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Like most Droid 3 owners I'm sure, I'm tired of paying ~$105 a month for cellphone service through Verizon that I could be paying ~$70 a month for through T-Mobile.
I've read the other thread here associated with unlocking the GSM portion of the Droid 3, but a lot of it seems to be shrouded in maybes and varied successes with a limited pool of test devices to draw on.
From what I gather thus far, the following is true:
- You can unlock the GSM capability of the Droid 3
- You can operate it on T-Mobile
- If you do, you will only get "Edge" connection speeds - No T-Mobile HSPA+ or 3G speeds. "Edge" only, at 512 kb or something like that.
Can anyone confirm this? Is there a way to get a Droid 3 to operate on T-Mobile's network at full speed?
Is there a more reliable and easier to use method to convert a stock VZW Droid 3 to something operable on T-Mobile?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can accurately answer these questions.
The only thing I've seen that works is using the xt883 Chinese ROM and it only gets edge. Edge is fine for me, but I want a better ROM with access to Android market.
Im still learning how this device works; I just installed Safestrap and tried to flash the GSM CM7 ROM today, to no avail. I flashed a custom ROM on my Droid 2 last year, but it's been a while on the G2x which isn't as locked down.
I flashed the CM7 GSM ROM on the safe mode partition, thinking that was how to do it, but I got an error trying to back anything up because /system wouldn't back up. Then when I flashed the ROM it wouldn't boot. Im wondering if I was supposed to flash the ordinary CDMA CM7 first, then use the GSM one, since it's named 3gedit.zip. I haven't tried that yet though, and the fact that /system isn't backing up worries me. I didn't create a partition on internal with Safestrap, but I flashed the GSM CM7 ROM from coreless in safe mode and it wouldn't boot. Got back to non-safe mode and my stock ROM was fine, but I still want to see a good back up :-/
Any ideas from more experienced users would be great. I'm pretty much a blind guinea pig right now lol. I just really want to see CM7 on this D3, and have it work on T-Mobile so I can retire my G2x for a little while.
Thanks in advance
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Tutorial
note: This is not tied to any specific rom, it is not using the chinese rom it is simply taking the radio off the chinese rom which is all we need. It hasn't changed anything to me in user space that I have noticed.
I would recommend unlocking, rooting, flashing the radio, and editing the build.prop.
1. Unlock or online sim card unlock code seller but less reliable.
a) Meet the following requirements:
* Must be a Verizon Wireless customer.
* The phone being unlocked must be active on a Verizon Wireless line of service.
* The line of service must be active at least 60 days.
* The line of service must be in good standing for the past 60 days.
* Only one SIM Unlock per line every 10 months.
b) If you don't meet one or more of the above requirements, call anyway. You may still get lucky.
Call 1-800-711-8300 (Verizon Global Support) and ask the representative for a SIM unlock. Occasionally a representative may not know exactly what you are referring to; make sure you are not transferred to a different department. You are in the right place. Explain that they should have a walkthrough on how to do this, and that it allows for the use of local, non-Verizon SIM cards while traveling abroad.
c) Insert a foreign SIM into the SIM card slot on the side of your phone and then enter unlock code.
4. root ----> http://www.psouza4.com/droid3/
5. safestrap and backup in case something goes wrong -----> http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/p/how-to-safestrap.html
6. chinese radio ----> http://dropbox.com/u/25454276/radio.zip
7. flash radio ----> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16206920/moto-fastboot-win32.zip
8. use something like root browser lite(free) to backup to sd card then edit your system/build.prop
gfunkmonk said:
All you have to do is flash the radio.img from SOLANA_SLNCT-57.1.60_Fastboot in fastboot mode
Code:
moto-fastboot flash radio radio.img
then add the following lines to the build.prop
Code:
persist.ril.rssi.enable.param6 = 1
persist.ril.baudrate=230400
I can confirm this works with an AT&T sim in an unlocked phone, tested with stock and liberty 2.0.
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I have called out, received a call and a text, I have checked my account information with the tmobile app on edge. I have been led to believe that its hardware that tmobile can only do edge since they use some non standard bands.
Credits:
flashing radio - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360157
unlocking - http://community.vzw.com/t5/iPhone-4S/Verizon-iPhone-4S-SIM-UNLOCK-Tutorial/td-p/696707
safestrap - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315982
Even if you go through all of that you I'll still have only EDGE because our radios don't use the 700 MHz. Just sell it and get a phone for T-Mobile.
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BenSWoodruff said:
The only thing I've seen that works is using the xt883 Chinese ROM and it only gets edge. Edge is fine for me, but I want a better ROM with access to Android market.
Im still learning how this device works; I just installed Safestrap and tried to flash the GSM CM7 ROM today, to no avail. I flashed a custom ROM on my Droid 2 last year, but it's been a while on the G2x which isn't as locked down.
I flashed the CM7 GSM ROM on the safe mode partition, thinking that was how to do it, but I got an error trying to back anything up because /system wouldn't back up. Then when I flashed the ROM it wouldn't boot. Im wondering if I was supposed to flash the ordinary CDMA CM7 first, then use the GSM one, since it's named 3gedit.zip. I haven't tried that yet though, and the fact that /system isn't backing up worries me. I didn't create a partition on internal with Safestrap, but I flashed the GSM CM7 ROM from coreless in safe mode and it wouldn't boot. Got back to non-safe mode and my stock ROM was fine, but I still want to see a good back up :-/
Any ideas from more experienced users would be great. I'm pretty much a blind guinea pig right now lol. I just really want to see CM7 on this D3, and have it work on T-Mobile so I can retire my G2x for a little while.
Thanks in advance
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go here http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/p/how-to-safestrap.html
Thanks for replying. That's where I wound up going on my own because I was trying to use his CM7 last night. Can't seem to get it to flash though. Backing up with Safestrap isn't working either...getting an error because /system won't backup for some reason.
I think I'm gonna flash everything back to stock, uninstall Safestrap, and try the above from the beginning. I'd like to see if I can at least get edge and below on T-Mobile using a US ROM.
Thanks again!
G2x with CM7
D3 stock for now, trying to get T-Mobile compatibility
anathema_forever said:
I would recommend unlocking, rooting, flashing the radio, and editing the build.prop.
1. Unlock or online sim card unlock code seller but less reliable.
a) Meet the following requirements:
* Must be a Verizon Wireless customer.
* The phone being unlocked must be active on a Verizon Wireless line of service.
* The line of service must be active at least 60 days.
* The line of service must be in good standing for the past 60 days.
* Only one SIM Unlock per line every 10 months.
b) If you don't meet one or more of the above requirements, call anyway. You may still get lucky.
Call 1-800-711-8300 (Verizon Global Support) and ask the representative for a SIM unlock. Occasionally a representative may not know exactly what you are referring to; make sure you are not transferred to a different department. You are in the right place. Explain that they should have a walkthrough on how to do this, and that it allows for the use of local, non-Verizon SIM cards while traveling abroad.
c) Insert a foreign SIM into the SIM card slot on the side of your phone and then enter unlock code.
4. root ----> http://www.psouza4.com/droid3/
5. safestrap and backup in case something goes wrong -----> http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/p/how-to-safestrap.html
6. chinese radio ----> http://dropbox.com/u/25454276/radio.zip
7. flash radio ----> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16206920/moto-fastboot-win32.zip
8. use something like root browser lite(free) to backup to sd card then edit your system/build.prop
I have called out, received a call and a text, I have checked my account information with the tmobile app on edge. I have been led to believe that its hardware that tmobile can only do edge since they use some non standard bands.
Credits:
flashing radio - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360157
unlocking - http://community.vzw.com/t5/iPhone-4S/Verizon-iPhone-4S-SIM-UNLOCK-Tutorial/td-p/696707
safestrap - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315982
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So, I have a couple of lines on VZW, but they are all used by family members on my account, and I don't have a VZW SIM. The guy who sold me the phone said he already unlocked it, and I believe him, but is the SIM an issue and is there any way to know if the phone is still unlocked? Can an unlock be undone after wiping internal sd?
I'm asking because I think I can just not worry about that step, but I want to double check. I put it back to stock 2.3.4, now showing 5.6.890 xt862 instead of whatever the xt883 was. I did this to get rid of the previous owner's Google account. Edge, calling and text were working on T-Mo when I bought the D3 a few days ago. When I put my SIM in now, however, and change it to GSM/UMTS mode, there are no operators available when I tap on the list and of course it doesn't work yet. I understand this is due to putting it back on stock lol, but I'm gonna go ahead and try flashing the radio and seeing what happens.
It's already rooted using zergrush. Has safestrap and I can boot into it by rebooting/pressing menu, but my /system folder won't back up. That's the only sign that something is wrong other than the fact that no ROMs will flash in safe mode. I've already left comments on Hash's site, so I'm waiting over there too. Figured I'd pop in here again real quick
Thanks.
UPDATE (from the other forum):
My Droid 3 is working on T-Mobile for voice and text. This is exactly what I wanted. Got some great in-depth help on this one, especially from @tspx23. Thanks a ton! This will be my daily driver now until we switch to VZW, at which point this will turn into a back up, unless I fail to find something else worth a contract at that point lol.
I might write a guide later on if anyone wants it. The process is easier than it seems, as long as you have it in plain english lol.
Thanks to anyone who contributed to this!
Is it possible to mix this with a current rom instead of flashing a random Chinese one, like infuse with cm7 or liberty?
Tmo has horrible coverage and awful customer service. Cs is all nice to you but lies about everything constantly. They did nothing but screw me. That's the whole reason I'm on verizon now. At least now I have coverage and won't be lied to whether or not I have it, or be told to get wifi and then u can make calls since u don't have service.
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I don't know of anyway besides a sim card to check if its unlocked and I am not sure a verizon one would ask for the sim unlock code even if it was locked but sim cards can be really cheap. If your phone was unlocked that will never be undone, if it was working on tmobile before you reverted to stock then it is unlocked, it would not have worked using tmobile otherwise.
are you using the latest version of safestrap, he released a bugfix version pretty recently? Could you be more descriptive of what you did while in safestrap?
It is not rom specific as far as I know, I am just using the stock one.
@Darksurf, I agree. I never had them but before I moved they didn't cover my old town. Verizon may be expensive but at least they tell you they will rape you at front and explain all charges.
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you can also try with at&t in full3g. As they have the same bands the d3 has
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I will see tomorrow if this works with ICS
Radio and build prop edit
I'm staying on T-Mo till they go under. They are cheap and I have unlimited Edge, which is all I can get on this phone anyway lol. Only ten bucks a month for data, since I have an older package from before they tried to hike their rates.
My D3 is having some issues after I reboot, and sometimes just randomly, it will lose all signal and tell me that my preferred operator cannot be found or error connecting. I have been just rebooting and sometimes wiggling my SIM around to see if it fixes, and it does.
Only other thing that is a little weird is my phone thinks it's an xt883, even though I'm on the stock VZW ROM. I'm wondering if this is causing some issues that I'm not qualified to really diagnose lol. Usually after I reboot, I have some of my google apps' names in Chinese, but I'm not sure if that is from radio.img, new build.prop, or from changing my bloatware to .bak.
Also, be advised that if you remove bloat, conversations.apk breaks incoming text if it isn't seen by the system. I added .bak to the end of it and could send texts to my wife, but couldn't get any messages. I changed it back and texting works fine. I use Chomp SMS, but that didn't seem to matter.
Have fun
P/S: also, when choosing operators in settings, you have the option for T-Mobile 2G, AT&T 2G or 3G. Just to confirm ;-) probably because AT&T's 3G bands are the international standard, right?
when you flashed the stock rom back onto it did you delete the /system partition and do a factory reset on your device before you did it?
ericerk said:
Is it possible to mix this with a current rom instead of flashing a random Chinese one, like infuse with cm7 or liberty?
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I'd love to see someone put these mods into a ROM, but I'm not sure if any of it is compatible with existing ROMs. I also accomplished this on stock. When I get around to flashing CM7 again (or trying to at least lol), I'll post about how it goes.
I'm thinking that when I wiped my phone, the unlock remained but the radio.img that was on the Chinese ROM was undone or lost. Flashing it was easy though, using cmd mentioned earlier in this thread. I just needed help figuring out how to set it up, since I'm a noob at command line lol.
After that, I downloaded adb and tried to use other commands I've found (which claimed to work, but didn't for me somehow) to change out the build.prop. This failure was likely my fault lol but I found it easier to just use Root Browser lite to back up my original build.prop then replace it with the modified one.
I figure that if my SIM doesn't work after flashing some other ROM, I'll just try the two main steps again and see if it works then. If anyone really wants to do this, it isn't too hard or not worth it in my mind. I also figure this phone will be relevant enough for a while longer, considering I am cool with Edge speeds, I certainly won't mind being stuck with VZW's 3G whenever we change over. I am in no hurry to get LTE battery suck or bulkiness either. I'll wait for a little more refining to be done on that end before I upgrade from this phone
I am interested in making the phone compatible on T-Mobile / ATT by flashing XT883 radio. I have one question: Will the "unlocking" turn the phone completely GSM phone so it can no longer work on CDMA network?
Thanks.
Probably until you flash the Verizon ROM back I would assume.
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No. XT883 is also CDMA compatible, so the ability to use CDMA should stay. You might need to do *228 though.
You unlock the phone via carrier unlock code, e.g. they give you a code via email or over the phone allowing your gsm functions to work with foreign sim cards (other than the one they come with). After getting the unlock code and flashing the xt883 radio.img (and changing/replacing your build.prop) you can still choose to use cdma. Flashing this radio (which I'm currently using on T-Mobile) doesn't make your phone incompatible with cdma and is reversible. You would simply have to flash the original radio.img and change back your build.prop, or just flash a regular cdma ROM. I plan to do this some time next year if/when T-Mobile goes under and my wife and I switch to Verizon. In the mean time, I only get edge on T-Mobile (using it on AT&T will get 3g), but I have cheap and unlimited data (legacy data plan $10) and a great phone with keyboard. I'm using the stock ROM, rooted, but will eventually try CM7 with the gsm tweak. I will likely have to reflash the xt883 radio.img and change my build.prop (I think).
Droid 3 with stock xt862 ROM working on T-Mobile via xt883 radio.img
BenSWoodruff said:
You unlock the phone via carrier unlock code, e.g. they give you a code via email or over the phone allowing your gsm functions to work with foreign sim cards (other than the one they come with). After getting the unlock code and flashing the xt883 radio.img (and changing/replacing your build.prop) you can still choose to use cdma. Flashing this radio (which I'm currently using on T-Mobile) doesn't make your phone incompatible with cdma and is reversible. You would simply have to flash the original radio.img and change back your build.prop, or just flash a regular cdma ROM. I plan to do this some time next year if/when T-Mobile goes under and my wife and I switch to Verizon. In the mean time, I only get edge on T-Mobile (using it on AT&T will get 3g), but I have cheap and unlimited data (legacy data plan $10) and a great phone with keyboard. I'm using the stock ROM, rooted, but will eventually try CM7 with the gsm tweak. I will likely have to reflash the xt883 radio.img and change my build.prop (I think).
Droid 3 with stock xt862 ROM working on T-Mobile via xt883 radio.img
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i wasn't able to flash the chineese rom, idk why it just wouldn't let me :/
The wife and I have Atrix HD phones that we bought used but in great condition a couple months ago. We purchased the Straight Talk at&t compatible micro sim kits from walmart.com and set up our service. We previously had Samsung Captivates also on Straight Talk and they worked flawlessly. I put in my APN settings and I get data and MMS perfectly but occasionally I get a red triangle where my signal bars should be and my phone says "Emergency Calls Only" and I will wait 30 seconds or so and my signal returns. There is no steady decline in signal that leads up to this. It goes from like 4 bars to a red triangle with a cross inside it.
I live in a fair sized town and have always had 3 or more bars of at&t service with phones in the past so I do not think its an issue with poor coverage. I am attaching pictures of my APN settings.
Any help would be appreciated.
Applehater87 said:
The wife and I have Atrix HD phones that we bought used but in great condition a couple months ago. We purchased the Straight Talk at&t compatible micro sim kits from walmart.com and set up our service. We previously had Samsung Captivates also on Straight Talk and they worked flawlessly. I put in my APN settings and I get data and MMS perfectly but occasionally I get a red triangle where my signal bars should be and my phone says "Emergency Calls Only" and I will wait 30 seconds or so and my signal returns. There is no steady decline in signal that leads up to this. It goes from like 4 bars to a red triangle with a cross inside it.
I live in a fair sized town and have always had 3 or more bars of at&t service with phones in the past so I do not think its an issue with poor coverage. I am attaching pictures of my APN settings.
Any help would be appreciated.
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I'm having the exact same issue since switching to to the 4G LTE micro sim. It only seems to happen on mine when I'm connected to Wifi though. I get the red triangle intermittently. This never happened to me until I went from the old sim to the new one. Can't find anything on it yet.
same thing
The same thing is happening to me here as well but using a Net10 LTE sim card (same as straight talk basically). I notice it the most after I complete a phone call. It takes a minute or two to regain service again. This is really annoying. Would like to see a solution to this problem.
So I worked with Straight Talk support for about 5 days, back and forth, bounced to several reps throughout and nothing substantial has come of it. It seems a little better after they made "adjustments" to my account as they put it, but I still get disconnected from mobile data when on wifi.
Don't get me wrong, their support people were very responsive and seemed to genuinely want to help me, but in the end they said "your ticket has been open for more than 24 hours so it has been closed. If you continue to have issues please open a new ticket." Anyone else have any luck on this?
I also was having this problem found that if you edit existing att apn (phone needs to be rooted)with sqlite editor it seems to work fine.
tether also works fine this way.I am still not able to get lte to work with straight talk even with new sim.
Just to follow up. As usual, it seems with ST support, one rep tells me they have some things they can try once I call back on another line and then I get a new rep who says nothing can be done until 10 people complain about the exact same issue I'm having. I'm assured this is an isolated incident...
I went ahead and purchased a new SIM card (looks different than the first LTE card I had) in case I had a faulty SIM. Worked flawlessly for a day and now it's back to the same issue of cutting out completely throughout the day.
same problem here on wifi get red triangle (especially after phone call).
More since i switched from 4g sim card to lte sim noticed that data disconnect from time to time like make impossible to watch video flawlessly...
with old 4g was yes only 4g but never loss a bite....could watch anything also streaming tv.....now it is impossible.....
the end of the month going to switch to old sim and see if the problem is in the new sim cards they tried may be to limit access or is in the new service doesn't matter what sim card you possess..
we'll see...
htchd2fix said:
same problem here on wifi get red triangle (especially after phone call).
More since i switched from 4g sim card to lte sim noticed that data disconnect from time to time like make impossible to watch video flawlessly...
with old 4g was yes only 4g but never loss a bite....could watch anything also streaming tv.....now it is impossible.....
the end of the month going to switch to old sim and see if the problem is in the new sim cards they tried may be to limit access or is in the new service doesn't matter what sim card you possess..
we'll see...
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Switching to my old sim was my first thought to. However when I tried it didn't work. I called ST and they informed me that once you switch sims, the old one can never be reactivated. On top of that they don't offer the non LTE sims anymore. Such a pain. Hope you have better luck though.
pentjaksilat8 said:
Switching to my old sim was my first thought to. However when I tried it didn't work. I called ST and they informed me that once you switch sims, the old one can never be reactivated. On top of that they don't offer the non LTE sims anymore. Such a pain. Hope you have better luck though.
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Some one could correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm pretty sure this is a result of ROMS using a 4.4 rom. Modem crashes. If you want to test it run a Stock ROM... If you are already using a completely stock ROM then Idk what to tell you. But same thing happens to me using any version besides stock. And yes only when on WiFi
metalmike6 said:
Some one could correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm pretty sure this is a result of ROMS using a 4.4 rom. Modem crashes. If you want to test it run a Stock ROM... If you are already using a completely stock ROM then Idk what to tell you. But same thing happens to me using any version besides stock. And yes only when on WiFi
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I'm on a 100% stock ROM, I haven't unlocked my boot loader, just rooted.
pentjaksilat8 said:
I'm on a 100% stock ROM, I haven't unlocked my boot loader, just rooted.
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Then unlock your bootloader and try flashing different radios from the different stock fastboots we have. Depending on the fastboot I can have next to none or almost full in my bedroom. For me, ATT JB is in the middle, JB Mex Retail is the best, Bell ICS is the worst. ATT ICS was about the same as ATT JB.
skeevydude said:
Then unlock your bootloader and try flashing different radios from the different stock fastboots we have. Depending on the fastboot I can have next to none or almost full in my bedroom. For me, ATT JB is in the middle, JB Mex Retail is the best, Bell ICS is the worst. ATT ICS was about the same as ATT JB.
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For the time being, I just switched to Aio and so far so good with LTE coverage and no disconnecting issues. If they return I'll try different radios as you suggested.
So I've been with Aio for about a week now and everything is working great (knock on wood). I've had 2 mobile data drops at work with Wifi turned on, but they only lasted for a second and I do have really bad reception here inside the building. Outside of that no issues at all so far. I'll update if anything changes.
Hello,
I just retired my venerable Samsung T699 Relay 4G (RIP QWERTY Keyboard) and, just picked up an unlocked, "refurbished" AT&T Note 3 for pretty cheap (it was sold as an "International" model, so I didn't know it was an AT&T version until I got it). I've had T-Mobile service for the last couple of years, and the big draw, for me, is WiFi calling/SMS; I've installed SafeStrap and been trying some T-Mobile ROMs, but can't seem to get WiFi calling to work. Obviously I've got a T-Mobile SIM card, and I've tried changing/adding APNs, and installing different builds of KitKat (some of which won't even boot - NB4 and NF9 seem to work best), but I still can't get it to work properly. I've been racking my brain and searching the Interspace for the last two weeks with no luck... what am I missing? Is it even possible?
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
As a fellow N900A user on Tmobile, I have been trying to get wifi calling as well.
I tried using a tmobile stock rom with wifi calling baked in (tweaked), but that did not work. I was told that I need to add an emergency 911 address, but even doing this did not do it.
I would think that wifi calling is doable, but something tells me that tmobile might be doing something similar to Verizon. Rumor was that Verizon had a list of IMEIs, and if your IMEI was not on their list, you couldn't bring the phone over to Verizon, even if it were CDMA capable (once again, this is rumor as I cannot confirm this is true).
The closest I have been to getting wifi calling through tmobile was having the settings show on the stock tmobile rom, but that was about it. Maybe someone in the forums has an answer/got it working, but I have yet to see one. I'll keep you posted if I somehow get it to work, but something tells me this won't happen for a while.
AresRising said:
Hello,
I just retired my venerable Samsung T699 Relay 4G (RIP QWERTY Keyboard) and, just picked up an unlocked, "refurbished" AT&T Note 3 for pretty cheap (it was sold as an "International" model, so I didn't know it was an AT&T version until I got it). I've had T-Mobile service for the last couple of years, and the big draw, for me, is WiFi calling/SMS; I've installed SafeStrap and been trying some T-Mobile ROMs, but can't seem to get WiFi calling to work. Obviously I've got a T-Mobile SIM card, and I've tried changing/adding APNs, and installing different builds of KitKat (some of which won't even boot - NB4 and NF9 seem to work best), but I still can't get it to work properly. I've been racking my brain and searching the Interspace for the last two weeks with no luck... what am I missing? Is it even possible?
Thanks in advance!
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gangpe said:
Hello,
As a fellow N900A user on Tmobile, I have been trying to get wifi calling as well.
I tried using a tmobile stock rom with wifi calling baked in (tweaked), but that did not work. I was told that I need to add an emergency 911 address, but even doing this did not do it.
I would think that wifi calling is doable, but something tells me that tmobile might be doing something similar to Verizon. Rumor was that Verizon had a list of IMEIs, and if your IMEI was not on their list, you couldn't bring the phone over to Verizon, even if it were CDMA capable (once again, this is rumor as I cannot confirm this is true).
The closest I have been to getting wifi calling through tmobile was having the settings show on the stock tmobile rom, but that was about it. Maybe someone in the forums has an answer/got it working, but I have yet to see one. I'll keep you posted if I somehow get it to work, but something tells me this won't happen for a while.
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Yeah, considering I have zero service with any provider where I live (but 4G LTE 100 yards down the street), WiFi services were the single reason I went with T-Mobile. Considering the Unlocking Bill, one wouldn't think a carrier could block IMEIs from being used on another carrier... but I have a hard time reading the fine print, so there is that.
I've tried several of the stock T-Mobile ROMs, and while WiFi calling was there, it simply wouldn't enable; it would try to enable, but never would. Have you contacted T-Mobile and asked if there are any potential fixes? I'm considering doing that, but am worried that they'll say "Oh, that's your IMEI, looks like you can't use it on our network SORRYABOUTYOURLUCK!"
I have contacted tmobile about this before.
Their response was that they did not know why it did not work. They helped me set up the emergency 911 address, but they said when it comes to other hardware they couldn't give me a reason why it wouldn't work.
I remember dwetherill (sp?) mention that some n900a users were able to get wifi calling on their phones. I don't know if the modem can/will affect wifi calling, but at this point it's the easier thing to test.
I'm on the NJ5 modem - I might try testing out NC2.
Have you tried carl's TMB version of the norma stable rom? Check it out if you haven't. Wifi calling is supposed to connect automatically. I haven't seen it work yet, but I'll keep you posted if somehow I get it to work.
AresRising said:
Yeah, considering I have zero service with any provider where I live (but 4G LTE 100 yards down the street), WiFi services were the single reason I went with T-Mobile. Considering the Unlocking Bill, one wouldn't think a carrier could block IMEIs from being used on another carrier... but I have a hard time reading the fine print, so there is that.
I've tried several of the stock T-Mobile ROMs, and while WiFi calling was there, it simply wouldn't enable; it would try to enable, but never would. Have you contacted T-Mobile and asked if there are any potential fixes? I'm considering doing that, but am worried that they'll say "Oh, that's your IMEI, looks like you can't use it on our network SORRYABOUTYOURLUCK!"
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I have contacted tmobile about this before.
Their response was that they did not know why it did not work. They helped me set up the emergency 911 address, but they said when it comes to other hardware they couldn't give me a reason why it wouldn't work.
I remember dwetherill (sp?) mention that some n900a users were able to get wifi calling on their phones. I don't know if the modem can/will affect wifi calling, but at this point it's the easier thing to test.
I'm on the NJ5 modem - I might try testing out NC2.
Have you tried carl's TMB version of the norma stable rom? Check it out if you haven't. Wifi calling is supposed to connect automatically. I haven't seen it work yet, but I'll keep you posted if somehow I get it to work.
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I'm on NC2, and haven't gotten anything to work as of yet... I've been looking for modem threads, but I guess I need to look a little harder. I'll search that ROM out and give it a shot, and let you know if it works with NC2. Thanks for the heads-up! :good:
So I tried NC2 modem, and it is not allowing for wifi calling.
I went to tmobile yesterday to get another line added. Rumor on the tmobile side is that AT&T is working to get wifi calling setup for the n900a's by around April. Take it as a rumor at this point, seeing how it came from tmobile, but the rep made a good point - AT&T tends to follow what tmobile is doing, so who knows.
Here's to hoping they're right.
BTW, I went to the note 4 tmobile forums, and I grabbed a deodexed stock rom. I noticed that there were a few files related to wifi calling (had WFC in the name). I tried playing around with it last night, and I managed to get the settings. It will even go so far as to turn the phone GSM radio off when you select wifi only. It's doing what Tweaked was doing for me (which was keeping the wifi calling option grayed out (enabling). I think I'm still missing a few files to get it to work, but I'll keep playing around with it later and let you know if I have any success.
AresRising said:
I'm on NC2, and haven't gotten anything to work as of yet... I've been looking for modem threads, but I guess I need to look a little harder. I'll search that ROM out and give it a shot, and let you know if it works with NC2. Thanks for the heads-up! :good:
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So I tried NC2 modem, and it is not allowing for wifi calling.
I went to tmobile yesterday to get another line added. Rumor on the tmobile side is that AT&T is working to get wifi calling setup for the n900a's by around April. Take it as a rumor at this point, seeing how it came from tmobile, but the rep made a good point - AT&T tends to follow what tmobile is doing, so who knows.
Here's to hoping they're right.
BTW, I went to the note 4 tmobile forums, and I grabbed a deodexed stock rom. I noticed that there were a few files related to wifi calling (had WFC in the name). I tried playing around with it last night, and I managed to get the settings. It will even go so far as to turn the phone GSM radio off when you select wifi only. It's doing what Tweaked was doing for me (which was keeping the wifi calling option grayed out (enabling). I think I'm still missing a few files to get it to work, but I'll keep playing around with it later and let you know if I have any success.
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I wonder how that would work regarding using a T-Mobile SIM in the AT&T phone, and if it could support cross-carrier features like that.
You're a braver soul than I, that's for sure. If I knew anything about what I was looking at/for, I'd be more than willing to help get this nut cracked... otherwise, I look forward to your findings!
Hell of a story, I apologize in advance for the length, but maybe it'll be intriguing to some of you. Pure Nexus rom as of i think april 23rd?
I have a Nexus 6 that I bought 2 years ago in April on Verizon (purchased from verizon). My contract ran out April 27th, went to AT&T with my girlfriend because I was going to get on her plan to save money on our phone bills. Ported over the number to my N6 fine. But I noticed I only got an H+ symbol, no LTE. I asked the guy if that was normal, he said yes. I got data and could make calls so I figured it was fine. Did some speed tests, 2 mb/down at best. My GF was getting 15-20 in the same spot on her Galaxy S7.
Long part of this story short, the tech they put me on the phone with said it was due to it being a Verizon variant and was not capable of full LTE speeds on AT&T. I went to the Verizon store and asked if they could put me back under Verizon after explaining the problem. He said sure, and then worked up pricing to have my GF switch to Verizon with me instead, and to get a Pixel XL.
So far so good, they had to do a temporary number for me because there's issues porting a number twice in a 24 hour span, but they cleared it up, got my real number ported, happy camper, good speeds. Except this one issue.
Now when I'm on the phone (actual phone call), my data drops. The LTE signal actually disappears, and nothing displays except signal bars. As soon as the phone call is over, it comes back. I never had the problem before this whole back and forth mess. I can't seem to figure out any options to make it not do this. I was thinking about reflashing my rom in case that would help, maybe something got messed up in the switch back and forth to GSM and then back to CDMA?
Morpherios said:
Hell of a story, I apologize in advance for the length, but maybe it'll be intriguing to some of you. Pure Nexus rom as of i think april 23rd?
I have a Nexus 6 that I bought 2 years ago in April on Verizon (purchased from verizon). My contract ran out April 27th, went to AT&T with my girlfriend because I was going to get on her plan to save money on our phone bills. Ported over the number to my N6 fine. But I noticed I only got an H+ symbol, no LTE. I asked the guy if that was normal, he said yes. I got data and could make calls so I figured it was fine. Did some speed tests, 2 mb/down at best. My GF was getting 15-20 in the same spot on her Galaxy S7.
Long part of this story short, the tech they put me on the phone with said it was due to it being a Verizon variant and was not capable of full LTE speeds on AT&T. I went to the Verizon store and asked if they could put me back under Verizon after explaining the problem. He said sure, and then worked up pricing to have my GF switch to Verizon with me instead, and to get a Pixel XL.
So far so good, they had to do a temporary number for me because there's issues porting a number twice in a 24 hour span, but they cleared it up, got my real number ported, happy camper, good speeds. Except this one issue.
Now when I'm on the phone (actual phone call), my data drops. The LTE signal actually disappears, and nothing displays except signal bars. As soon as the phone call is over, it comes back. I never had the problem before this whole back and forth mess. I can't seem to figure out any options to make it not do this. I was thinking about reflashing my rom in case that would help, maybe something got messed up in the switch back and forth to GSM and then back to CDMA?
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Try to unlock bootloader, install TWRP, root the stock rom, then install lastest bootloader (v72.03) and latest radio (v05.45):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052
Use WUG Fresh NRT tool to accomplish above when hooked to Windows PC via microUSB in 2.0 USB port with correct Windows drivers installed (OK for ADB): https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
HueyT said:
Try to unlock bootloader, install TWRP, root the stock rom, then install lastest bootloader (v72.03) and latest radio (v05.45):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052
Use WUG Fresh NRT tool to accomplish above when hooked to Windows PC via microUSB in 2.0 USB port with correct Windows drivers installed (OK for ADB): https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
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I'm already unlocked, rooted, TWRP'd and using the PureNexus that came out end of april (I haven't flashed the one in may yet). I believe I'm also currently using the latest radio and latest bootloader.
Edit - I actually was not on the most recent radio, but I did flash that, no change.
The volte provisioned flag turned on in the testing menu? I have a setting for enhanced 4g lte mode in my settings, wireless networks/more/cellular networks settings. Did they remove the advanced calling from your account? Just throwing some things out there.
Morpherios said:
Hell of a story, I apologize in advance for the length, but maybe it'll be intriguing to some of you. Pure Nexus rom as of i think april 23rd?
I have a Nexus 6 that I bought 2 years ago in April on Verizon (purchased from verizon). My contract ran out April 27th, went to AT&T with my girlfriend because I was going to get on her plan to save money on our phone bills. Ported over the number to my N6 fine. But I noticed I only got an H+ symbol, no LTE. I asked the guy if that was normal, he said yes. I got data and could make calls so I figured it was fine. Did some speed tests, 2 mb/down at best. My GF was getting 15-20 in the same spot on her Galaxy S7.
Long part of this story short, the tech they put me on the phone with said it was due to it being a Verizon variant and was not capable of full LTE speeds on AT&T. I went to the Verizon store and asked if they could put me back under Verizon after explaining the problem. He said sure, and then worked up pricing to have my GF switch to Verizon with me instead, and to get a Pixel XL.
So far so good, they had to do a temporary number for me because there's issues porting a number twice in a 24 hour span, but they cleared it up, got my real number ported, happy camper, good speeds. Except this one issue.
Now when I'm on the phone (actual phone call), my data drops. The LTE signal actually disappears, and nothing displays except signal bars. As soon as the phone call is over, it comes back. I never had the problem before this whole back and forth mess. I can't seem to figure out any options to make it not do this. I was thinking about reflashing my rom in case that would help, maybe something got messed up in the switch back and forth to GSM and then back to CDMA?
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The tech may not be wrong as Verizon uses band 13 as their main LTE band and ATT uses band 17
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chea...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
Morpherios said:
Hell of a story, I apologize in advance for the length, but maybe it'll be intriguing to some of you. Pure Nexus rom as of i think april 23rd?
I have a Nexus 6 that I bought 2 years ago in April on Verizon (purchased from verizon). My contract ran out April 27th, went to AT&T with my girlfriend because I was going to get on her plan to save money on our phone bills. Ported over the number to my N6 fine. But I noticed I only got an H+ symbol, no LTE. I asked the guy if that was normal, he said yes. I got data and could make calls so I figured it was fine. Did some speed tests, 2 mb/down at best. My GF was getting 15-20 in the same spot on her Galaxy S7.
Long part of this story short, the tech they put me on the phone with said it was due to it being a Verizon variant and was not capable of full LTE speeds on AT&T. I went to the Verizon store and asked if they could put me back under Verizon after explaining the problem. He said sure, and then worked up pricing to have my GF switch to Verizon with me instead, and to get a Pixel XL.
So far so good, they had to do a temporary number for me because there's issues porting a number twice in a 24 hour span, but they cleared it up, got my real number ported, happy camper, good speeds. Except this one issue.
Now when I'm on the phone (actual phone call), my data drops. The LTE signal actually disappears, and nothing displays except signal bars. As soon as the phone call is over, it comes back. I never had the problem before this whole back and forth mess. I can't seem to figure out any options to make it not do this. I was thinking about reflashing my rom in case that would help, maybe something got messed up in the switch back and forth to GSM and then back to CDMA?
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In others countries we don't get the same bands management, then I can't say anything about LTE.
But I'm on PureNexus 7.1.1 and I get the same "issue" about network droppin when calling. When the call starts, my phone turns into don't disturb-mode and recover the network only when the phone call ends.. It doesn't really cut my network connection, but it looks like. It may be rom settings.
However I don't care as long as everything works good, it's just an icon. (how a phone call can be done while network is shutted off ^^)
When I was on the stock ROM, this autumn, 7.1 version of Android did the same thing, loosing data connection while being still connected to the network (but at anytime not just phonecalls). Finding it back some minutes later. That was fixed with 7.1.1. Stock.
Hope that might help you (looks not ) if it's the same problem. May be give an eye to the Rom settings..
Have you tried if your device do the same thing with an another Rom ? (stock for example)
Larzzzz82 said:
The volte provisioned flag turned on in the testing menu? I have a setting for enhanced 4g lte mode in my settings, wireless networks/more/cellular networks settings. Did they remove the advanced calling from your account? Just throwing some things out there.
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I knew something looked like it was missing. I don't have any enhanced 4g LTE settings in that section. Normally there's a tick box to turn it on there. It's missing. Is that due to them not having it turned on in my account?
Also for everyone else, this problem only started when I tried the whole at&t switch. I was on this rom when I switched and it worked fine before then. I didn't factory reset since then though, wondering if I need to try that.
zelendel said:
The tech may not be wrong as Verizon uses band 13 as their main LTE band and ATT uses band 17
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chea...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
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The tech is definitely wrong; since it's a Nexus 6 (presumably XT1103) it has all the possible LTE bands used in the US. There should not have been any issue when switching. I had something similar happen to me, when I just switched to verizon and did the "reset network settings" button, it screwed up my phone so I couldn't use LTE period, I had to reflash the modem in order to fix it. I know you already said you reflashed the modem, but I'm not sure what to suggest. There is absolutely nothing physically wrong or incapable about your phone, just some config got screwed up somewhere along the way. I'd just try to flash as many things as you're comfortable with without losing your userdata. Like modem, bootloader, etc. until your data comes back. If nothing else, press the network settings reset button and flash the latest modem. Make sure your twrp is up to date as well.
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The tech is definitely wrong; since it's a Nexus 6 (presumably XT1103) it has all the possible LTE bands used in the US. There should not have been any issue when switching. I had something similar happen to me, when I just switched to verizon and did the "reset network settings" button, it screwed up my phone so I couldn't use LTE period, I had to reflash the modem in order to fix it. I know you already said you reflashed the modem, but I'm not sure what to suggest. There is absolutely nothing physically wrong or incapable about your phone, just some config got screwed up somewhere along the way. I'd just try to flash as many things as you're comfortable with without losing your userdata. Like modem, bootloader, etc. until your data comes back. If nothing else, press the network settings reset button and flash the latest modem. Make sure your twrp is up to date as well.
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I think i'm going to reflash my rom today. I did the modem, twrp is up to date, bootloader is fine. I did the reset network settings (I was sure that was going to fix it, no dice). So I'm going to reflash the rom today and see if that fixes it. After that I have no idea what is left to try other than reverting to stock, which I'd like to avoid.
Yes, it is a feature that needs to be added to your account. Go online and check their website or go into the hidden menu and activate it. If it sticks, it's on your account.
I tried the wifi and video calling flags and they didn't stick. Go figure... C'MON big red...
Larzzzz82 said:
Yes, it is a feature that needs to be added to your account. Go online and check their website or go into the hidden menu and activate it. If it sticks, it's on your account.
I tried the wifi and video calling flags and they didn't stick. Go figure... C'MON big red...
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How do you enter the hidden menu on the n6? I thought I found it but it wasn't working.
.#.#4636#.#. select the phone info tab. In there, there will be either a drop down menu or buttons to tick and they'll change color
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.#.#4636#.#. select the phone info tab. In there, there will be either a drop down menu or buttons to tick and they'll change color
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I got in, VoLTE was not ticked. I ticked it. I got the setting for it then in settings. But making a phone call gave me an error. I rebooted, and it's not ticked now. So does that mean I need to call Verizon to have them flag my account?
You need to add it in your account then. Easy enough to do online. You want to, "manage features."
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You need to add it in your account then. Easy enough to do online. You want to, "manage features."
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That did the trick. All fixed. Thank you! That was driving me nuts. I never considered the idea that the setting would be turned off . But since I did leave and come back...
Thanks again!
Glad you're all set. ?
I am contemplating purchase of one of these phones, and tried entering some of their IMEI numbers in the imei checker at https://www.t-mobile.com/resources/bring-your-own-phone , and was shocked to find they are ALL described as "Incompatible".
This is a bit confusing after the articles saying the AT&T and Verizon versions would not work after Jan 2021 but that the T-Mobile version would continue working. I tried looking for a later article saying that support for the T-Mobile version this model was being cancelled but could not find any such announcement.
Is that IMEI checker correct? Or is it because the samples I checked may not have gotten the last modem update installed from T-Mobile?
Is anyone still using this phone (specifically the T variant) on T-Mobile in USA? I'm assuming that last update will be important, but does this still work once it is installed?
If yes to the above, do phone calls work as VoLTE, or is it doing the fallback to 2G?
I've also seen threads about enabling more LTE bands, has anyone done that on this phone? In particular is it possible to add support for B71 (600MHz), or is this radio hardware just too old to allow that?
Thanks much, I would really like to know whether I can use this phone or if I would need to find a different model.
https://swappa.com/blog/3g-network-shutdown/ Your phone is fine.
SM-N910T with 2ETI1 OTA modem update works fine. 4g/LTE Data, WiFi Calling works. Does not drop out of 4G/LTE for voice. SM-N910V w/ MODestROM v11 (6.01 TW-based N910VVRU2CQI2 ) w/ a vzw 2CTI baseband update, has working 4gLTE data, but no WiFi Calling, or VoLTE (falls back to 2g, but I still have 2g coverage here, so it's usable, if not optimum. Here's the thing: on the VZW phone, if I set the the salescode to TMB, suddenly VoLTE works, but the Setup pages/menus/statusbar are screwed up, so it's not really useable. Here's where it gets REAL interesteing. On a VZW phone w/ VZW 2CTI1 baseband, & VZW BL, flashed with a custom TMB ROM (trltetmo_N910TUVU2EQI2_Stock_Deodexed, debloated, but still TW), EVERYTHING works. But it's not stable, it periodically loses 4g/lte. What it tells me is that the VZW h/w is NOT THE PROBLEM. I've been at this all day, everyday since VZW turned off CDMA on 01/01/23 and killed my service here. Be warned: If you go down this path, you're gonna be mostly on your own. A LOT of dead links, 'retired' devs, etc. Everyone except you, me, and three other people here have long since moved on from this awesome phone. I'll help you if I can. I bought an SM-N910T , but the damn usb port is dead. Already changed the charging board, not the problem. It's the mobo. If I could identify the usb chip (if it's not the 805 itself, I'd change it. So I have a phone with no adb that I can't unlock/root. I'd much rather get my VZW phone fully working on TMB, since I'm heavily invested in the MODestROM. Haven't given up yet. But search my posts, you'll hear the deafening silence, lol.
Seeing this forum has so little activity, on 1/21 I ended up getting a used Moto E6 (XT-2005-3 is a tmobile aka carrier unlocked MetroPCS version). While overall this is not as nice a device and has fewer features than Note 4, it does cover what for me are the essentials - removable battery, SD card slot, support for 5.8GHz wifi. Best of all, it supports B71 which will be helpful for, well, making phone calls!
I still ponder someday getting one of these as a hobby device, but that would be second place to the E6 for use as a phone, and won't be for a couple more months yet (too many expensive household issues are taking their toll on my "toy" budget right now).
ForestCat said:
SM-N910T with 2ETI1 OTA modem update works fine. 4g/LTE Data, WiFi Calling works. Does not drop out of 4G/LTE for voice.
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Thank you, this was the part I needed to find out. With that in place, the only thing missing would be the B71 coverage but the E6 is already in place for that.
Re your Verizon adventures, I have no experience with any of that. What I read about T-Mobile dropping support for the verizon version in the last network update is all I know, and I don't have the skills to dispute what they say there. The best I could do is offer some links to threads on this forum but on double checking them it seems you've already been there and got no answers.
The only thing I see that might help you with that is if you could update just the t-mobile modem without disturbing the verizon bootloader. I see you tried that but it didn't stick when using Odin. I don't know if it would be any different using SmartSwitch that seemed to work for MarineWonder as he posted at https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...pgrade-on-jan-29th-2021.4224237/post-87464609 ?
Then again he may have been putting it on a t-mobile phone rather than mixing with the verizon bootloader so who knows?
My guess since it has been so problematic for you on the verizon phone is that you may need to only use a tmobile phone since that may be the only way to get the last t-mobile modem update. Bummer that the one you bought has a dead usb port. How are you charging it? Is there any chance you could return it to the seller since it came pre-broken? Then put the refund money toward another, hopefully working, tmobile phone? And would that MODestROM work on a non-verizon phone?
The only other thought I had is there are apps to connect to ADB over wifi. Sadly most of these need root. The ones that don't, seem to need at least once using a usb connection to do the "adb tcpip 5555" command to set it all up. . . . how annoying that it is all so circular!
There is also https://telnetd.en.aptoide.com/app?store_name=apps&app_id=59202144 , maybe a telnet connection could do the "adb tcpip 5555" command instead of using the USB connection? Sadly the documentation (at https://waxrain.com/docs/010.html ) appears to be written in Chinese, and I never had much luck with google translate.
The N910T still supports VoLte.. It is still compatible with cellular networks.