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I live in the Atlanta, Ga. Metro area. I have noticed that my internet speed would start out at normal speed then get very very slow after a few minutes. I tried some speed tests and the First two Test gets 1250 Kbits, then the speed drops to 200 Kbits and stays there as long as I am connected. If I wait a bit and reconnect, I get the same pattern, a fast connection then an 80% drop in speed.
Is anyone else experiancing this problen on AT%T??
I'm in Atlanta too, but I haven't really noticed that discrepancy.
Your title is pretty much nonsense.
Perhaps what you meant to say was "AT&T's network is so overloaded the speed randomy drops 80%".
Howard Forums has a lot in this regard. AT&T is just overloaded. They've made some adjustments, and it's helped. 4-6 weeks ago I couldn't even download a file without it completely stalling most of the time, now it usually finishes, although probably slower.
Supposedly It's a known problem and it's being resolved as soon as they get to it. I assume it means additional upgrades to infrastructure.
khaytsus said:
Your title is pretty much nonsense.
Perhaps what you meant to say was "AT&T's network is so overloaded the speed randomy drops 80%".
Howard Forums has a lot in this regard. AT&T is just overloaded. They've made some adjustments, and it's helped. 4-6 weeks ago I couldn't even download a file without it completely stalling most of the time, now it usually finishes, although probably slower.
Supposedly It's a known problem and it's being resolved as soon as they get to it. I assume it means additional upgrades to infrastructure.
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NO Nonsense, what I meant to say was "AT&T cutting 3G speed by 80%" and there is nothing random about it. I can consistantly log on at any time and do one or two speed tests at 1200 mbs then the speed drops to 200 Kbs until I log off. Then log on again and get 1200 Kbs and the speed is dropped to 200 Kbs again. They appear to be detecting large blocks of data and cutting your speed down substantually.
I noticed that if you use wap.cingular as your APN, it does seem to be a bit slower. Luckily for me, I have an actual data connect plan and am able to set up my APN as isp.cingular. Maybe its a PLACEBO, but if im not mistaken, the server that ALL of the Iphone data runs through is the wap.cingular, freeing up the other APN for me . Also, change your dns to an opendns server as that may help with some of the initial latencies. I for some reason have NEVER had an issue with the whole proxy setting dilemma ( maybe because of my specific data plan ) but this may also bottleneck your data too
Hope some of this helps
Dude if my 3G dropped to 200 mbits, I'd be a happy camper.
Is it just me or are you confusing your numbers? If that was the case you could download a file at 20 Megabytes per second after TCP overhead initially then it would drop to 2 MB/s. Now I logically think you either added an extra 0 or two or you ment kilobits.
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Dude if my 3G dropped to 200 mbits, I'd be a happy camper.
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Dude if I had a Kaiser and a Diamond and Touch Pro I would be a happy camper
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Dude if my 3G dropped to 200 mbits, I'd be a happy camper.
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It wont be long before cellular communications reach that speed ( I hope lol )
Also, does anyone else use the isp.cingular APN and notice a diff, or is it just all in my head lol
AllTheWay said:
Dude if I had a Kaiser and a Diamond and Touch Pro I would be a happy camper
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LOL, you just implement tables in the signature and up the maximum size so I can list all my other devices too, and I'll be almost as happy a camper as having 200mbit 3G
(doing mobile software for a living does have some benefits...)
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LOL, you just implement tables in the signature and up the maximum size so I can list all my other devices too, and I'll be almost as happy a camper as having 200mbit 3G
(doing mobile software for a living does have some benefits...)
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Yes it does.
Hopefully by Monday I will order my AT&T Fuze and then join the ranks of the elite
Will see you in the Raphael forum my brother
Speed is a real issue no 3G and it's likely going to get worse when the Bold is released on 11/4. Here's an explanation of the problem: http://tiltmobility.com/2008/09/speculations-and-networks/
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Is it just me or are you confusing your numbers? If that was the case you could download a file at 20 Megabytes per second after TCP overhead initially then it would drop to 2 MB/s. Now I logically think you either added an extra 0 or two or you ment kilobits.
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you are right, I meant Kbps.
I use the wap.cingular network and have noticed slower speeds, can someone give me the open dns numbers to plug in?
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I use the wap.cingular network and have noticed slower speeds, can someone give me the open dns numbers to plug in?
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Try this .cab DNS included
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I live in the Atlanta, Ga. Metro area. I have noticed that my internet speed would start out at normal speed then get very very slow after a few minutes. I tried some speed tests and the First two Test gets 1250 megabits, then the speed drops to 200 megabits and stays there as long as I am connected. If I wait a bit and reconnect, I get the same pattern, a fast connection then an 80% drop in speed.
Is anyone else experiancing this problen on AT%T??
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I'm also in metro Atlanta, but I'm not seeing that. However in recent weeks, I have noticed HSDPA coverage has expanded a bit -- I'm getting it in places I never did before.
Also, your speed figures sound about 1000x higher than I've seen; perhaps you mean kilobits/sec?
I would love to have those speeds. Most of the time where I live the edge is faster than 3G.
I would just love to have 3g in general. Edge only. My sling box is sad
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I'm also in metro Atlanta, but I'm not seeing that. However in recent weeks, I have noticed HSDPA coverage has expanded a bit -- I'm getting it in places I never did before.
Also, your speed figures sound about 1000x higher than I've seen; perhaps you mean kilobits/sec?
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Yes, as every one has noticed, I did mean kbits.
Where in the Atlanta area have you noticed HSDPA? I move around Atlanta quite a bit and have never seen the "H" on my phone. I looked all over the AT&T site and did not find a coverage map for HSDA. Have you seen it any where around the Alpharetta/Woodstock area?
Hey guys, possibly a biased place to be asking this but is it worth me buying this phone? I would get it on Orange for £25 a month when they get it back in stock
Unlimited texts, fair few minutes as well.
What are the APPS like for it? Do the pros outweigh the cons? Easy to type?
Sorry for the noob questions but I really need a new phone and this looks good.
I was originally thinking the LG Renoir but even with custom firmware it still sounds buggy.
Just wanna hear the opinions of people who have had the phone for a while and had to time to play about a bit
Thanks
Jacob
Shoud you buy it?
I had a SPV M700 for a while but it had limited internal ram (50mb useable) which restricted use of 3rd party software so i upgraded to a diamond.
I have been using it for a week and I am not impressed.
Its advertised as 198 / 256 ram depending on the version but actually only has 105mb usable ram.
There is a lot of lag when switching programs and you miss a lot of incoming calls due to lag in the slide to answer function.
It does not have a dedicated camera button. The camera is slow to take a pic as it has to autofocus before the shutter clicks.
My biggest gripe is the navigation pad. It is very low quality and awkward to manouvre that it is almost unusable. The M700 has a high quality precision pad which is a delight to use.
Battery life is particularly poor, lasting about a day and a half.
If you flash it with good cooked ROM Diamon becomes a good device but if you want only Stock SW else it isn't impressive...
"...I would get it on Orange for £25 a month when they get it back in stock
Unlimited texts, fair few minutes as well how you pay now." the question is: How much do I pay now?
D'rath
Well I would flash it with a cooked ROM
Does anyone have a site or thread which explains all about having a phone with Windows Mobile because I have never used the software before and would like to gain a basic understanding of modding the phone.
But still, do the pros outweigh the cons?
If not what would you recomend in the same price range?
Thanks
Jacob
Read XDA forums
WM is hard the first time: you must change a lot of things, registry hack etc... if you won't do that else buy iPhone or a basic cellphone.
D'rath
Well this is one of the best phone to have...
Infact i had HTC TOUCH before...then i got Diamond...this piece of art is so cool and delicate that initially you bound to take utmost care while using it...but in couple of weeks u will fell in love with this device...according to me its one of the best device to own
dont think 2ice go for it
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Well this is one of the best phone to have...
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I'd second that. Having owned one for about 9 months I am still impressed by my HTC Diamond even (or particularly) when comparing to Iphones, Omnias, Palms etc.
Why? Mainly because it is VGA resolution, the SMALLEST Smartphone usable I found and cute.
Main thing is to get a good ROM ( I used the NAKED 2.03 one) and software of your choice and you are done. Costs around 100 Euros for me in terms of software but now it does EVERYTHING I need and want: Calendar Thumbcal, SBP Mobile Shell, G-Alarm, Lingvosoft Dictionaries, AudioTouch, Coreplayer, and Most Importantly: TouchPAL keyboard with Multi language support, plus some freeware tools). On Top TomTOm and you are done.
Battery life is around 3-4 days for me. But the UNIQUE SELLING PROPERTY is definitively the excellent small form factor and its beauty ;-)
Plus, now you should get it quite cheap (got mine for 180 Euros on ebay MINT).
Are you sure you get that much battery life.
Cause i had heard it doesnt last long, maximum a day.
Battery life is my major concern otherwise i am getting this phone.
The best is HD (big display makes diffence!!!)
2 days could be normal but if you call a lot, web, road Nav etc battery run away
On my HD 2 day with normal use
D'rath
In all honesty, I would say do not buy it.
Not because the phone is crap; I love my diamond, there are still parts I dislike but overall it's a keeper. My battery, with normal use, some gps, googlemapping, exchange direct push, 2 other mailboxes, 2 days on battery is certainly doable. The camera sucks though...fps is too low except in the best of lighting conditions. It is certainly NOT what the marketing shows it..
But, they are about to release the update (I thought they already did in europe?)
The new HTC google phones look nice, and will have all the functionality of this phone (including exchange).
The palm pre is nice also..a coworker just bought one..it doesn't have full exchange support yet (security policies). It really does seem like a nice phone..I wish I made more money I'd just buy all the cool phones and try them out. hah
Windows mobile is too outdated...they need to really get on the ball. HTC shouldn't have to create a layer on top to make it functional. And even then..the engine running behind the scenes is too slow, compared to the competition. I really think, unless you need an app that is only on windows mobile, get one of the other 3 phones (gphone, iphone, pre), or wait.
I dont care about the camera(coming from touch), so its still better for me.
Battery life is ma major concern, if it gets 2 days of normal usage than i am getting this phone.
OK its important question, please answer it.
How much time will the battery last if playing FM radio continously????
And is it worth buying used diamond for 200 USD??
Hmm, don't use FM radio much, but a lot of MP3 which should be similar. Though continuously??? probably a cheap radio for 10 $ is more suitable??
Anyway, with about one hour MP3s per day mine lasts 3 or four days depending on WIFI and HPS usage mainly.
Moreover, you can get a 30 Euros Battery which just adds 3mm thickness but 50% more battery which I will buy for sure once mine dies.
Compared to the PRE, I or G Phone, obviously they are nice, just in my opinion TOO BIG since you cannot write a novel anyhow on the device so I prefer one which compoares to very small phones, easily sits in the shirt pocket and is lightweight. Other than that, obviously go for a newer version, you get bit more speed and screen size.
In the end, its all a matter of taste and yes, Windows Mobile is crap but with Mobile Shell and other software, i hardly see it on my device.
Should you buy it?
It all depends on the type of person you are
If you are a gadget geek and like experimenting with new software etc then this is an ideal phone because there is lot of support, free, hacked and commercial software available.
Also
If you use Office software at work and need outllook / excell etc. on the move then buy it. The GPS and wifi functions are brilliant on this phone. The GPS coupled with TOMTOM is mile better than Iphone and for a lot less dollars.
On the other hand if you want a 100% reliable and user friendly phone then go for dedicated phone as this is a jack of all trades and will occasionally let you down.
The best analogy one can give is playing games on a PC and a playstation / xbox. The PC will occasionally freeze and need restarting whereas the PS/xbox will run the games flawlessly everytime BUT that is all they will do.
I am a new user of a Samsung Captivate on AT&T, right now I'm not rooted and running the stock software, I generally love the phone, it's much better than my iPhone 3GS and I don't have many issues, except that my upload speed is slow.
I got tired of dropped calls on my iphone and my knowledge of other non-iphone AT&T users seems to indicate that the iphone is the problem with dropped call, the captivate holds on to a call, MUCH better than my old iphone and the download speeds are good, streaming music at High Quality via audiogalaxy is working great.
So I don't think their is anything wrong with my phone.
Testing the phone at work, which is generally has excellent reception for AT&T. I get 1.5 - 2mbps down, which is about what I used to get on my iPhone. But I only get around 150kbps up, my 3GS was even much faster than that in this location usually averaging 250kbps and this phone is supposed an upload speed closer to the iPhone 4 I believe.
Any captivate users on AT&T have a similar issue?
I'm in a terrible reception area at work - would need to test at home...
Currently 128k Down and 256k up
I'm kind of wondering if it's a problem left over from moving my sim from my iphone3GS to the samsung captivate, I had to call to get them to change a data plan and to reset my voicemail to the standard old school voicemail.
I've been using the phone for a week and I've never gone over 250kbps with this phone, but according to the specs I should be getting much better upload speeds.
In central NJ AT&T is actually pretty good and we have consistent 3G coverage, so I it's not like I'm out in the boonies somewhere and that's why my upload is slow.
Guess I should call AT&T.
Your upload speed is normally much lower than your download speed. If you were to do the same test on your broadband at home, you would get maybe if you are lucky 3 mega up for every 30 mega down.
Its how all isps are. The problem is not because of your sim. Also keep in mind that a heavily congested area (new York) will always have bad speeds. The more people with data hogging devices, the slower speeds you will see.
Try doing the bandwidth test again in the middle of.the night or early morning when most people are asleep. You might see some very nice speeds then.
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I got my answer
I didn't realize that AT&T disabled HSUPA, I just knew the hardware supported it. and since I'm on the stock firmware that is what is keeping me at 150 - 250kbps.
Thanks for the help guys, it wasn't a big thing like I said but I wanted to know if the problem was my old sim card.
Hello I'm still on my G6 and planning to upgrade soon. (OLED and camera improvements, hopefully battery)
I'm now having my eye on the Huawei P30 and LG V40, can't decide. Size doesn't really matter, does someone have experience with both phones? I like to keep the 3,5mm, however I'm using a Bluetooth a lot last few months.
They both are around 350 euro's now, recommendations?
Yes, but 350€ is too much imho, you can almost get 2019 phones for that money. Battery life isn't stellar but better than reviews suggest.
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Yes, but 350€ is too much imho, you can almost get 2019 phones for that money. Battery life isn't stellar but better than reviews suggest.
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What phones would you suggest? The galaxy S10 is still around 500, I love OnePlus for the tweakability but no extendable storage and 3.5 mm. And the pro edition is huge (6,7 inch)
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What phones would you suggest? The galaxy S10 is still around 500, I love OnePlus for the tweakability but no extendable storage and 3.5 mm. And the pro edition is huge (6,7 inch)
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v40 is a good phone and with Android 10 out for it (att ) the ATT phone is best for the Euro Market, just make sure its unlocked. You can then keep it stock and get the update to android 10 if its not already, or just flash it over to the unlocked firmware when it comes out.
350 euro is about double what you should be paying for it.
Teh battery life is good but not the best out there, i still mage on average a full day wuth 4.5 hours at 70% brightness, no gaming, just browsing and youtube.
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v40 is a good phone and with Android 10 out for it (att ) the ATT phone is best for the Euro Market, just make sure its unlocked. You can then keep it stock and get the update to android 10 if its not already, or just flash it over to the unlocked firmware when it comes out.
350 euro is about double what you should be paying for it.
Teh battery life is good but not the best out there, i still mage on average a full day wuth 4.5 hours at 70% brightness, no gaming, just browsing and youtube.
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Thanks! But ATT is for the US market right? I'm from the Netherlands, so I don't think the risk and shipping cost will make it worth it to import. The 350 euro version is with 128 GB in built storage, but on my G6 I also still get around 4-5 hours SOT?
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Thanks! But ATT is for the US market right? I'm from the Netherlands, so I don't think the risk and shipping cost will make it worth it to import. The 350 euro version is with 128 GB in built storage, but on my G6 I also still get around 4-5 hours SOT?
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Just the EU model. Its much easier to unlock as it has official bootloader unlocking
You could also have a look at the Mi9T pro for 350 euros or so.
DON'T buy the US model if you're not planning to use it in US, unless its the last choice or is much cheaper
@tech_infinity Unfortunately the Mi9T Pro EU version goes till 128 GB storage. I need more, so the 256 GB one but that one isn't sold in Europe unfortunately ?
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@tech_infinity Unfortunately the Mi9T Pro EU version goes till 128 GB storage. I need more, so the 256 GB one but that one isn't sold in Europe unfortunately
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Oh I thought it had SD card support, that's why I suggested it. Seems like it doesn't have sd card support
How much does the Samsung s10 or note 9 cost there?
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Oh I thought it had SD card support, that's why I suggested it. Seems like it doesn't have sd card support
How much does the Samsung s10 or note 9 cost there?
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S10 is €570, note 9 is €600
But then I don't gain on audio right? Only camera maybe a little bit. For 250 euros more I think the V40 camera with gcam would be good enough. Or then the Huawei P30?
In the US the phones are way less expensive I think, better deals. Western Europe is just expensive phones
I just sold my Galaxy Note 10 (which I bought after V30) and now using V40. Very pleased overall.
Cameras on newest Samsung flagships are just TRAGIC given the money You spend on them and wouldn't recommend buying any of them.
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I just sold my Galaxy Note 10 (which I bought after V30) and now using V40. Very pleased overall.
Cameras on newest Samsung flagships are just TRAGIC given the money You spend on them and wouldn't recommend buying any of them.
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Hmm interesting. Anything other than camera that made you switch to V40?
Was thinking about buying a v40 or a samsung flagship
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Hmm interesting. Anything other than camera that made you switch to V40?
Was thinking about buying a v40 or a samsung flagship
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To be honest, not much. I just always felt bad with how inconsistent that camera was. In good light conditions it could produce a beauty of a picture just to screw things up in another. Lowlight photos were better than on V40, but required a LOT of steady hand - so you can achieve the same effect on LG using pro mode and setting the time of capturing for few seconds. Also I felt that it was always trying to process a photo to make it look better, which sometimes gave just bad results - oversaturated (especially on front camera) and with strange artefacts. You could say the main disappointment came from the fact how much money I've spent on Samsung and results of its camera. The battery was ok, but given the screen is only 1080p that was expected.
Keep in mind that bigger Note10+ has TOF sensor and possibly could manage photos better. But given how there are many problems with S20 cameras (especially on the Ultra model) it could just be that Samsung cameras are going downhill.
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To be honest, not much. I just always felt bad with how inconsistent that camera was. In good light conditions it could produce a beauty of a picture just to screw things up in another. Lowlight photos were better than on V40, but required a LOT of steady hand - so you can achieve the same effect on LG using pro mode and setting the time of capturing for few seconds. Also I felt that it was always trying to process a photo to make it look better, which sometimes gave just bad results - oversaturated (especially on front camera) and with strange artefacts. You could say the main disappointment came from the fact how much money I've spent on Samsung and results of its camera. The battery was ok, but given the screen is only 1080p that was expected.
Keep in mind that bigger Note10+ has TOF sensor and possibly could manage photos better. But given how there are many problems with S20 cameras (especially on the Ultra model) it could just be that Samsung cameras are going downhill.
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And how is battery performance for you on the V40? (SOT?)
I'll try to test it for You because I have a rather strict policy in keeping the battery charged more than 50% so cannot really say SOT specifics. But it is about the same as it was on Samsung and V30.
Ok so, after that post I unplugged charger at 94%, now at 10%. SOT 4h17min, 8h46min total usage. Facebook, Twitter, 9gag, camera (few photos and videos), some web browsing (chrome). Wifi, BT, GPS, data on all the time.
So I'd say it should reach about 5h SOT of moderate use from 100 to 0.
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Ok so, after that post I unplugged charger at 94%, now at 10%. SOT 4h17min, 8h46min total usage. Facebook, Twitter, 9gag, camera (few photos and videos), some web browsing (chrome). Wifi, BT, GPS, data on all the time.
So I'd say it should reach about 5h SOT of moderate use from 100 to 0.
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Okay thanks! That's about the same as on my G6 (still on fulmics android 7). Nowadays with Corona I'm on my phone much more and I have to recharge in the evening. Maybe Huawei P30, but I can't read anywhere about the audio quality through 3.5 mm jack, and whether it is tweakable.
I'm considering the V40 got the audio and price, but battery is a bit disappointing
TBH I was heavily thinking about P30, but lack of wireless charging made it a no-go for me. Also, those expensive nanoSD cards.
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TBH I was heavily thinking about P30, but lack of wireless charging made it a no-go for me. Also, those expensive nanoSD cards.
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I don't care much for wireless charging, what I'm more worried about is sound quality. I listen to music a lot, but I don't know if the audio quality (3.5mm) is anywhere near the quad DAC from LG..
And yeah, but maybe those cards are cheaper via AliExpress
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@tech_infinity Unfortunately the Mi9T Pro EU version goes till 128 GB storage. I need more, so the 256 GB one but that one isn't sold in Europe unfortunately
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Plus the Mi9 's are around 400 dpi. V40 is over 500dpi. I just bought one for 375 euro. I cant find a fast phone with high density oled screen for half the price as some are suggesting here.
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Plus the Mi9 's are around 400 dpi. V40 is over 500dpi. I just bought one for 375 euro. I cant find a fast phone with high density oled screen for half the price as some are suggesting here.
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Yeah I just received it today as well!
I only ask the question because 'technology' never stops. My 'computer' is an old Z600: 8GB old RAM, couple Xeon chips, 1GB ethernet. Ex-girlfriend's ex-husband gave me a sweet video card for it a couple years ago - 'course it was old and gross to him (so, maybe a year or 2), but pretty sweet to me. Now Nexuiz looks even better! Max settings!
More to the point, my router is pretty 'old'. It's a version 4 netgear wndr something that has been a pretty sweet ride for my lan, but, as I write, it's pretty old. I have dd-wrt on it, of course.
People say - dood, that's some old ****, I got the super-ultra-mega version X, with updated version this, and version that, for 12 million dollars and only one of my kids - DOOD - you should get it!!!
A few months ago the new router seed was planted in my head - I'm thinking about it - but, to what end? What am I missing? Anything? wi-fi 6?
It's only me in the house now - kids are grown, so their devices are gone. From that router I have the z600 as my main box (ethernet), serving up web, hosting pi-hole: I browse on it, watch movies, frag motherfukers, maybe some email; it's Debian, so, I'm always in a terminal because I can be, maybe some gimp... There's a roku in the bedroom, can't use 5Ghz - so, old wireless, couple new phones. That's it - my lan is no longer, really.
I'm not too sure at all that I need a new router. I mean, I have 3 more in the garage if this one craps out. Lol. The speeds I get on my lan are pretty good to me. I had dial-up, 52K was super-ultra-mega! - WTF! I can stream movies no problem, download lineageos images just-like-that, even on my phone when it's wi-fi connected on my lan. From my phone, anywhere in the house, I can use FX to connect to my computer and it's wicked fast - I can play music from an old dump on my computer downstairs doing laundry, or watch a video, or tweak the system, move files - so the wi-fi seems fast enough to me.
I have charter's lowest tier ISP service - 100 megabits per second. Pffft...it's barely better than the service I had in that one town 14 years ago! Still, it's 10 mb a second, at least. Which, is pretty f'kin fast to me. On 52K it was 10 minutes per MB, now it's 10MB per second, which, is pretty ancient, too!
I don't need a new router, do I? What will I gain, or, employ that I don't have now? To be honest, I'd buy one just to have a sunday morning of config'ing and rebuilding my lan, but, my ancient wisdom says - dood, 200 bucks is 200 bucks! That's gas for 3 weeks of getting to work. Gas! That's food for almost 2 weeks. Food! I'm just sayin' - my parents house cost 24,500, my car cost 32,000...
I use gas every day, and food - I use my router every day. I drink coffee every day and the only reason I'm not using a stainless steel percolator on my ancient gas stove every morning anymore is because waking up to a fresh pot of coffee that started automatically as I still slept is fuk'ing magic. How much better is wi-fi today, how much better are routers?
Not much I would say.
If you update the router you will also need to update the WiFI card on your computer.
new WiFi card will consume moar CPU power.
And things will be same.
Currently, your bottleneck is RAM followed by CPU not network.
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Currently, your bottleneck is RAM followed by CPU not network.
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sho'nuff