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ADDRESS BOOK & OTHER PROBS FACED SINCE GETTING KAISER!-1st TIME HTC USER, NEED HELP!

ADDRESS BOOK & OTHER PROBS FACED SINCE GETTING KAISER!-1st TIME HTC USER, NEED HELP!
Hey Everyone..
Have major probs with the following:
1) You can't have more than one mobile number per person. Some people have more than one number
2) Being able to create lists for purpose of emailing or texting a list. I mean you can create categories but you cant use the categories for anything apart from filtering your address book!???
3) Also being able to insert a number from your phonebook within a message (without sending a vcard)
4) When you slide out the keyboards, my appointments cant be seen on the screen (if held vertically you normally can, but when keyboard out you cant, well you can see the top of the text for this only) and you cant scroll down to see it neway but you should be able to see this only on the one page.
5) Speaker phone microphone doesnt work properly. People complain they cant hear me!
Anything out there to solve these?
Really appreicate your help.

1) You can't have more than one mobile number per person. Some people have more than one number
There more than 1 spot for phone #'s. work tel, mobile tel, home tel, car tel, company tel, work2 tel, home 2 tel. If someone you know has more than 7 phone #'s, and you didnt get them on the first 7 phones, they're probably dead in a gutter anyway.
2) Being able to create lists for purpose of emailing or texting a list. I mean you can create categories but you cant use the categories for anything apart from filtering your address book!???
Create lists for emailing or texting? Not sure what you mean here. But when sending email or texts, click on the "To:" and it will bring up your address book and you can add to your list of people getting it.
3) Also being able to insert a number from your phonebook within a message (without sending a vcard)
Pull up contacts. Select|copy| paste. It's just like windows XP.
4) When you slide out the keyboards, my appointments cant be seen on the screen (if held vertically you normally can, but when keyboard out you cant, well you can see the top of the text for this only) and you cant scroll down to see it neway but you should be able to see this only on the one page.
5) Speaker phone microphone doesnt work properly. People complain they cant hear me!
The speaker phone sucks on these phones and has since the first generation. Learn to not use it.

Hey Cheers for your reply,
in regards to your answers
1) Yep, I know you can put more than one number within that section, but lets say they have 2 mobile numbers (which many do these days to save money). Then if you put it within the home field you cant text it...?? Again anything that can be uploaded to improve this?
2) In terms of lists. On virtually every other fone..nokias, sony ericssons PDA phones, samsungs etc. You have the capability of making a list. i.e. if you are messaging the same group of people on a regular basis...e.g. for work you deal with a group of 10 contacts for a certain issue..you can select that list and it will come up with contacts in the "to" bit without selecting the contacts individually all the time..this is usually basic functionality in most phones to do this for texting and emailing..but surprised the Windows mobile doesnt have this. Its a function I have used a lot...so wondering if there is any program or something which can be uploaded to improve this?
3) With the copy and paste function tried it..and didnt work..even if it did.. it is really impractical..imagine you are writing a text to someone..Hi.blah blah blah..btw the number of ... is...and then as most phones again have..which is really basic..there should be an insert number from phonebook..but instead you have to come out of the whole text..go to the phonebook (which i have done btw)..copy the number..but guess what..as soon as I go back to the text..it doesnt allow me to paste it! Basic functionality problem there
4) Any body got a response to my number 4 above?
5) Yep thats what im trying to do
Thanks for your help..and appreciate if anybody has more suggestions for the above

1) Yep, I know you can put more than one number within that section, but lets say they have 2 mobile numbers (which many do these days to save money). Then if you put it within the home field you cant text it...?? Again anything that can be uploaded to improve this?
You can definately text the second, third, or whatever number in your phone book. Create your message and rather than starting to type the name of your contact into the 'To' field, click in the empty 'To' field to bring up the address book. if you select a contact with more than one phone number, a box will pop up asking you which number you want to use.
2) In terms of lists. On virtually every other fone..nokias, sony ericssons PDA phones, samsungs etc. You have the capability of making a list. i.e. if you are messaging the same group of people on a regular basis...e.g. for work you deal with a group of 10 contacts for a certain issue..you can select that list and it will come up with contacts in the "to" bit without selecting the contacts individually all the time..this is usually basic functionality in most phones to do this for texting and emailing..but surprised the Windows mobile doesnt have this. Its a function I have used a lot...so wondering if there is any program or something which can be uploaded to improve this?
You're right - it's a pretty common fuction and WM6 should have it. There may some commercial app available but I'm not aware of anything.
3) With the copy and paste function tried it..and didnt work..even if it did.. it is really impractical..imagine you are writing a text to someone..Hi.blah blah blah..btw the number of ... is...and then as most phones again have..which is really basic..there should be an insert number from phonebook..but instead you have to come out of the whole text..go to the phonebook (which i have done btw)..copy the number..but guess what..as soon as I go back to the text..it doesnt allow me to paste it! Basic functionality problem there
I normally try to get the phone number before starting the text! it's then so much easier to insert when you're writing your text. Again, it's a pity this fuctionality isn't built in.
4) When you slide out the keyboards, my appointments cant be seen on the screen (if held vertically you normally can, but when keyboard out you cant, well you can see the top of the text for this only) and you cant scroll down to see it neway but you should be able to see this only on the one page.
You mean the HTC home plugin takes up to much room? Yep, it does! But then you don't need to use it. Experiment with different home screen plugins from SPB software, such as SPB diary, SPB shell etc. You should be able to find something to suit you.
5) Speaker phone microphone doesnt work properly. People complain they cant hear me!
The speaker phone sucks on these phones and has since the first generation. Learn to not use it
5) Yep thats what im trying to do
The speakerphone sucks? Does it? I don't use it, but will have to test it now!
HTC
FrankyG

3) With the copy and paste function tried it..and didnt work..even if it did.. it is really impractical..imagine you are writing a text to someone..Hi.blah blah blah..btw the number of ... is...and then as most phones again have..which is really basic..there should be an insert number from phonebook..but instead you have to come out of the whole text..go to the phonebook (which i have done btw)..copy the number..but guess what..as soon as I go back to the text..it doesnt allow me to paste it! Basic functionality problem there
I agree its a little inconvenient, but if your a fast user you can easily tap the windows key then contacts then quickly locate the contact, copy the number and then paste it into the msg (by hitting start then messages or the message button on the phone itself).
# 4 You need some software like SPB Mobile Shell (search for the thread called post a picture of your today screen). Because there is no current way to decrease the size of the clock. You can disable the HTC Home plug in (clock and sms/phone/email notification icons) then the whole screen will be the bottom part, but you forego the cool weather/launcher/profiles/today plugin of HTC.
# 5 speaker phone like camera plain SUCKS!!!

voice calendar application

Hi all
Im looking for an app that will complement the calendar by allowing to record voice notes instead of text input when the calendar is open on "day" view.
when you hold down a specific time on the calendar, the voice recorder is activated and the Voice Note automatically gets recorded on the calendar date and time you are holding down, and gets added to your reminders/appointments with default settings and no more questions.
It would be a lot better obviously if it was translated to text first, but not necessary.
I was able to find "voice cal", very old and uninstallable on wm6.1 with .cf.net 3.5
and also "speerio voice organizer"... looks like a memory hog and i read it doesn't work right. Its also crowded with a million different things that are not useful.
I just want a simple interface to be able to use with one or two clicks or buttons in order to set up a calendar event while im driving or on the phone etc....
thanks

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Hi Spiro,
any luck on finding that app? Cos i've been looking for the same, tho i would prefer that when u push the "record" button, u get multiple choices regarding where to place the voice note, where "calendar" bein one of the first. Then u just had to place it into the day and time you would like it to be. Haven't found one yet, so i've started to write to different application developers suggesting such an app. I'm surprised that they haven't made one ages ago. In meantime, if you should come across one, pls let me know.
cheers

anyone???
Do I really have to take up programming and write my own app?

I was lookin around and saw this
handheld.softpedia.com/get/Business/Calendar/VoiceCalendars-52540.shtml
I think this is different than VoiceCal
The one I gave the link to, seems lke it could work. Only problem is that it doesnt use WM existing calendar.

I tried speerio voice reminder and it was horrible! I dont know what some people are thinking.
All I need is a simple plugin to show itself on the calendars context menu when I "long press" on dayview to say "new voice note" and when I click on it it should have a HUGE red record button and a stop button. When you hit the stop button the calendar would save that as an event with the default alarms on the date it was created
the only problem I see with that is that the heading of the event would not be very informative unless one typed the info, but im willing to live with that. Or maybe MSvoice command could help there with some text to speech engine!!! (im not holding my breath)
Im using an app called "thumpcal" right now but they dont have a "day view" and I have to set the time after I scedulle an event on a specific date, but its better than the built in calendar BECAUSE ITS SIMPLE!!!!!
I dont understand how am i supposed to use a program like "speerio" while im driving when it has 30 f...n buttons the size of a neutron on the screen in a grey on grey display?????????
Does anyone know what I have to learn in order to put a little program together to do what I want it to do?
PS I also found some other interesting programs like "freenotes" that I thought was a good idea but I would like to be able to initiate that from the "day view" on the calendar (right click on a time on the screen and have the choice of a voice note or a pen note) so that I dont have to key- in the time that I want the event to take place

ummmmmm.....the link that I posted does what you want.
1.Make folders by subject name
2.Click on a folder, it then brings up calendar
3.Click on a day of the month
4.There is a BIG RED RECORD BUTTON at bottom of screen
5.Record your note, it is then stored for that specific day
Is this not what you want? Granted it doesn't use your existing calendar but hey, something is better than nothing, right
VoiceCalendars
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I was just lookin around and found this app. I think it might be right up your alley. Very simple/minimal interface. Allows you to record a voice message up to 2 minutes and then you can set a date and time for it to play aloud automatically.
Voice Reminder: Download Cab
Heres the website I found it at
I hope either of these programs can help. I know how frustrating it is not to be able to find that perfect app!

asofiker said:
ummmmmm.....the link that I posted does what you want.
1.Make folders by subject name
2.Click on a folder, it then brings up calendar
3.Click on a day of the month
4.There is a BIG RED RECORD BUTTON at bottom of screen
5.Record your note, it is then stored for that specific day
Is this not what you want? Granted it doesn't use your existing calendar but hey, something is better than nothing, right
VoiceCalendars
Update*
I was just lookin around and found this app. I think it might be right up your alley. Very simple/minimal interface. Allows you to record a voice message up to 2 minutes and then you can set a date and time for it to play aloud automatically.
Voice Reminder: Download Cab
Heres the website I found it at
I hope either of these programs can help. I know how frustrating it is not to be able to find that perfect app!
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Hey asofiker
thanks for your reply
I have an HTC Kaiser phone
I tried both programs you suggested and had the same problems with both that other users seem to be experiencing
the "voice calendars" displays a "the control grid .....could not be created" error
and the other program from the XDA member gives me the "An error occoured on sub_app_start.
This device does not support display power on/off Continue?" error.
I appreciate your help and if I find anything that works in the future Ill be sure to post here
Thanks again!

Not exactly what you're looking for but an idea: Agenda Fusion with its Notes Organizer and Data Linking features. Also a good agenda with lots of views. http://www.developerone.com/agendafusion/index.htm

Pocket Informant 8 is the best Calendar and Contacts app available and I always install it to my wm devices. It has voice notes recording functionality and then some. Check it out. I have tried all the others at great expense (some provide trials) and this is by far the best one.
Regards,
MAC

I tried agenda fusion in the past and find that it falls in the same category as most of these organizer programs its simply overkill for a one handed hand held device with a 2 inch screen
Ill give pocket informant a try and post back
Thanks

pocket informant no good for this purpose either!

spiro said:
pocket informant no good for this purpose either!
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Which version of PI are you using?
Mine is version 8 and it does exactly as you require! It saves a voice note under Storage Card/Voices when you select Notes View>Menu>Recording

MACkjam said:
Which version of PI are you using?
Mine is version 8 and it does exactly as you require! It saves a voice note under Storage Card/Voices when you select Notes View>Menu>Recording
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dont remember version I already uninstalled it
Im was having a problem with the interface trying to do too much!
Im looking for large buttons and a simple interface like a variation/add on to "thumcal" or "vito audio notes" etc
thanks

Kaiser junkie

I love my Kaiser, I will not trade it in for a Fuze. I am however set back with questions unanswered. I'll enlighten you.....
1) I have been using an app called "Where is My Phone". I love this app. There is a certain feature I am quite curious about that acts as a macro. When you SMS the phone with a certain command as the text, it triggers a macro to work. This is very interesting to me. I am aware that there is a program running in the background to check for such a text request, but my question is, are there other programs out there that will let you run your own macros on such a text requests???
2) I am also running the Inesoft program on my phone. I absolutely love the dialer, however, once the dialer has been used and a call is placed, the default dialer pops up... very sad since I havn't been able to find a dialer skin that I like. (yes, I have searched everywhere and found them all) Is there a way to set the inesoft dialer as the default dialer on my Kaiser? This would be very useful, because I cant just tap and hold the "1" button on my inesoft dialer to activate retrieving my phones voicemail messages.
This forum is my lifeline to the outside world when it comes to my Phone and i thank you all in advance.

uhm as for your first question, I'm not too sure if I can answer it. I do use an app called mobliza that runs in the background. it's basically like an away message program for SMS. it also has a feature that allows it to carry on a conversation with people who text you. go to tiltmobility.com to find the download.
as for your second question, I don't think there is any way to make it your default dialer unless it's cooked into a ROM.

actually, my first question looks confusing... what i want to do is get my phone to perform actions when i sms it. if you look at "where is my phone", its an app that sends you the gps coords, with a google maps hyperlink of your cell phones location when you send it a certain text.
As for part 2, I guess Ill just cross my fingers and hope someone cooks up a rom. thats the best dialer skin ive seen. finger friendly, big, plain, simple.....

viol8tion said:
As for part 2, I guess Ill just cross my fingers and hope someone cooks up a rom. thats the best dialer skin ive seen. finger friendly, big, plain, simple.....
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I do not think xda allows roms with commercial software in the forums, as this would be considered warez, unless they just include the shareware version, which would be useless as it requires you to purchase after trial period. Maybe you can download a kitchen and integrate the software into your rom, shouldn't be that difficult.

You could provide the software to the chef of your favorite rom and ask him kindly to brew it in for you. As long as the software are fully available for download its no problem adding it to any rom. Reason why its not done are that people have to buy to fully take advantage of the software and no chef is going to force something like that on you. There has been payware on certain rom from some of the most known chef`s in here, but its very rare and if so its because the software been brand new or killing good.
The thought of brew this in case the device is stolen by someone are good. Cause if the thief are not an advance user chance of getting it back are good even after a hard reset

I used to use inesoft address book and if I can remember correctly, there is a setting where you can make the dialer and history the default.

viol8tion said:
I love my Kaiser, I will not trade it in for a Fuze. I am however set back with questions unanswered. I'll enlighten you.....
1) I have been using an app called "Where is My Phone". I love this app. There is a certain feature I am quite curious about that acts as a macro. When you SMS the phone with a certain command as the text, it triggers a macro to work. This is very interesting to me. I am aware that there is a program running in the background to check for such a text request, but my question is, are there other programs out there that will let you run your own macros on such a text requests???
2) I am also running the Inesoft program on my phone. I absolutely love the dialer, however, once the dialer has been used and a call is placed, the default dialer pops up... very sad since I havn't been able to find a dialer skin that I like. (yes, I have searched everywhere and found them all) Is there a way to set the inesoft dialer as the default dialer on my Kaiser? This would be very useful, because I cant just tap and hold the "1" button on my inesoft dialer to activate retrieving my phones voicemail messages.
This forum is my lifeline to the outside world when it comes to my Phone and i thank you all in advance.
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yup, i think i came across that program, where you text your mobile with predefined commands and when your cell picks it up it runs the application or script. One thing i forgot the name, but i think its freeware, if my poor memory serves me right. Damn, anyway it stays on your homescreen, just a small icon on the lower part.
The developers also programmed the location based application launcher based on what cell radio tower you are on.

[APP][BETA] gVo v0.6.0b - 09/02/09 (Google Voice Dialer) ALL RESOLUTIONS!

FAQ:
Question: Why do the CallBack and SMS buttons seem unresponsive at times?
Answer: Make sure you have 7,10, or 11 digits entered, also while gVo Online Features are loading in the background, CallBack and SMS buttons are disabled. They will be enabled upon loading.
If we don't disable them, then we can't guarantee that the number you selected will be pasted in the correct spot. This is a result of having to wait for google's responses to our actions. Sorry!
Question: Is WM6.5 supported?
Answer: I don't run wm 6.5, but it really depends on which rom you're using. Custom 6.5 roms that use the newer beta Internet Explorer browser do not work correctly with gVo because of the newer IE dlls.

gVo
So ever since the public invites started going out to google voice users, I've been looking for the perfect google voice dialer. Google has yet to release a windows mobile version for what ever reasons, and so I was on a mission to make my google voice life easier. I came across subpro's iDialer, which worked great but still wasn't as easy as I wanted it to be. Plus its integrated as a regular dialer too so it was a bit more complicated then I wanted. There is also OneDialer by m_drunk, but it wasn't exactly what I wanted either. I read about GVdialer but that one isn't free, so I didn't get a chance to try it. Anyways, so I spent two days (and nights) working on my own dialer. Finally, I have a workable application, so I thought I'd share it. Free of course.
*** You must have .NET3.5 installed ***
*** You must have Windows Mobile 6+ ***
*** Touch Screen Phones Only ***
MAY NOT WORK RIGHT WITH THE THE NEWER IE VERSIONS
Anyhow, here's what it is:
Current: v0.6.0
Select contact and dials their Number (Mobile)
Enter in a non-contact number and dials
Supports ALL Resolutions (QVGA,VGA,WVGA) new!
No Skin Support (since this is meant to be a quick and easy app, no need to worry if it looks good)
Landscape support new!
Google Online Functions such as SMS/CallBack/Inbox/Voicemail
Support for International Calling
ChangeLog:
v0.1 - v0.2
added online feature
changed graphics / layout
v0.2 - v0.2.1
Made change to dialing pauses In the hopes of speeding it up more. Doubt it changed anything though. (so you don't really need to update to this version)
v0.2.1 - v0.3.0
Made online features a bit faster. (but realize that if you have the gVo online features enabled, it will try to connect to google on start up. If you don't want that, then disable it in the config)
Added a red button to select which number to use from your contact. (M = Mobile, H = Home, W = Business/Work)
v0.3.0 - v0.3.1
Changed username length up to 50
passwords are up to 25
v0.3.1 - v0.4
Removed Graphics (so we don't have to worry about skinning and resolutions)
Now supports ALL resolutions!
Now supports Landscape!
v0.4 - v0.4.1
Added dedicated Online/Dial buttons (Online Button only visible with online feature enabled in config)
Google Number can now be 11 digits
Changed config page's layout to be landscape friendly
v0.4.1 - v0.5.0
Changed dedicated "Online" button to dedicated "SMS"
Added "CallBack" Checkbox in config (for those who want a dedicated callback button)
Made the graphics look better (goodbye google colors! Hello Black, Seems everyone likes black)
Disabled SMS and CallBack buttons while online features loading (If we don't disable them, I can't guarentee numbers pasted in the right box)
v0.5.0 - v0.5.1
Changed dialing requirement of 7 or 10 or 11 digits to only 7 digits or more (since international dialing can vary in how many digits total)
*** if you don't dial internationally, you don't need to update to 0.5.1 ***
v0.5.1 - v0.6.0
Added better support for Google international calling
(added checkbox that enables support for international calling, everytime you dial you will get a message box asking if it's an international call or not. I know it's kind of a hassle but it's the only way to really support international calling. If you never make international calls, do not enable international calling and you will never see the message box)
*** INTERNATIONAL CALLING IS NOT FREE, YOU MUST HAVE GOOGLE VOICE CREDIT ***
Voice Features:
Dial - gVo dials your google number, enters your pin number (if you have one) then dials the person you want to call (from manual dial or contacts list). Basically, it does what you can do by yourself, but in an automated way. Also, this method allows your google number to show up to the person you're calling.
Online Features:
SMS - Logs you into google's site, and pastes in the number you dialed or selected from contacts. You should be tabbed into the text field ready to text!
CallBack - Logs you into google's site, and pastes in the number you dialed or selected from contacts, then automatically clicks call. After that, you may have to choose which callback number, but if you only have one callback number, it should only ask you once, then be automatic from then on.
Both Online features will also let you check your voicemail, and do other things to/with your google voice account.
(DONT FORGET, ONLINE FEATURES USE DATA/INTERNET! SO DONT ENABLE IT IF YOU DONT HAVE A DATA PLAN!)
Anyhow visit google's website for more info on Google Voice.
And oh yeah, I do not take any responsibility for any harm this application does to you whether it be mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, etc. Also, I am in no way affiliated with Google, so all logos and whatever belong to them. I did this in my spare time, with the intention to share with everyone else in this great XDA community. **Also realize that I'm not trying to make the ultimate best google voice application with bells and whistles, I just want to make it easy and simple to use.**
Enough of my blabbering and here is the cab, enjoy!

Tips:
If you enable gVo Online = Google Voice Callback, SMS, Account Settings, VoiceMail (uses default internet connection)
If you disable gVo Online = Google Voice Call (Calling Card Method)
For gVo Calling Card method, you can either dial the number or get a number from the contacts list.
For gVo Online, you can also dial the number or get a contact's number, then connect to gVo Online which defaults to the SMS feature. If you need the number you selected, its in the system clipboard, so just paste it.

nice.. i want to be able to use this with wifi if possible... without using the phone method. keep up the good work bro

good going...look forward to added features

awesome, the more the merrier hopefully I like your implementation.
AssassinsLament said:
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keep in mind that with cdma phones a call will go to voicemail if the phone is connected with (active?) 1x data (EVDO/3g connections will pause for calls)
I'm not sure if it's possible to send the call back request and terminate the connection fast enough, but I'm willing to test if you find a way to try.
edit; further test proved my suspicion that you can be connected with 1x, but no data sessions can be active. there is a registry entry to control this (evdo or 1x)
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"SuspendResume"

Works great on my HTC Touch Pro Please please add the SMS please Please

shaggylive said:
awesome, the more the merrier hopefully I like your implementation.
keep in mind that with cdma phones a call will go to voicemail if the phone is connected with (active?) 1x data (EVDO/3g connections will pause for calls)
I'm not sure if it's possible to send the call back request and terminate the connection fast enough, but I'm willing to test if you find a way to try.
edit; further test proved my suspicion that you can be connected with 1x, but no data sessions can be active. there is a registry entry to control this (evdo or 1x)
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"SuspendResume"
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Ok, I added an "online" feature, and since I don't have a cdma phone, let me know what/how it does. Like you said, we may have to do a quick data termination to receive the call. Thanks!

Doesnt work for me.. im running Energy Rom 6.5 on TP and everytime I click connect it just crashes.

brownhornet said:
Doesnt work for me.. im running Energy Rom 6.5 on TP and everytime I click connect it just crashes.
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Do you have .NET compact 3.5 installed? What error messages do you get?

AssassinsLament said:
Do you have .NET compact 3.5 installed? What error messages do you get?
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I think 3.5 was included in the rom... let me check. But when it crashes there is no message... I click connect and the app just closes.

brownhornet said:
I think 3.5 was included in the rom... let me check. But when it crashes there is no message... I click connect and the app just closes.
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Hmm.. I did a hard reset and tested it on my device, and all is working fine. Make sure you entered your google username and password and number/pin correctly. I'm not sure what the issue is if there isn't an error code or I can't reproduce it. Hopefully if someone has the same issue, we can figure out what it is.

i have same problem as brownhornet. im on energy rom 6.5 on touch diamond. this looks sweet by the way. thanks for doing this

stuckonashelf said:
i have same problem as brownhornet. im on energy rom 6.5 on touch diamond. this looks sweet by the way. thanks for doing this
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Can you describe to me how to recreate this issue? Are you on GSM? I'd like to get to the bottom of it. Thanks!

interesting
I am also on energy rom on a Touch Pro, Fuze to be exact. I am running the latest build as of this writing, which would be the august 11th 09 build. I have no problems at all...well the online mode pretty much blows(Onedialer isn't much better here either), takes FOREVER to load the GV page, the calling card method works great, however perhaps you have to many pauses here and there cause the GV Dialer uses the same method but zips through a little faster.
However I like your implementation better as the GV dialer asks which service to use everytime you make a call, whereas yours can be assigned as a softkey and used only when needed. I was using iDialer in the same fashion however, in order to call from a contact you needed to install iContact in addition, whereas yours uses the existing windows list. Cool.
If you could speed up the calling card method(try the GVdialer trial and see for yourself) and mabye implement the sms in the same way or better as one dialer, then yours would be byfar the best in my opinion. Keep up the good work.

brycestejskal said:
I am also on energy rom on a Touch Pro, Fuze to be exact. I am running the latest build as of this writing, which would be the august 11th 09 build. I have no problems at all...well the online mode pretty much blows(Onedialer isn't much better here either), takes FOREVER to load the GV page, the calling card method works great, however perhaps you have to many pauses here and there cause the GV Dialer uses the same method but zips through a little faster.
However I like your implementation better as the GV dialer asks which service to use everytime you make a call, whereas yours can be assigned as a softkey and used only when needed. I was using iDialer in the same fashion however, in order to call from a contact you needed to install iContact in addition, whereas yours uses the existing windows list. Cool.
If you could speed up the calling card method(try the GVdialer trial and see for yourself) and mabye implement the sms in the same way or better as one dialer, then yours would be byfar the best in my opinion. Keep up the good work.
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Hey, thanks a lot for the comment. This definately will help me better understand how to improve it. Yeah, I haven't tried GVdialer yet so I'll have to find time and try it out, maybe I can impliment a similar sms solution. I just wanted an easy way for people to connect to their google accounts. Basically as an all-in-one online feature. I'll see what I can do! Thanks again!

If I use it without the internet it works fine... but as soon as I click the checkbox... I click connect a blank page comes up... then after a few seconds the program just closes.

brycestejskal said:
If you could speed up the calling card method(try the GVdialer trial and see for yourself) and mabye implement the sms in the same way or better as one dialer, then yours would be byfar the best in my opinion. Keep up the good work.
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Ok, so I tested both GVdialer and OneDialer, and they are basically using the same method I am.
About the calling card method, you have to wait for google's prompts and then enter the your selection. So there isn't a real way to speed it up much more than it is already because I'm using the most minimum pauses I can. In fact, as soon as you hit dial, my application sends the number string with pauses included to the built in dialer, then my application exits. So my application actually has nothing to do with the dialing after you hit the dial button. (You can listen in after it connects to google and hear it dial against google's prompts) The only way to really optimize the speed is to make a real standalone dialer and time the google prompts with your selection, but even then, you'll only save a second or two.
About the SMS features, because google doesn't have a real api yet, we have to improvise, and so what we're essentially doing is logging into google's website first to get credentials then we can send the text. The only difference between onedialer and mine is that onedialer has a built in SMS form, which is what I had originally too but I thought it would just be better to just use an all in one solution (the google site itself). Because no matter what, you'll always have to log into the site to get the credentials first, hence the long wait.
Once google provides us with a real api, we'll be able to provide faster solutions.
Ok, anyhow, that was a semi technical explanation, sorry if it was confusing.

brownhornet said:
If I use it without the internet it works fine... but as soon as I click the checkbox... I click connect a blank page comes up... then after a few seconds the program just closes.
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Ok, it's most likely a connection problem then. Are you connected to the internet? My application "should" try to connect you if you're not already connected but maybe something in your settings isn't allowing it to connect. Try connecting to the internet first(wifi or data plan), make sure you can browse the internet first, then run the gVo application and see if that makes a difference.
When you hit the "Google Online" button, all it does is connect to google's website. If it comes back as a plain page, then it's just not reaching google's site. So I assume its more of a connection problem.

Would this work on a Axim x51v just to control GV, like you can from the web site?

Easy Dial – Much more than your regular dialer and call log app.

Hi Friends, We have just published our first android application (To replace default dialer and call log) in market and looking forward to add several more features in coming few days. I would like to invite beta testers and other enthusiasts to test the application on various android phones. Any feedback and suggestions from the experts and users here will be greatly appreciated.
Easy Dial is an advanced dialer and call logging application for Android based phones. The application tries to overcome the usability problems in the default applications provided by Android for this purpose. It offers all of the standard features in default dialer & call log with much more in a user friendly and efficient way.
Dialer Features
1) T9 Search from the standard number pad.
2) Fast search without any lagging between the dialing actions.
3) Check notes associated with contacts on the same screen
4) Ability to dial multiple numbers associated with contacts from the same screen (Use horizontal swipe or scroll track ball to switch through numbers)
5) SMS or Email a contact directly from the dialer screen
6) View contact cards or call history directly from the dialer screen.
7) Customizable options for fonts, search criteria, button actions and so on
Call Log Features
1) Advanced call log with grouping. No more multiple instances of the same record in call log.
2) No maximum limit for number of entries in call log.
3) View complete history of a log entry with summary of different call types.
4) Integrated Search feature in call log. No need to scroll through the long list of call records to find a desired entry.
5) Delete single or all instances of a record from the call log.
6) Ability to delete all entries prior to a certain record.
Coming Soon
1) Integrate Favorites
2) From the dialer screen, ability to search last dialed numbers along with contact search. Similar to HTC Smart Dialer.
3) Higher degree of customization.
4) Improved skin with more appealing UI
5) When in call log, ability to mark certain records as protected so that delete action does not remove those records.
6) Long press on 1 to dial the voicemail.
7) Add full fledged tab for contacts which will overcome the default contacts issues. Like missing numbers beneath the names.
Download
Android Market Place
Description
Easy Dial will let you dial a contact or individual number with the ease of T9 search on your regular number based keypad. Application can get integrated with the default call button and pressing the button then after will directly open the Easy Dial window. To dial a number, just start typing the first few letters of the contact name and it will search for the matching records in the contacts database. If no record is found, it will let you dial the individual number from the same window. The notes associated with individual contacts are also displayed on the same screen.
Application also allows the users to create text messages or emails directly from the dialer screen. Thus eliminating the extra steps to open the respective application, choose the contact and so on.
It maintains its own call log which overcomes various usability issues in the default call log application. A significant improvement is call grouping. The default call log creates a new entry for each and every call, be it from the same number. Like if you dialed 123 for 100 times, it will appear in call log for 100 times. Easy Dial fixes this problem by offering a call grouping mechanism. Here, each number will appear only once in call log and then clicking on the entry will open the history of the calls for the selected numbers. Apart from this, it also offers a summary of total calls with duration (in, out and missed) on the same screen. An advanced search mechanism is also provided apart from standard filters for incoming, outgoing and missed calls.

Would like to help but I can't find the app in market place? Is it available to Canada? Would you like to also post a link to your apk file so people can install it manually as well?

search "easydial"

can't find it in Market...
edit: got it http://de.androlib.com/android.application.and-dev-isol-qwjp.aspx
Could you add contact pics? i like this app!

great app thank you very much, from what i see just now , its much better than the OEM dialer. One remark and its not a huge thing , can you see if you could improve the delay while pressing the numbers , they are a bit laggy, but it may be just me. Thanks again

citydog5 said:
Would like to help but I can't find the app in market place? Is it available to Canada? Would you like to also post a link to your apk file so people can install it manually as well?
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You can install it from http://isol.co.in/ed/
Some screen captures and features are also provided there. Looking forward to your feedback
Thanks

pk198105 said:
can you see if you could improve the delay while pressing the numbers , they are a bit laggy, but it may be just me. Thanks again
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Thanks, we are working on the speed and many more features. Will keep this thread updated. If you find any other problems, please do let me know. BTW, which device are you using? and if its a custom firmware?

Love the call log, dislike the dialer. Any chance you could make the dialer larger and make the contact scroll a pull down tab like the launcher?

Hi, could you make it search by numbers as well? Also, a search by initials would be awesome (like HTC's). An example would be:
John Doe
And I'm able to search by entering "5" and then "3" (J, D). Thanks!

innerspace said:
Love the call log, dislike the dialer. Any chance you could make the dialer larger and make the contact scroll a pull down tab like the launcher?
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We are working on the new theme to improve the user experience as well as the looks of the application. Our fellow forum member "MOONSSPOON" is working on this and has come up with some excellent ideas. I think that will somehow solve the issues with it.
If you could please give some more feedback regarding the dislike, we will make sure to fix those things.
For the pull down tab, that is some thing we have stored for phase 3 or 4, but that will be there for sure. As for now, working on other important features.
Thanks.

Wysie said:
Hi, could you make it search by numbers as well? Also, a search by initials would be awesome (like HTC's). An example would be:
John Doe
And I'm able to search by entering "5" and then "3" (J, D). Thanks!
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Yep, HTC Smart dialer functionality is in under development and we are close to finish that. However, for now it won't be for initials. This is to search the unknown numbers in call logs. Like when you press 5 and 3, it will search for all contacts with the combinations of "JKL" and "DEF" as well as all numbers in call log with 53 in it.
So stay tuned

maheepgupta said:
Thanks, we are working on the speed and many more features. Will keep this thread updated. If you find any other problems, please do let me know. BTW, which device are you using? and if its a custom firmware?
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Im using an HTC Dream with CyanogenMOD 4.0.2 no APPS2SD yet. Like I said its a great dialer and logger.

This is going to be a great application guys. Stay tuned!

Screenshots?

My issue with the dialer: Numbers are a bit on the small side, would prefer them to be about 2/3 of the screen... scrolling window for contacts is too. Basically, it just seems like there is too much interface crammed into one screen. I think the pull tab for contacts will be a big help. I'd also like it if when I dial a number the numbers are displayed immediately (instead of "sorting" through contacts first) so If I accidentally hit a wrong digit I know immediately instead of having to wait for the numbers to display after a no-match on contacts sort.
I look forward to the next version with new artwork, the guys who are helping out do great work and I'm sure things will change for the better. All in all I'm liking the app, GREAT JOB!

This is very well put together, I cant wait to see what you guys do for the update. No lag at all with it. Good Job Guys!

maheepgupta said:
Yep, HTC Smart dialer functionality is in under development and we are close to finish that. However, for now it won't be for initials. This is to search the unknown numbers in call logs. Like when you press 5 and 3, it will search for all contacts with the combinations of "JKL" and "DEF" as well as all numbers in call log with 53 in it.
So stay tuned
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Thanks for the reply! Are you all planning to add the option of displaying contact pictures?

Draxter said:
Screenshots?
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The current dialer screenshots and features can be checked at www.isol.co.in/ed
We are working on the new theme and hope to show you some thing in coming few days.

maheepgupta said:
The current dialer screenshots and features can be checked at www.isol.co.in/ed
We are working on the new theme and hope to show you some thing in coming few days.
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Link down.

innerspace said:
My issue with the dialer: Numbers are a bit on the small side, would prefer them to be about 2/3 of the screen... scrolling window for contacts is too. Basically, it just seems like there is too much interface crammed into one screen. I think the pull tab for contacts will be a big help. I'd also like it if when I dial a number the numbers are displayed immediately (instead of "sorting" through contacts first) so If I accidentally hit a wrong digit I know immediately instead of having to wait for the numbers to display after a no-match on contacts sort.
I look forward to the next version with new artwork, the guys who are helping out do great work and I'm sure things will change for the better. All in all I'm liking the app, GREAT JOB!
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I agree on the too much info crammed in one screen but like MOONSSPOON mentioned in one of his messages "Its a fun battle finding the perfect balance between fitting the most information possible on the screen and making sure its not a pain to use" So let us see what we can come up with in next version with improved UI.
The idea to show a number immediately sounds good and we will work on it. As for the pull tab in list, that is definitely in the plans but on low priority for now. As for now, I feel there are other features we need so working towards it step by step will be best way out.
Thanks again for your suggestions and we will try our best to keep it up to your highest expectations.