As I'm home tinkering away with the Vivid source code (Which is available on HTCdev.com) I want to share a few suggested accessories that should be mandatory to prepare you for an upcoming bootloader unlock and permanent root.
You will need a 1800mah or better aftermarket battery for the vivid ( there's a good one on Amazon I picked up that comes with two batteries for $25)
The stock 1620mah battery might not be sufficient for those that wish to overclock their own devices.
Invest in a decent size micro sd card, as roms will increase in size this will be a reliable method to flash the device. 2gb or better should be sufficient, 8gb recommended if you plan on doing any backups on titanium backup.
We are nearing the end of the wait and I as well as many of us who kept our vivids should be in for a treat very soon
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Is the aftermerket battery physically larger? If not, I'd be highly suspect of its actual performance. Most, if not all, aftermarket batteries are bogus. I'm getting pretty awesome battery life on my vivid; moderate use lasts over 2 days, almost twice what my Inspire got. At any rate, its by no means necessary to upgrade batteries for root/boot loader.
And for SD cards, be sure to get a higher class (8 or 10) for performance.
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kxhawkins said:
Is the aftermerket battery physically larger? If not, I'd be highly suspect of its actual performance. Most, if not all, aftermarket batteries are bogus. I'm getting pretty awesome battery life on my vivid; moderate use lasts over 2 days, almost twice what my Inspire got. At any rate, its by no means necessary to upgrade batteries for root/boot loader.
And for SD cards, be sure to get a higher class (8 or 10) for performance.
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I got the same battery/charge set from Amazon. The batteries are the same size as the original battery. In four full charge/discharge cycles, I got 20-40 hours from one of the 1800 mAh batteries, depending on the usage. I am currently running times on the 1650 mAh battery that came with the Vivid. My usage is probably less than most folks, but it should be about the same over time for me. I will report back in a few days.
kxhawkins said:
Is the aftermerket battery physically larger? If not, I'd be highly suspect of its actual performance. Most, if not all, aftermarket batteries are bogus. I'm getting pretty awesome battery life on my vivid; moderate use lasts over 2 days, almost twice what my Inspire got. At any rate, its by no means necessary to upgrade batteries for root/boot loader.
And for SD cards, be sure to get a higher class (8 or 10) for performance.
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Not for root only, overlooking enthusiasts, please read again.
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its by no means necessary to upgrade batteries for root/boot loader.
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Amen!
In fact I will only be looking at loading ROMs that increase battery life.
Have you found a way to unlock the bootloader and get true root?
Root by Christmas would be awesome
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I got the same battery/charge set from Amazon. The batteries are the same size as the original battery. In four full charge/discharge cycles, I got 20-40 hours from one of the 1800 mAh batteries, depending on the usage. I am currently running times on the 1650 mAh battery that came with the Vivid. My usage is probably less than most folks, but it should be about the same over time for me. I will report back in a few days.
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See my testing results at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390941
Others may get different results, but I found the stock 1650 mAh battery that came with the phone to have a longer cycle time than the 1800 mAh batteries. However, I do have spare batteries, at a good price I believe, for use in an emergency, so I'm not complaining.
Have any of you looked at the extended batteries online for the vivid? I've had no experience with them.
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I'm sorry if there's a topic about it. I browsed for it, but the XDA app crashes whenever I try to search.
I'm considering ordering this battery. Had anyone had any good or bad experiences with it? I'm finding that the stock battery just isn't quite enough. Do you get the expected extra ~30% run time based on the capacity difference? Does it run too hot or anything? Thanks in advance for any input.
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You can go on ebay and buy 2 or 3 1800 mah batteries for the same price as one 1750 seido... I know there is a chance the batteries will be **** but ive never had bad luck with them.
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I'm sorry if there's a topic about it. I browsed for it, but the XDA app crashes whenever I try to search.
I'm considering ordering this battery. Had anyone had any good or bad experiences with it? I'm finding that the stock battery just isn't quite enough. Do you get the expected extra ~30% run time based on the capacity difference? Does it run too hot or anything? Thanks in advance for any input.
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I love and swear by my 1750. You will get a lot of people in here saying it is crap, but I assure you it is not. If you want a battery to last the full day and not increase the size of your phone the 1750 is for you. I have had no issues with it getting to hot. Just a word for the wise....
When you get it follow the instructions. Let it charge for several hours after full charge. Im talking twelve hours or so if you can spare. You wont regret it.
I have the 1750 and it works great, does as advertised. Gets me through a day at 1.152 GHz of mid-heavy use, I'm not complaining
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I love and swear by my 1750. You will get a lot of people in here saying it is crap, but I assure you it is not. If you want a battery to last the full day and not increase the size of your phone the 1750 is for you. I have had no issues with it getting to hot. Just a word for the wise....
When you get it follow the instructions. Let it charge for several hours after full charge. Im talking twelve hours or so if you can spare. You wont regret it.
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Thanks for the input. What do people say about it? Just that it's not worth the "premium" price a la the first post here?
EDIT: Also, I'd consider the larger extended batteries, but I use my phone as a GPS frequently and thus can't deal with an extended back.
It's nice to have but I've become so used to plugging up that I have a way/somewhere to charge almost everywhere I go anymore. It does allow me the luxury of being able to not plug up for longer.
I've started swapping out my 1750 for my stocker and letting them charge on my docking stations for a day or so...seems to help a little.
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Thanks for the input. What do people say about it? Just that it's not worth the "premium" price a la the first post here?
EDIT: Also, I'd consider the larger extended batteries, but I use my phone as a GPS frequently and thus can't deal with an extended back.
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When I was looking for a replacement battery and searching the forums many different people claimed it didn't work as advertised. That it did not last any longer than the stock battery. In my experience this is not the case at all. Also the price is a little heavy but worth it to me at the time. I would check ebay for it now though.
1750 is an over priced, under performing piece of ****. Go on ebay and for $8.90 you can get a original HTC 1500.
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shoman24v said:
1750 is an over priced, under performing piece of ****. Go on ebay and for $8.90 you can get a original HTC 1500.
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Why would you say that? I've had the 1750 since a week after I got my DInc and it always over performs. I've had days where my phone was on for 26 hours with 20% left. The Sedio batteries are wwaaayy better than the crap HTC Taiwanese ones. Sedio is a Japanese cell. You pay for quality.
EDIT: STOP ADVERTISING YOUR BATTERIES TOO
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Smokeey said:
Why would you say that? I've had the 1750 since a week after I got my DInc and it always over performs. I've had days where my phone was on for 26 hours with 20% left. The Sedio batteries are wwaaayy better than the crap HTC Taiwanese ones. Sedio is a Japanese cell. You pay for quality.
EDIT: STOP ADVERTISING YOUR BATTERIES TOO
Sent from God, who uses CM7.
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Advertising what? A good deal? I wasted my money on the 1750 so I would know. Why pay $40 for it when the HTC 1500 performs the same.
There's some spec sheets floating around that shows HTC batteries perform at their rated mah while seidios 1750 and 3500 fall short.
And here's that sheet:
http://batteryboss.org/
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I bought a 1750 for my Eris and use it with my Dinc without any problems.
I have one, and use it regularly. Its capacity is not staggering, but noticable over stock.
I have one and would recommend it. I compared it to my stock battery a while back, and found that it charges at about the same rate (in percentage, so it charges faster technically), gives 1 extra hour under full load, and 2-3 extra hours under mixed load.
See. I told you hater trolls would show up.
Still Skeptical ...... hhhmmmmmm
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I have one and would recommend it. I compared it to my stock battery a while back, and found that it charges at about the same rate (in percentage, so it charges faster technically), gives 1 extra hour under full load, and 2-3 extra hours under mixed load.
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About what I get with my 1500 HTC
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1750 is an over priced, under performing piece of ****. Go on ebay and for $8.90 you can get a original HTC 1500.
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This ^^^^^
Bought both the 1750mah and the eBay OEM 1500mah from bidallies and love it. 15$ and lasts twice as long as that sedieo crap. Sold that thing after two months of use. Have since bought an extra 1500 as spare and bought several more for friends and family with the Inc.
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Ive noticed mine lasts maybe an hour or 2 longer then the stock battery, not worth the price tag in my opinion.
rubbish, its good for the first month. after that it dies faster than the stock. get a hero battery and call it a day
I purchased an 1800mah battery from htcexpressdotcom for $20 and it works great. Same size as the stock 1300 too.
Well guys, this would be a first:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Htc-HD-2-batter...311?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb4d8f5af
But hold on though. It almost looks like a plain old re wrapped Li-Ion battery. The guys feedback makes me skeptical, too. Looks like he's new to Ebay.
Thoughts?
I believe its the same old crap. They say its 1600mA. But in reality even worse than standard 1200 mA. Price talks for itself.
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I believe its the same old crap. They say its 1600mA. But in reality even worse than standard 1200 mA. Price talks for itself.
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You know I see alot of talk about these 1600mah batteries from Japan and alot of speculation, but I have never seen anyone do any real world testing. I was planning on buying one of the 1600mah batteries and doing a setcpu stress test on it as well as the stock battery and record the results of how long it took each to fully discharge.
FireDemonSiC said:
You know I see alot of talk about these 1600mah batteries from Japan and alot of speculation, but I have never seen anyone do any real world testing. I was planning on buying one of the 1600mah batteries and doing a setcpu stress test on it as well as the stock battery and record the results of how long it took each to fully discharge.
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Do it! If you become the guinea pig and the battery is indeed better, then you would be a hero in these parts lol.
The last battery I bought was a 'genuine' htc 1200mah from an amazon seller, turned out to be a fake that was obviously not htc.
Be careful with testing unknown batteries from unreliable sources, the fake one I had got very hot and was a poor fit into the phone. These phones are very temperature sensative and you would not want a lithium fire inside your HD2!
So is anyone willing to do some battery tests? I would be so happy if I could use a 1600 mAh battery and not need one of those huge, bulky battery covers.
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You should be very careful if you try a battery from an unknown or not certificated source. I read about many cases, where people bought some cheap batteries which turned into a little bomb, because of some reason. and i don't know if i want to end up in a roll chair for my whole life just because of a 20€ cheaper battery. A battery can damage your phone not only by heat. Such batteries have also some extra hard- AND software for controlling purposes integrated and if there's a problem, it could cause other problems in your phone.
The normal 1230mAh battery is not very bad, one day for such a huge display and some other features is enough. and if i have to go to the jungle and can't charge my phone i will buy the bigger battery and won't mind about the thickness of my phone ^^
Just my thinkings
Silberpfeil3110 said:
The normal 1230mAh battery is not very bad, one day for such a huge display and some other features is enough. and if i have to go to the jungle and can't charge my phone i will buy the bigger battery and won't mind about the thickness of my phone ^^
Just my thinkings
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I actually can confirm, I can go with my phone with minimal to moderate use for several days. But when I am at work and playing with it nonstop - 4 hours maximum. That is why I got myself a GTMax battery
AntonJart said:
I actually can confirm, I can go with my phone with minimal to moderate use for several days. But when I am at work and playing with it nonstop - 4 hours maximum. That is why I got myself a GTMax battery
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I would also agree with this statement. None-the-less, I ordered one of the 1600mah batteries yesterday. We're gonna have to wait a few weeks for it to clear customs however before I can do any testing.
Not the first...
I have the andida 1600 Ma and it is labeled as Lithium Polymer.
I bought a 1600 mAh labeled battery from eBay which came with very good packaging and even a tin case. The labels on the sticker make it seem fancy and trustworthy. However, in my experience comparing that battery with the stock HTC 1230 mAh battery, there is no increase in uptime. On Aondroid both batteries read 1230 mAh. Even though the 1600 mAh battery claims to have that capacity it really does not. I even weighed both batteries on a scale. The 1600 mAh Li-on battery weighs less than the HTC original battery.
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yassy said:
I bought a 1600 mAh labeled battery from eBay which came with very good packaging and even a tin case. The labels on the sticker make it seem fancy and trustworthy. However, in my experience comparing that battery with the stock HTC 1230 mAh battery, there is no increase in uptime. On Aondroid both batteries read 1230 mAh. Even though the 1600 mAh battery claims to have that capacity it really does not. I even weighed both batteries on a scale. The 1600 mAh Li-on battery weighs less than the HTC original battery.
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It's not possible that a stronger battery is as big as the stock one. most of these people only put another label on a stock battery (or rebuild battery with the same power) and sell it for a higher price. I'm sure you won't get a Li-Ion battery with the same size as the stock one but stronger. With a Li-Po battery it's makeable but not easy and they'll have a higher price because of that.
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It's not possible that a stronger battery is as big as the stock one. most of these people only put another label on a stock battery (or rebuild battery with the same power) and sell it for a higher price. I'm sure you won't get a Li-Ion battery with the same size as the stock one but stronger. With a Li-Po battery it's makeable but not easy and they'll have a higher price because of that.
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The price makes me suspicious as well. I don't notice a lot of difference in device up time with my Andida battery, but it is still new and it may increase as I get past those initial cycles.
... if I don't reflash more NRG ROMs! They give strange readings for the first few battery cycles after a flash. I just flashed one yesterday, so it will be a while before it settles down.
The Chinese knockoff battery got here today. We're about to find out if it can hold It's own once I put it through the first few charge cycles.
It's sad that I'm able to get an 1800 mAh battery for my G2 that isn't appreciably bigger than the stock 1300 mAh, but there's nothing equivalent for my HD2.
Can't you return it. There should be eBay's buyer protectiontion just say buyer gave you the wrong item
Hi all,
I would like to buy a same size as ori battery with highest capacity available in the market now..
Anyone know where could I get it? What is the battery capacity? And lastly what is the price range? Thanks ya.. I'm searching for it as i donwan to charge my phone twice a day.. quite irritating..
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there are a few ebay sellers who sell the genuine htc battery. just search for "genuine htc ba s520" on ebay. most are based in uk. all around 15 - 20 gbp.
you will find several chinese aftermarket batteries claiming higher capacity than the 1450mah of the genuine battery, but beware. none of them (i've tested a few) actually last longer than the htc battery, in my experience. and i don't know if the quality can be trusted. they do cost a lot less than the genuine battery so it is a cheaper option.
u can try dc mugen
I want higher capacity battery so that my phone last longer between charging.. not HTC ori battery with same capacity.. thanks ya..
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syc7090 said:
there are a few ebay sellers who sell the genuine htc battery. just search for "genuine htc ba s520" on ebay. most are based in uk. all around 15 - 20 gbp.
you will find several chinese aftermarket batteries claiming higher capacity than the 1450mah of the genuine battery, but beware. none of them (i've tested a few) actually last longer than the htc battery, in my experience. and i don't know if the quality can be trusted. they do cost a lot less than the genuine battery so it is a cheaper option.
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they are fakes, some even are worse than the original batteries, someone proved it here at XDA on the i9000 forum, can't find the link atm though
celaw said:
I want higher capacity battery so that my phone last longer between charging.. not HTC ori battery with same capacity.. thanks ya..
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If it would be possible to put more capacity in the same size battery HTC would have done that from the start, you're only option is to get one of those fat 3500mah batteries from ebay with a thicker battery cover, i'm thinking of getting one of those, unfortunatly i can't put a silicon case around the phone then ...
is anyone aware which is better battery among the custom makers ?
Will be great if that is available in India .
4000mAh Battery
Just bought one of those chinese 4000 mAh batteries on ebay.
The [email protected]#$%^ thing won't let me switch on mobile network (3G) ?????????!!
Real Handy.......wifi, bluetooth, gps all fine.
It may be an HTC issue, like Windows, doesn't like hardware changes, it may be the rear case,who knows?
It's a thumping big thing, twice the size, but I only get about another half a day.....Whooopeee.
Thankfully it was only about five bucks.
Anyone have a similar issue ?
61locky said:
Just bought one of those chinese 4000 mAh batteries on ebay.
The [email protected]#$%^ thing won't let me switch on mobile network (3G) ?????????!!
Real Handy.......wifi, bluetooth, gps all fine.
It may be an HTC issue, like Windows, doesn't like hardware changes, it may be the rear case,who knows?
It's a thumping big thing, twice the size, but I only get about another half a day.....Whooopeee.
Thankfully it was only about five bucks.
Anyone have a similar issue ?
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i think you only should get the ORIGINAL HTC INCREDIBLE S EXTENDED DOOR * (can be search at ebay) & it's different connection (cover door) ...
but im not responsible/warranty...take at your own risk..
* im still using it
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SEIDIO SUPER EXTENDED LIFE BATTERY FOR HTC INCREDIBLE S
extended battery/door
Thanks mate, I'll take a look.
I've been using the previously mentioned Mugen 3700 mA extended battery (larger, yes, but I'm used to it already) for 2.5 weeks now.
I've completed calibrating and conditioning the battery thru the 5 discharge cycles as instructed, followed by some of the lore I've sifted from xda. It's been useful.
I used to charge in morning and had to be careful not to use my phone too much and need to charge again in one day if I used it a fair amount. My incS was used, so stock battery probably had wear.
Now I get two full days of moderate-somewhat heavy use, and very far into the 3rd day if I use it just for (many) texts and a few short calls and it sleeps half the time or more.
E.g., charged before bed, sat unplugged during sleep, heavy use today (gps for 30+ min, browsing, texts) and 71% capacity as of now.
-nerB
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Good try! how much it cost?
That's meant so far no identical battery with longer battery life (i.e. last 1 whole day for moderate to heavy use)? sigh...
celaw said:
That's meant so far no identical battery with longer battery life (i.e. last 1 whole day for moderate to heavy use)? sigh...
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Stick to genuine HTC batteries. Most of the Ebay fakes are far lower quality and often are mislabeled (especially if it claims higher capacity in the same form factor).
Your phone should last at least 24 hours on one charge though (unless you're using it very heavily). Try changing your habits a bit (turning off data/wifi when not using it) and also maybe try a battery calibration. If you do a battery calibration make sure you read a few guides on google and do it properly otherwise you will most likely be worse off.
Some aftermarket hi capacity battery need a special battery cover which makes it very ugly
I bought the 3500 mAh battery with fat back cover (from Ebay). Its a chinese ****s production... We know that on our IncS the antenna is placed inside of back cover. This chinese cover has some antenna as well, but the signal is much worse. For example with original cover I get like 4 full bars. With chinese ****s cover I get only 2-3 bars.
Im already having troubles with the signal in some places, but with this cover it will be even worse.. So I stay with my original HTC back cover. Dunno what to do with this 3500 battery..
why don't you buy another stock battery ?
i think stock one is gd enough.
I think that MUGEN 3600mAh is optimal high-capacity battery on the market. Its stable and reliable...
Seidio 3500mAH
deep771043 said:
I think that MUGEN 3600mAh is optimal high-capacity battery on the market. Its stable and reliable...
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Has any1 tried using Seidio batteries for Incredible S?
Apparently, they claim to use Lithium Polymer technology as opposed to Lithium-ion.
Wikipedia says Polymer is superior to ion but also more expensive.
Only mobile manufacturer known to supply phones with Lithium Polymer batteries is Sony Ericsson.
Seido 3500mAH battery for HTC Incredible S is on eBay for $69. It says its assembled in Taiwan? Its also not as FAT as Mugen's but still needs a back door, which is included. They also have a website.
Mugen might have a new, superior competitor.
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I think that MUGEN 3600mAh is optimal high-capacity battery on the market. Its stable and reliable...
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Works nice!
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rudem0e said:
Has any1 tried using Seidio batteries for Incredible S?
Apparently, they claim to use Lithium Polymer technology as opposed to Lithium-ion.
Wikipedia says Polymer is superior to ion but also more expensive.
Only mobile manufacturer known to supply phones with Lithium Polymer batteries is Sony Ericsson.
Seido 3500mAH battery for HTC Incredible S is on eBay for $69. It says its assembled in Taiwan? Its also not as FAT as Mugen's but still needs a back door, which is included. They also have a website.
Mugen might have a new, superior competitor.
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I just bought one from Ebay, it should probably land here on wednesday.
After i get it, calibrate it and get into it i'll let you guys know if its worth its money.
Like title says.. I've been trying to find a extended battery which has higher capacity yet the size of the original battery but no luck
Does anyone know if there is one and where to fine one
Thanks
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are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty
If the battery is the same size it could in theory have more juice but it would be negligible. Seriously though, I picked up a charging cradle with battery charging slot and 2 spare batteries for $20. I also have a car charger and 3 chargers in my house. Unless you get a battery that is about double the size, you won't see a big difference and even then many batteries don't live up to their specs. Chargers and spare batteries are cheap. We're not dealing with smartphones of a decade ago where everything was proprietary and would cost at least $30 a pop.
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I remember reading something about this... I think it might have even been on this forum but it was something along the lines of "Don't you think, if it were possible to fit more juice into the same size battery, that samsung wouldn't do that with their OEM batteries?"
Samsung, and I'm sure many other major device manufacturers don't just buy a battery off ebay and throw it in their phones. they spend time and money researching better battery technologies to get the best power/life they can.
It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.
Surnom said:
It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.
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Be careful buying those batteries. More often than not they just repackage 1500 batteries and Mark up the price :/
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After 3 complete charge cycle its a little bit better than OEM but no big improvement. I'll see in a few more days.
I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.
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I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.
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How long have you had the battery? I'm looking for a new one as well but not if I am going to get scammed. Thanks!
Not Nexus related, but I have a vibrant that I got the Galaxy S 2 Epic 4G Touch battery for recently. Battery life went from about 6 hours to dead (month old 1500 mAh replacement battery bought at a phone hut) to 34 hours to dead (new samsung 1800mAh battery.) Nothing else changed.
My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start? (hint, it is always about money.)
2. Take a crap 1500 mAh battery, slap a 1800 mAh sticker on it. People that buy these batteries will see an improvement because most generally they are replacing a worn out battery with a new one. Of course you will see an improvement, your worn out stock battery has only (arbitrary number) 600 mAh worth of usefulness left. The replacement is new and is not worn yet. (All arbitrary numbers follow) So, you will still see an improvement if you take a rated 1500mAh battery, that is labeled 1800mAh, but is in actuality only 1000mAh.
So asking if there is another, bigger, better battery for the Nexus made by Samsung, is a very valid question. So:
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are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty
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Yes it is possible. Search the Vibrant, and Fascinate/Mezmerize forum for examples.
Its about 6-7 days old, bought it on EBAY from this place:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ladyblue1974/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686
t1n0m3n said:
My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start?
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Because it is a device from 2 years ago (2010) and the S2 is from q3 2011. Maybe two years allowed them to cram more juice into the battery.
Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
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Yes, as you so eloquently rephrased, "it's always about money." I noticed you left that part out of your quote of me.
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Flukzr said:
I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?
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"Take a crap 1500 mAh battery" In this case "crap"="non oem"
I figured that would be obvious with my prior "phone hut" comment. I guess not.
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I am a big fan of the OEM batteries. I have not tested a non-oem battery that will perform anywhere close to the stated specifications so far.
If you guys find some good battery reviews, tests, etc. please post up.
Keep in mind that comparing a brand new "Craptastic Brand™" battery to your old worn out OEM battery is kind of pointless for getting a feel of the comparative quality/capacity of a battery.
klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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Dude that looks good for $20! Post more details! I might be getting that
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klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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is that battery same size like the original battery?
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yes tjackbjorn, same size
klorin said:
yes tjackbjorn, same size
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okey, does it work properly? Think I maybe buy one, it wasn't too expensive!
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yes, it works properly. I had used my original battery for 12 months when I switched over to this one. The improvement was very noticeable.
I just charged my phone to 99%, I will report back in 24 hours with battery information and battery history since unplugged.
Sounds great!
I bought tthis battery off eBay for $14.
I must say I am impressed.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=121019770043
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skugpezz said:
I bought tthis battery off eBay for $14.
I must say I am impressed.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=121019770043
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You do realize its capacity is anywhere from 2500 mAh to 3100 mAh, not really 4000 mAh? It's physically impossible to fit bigger higher capacity cells into single OEM battery size. Typically these ebay batteries, like Golden 4200 mAh, are closer to 2500 mAh (I have tested a few), but from your screenshots and the fact it costs over $10 - I think its safe to assume it will be closer to OEM 3100 mAh. Just gotta watch out for any bulging which happens with these over time especially when you charge them at full 2A speed, and you probably going to notice performance to go down in about 3-4 months.
Sorry bro, didn't mean to rain on your parade. It's just a fact with these ebay batteries.
skugpezz said:
I bought tthis battery off eBay for $14.
I must say I am impressed.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=121019770043
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Well it doesn' t seem much, if any, better than stock battery.
It is surely better than my stock battery. So it can't be less than 3100mah. Has to be higher.
It is not physically impossible. Not sure where you got that info from.
You didn't rain on my parade. I have results to prove it. My stock battery is now used as back. No use for it day to day now.
Only idiots buy golden battery lol.
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skugpezz said:
It is surely better than my stock battery. So it can't be less than 3100mah. Has to be higher.
It is not physically impossible. Not sure where you got that info from.
You didn't rain on my parade. I have results to prove it. My stock battery is now used as back. No use for it day to day now.
Only idiots buy golden battery lol.
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Ooh, you just offended a bunch of people on this forum who got Golden batteries hoping they will get 4200 mAh for $6
Unless you have some latest ground breaking info about new development in battery cell density, Samsung used the highest density battery in their OEM footprint. It's a fact. The only way to maximize it was by doubling the size, thus all the reputable companies had double thickness/capacity with 6200 mAh batteries and Zerolemon had it at triple with 9300 mAh. The only company that was able to squeezed a bit more was Mugen who does their own development and was able to squeeze in 6400 mAh in double capacity.
To verify capacity of your battery, looking at performance with screen on time, etc is not accurate. Especially since you are comparing it to an original battery with aged performance. You need to get an external hardware battery tester where you charge the battery to a full capacity and let it discharge down to 2.4V cutoff voltage while monitoring the actual current drain over time to get the exact capacity in mAh.
Btw, just for sh!ts'n'giggles, take the label off your battery to see what is stamped in there as actual capacity
I dont need to get anything. ..
My real world usage proves this last longer than my stock battery. I bought this battery to use as a backup but now my stock battery is the backup.
Are you saying mu screenshots are fake?
Also if you're point was valid, aa batteries come in one size right?
Why are there 800mah, 1200mah and 1600mah aa batteries?
I am happy and surprised with my purchase. Doesn't matter what you might think. My screen shots prove it.
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skugpezz said:
I dont need to get anything. ..
My real world usage proves this last longer than my stock battery. I bought this battery to use as a backup but now my stock battery is the backup.
Are you saying mu screenshots are fake?
Also if you're point was valid, aa batteries come in one size right?
Why are there 800mah, 1200mah and 1600mah aa batteries?
I am happy and surprised with my purchase. Doesn't matter what you might think. My screen shots prove it.
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Chill bro, I'm not doubting your screenshots or your experience. As I said, it sounds like you probably got 3100 mAh battery. That's all. As someone who reviews a lot of accessories and gadgets on XDA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192333) and helps other members on this forum, I just want to be sure other people are not mislead by thinking they can get 4000 mAh battery because Note 2 battery with such capacity doesn't exist. Period. Neither does anything over 3200 mAh since I remember testing my Anker 3100 mAh to be slightly higher then stock capacity. The screenshots are real, I'm not doubting it, but that is call a "relative test" to another reference of someone else using stock capacity battery under different conditions with different setting and running different apps. We had people reporting poor performance with ZL 9300 mAh while the fact is they were comparing it to stock battery performance from 3-4 months ago when they had different setup with different apps, etc.
Just calm down, enjoy your battery, and spend a little bit of time reading this website with a lot of Note 2 battery reviews and explanation how they really being tested: http://www.batteryreview.info/
Ok just making sure you aren't hating lol.
I didnt say I believe it to be 4000mah. I just believe it is higher than 3100mah because it lasts longer.
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Ok just making sure you aren't hating lol.
I didnt say I believe it to be 4000mah. I just believe it is higher than 3100mah because it lasts longer.
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It lasts longer cause its a new 3100 that hasn't degraded like the one you are currently used to.
gNOTE2 rolling in the north
My stock battery has never lasted like this under my usage.
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LordRalh3 said:
It lasts longer cause its a new 3100 that hasn't degraded like the one you are currently used to.
gNOTE2 rolling in the north
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It's probly a case of new 3100MAH compared to your used original 3100MAH
Only new battery tech could squeeze juice more into the same physical battery.
New battery tech wouldn't be sold for $14. :good:
Anyway at $14 that's not bad. Let us know how it performs over time. Cheaper than buying an original Samsung 3100mah
Just got this
Just got this battery and managed to last over 7hrs of onscreen time doing mostly messaging, web browsing, watching videos off the microsd card and youtube.
Auto-brightness was set to about 30% (was more than sufficient for an overcast day and 8 hours in the office).
Had location services turned on, gmail and Exchange syncing. Also had music playing (Poweramp) for most of the work day.
Hope this helps any others looking to give this a try.
No idea if I will get this sort of screen time on the stock battery as I've only had a half day use of it (bought the phone used off ebay and got the extended battery at the same time).
I get these same stats on my stock battery. Running ADHD 18 with latest Perseus kernel
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Im not impressed
As i can see your screen on time is just 4+ hours, i can say im getting somewhat 6-7 hours screen on time with my 7 months old stock sammy battery
As far as I'm aware the Mugen battery is the best available at 3200mah. The Anker one being a better value for money choic3 at slightly higher than stock.
I have no way of actually testing this though, but there's no way the OP's battery is anywhere near 4000mah.
On a similar note, does anyone know of any tools to accurately measure these battery capacities?
–edit sorry wrong link that was for testing cords not batteries
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I see the reviews here are pretty old now.... so can anyone of you update the status of your battery performance now?
im sorry but i think zerolemon is better with 9300 if u dont mind the bulk