIMINALLYINC said:
so, it is quite possible that this phone is stolen? damn... what are the potential consequences of that? if he switched the original IMEI to the current one that I have, what if someone legitamately uses the imei on the same network, am I going to be screwed?
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No you will not get screwed. {Unless you really want to; then I'm sure we can arrange for it}
IMEI {International Mobile Electronics Identification} Numbers are uniqe to every phone, but the network does not {& I believe Cannot} read the IMEI. ESNs {Electronic Serial Numbers} are a different thing, as the CDMA networks use this # to Identify the devices network authenticity {in other words: Whether or not it's authorized to use the network}. GSM {Global SIM Management} Phones rely on the SIM card to authenticate the devices access to the network. An IMEI is never sent thru the network! That's like posting your social security # online {Mine's 420-69-840} About the only time that a false IMEI is a problem, is when you need to get it unlocked {as you are trying to}; or if you need to report it stolen/lost. If the latter is the case then you will need to provide the authorities with both IMEIs. This is in case the person that has it removes the label in the back. For unlocking the device, you need to give the # that's in the software; as this is the only # the phone knows. Oh yeah, You can't send it in to get HTC warranty service either
Have you tried asking the person you bought it from about this? I would!! I would want to know why he did it, how he did it, & where the other # came from. It is a possibility that he had replaced the Mainboard with another unit, but he should have changed the labels at the same time. I have done this with a few phones {combine a couple bad ones to make a good one}, but I always ensure the IMEI or ESN matches on the back & in the software! If you believe you were defrauded, then contact the authorities & explain it to them. If there is another phone with the same IMEI, they should be able to tell you.

It might either be that he changed the main board or the cover itself.. (hopefully he did not steal it..)
I wouldnt worry too much about it though. Just go with the IMEI that is displayed on your screen not on the back of the phone.

well i tried to get an unlock code by using the IMEI read off the system page on my diamond and the guy couldnt get aan unlock code; is there anyother way to get the correct code>?

SUBLIMINALLYINC said:
so, it is quite possible that this phone is stolen? damn... what are the potential consequences of that? if he switched the original IMEI to the current one that I have, what if someone legitamately uses the imei on the same network, am I going to be screwed?
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Hi,
Maybe it is or it isn't (but it is possible). It depends on which country that person bought this phone and maybe he used warranty service. I had this issue myself.After 2 month My Diamond didn't recognize my simcard, i sent it for warranty and when it came back GPS didn't work. so i sent it again , when i received it, at repair center they said that they replace mainboard, so imei changes and i received written document that they replaced mainboard (my back panel imei and the imei that phone shows are different now).
for checking it , Goto this site : http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr
enter both imei and check them, if both are for diamond i think your mainboard is changed before, but if the imei that phone shows is belong to another handset (for Ex : a nokia one or another htc model) i can say 99% percent your phone is stolen.

i'd probably bet he's bought an "original" housing from auction site. i've done it many of times but i usually rip the imei sticker off, bear in mind the imei on the diamond is only on a metal plate, he may have forgot to change this part, he may have damaged his old imei sticker/plate, as stated above he may have changed his main board also, there is many possibilities.
don't worry about it, if your still a bit worried try the CheckMEND online service here:
http://www.checkmend.com/uk/
It costs £1.99 per go, (which you'd want to do both imei's) but you get a certificate telling you wahts dodgy or not about your phone.
it a great service if you feel a little worried.

[Q] Why Do I Have 2 Different IMEI Numbers?

While a new member, I've been following the community a bit and have flashed my Captivate successfully several times.
It started acting weird earlier this week (lagging and shutting itself off) so I decided to re-flash it and re-apply SRE with all the goodies it brings.
Since my last flash, the phone works fine (calls, messaging, and Internet) except for one problem - the Android Market.
I can access the market but am unable to download anything. I've tried many different solutions, ROM's (JF2, JH2, and JH3), 3G/WiFi, internal settings, clearing the Market cache, Dalvik cache, etc., using Market Access and going outside of AT&T's allowed applications, all to no avail. It's the same whether I attempt to download after a fresh flash or after applying SRE. I've also tried Unleash the Beast.
Finally I decided to call AT&T to find out if there was a problem somewhere on their end.
Here's the weird thing:
The IMEI I have on the sticker under my battery is that of a Captivate and matches what they have on record. The representative I spoke to told me that the IMEI I have in my phone's menu is an iPhone IMEI.
With all that being said, I have two questions:
1) How did this happen?
2) How can I fix it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

FrstdOne said:
While a new member, I've been following the community a bit and have flashed my Captivate successfully several times.
It started acting weird earlier this week (lagging and shutting itself off) so I decided to re-flash it and re-apply SRE with all the goodies it brings.
Since my last flash, the phone works fine (calls, messaging, and Internet) except for one problem - the Android Market.
I can access the market but am unable to download anything. I've tried many different solutions, ROM's (JF2, JH2, and JH3), 3G/WiFi, internal settings, clearing the Market cache, Dalvik cache, etc., using Market Access and going outside of AT&T's allowed applications, all to no avail. It's the same whether I attempt to download after a fresh flash or after applying SRE. I've also tried Unleash the Beast.
Finally I decided to call AT&T to find out if there was a problem somewhere on their end.
Here's the weird thing:
The IMEI I have on the sticker under my battery is that of a Captivate and matches what they have on record. The representative I spoke to told me that the IMEI I have in my phone's menu is an iPhone IMEI.
With all that being said, I have two questions:
1) How did this happen?
2) How can I fix it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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What does your imei start with?

madjsp said:
What does your imei start with?
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The one in the software starts with 004999
The one on the sticker starts with 351863

Iphone imei starts with 011. That rep doesnt know what hes doingp

did you ask them to update youe imei number? would likly fix it, could have just been an accident, from what i have read about 10% of imei number are not unique so somehting could have gotten messed up server side

vinunleaded182 said:
Iphone imei starts with 011. That rep doesnt know what hes doingp
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also a quick google of the 0049 imei shows that there are several iphones with that imei

The rep who I've been working with is off today but she said she'd call me tomorrow. I'll ask her to update the number and hopefully she can.
Unfortunately, while I'm pretty much a noob to all this, I've found that I still know more than most of the people on the AT&T side and the rep I've been working with is the most knowledgeable of the group.

Did you go from an iphone to the samsung if so, it could be a translation issue on atts side which means the billing system never updated the imei to the switch because it errored out on the billing side happend all the time when i use to be a switch tech for att simple to fix just need to file a ticket with a certain department but can be a pain if the rep is new.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

I thought the phone read its IMEI number from its own hardware. This thread implies that something on the network is telling the phone what its IMEI Number should be.
I know there are a lot of Ebay phones with bogus stickers - the stickers have one SN/EMEI number, but the phone internally says another.
Where did you get your phone?

I've never owned an iPhone and I purchased the Captivate from a corporate store, not from an authorized reseller or ebay.

wait cant this be useful if we can change the imei to a vibrant one we can get money off of data or would most of you feel bad for doing that (one good thing about that though for 10 dollars we get unlimited data)

labbu63 said:
wait cant this be useful if we can change the imei to a vibrant one we can get money off of data or would most of you feel bad for doing that (one good thing about that though for 10 dollars we get unlimited data)
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You gotta pay to play. If you don't want to pay smartphone fees, don't get a smartphone. I'm sure we'd all like a break on price, but when it comes down to it, we can't get one, so we make do.
And unless the modmyi forum was wrong, that's illegal.

yeah i know but im just saying if someone isnt scared to go to jail

If the IMEI shows as 004999010640000, you might check out this thread. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777288
PS: you might want to look at this specific post in that thread.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8060884&postcount=33

BigJayDogg3 said:
You gotta pay to play. If you don't want to pay smartphone fees, don't get a smartphone. I'm sure we'd all like a break on price, but when it comes down to it, we can't get one, so we make do.
And unless the modmyi forum was wrong, that's illegal.
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actually i was just looking at the library of congress's recent ruling on the DMCA and their new excemptions and read this
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(3) Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that enable used wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telecommunications network, when circumvention is initiated by the owner of the copy of the computer program solely in order to connect to a wireless telecommunications network and access to the network is authorized by the operator of the network.
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sounds like to me that changing the imei is legal as long as the only reason you are doing it is to connect to a network that you are already authorized to use

xatrekak said:
actually i was just looking at the library of congress's recent ruling on the DMCA and their new excemptions and read this
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(3) Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that enable used wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telecommunications network, when circumvention is initiated by the owner of the copy of the computer program solely in order to connect to a wireless telecommunications network and access to the network is authorized by the operator of the network.
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sounds like to me that changing the imei is legal as long as the only reason you are doing it is to connect to a network that you are already authorized to use
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Changing The imei is illegal and has nothing to do with the DMCA. changing The imei is fraud like changing a car's vin number.
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alphadog00 i was wondering that, you wouldn't happen to be able to point out to me which law that is contained in, i have heard it was illegal like a million times but havn't seen the law yet. but i have always liked reading the actual laws that make the things i want to illegal

how do you know its illegal the DMCA was changed and said it was legal so until you find something that says its illegal we will never know

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how do you know its illegal the DMCA was changed and said it was legal so until you find something that says its illegal we will never know
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You are confusing unlocking with changing your IMEI. It is legal to unlock and hack, it is not legal to change the phone's network id.

xatrekak said:
alphadog00 i was wondering that, you wouldn't happen to be able to point out to me which law that is contained in, i have heard it was illegal like a million times but havn't seen the law yet. but i have always liked reading the actual laws that make the things i want to illegal
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I can't point to you an exact law, but cloning phones has been considered fraudulent for years and people have been prosecuted. In changing the IMEI number, you are in essence cloning a phone - it may not exist yet, but it could. So once a new phone is made with the new EMEI number you created, you have created fraud.
After doing some research - this is the section of federal code that is used to prosecute cell phone cloners:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00001029----000-.html
U.S. Code: TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > § 1029
§ 1029. Fraud and related activity in connection with access *devices
You may not get arrested for changing your IMEI (not one person anyway) but at some point the carrier will probably just black list your device or your account.
Changing the IMEI or ESN basically makes your device a counterfeit access device. Some debate that if they own 3 phones they should be able to let them all share one IMEI if only one is active at a time.
Personally, I can see no valid reason to change your IMEI - swapping sim cards is easy enough.

[Q] meid repair on Hero cdma (sprint)

To make a long story short, I recently purchased a used HTC Hero (sprint). After purchasing I played with the phone for a day or two to see what it can do (my first android phone, after being a Windows phone user) and in the process noticed that my esn was correct but my meid was all zeroes.
Now to skip thru all of the unnecessary stuff, I've been trying to change the meid back to what it should be, the number shown on the sticker below the battery. I've read every guide I can find on the internet. I've googled a hundred different times, I've done everything I can think of but I can't get qxdm to allow me to write the meid to the phone! After I zero out all esn locations, I attempt to write my meid. Everytime I get the same answer: Error response received from target.
Let me recap... I've tried downgrading the radio to stock (and tried other radios as well), downgrading to android 1.5, it's been rooted, I've scanned and scanned and scanned in cdma workshop to be sure I have all esn locations, with airplane mode on and off, I've done memory dumps then went thru them with a hex editor to be sure I haven't missed any esn locations, etc, etc.
After more than a week of trying to get this phone usable again, I don't know what to try next. I've reached the end of my known options with this phone, and could really use some help!!!

did you ever figure out the problem?

No, not yet. This seems to be a nearly dead topic around here, but hopefully someone can help me out.

I might have something that could work for you. Pm me if you want to give it a shot.
Locked & Loaded
""shooter on Deck""

budgreen did you send spc/msl before using the meid write command? example: spc 000000 (your msl/spc)
and please keep us updated if you get it fixed, hopefully between myself and laie1472 we can get you back up and running
message me if you need any more help

whoshotjr2006 said:
budgreen did you send spc/msl before using the meid write command? example: spc 000000 (your msl/spc)
and please keep us updated if you get it fixed, hopefully between myself and laie1472 we can get you back up and running
message me if you need any more help
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Yep, I did all that every time. And still no go. But, exploring some other options...I DID manage to finally get it. Thanks to help from you and from Klown80. I appreciate it big time.

woot awesome enjoy your repaired hero

Imei repair!! - mied=0

I know its illegal to change IMEI numbers for fraud, but its not illegal to repair your own IMEI number. I have researched, its only illegal to change it to something other than what it actually is. Repair is perfectly fine.
With that being said, at some point, my phone has 0'd out its own IMEI number. Under software it says MEID=0 and the phone carrier is not recognizing it, even though i have the actual IMEI number under the battery. I need to repair it internally so it can communicate with the network.
I know some of how to do this with cdma workshop, but the problem is that the imei is more digits than cdma workshop is allowing me to enter (and part of it is greyed out). Do i need a differnt version of cdma workshop, like a newer one than 2.7 or what do i need to do to fix my phone.
(I guess im also required to say this is for educational purposes only)
But i really just wanna FIX my phone. Thanks