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Snapdragon 800 a bit long in the tooth by now.

I was quite surprised to learn that the Tab S series of tablets ships with the aging Snapdragon 800. I find it's a bit out of place on a tablet where all other specs are top notch. The reviews I read specifically say the tabet can be sluggish at times when more CPU power is required.
I guess I hold out on my upgrade a bit longer then...

rodrigorajao said:
I was quite surprised to learn that the Tab S series of tablets ships with the aging Snapdragon 800. I find it's a bit out of place on a tablet where all other specs are top notch. The reviews I read specifically say the tabet can be sluggish at times when more CPU power is required.
I guess I hold out on my upgrade a bit longer then...
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Only the LTE versions come with the Snapdragon 800. Wi-fi gets the Exynos 5420.

how is the 5420 ?
I'm kind of disappointed the UK versions have the 5420 - I find my Snapdragon 800 in my Note 3 phone super quick
is the 5420 just as snappy ? Looks such a good screen on the 8.4 and 10.5 Tab S

Buckster76 said:
how is the 5420 ?
I'm kind of disappointed the UK versions have the 5420 - I find my Snapdragon 800 in my Note 3 phone super quick
is the 5420 just as snappy ? Looks such a good screen on the 8.4 and 10.5 Tab S
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Reviewers are saying the 5420 wi-fi versions are noticeably faster than the 800 in the LTE. I believe benchmarks show the same.

The 5420 is amazing. Uses all 8 cores at the same time if needed now. They fixed the memory dump issue found in the previous iteration as well.
The only thing I'm bummed about, is the 5433 ( coming out soon)destroys Snapdragon's 805 SoC .... In benchmarks. I wish that processor was in the new Samsung flagship device. Ugh.

According to all the reviews I have read the opposite is true and they are recommending the processor in
the LTE version as the faster of the two.
I have to run to work but quick google search..Engadget ( which I hate) has this to say..
"If it's any consolation, the as-yet-unreleased LTE models are supposed to use a Snapdragon 800 chip instead of the Exynos 5, so maybe performance will be snappier there."

Snapdragon seems to get the most development too.
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harsaphes said:
According to all the reviews I have read the opposite is true and they are recommending the processor in
the LTE version as the faster of the two.
I have to run to work but quick google search..Engadget ( which I hate) has this to say..
"If it's any consolation, the as-yet-unreleased LTE models are supposed to use a Snapdragon 800 chip instead of the Exynos 5, so maybe performance will be snappier there."
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Anandtech clearly said Samsung made a poor choice with Exynos. They should have gone 801 or 805.

oh well - and 16gb too for UK version - grrrr
still prob going to get one though
maybe it will handle streaming video better than the Snapdragon (well the implementation of it on the Note 3) - after lots of updates, I still can't get smooth streamed video on my Note 3 - youtube, netflix, Sky, Iplayer etc - yet download to phone first (latter 2) - or play local content and smooth as silk

There probably won't be a 32gb version. Samsung said there'd be a 32gb 8.4 pro and there never was.

I can confirm there are LTE versions with Exynos processor, at least mine is so, bought in Spain (10.5"). I could change it for a snapdragon version though, but I'm not sure if it is worth it.

arbiskar said:
I can confirm there are LTE versions with Exynos processor, at least mine is so, bought in Spain (10.5"). I could change it for a snapdragon version though, but I'm not sure if it is worth it.
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Thanks for your confirmation arbiskar.
It was rumoured the Tab S would be 5420 for WiFi, and 5420 + Intel LTE Modem for LTE models, that seems to coincide with the reports such as yours, that the LTE models is Exynos based only.
I doubt that Snapdragon based LTE models of the Tab S exist, if the LTE model you purchased is 5420, I'm going to assume they all will be...
Model numbers other than the T700, T705, T800 and T805 would need to exist for Snapdragon variants, so I don't believe we will see Qualcomm chips in any of the Tab S models.
Thanks.

Hi,
I ordered a LTE Tab S, in germany it will release on friday the 11 July. Before I ordered I thought all versions will have the Exynos 5 Octa and perhaps an optional LTE Modem. After my order I saw that the LTE version will be a QSD 800
Now you say thete will be LTE and Octa. Is it real? Do you know what version Samsung will sell in germay? I think I have to wait a few weeks before I get my tab S because I bought it with a LTE Contract and the Provider cant give me an info when they get the hardware from Samsung.
Now I don`t know if I should cancel the order and buy me a wifi version because the octa is better or will the QSD 800 ok too?

Svendrae said:
Hi,
I ordered a LTE Tab S, in germany it will release on friday the 11 July. Before I ordered I thought all versions will have the Exynos 5 Octa and perhaps an optional LTE Modem. After my order I saw that the LTE version will be a QSD 800
Now you say thete will be LTE and Octa. Is it real? Do you know what version Samsung will sell in germay? I think I have to wait a few weeks before I get my tab S because I bought it with a LTE Contract and the Provider cant give me an info when they get the hardware from Samsung.
Now I don`t know if I should cancel the order and buy me a wifi version because the octa is better or will the QSD 800 ok too?
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The sd800 is slightly better than the octacore, so I wouldn't worry.
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is it confirmed the LTE version in US is also Exynos processor instead of snapdragon 800? Thanks

rankman2004 said:
is it confirmed the LTE version in US is also Exynos processor instead of snapdragon 800? Thanks
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No. Lte is Snapdragon only. Samsung only announced today a new exynos processor with Lte for future products.
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simacca said:
No. Lte is Snapdragon only. Samsung only announced today a new exynos processor with Lte for future products.
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Apparently, some people here have the LTE version with Exynos, so I'm not so sure.
They announced a new Exynos processor with LTE integrated for future products, but that doesn't mean there isn't a LTE chip in addition to the Exynos SOC in the Tab S LTE versions.
It would be nice if someone could confirm.
I'm also waiting to see if there will be a 32GB.. and which version to get

Mithrandir007 said:
Apparently, some people here have the LTE version with Exynos, so I'm not so sure.
They announced a new Exynos processor with LTE integrated for future products, but that doesn't mean there isn't a LTE chip in addition to the Exynos SOC in the Tab S LTE versions.
It would be nice if someone could confirm.
I'm also waiting to see if there will be a 32GB.. and which version to get
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Would like to see some proof of that. Check out link below.
http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_modap_is_first_samsung_chipset_with_integrated_lte-news-9006.php
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Apparently, some people here have the LTE version with Exynos, so I'm not so sure.
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Someone from Spain said s/he has an Exynos/LTE device. The Spain Samsung site also has the LTE version listed as Exynos.
The announcement yesterday was for a quad-core chip with integrated LTE, not the 5433 next-gen big.LITTLE chip everyone was expecting. Without knowing the GPU of the chip announced yesterday it's hard to say where in the fold it fits (high-end, low-end). There's nothing that's ever prevented Samsung from using Exynos with a stand-alone modem it's just that S-800 with its integrated modem is cheaper. Maybe that's what they're doing in Spain. That or it's a typo and the aforementioned owner "thinks" s/he has Exynos LTE. Everything I've read indicates the S' are using the same S-800/5420 architecture of all Samsung's previously released high-end tablets. So I'm going with typo until someone posts a CPU-Z (available in Play) read out which will say specifically what chip a device is using.
We know there are S-800 SM-T805's because reviewers have tested them. It would be extremely odd that Samsung would give the same model number (Spain's SM-T805 also) to two devices with totally different architectures. They never have before. At a minimum they'd append a letter to it (EG: the N10.1-14 LTE with 700MHz bands sold in Latin America is the "P-SM605M."
As for S-800 being long in tooth, it's not really. The CPU is more than adequate for the workload. Here's a slide from Qualcomm saying 85% of apps don't use two cores better yet four. And the majority of apps never leave the A7 core on 5420.
The challenge is the enormous amount of pixels being pushed on large QHD tablet displays. S-801 uses Adreno 330 just like S-800 so until some SoC with a more powerful GPU is released (released = shipped in a production product) Adreno/Mali is the best we've got and the differences between them performance wise aren't that significant (Mali's about 10% weaker than Adreno when maxed out).

New member here.
Received today my Tab S 8.4 LTE (SM-T705) sold here in Finland. And it is indeed an Exynos 5420.
I don't have a Micro-SIM card for it yet, but it certainly is the LTE version. Does someone know how to check the LTE chip version?
Took captures with CPU Z, but I can't apparently post outside links yet. See them here: pentsin.portaali.org/samsung/ along a photo of the box also claiming 1.9GHz Quad-Core + 1.3GHz Quad-Core.
BarryH_GEG said:
Someone from Spain said s/he has an Exynos/LTE device. The Spain Samsung site also has the LTE version listed as Exynos.
The announcement yesterday was for a quad-core chip with integrated LTE, not the 5433 next-gen big.LITTLE chip everyone was expecting. Without knowing the GPU of the chip announced yesterday it's hard to say where in the fold it fits (high-end, low-end). There's nothing that's ever prevented Samsung from using Exynos with a stand-alone modem it's just that S-800 with its integrated modem is cheaper. Maybe that's what they're doing in Spain. That or it's a typo and the aforementioned owner "thinks" s/he has Exynos LTE. Everything I've read indicates the S' are using the same S-800/5420 architecture of all Samsung's previously released high-end tablets. So I'm going with typo until someone posts a CPU-Z (available in Play) read out which will say specifically what chip a device is using.
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Note 4 versions build quality

I want to buy a Note 4, but I am unsure which chipset I should go for. I want the exynos chipset, but I am very doubtful about it. My only question is: Why does samsung ship exynos equipped Note 4 to poor countries and the snapdragon version to richer countries? I doubt that the snapdragon equipped Note 4 may be better built, more reliable and more stable than the exynos one, but I am not sure about this. Some people complain about different issues, like screen tint, glass edge gap, etc. What do you guys think of this? Can you share your experiences and thoughts?

All the answers you seek are in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-snapdragon-805-to-exynos-5433-t2868247
Quality between the two are pretty much the same, just different chips.
Exynos is also shipped to the middle east countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, I dunno if you can call them poor countries lol.

They only shipped exynos versions to poor countries? Lol thats the funniest statement i read so far
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Can OP give a link to where he/she got the statement saying exynos only ship to poor country??
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Exynos is much better for me, it depends on the user.. Lol.. I merely drop on the floor laughing for the poor country line.. Hahaha..

He is right UK, Germany , Italy, France, Spain and US all have snapdragon equipped Note 4
so maybe he have something in his statement

The nordics also get snapdragon so it does seem Samsung is shipping the exynos to third world countries and not risking it in developed countries.

Western and indrustrialised countries get the snapdragon, third world ones get the exynos, with very few exceptions. I myself want an exynos, but I know that in general the same product's quality (like the same car or the same clothes) differs depending on the country it is going to be shipped to. A friend of mine who works in an electronic service, repairing different electronic products also told me this from his long experience in that field. It's a fact, but I'm not sure if this is the case here.

exclass said:
I want to buy a Note 4, but I am unsure which chipset I should go for. I want the exynos chipset, but I am very doubtful about it. My only question is: Why does samsung ship exynos equipped Note 4 to poor countries and the snapdragon version to richer countries? I doubt that the snapdragon equipped Note 4 may be better built, more reliable and more stable than the exynos one, but I am not sure about this. Some people complain about different issues, like screen tint, glass edge gap, etc. What do you guys think of this? Can you share your experiences and thoughts?
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Errm, the UAE and New Zealand are certainly not 'poor countries' and as I understand the former got N910C and latter N910U, both Exynos.
Here in South Africa we got the Euro N910F Snapdragon, the Exynos N910C and the 3G only N910H, so what does that make us?

POLO_i780 said:
Errm, the UAE and New Zealand are certainly not 'poor countries' and as I understand the former got N910C and latter N910U, both Exynos.
Here in South Africa we got the Euro N910F Snapdragon, the Exynos N910C and the 3G only N910H, so what does that make us?
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How much do these variants cost?

pedodroid said:
How much do these variants cost?
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Here in SA? Between $910-$1045, the N910F being the most expensive and N910H being the least expensive of the 3.

That's BS. Am in Germany and I got the Exynos N910C. Unless Germany belongs to the poor countries[emoji85]
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Exynos is better SOC and period. I have no lag using TW, snapdragon version does....
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silicij said:
Exynos is better SOC and period. I have no lag using TW, snapdragon version does....
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My friend has galaxy S5 G900F for Europe (first world), with snapdragon 801 which was 50 euros more expensive than the one with exynos G900H (Galaxy S5 also has 2 chipsets, just like Note 4), not even the smallest lag. Yesterday he installed the official android 5.0 and it was so smooth and responsive. So I don't think that lag in Note 4 exists, maybe I'm wrong.

I bought in Slovenia version N910F, was using it for 7 days but I was really dissapointed with battery life of Snapdragon model, so I returned it and changed for N910C Exynos model.
I do it purposely because of two reasons:
Battery life and Exynos is 64bit SoC, thus it is not enabled yet, probably will be enabled in near future.

exclass said:
My friend has galaxy S5 G900F for Europe (first world), with snapdragon 801 which was 50 euros more expensive than the one with exynos G900H (Galaxy S5 also has 2 chipsets, just like Note 4), not even the smallest lag. Yesterday he installed the official android 5.0 and it was so smooth and responsive. So I don't think that lag in Note 4 exists, maybe I'm wrong.
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Don't even bother with this argument, there are people who believe the Snapdragon lags, leave them, not all of us have the same experience, its a pointless argument.

My goodness. The only real difference is baseband... If using Qualcomm baseband, there is financial incentive to purchase the whole SOC.
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I don't know why the OP thinks Samsung would vary the build quality by SoC, its all down to what country and networks they are shipping to, the setup the networks have, frequencies available in that country etc etc....
Some countries get both Snapdragon and Exynos, like here in SA, we got both variants from the GS4, Note 3, GS5 and now Note 4. I had a Exynos S4 and a mate had a Snapdragon S4, I couldn't even tell the difference until I went to About Device and saw that he had a I9505, build quality, UI speed, Display etc...Felt no different to my Exynos S4, same with Note 3, played with an Exynos in-store then a mate got the Snapdragon from our network, again I felt no difference, its the very reason why I stopped being fussy about what SoC variant I get.
So OP, if you want Exynos then get it, its build quality is the same as the Snapdragon, unless you are unlucky and get one from a bad batch.

POLO_i780 said:
I don't know why the OP thinks Samsung would vary the build quality by SoC, its all down to what country and networks they are shipping to, the setup the networks have, frequencies available in that country etc etc....
Some countries get both Snapdragon and Exynos, like here in SA, we got both variants from the GS4, Note 3, GS5 and now Note 4. I had a Exynos S4 and a mate had a Snapdragon S4, I couldn't even tell the difference until I went to About Device and saw that he had a I9505, build quality, UI speed, Display etc...Felt no different to my Exynos S4, same with Note 3, played with an Exynos in-store then a mate got the Snapdragon from our network, again I felt no difference, its the very reason why I stopped being fussy about what SoC variant I get.
So OP, if you want Exynos then get it, its build quality is the same as the Snapdragon, unless you are unlucky and get one from a bad batch.
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I don't know man. I opened this thread for opinions. I am also not talking about huge differences in quality, but today I went to a shop and took a look at a Note 4 N910H (Asia Pacific) and I wasn't very happy about the screen. Its white turned cyan with very small rotations of the phone. Its glass was also a bit edgy at one corner (very little though, not visible if you don't check for it). I can only compare it to my friend's S5 G900F (Europe), which's display doesn't have the color issue. I also know that not every Note 4 has these ''problems''. It may just be just a coincidence though.

It is more about gsm. Specifically the available bands in your country. Thus why some countries get more than one variant.
As far as build quality, I would say the Korean ones are probably better binned overall, but not necessarily true. You would probably get a better screen if made in Korea. Other variables are involved. Seems the note4 snapdragon soc is shipping with mostly higher binned SOC's compared to previous phones with older snapdragons. I am not sure how well the exynos is binned as far as soc. Not many people updated their bin #'s in that thread.

International vs T-Mobile

I am looking to buy another Note 4 and was wondering what the pros and cons of each where. Also will the international work on T-mobile without issue? I tried searching for the answers before I made this post (I may just do a poor job searching) and only found speculation post before the phones were released. I know with my T-Mobile Note 4 it seems it overheats from time to time if I am downloading a torrent and I found an article about Samsung dropping the 810 because of "overheating fears".
Thanks for any advice or information in advance.

910U taiwan is awesome. no issues.

Im on the tmober and am actually overclocked to the max.. zero problems...

Using n910c on tmobile works fine had n910p on sprint that model had overheating problems
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Buy the T-Mobile variant if you live in the states and use T-Mobile or any of its affiliate MNVO's.
Buy the T-Mobile variant if you live in the states and want the warranty via T-Mobile / Samsung.
Buy the T-Mobile variant if you live in the states or live abroad and want true GSM bands and or want to root.
Don't Buy the T-Mobile variant if you're concerned with overheating (Common byproduct of Snapdragon SoC's)
Buy the SM-910C instead, and be aware, of its CAT4 LTE Modem, Lack of Warranty (if buying and living in the States), and Exynos Chipset (Some say performs a tad bit better), but lesser ROM Development; still caries most of the bands the T-Mobile Snapdragon variant and is GSM-ready.

Get Tmo, it has an insane amount of dev going on for it.

Excatly! :good:
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Get Tmo, it has an insane amount of dev going on for it.
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Thank you all so much, I got another T-Mobile one.

Tab S 8.4 sm-t705M in the US

So after months of trying I was finally able to buy and import in the mythical sm-t705m into America. I contacted a few people and when I was telling a colleague he told me we had a coworker who had family in Brazil. And about 6 weeks later I am typing to you from my Tab S.
This is the South American version of the Tab S 8.4 that has the phone built in AND has compatible North American LTE bands. I can verify that LTE bands are working fine. I am on T-Mobile and all I did was take out my old Sim card and popped it into my tab s and it picked them up right away. Speeds are the same as they were on my old Galaxy Mega 6.3, just on a bigger device. Checked the network status and it said I was on band 4.
Tab s itself was about $450 but then cost of shipping and PayPal fee charge and a little something for my coworkers brother, it came to about $600. If I can get $200 for my old phone then I will be very happy with the final cost.
Those that want this device find someone that can help you out. Definitely worth it.

kwed73 said:
So after months of trying I was finally able to buy and import in the mythical sm-t705m into America. I contacted a few people and when I was telling a colleague he told me we had a coworker who had family in Brazil. And about 6 weeks later I am typing to you from my Tab S.
This is the South American version of the Tab S 8.4 that has the phone built in AND has compatible North American LTE bands. I can verify that LTE bands are working fine. I am on T-Mobile and all I did was take out my old Sim card and popped it into my tab s and it picked them up right away. Speeds are the same as they were on my old Galaxy Mega 6.3, just on a bigger device. Checked the network status and it said I was on band 4.
Tab s itself was about $450 but then cost of shipping and PayPal fee charge and a little something for my coworkers brother, it came to about $600. If I can get $200 for my old phone then I will be very happy with the final cost.
Those that want this device find someone that can help you out. Definitely worth it.
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This is pretty interesting. I got my Tab S 8.4 from overseas (As I wanted phone capability) But I am only able to use HSPA+ on AT&T in the US. I didn't realize that there was a version with both US based LTE and Phone.
Any idea what model number it is? Is it Exynos or Snapdragon?

omniphil said:
This is pretty interesting. I got my Tab S 8.4 from overseas (As I wanted phone capability) But I am only able to use HSPA+ on AT&T in the US. I didn't realize that there was a version with both US based LTE and Phone.
Any idea what model number it is? Is it Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Its an exynos processor. Just ran CPU Z.
I was going to buy the European model as well, but I read a thread here about there being a South American version that had the compatible LTE bands and it does. I am on T-Mobile and it connects to band 4 all the time. I have ran multiple speed tests and I get usually mid 20s, although I did hit 51 Mbps down one time and 40s a handful of times as well. Depends on where I'm at.
I was worried about future proofing a bit because I read T-Mobile wasnt going to try to increase hspa+ and I was worried eventually they would dump it all together for LTE. This way I am good to go because it also has band 2 something they are working to increase as well this year.

kwed73 said:
Its an exynos processor. Just ran CPU Z.
I was going to buy the European model as well, but I read a thread here about there being a South American version that had the compatible LTE bands and it does. I am on T-Mobile and it connects to band 4 all the time. I have ran multiple speed tests and I get usually mid 20s, although I did hit 51 Mbps down one time and 40s a handful of times as well. Depends on where I'm at.
I was worried about future proofing a bit because I read T-Mobile wasnt going to try to increase hspa+ and I was worried eventually they would dump it all together for LTE. This way I am good to go because it also has band 2 something they are working to increase as well this year.
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Yeah, HSPA+ will be going away, but i'm sure i'll have a new by then anyways. Plus so many people are on LTE now that the HSPA+ speeds have been much better than they used to be...
AT&T does use Band 4 from what I can tell as well. I'll have to keep this in mind when buying a phone in the future.
Thanks!

omniphil said:
Yeah, HSPA+ will be going away, but i'm sure i'll have a new by then anyways. Plus so many people are on LTE now that the HSPA+ speeds have been much better than they used to be...
AT&T does use Band 4 from what I can tell as well. I'll have to keep this in mind when buying a phone in the future.
Thanks!
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No problem. Nice thing about the Tab S is that the specs are so good it should last for more than a typical phone.

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No problem. Nice thing about the Tab S is that the specs are so good it should last for more than a typical phone.
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Yes, that is very true. It preforms pretty good, but when the Tab S2 8.0 comes out I may just upgrade to that.
For me the crazy high resolution of the Tab S 8.4 is a little to high for an 8.4 inch device. The video has some lag from all the pixels. I think a lower resolution would be plenty fine and would help performance.
All the manufactures are having pixel density wars, I think they are getting out of hand.

omniphil said:
Yes, that is very true. It preforms pretty good, but when the Tab S2 8.0 comes out I may just upgrade to that.
For me the crazy high resolution of the Tab S 8.4 is a little to high for an 8.4 inch device. The video has some lag from all the pixels. I think a lower resolution would be plenty fine and would help performance.
All the manufactures are having pixel density wars, I think they are getting out of hand.
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I read that the S2 will have a 4:3 ratio and I think that might make it hard for calls and carrying, being wider. I'm happy with the form factor now. I always said a 7 inch would be perfect, but I am enjoying the 8.4 because of small bezels

kwed73 said:
I read that the S2 will have a 4:3 ratio and I think that might make it hard for calls and carrying, being wider. I'm happy with the form factor now. I always said a 7 inch would be perfect, but I am enjoying the 8.4 because of small bezels
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Yeah 4:3 might be strange. But looking at the specs We're only talking about 1/2 inch wider. That might be ok for holding. We'll have to see when it comes out...

Help! Exynos vs Snapdragon?

Hey all. I am currently using a Galaxy S4 in the US and want to upgrade to the S10+ base storage and RAM. I will soon be going off to college so I plan to keep this phone for at least 4-5 years so I don't spend too much on a new one. I am torn between 3 different models, the Snapdragon, the Exynos Dual-Sim that will be available on Amazon, and the regular Exynos that I can get shipped from my relatives in India. I have a few questions though:
1. If I buy the Exynos models, will I still be able to get One UI 2.0 beta in the US? Since India always gets the beta, will I get it at the same time India does, or do I have to wait till the US beta opens? Will any other US features (except VoLTE and Wifi-Calling) be impacted?
2. I use T-Mobile. I read somewhere that the Exynos 9810 does not support the new 600mhz band for T-Mobile, so will the new one have support or no? This one really isn't that big of a deal just so long as I get LTE.
3. If I buy it from India, will my relatives have to put their SIM in it to activate it (does it have a regional lock)? If so, when I factory reset it, will it revert back to the regional locked state?
4. When will I get software updates? When the rest of the Exynos models get them?
5. What are the advantages and disadvantages of Exynos over Snapdragon besides OEM Unlock?
6. If I buy the Dual Sim model, is there good ROM support for it or only for the Single SIM Exynos?
For me OEM Unlock is a major option because of how long I will keep the phone. Thank you so much for your thoughts!

tneot01 said:
Hey all. I am currently using a Galaxy S4 in the US and want to upgrade to the S10+ base storage and RAM. I will soon be going off to college so I plan to keep this phone for at least 4-5 years so I don't spend too much on a new one. I am torn between 3 different models, the Snapdragon, the Exynos Dual-Sim that will be available on Amazon, and the regular Exynos that I can get shipped from my relatives in India. I have a few questions though:
1. If I buy the Exynos models, will I still be able to get One UI 2.0 beta in the US? Since India always gets the beta, will I get it at the same time India does, or do I have to wait till the US beta opens? Will any other US features (except VoLTE and Wifi-Calling) be impacted?
2. I use T-Mobile. I read somewhere that the Exynos 9810 does not support the new 600mhz band for T-Mobile, so will the new one have support or no? This one really isn't that big of a deal just so long as I get LTE.
3. If I buy it from India, will my relatives have to put their SIM in it to activate it (does it have a regional lock)? If so, when I factory reset it, will it revert back to the regional locked state?
4. When will I get software updates? When the rest of the Exynos models get them?
5. What are the advantages and disadvantages of Exynos over Snapdragon besides OEM Unlock?
6. If I buy the Dual Sim model, is there good ROM support for it or only for the Single SIM Exynos?
For me OEM Unlock is a major option because of how long I will keep the phone. Thank you so much for your thoughts!
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To the best of my knowledge:
1. Yes. As for US features that depends on whether your carrier supports them on the international model.
2. You need to confirm with T-Mobile. The international model may not support all bands in the US, and vice versa
3. Nope, that shouldn't be a problem.
4. Software updates in the US are pushed through the carrier, whereas international models get them direct from Samsung. So the timeline for both may not be the same
5. Lot more development on XDA for the Exynos models, simply because they have an unlocked bootloader
6. They are basically the same with the exception of the second SIM slot. Almost all ROMs for the single sim variant should work for the dual-sim version too.

I have the EXynos Note 9 on T-Mobile usa and very happy with development, network, etc...

galaxys said:
I have the EXynos Note 9 on T-Mobile usa and very happy with development, network, etc...
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Did you get one ui since it is already available for exynos models?

mrao said:
To the best of my knowledge:
1. Yes. As for US features that depends on whether your carrier supports them on the international model.
2. You need to confirm with T-Mobile. The international model may not support all bands in the US, and vice versa
3. Nope, that shouldn't be a problem.
4. Software updates in the US are pushed through the carrier, whereas international models get them direct from Samsung. So the timeline for both may not be the same
5. Lot more development on XDA for the Exynos models, simply because they have an unlocked bootloader
6. They are basically the same with the exception of the second SIM slot. Almost all ROMs for the single sim variant should work for the dual-sim version too.
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Awesome thank you! I guess ill go for the dual sim on amazon just in case the indian one is regional locked.

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Did you get one ui since it is already available for exynos models?
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Yes, I'm running one ui with Pie which made my Note 9 even better!

Still remember when my Galaxy S9 was preordered to later realise that the exynos variant suffered from severe battery loss due to soc design architecture.
Returned it within the 30 day window
S9 flopped
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Finally got Android P installed and the first thing I did was a erase cache within recovery mode.
Running super fast

Exynos will probably get root and unlocked bootloader. The Snapdragon will be locked down like a puppy. So if you care about root, or development, get the Exynos. If you don't, then the Snapdragon will do.
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Exynos will probably get root and unlocked bootloader. The Snapdragon will be locked down like a puppy. So if you care about root, or development, get the Exynos. If you don't, then the Snapdragon will do.
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Based on previous releases you should be able to get an unlocked bootloader on the Snapdragon variant from Hong Kong. Likely less custom ROM's but no issues with battery drain or overheating, plus early benchmarks reflect the Snapdragon out performing the Exynos Chipset.

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plus early benchmarks reflect the Snapdragon out performing the Exynos Chipset.
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Where that at? All the ones I have seen show the opposite.
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Where that at? All the ones I have seen show the opposite.
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A number of websites are reporting this, including Android Authority.
https://www-androidauthority-com.cd...apdragon-855-performance-benchmarking-942690/

varcor said:
A number of websites are reporting this, including Android Authority.
https://www-androidauthority-com.cd...apdragon-855-performance-benchmarking-942690/
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I didn't see any part of that post that dealt with Exynos 9820 that is in the S10.
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Where that at? All the ones I have seen show the opposite.
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The Snapdragon 855 is also outperforming the newest Exynos 9820 in benchmark testing, including the CPU's. Likely most users won't be able to notice a difference with the exception of gaming. The Snapdragon looks to be vastly better optimized in this regard. Also, we'll have a better understanding for performance metrics once the chipsets are tweaked for final release.
https://wccftech-com.cdn.ampproject...w.google.com%26amp_tf%3DFrom%2520%25251%2524s

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The Snapdragon 855 is also outperforming the newest Exynos 9820 in benchmark testing, including the CPU's. Likely most users won't be able to notice a difference with the exception of gaming. The Snapdragon looks to be vastly better optimized in this regard. Also, we'll have a better understanding for performance metrics once the chipsets are tweaked for final release.
https://wccftech-com.cdn.ampproject...w.google.com%26amp_tf%3DFrom%2520%25251%2524s
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Except there are many sites getting the opposite results.
https://************/exynos-9820-be...ench-scores-almost-matches-apples-a12-bionic/
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Except there are many sites getting the opposite results.
https://************/exynos-9820-be...ench-scores-almost-matches-apples-a12-bionic/
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For myself, unless S10/S10+ prices come in much lower than rumors suggest, these chipset comparisons won't mean much. Rumors suggest the S10+ with 512gb memory and 8gb RAM exceeds $1,400.00 USD. Not a player at that price but if I was, even if the Snapdragon 855 is anywhere close to the Exynos 9820, it would be my choice, particularly after seeing the battery drain and overheating issues associated with the Exynos devices. Sure, they'll always be the Exynos users stating they never experienced any problems however many users are/were affected as noted from postings here on XDA and elsewhere.

varcor said:
For myself, unless S10/S10+ prices come in much lower than rumors suggest, these chipset comparisons won't mean much. Rumors suggest the S10+ with 512gb memory and 8gb RAM exceeds $1,400.00 USD. Not a player at that price but if I was, even if the Snapdragon 855 is anywhere close to the Exynos 9820, it would be my choice, particularly after seeing the battery drain and overheating issues associated with the Exynos devices. Sure, they'll always be the Exynos users stating they never experienced any problems however many users are/were affected as noted from postings here on XDA and elsewhere.
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All of the claims of $1300+ prices are based off of exchange rates for pounds not off of actual US prices. It will be under $1000.
Also, the UK has a 20% VAT which is built into their prices.
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All of the claims of $1300+ prices are based off of exchange rates for pounds not off of actual US prices. It will be under $1000.
Also, the UK has a 20% VAT which is built into their prices.
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Not according to sources from Techradar and Forbes, $1,340.00 and $1,390.00 USD respectively. It looks as though Samsung is going to reap additional profits via memory upgrades. A difference in price close to $300.00 USD between 128Gb and 512Gb. Surely a big markup considering Samsung is the largest producer of memory chips. Guessing their actual cost difference between the two is less than $50.00. And these prices are for the 4G device. Projected increase for the 5G devices is around $200.00. We'll know for certain in a couple of weeks.

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Not according to sources from Techradar and Forbes, $1,340.00 and $1,390.00 USD respectively. It looks as though Samsung is going to reap additional profits via memory upgrades. A difference in price close to $300.00 USD between 128Gb and 512Gb. Surely a big markup considering Samsung is the largest producer of memory chips. Guessing their actual cost difference between the two is less than $50.00. And these prices are for the 4G device. Projected increase for the 5G devices is around $200.00. We'll know for certain in a couple of weeks.
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The sources for both of those articles are the UK prices I previously mentioned. And again the VAT was not removed. If there is any version of the S10 which will start above $1,000 it will be the Special Edition version as that will be the only one which comes with 5G in addition to it being larger in all areas (6.7 inches, 1TB storage, and 10-12GB of RAM).
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The sources for both of those articles are the UK prices I previously mentioned. And again the VAT was not removed. If there is any version of the S10 which will start above $1,000 it will be the Special Edition version as that will be the only one which comes with 5G in addition to it being larger in all areas (6.7 inches, 1TB storage, and 10-12GB of RAM).
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I wish you're right but not a chance!

Don’t get the exynos variant if you want a samsung flagship phone. Never.
In my opinion, flagship phones deserve a flagship soc, and that is not exynos.
Search google for:
Samsung Galaxy Note9 Performance & Battery Showdown: Snapdragon vs Exynos
And read through the AnandTech review.