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IS apps2sd REALLY required for SGS?

Hi guys & gals.
I am a huge user of apps. At any given moment my app count varies from 140 to 180. Trying out, leaving an app for week, replacing it, deleting some all that.
Still, out of the space available for me to install apps, I am barely using 380 mb of space. More than 1 gb still at my disposal.
Do we really need programs & features like apps2sd on our coveted SGS? Can somebody really think of totally disabling this feature from SGS?
This isn't a topic for the dev section, but hubly asked here because it requires a dev to do it.
Please post your app count & space count.

Not at all

My bad, phone reports 545MB/1.85GB for Program. 192 apps installed as of now.

No I move everything that installs to my sd back to internal memory, eg angry birds
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The reason I ask this is its a pain in the A*S to answer every time an app asks me if it should be moved to the sdcard.Can we just tell ALL the APPS, this SGS, & DONT ASK.

ragin said:
The reason I ask this is its a pain in the A*S to answer every time an app asks me if it should be moved to the sdcard.Can we just tell ALL the APPS, this SGS, & DONT ASK.
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i see
non of my app has asked for this offer

yaocheng said:
i see
non of my app has asked for this offer
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Are you on 2.1 or 2.2?

ragin said:
Are you on 2.1 or 2.2?
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I was on 2.1 and now on 2.2. No issue for both.

I need it I guess, cause mine already reached 1.45gb/185gb. What the heck. I have 220 apps only. Gameloft games' files are not using this partition right?

freakfingers12 said:
I need it I guess, cause mine already reached 1.45gb/185gb. What the heck. I have 220 apps only. Gameloft games' files are not using this partition right?
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YOU need apps2sd. Search the market.

Nope they are eating about 400 MB on my internal sd (u find them in the gameloft folder on the root of ur sd)
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freakfingers12 said:
I need it I guess, cause mine already reached 1.45gb/185gb. What the heck. I have 220 apps only. Gameloft games' files are not using this partition right?
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"Only". Rofl.
Not using OCLF are you? That will show the size of your ext2 partition, not true disk use by apps.
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Angry birds lag

Does anyone know a way to end the angry birds lag. Every time I play I get constant lag?
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When I used to play angry birds a lot, I would do:
1) Overclock the phone - this really helps a lot in terms of eliminating lag.
2) Turn off my data and wifi - this is so that there are no ads or banners while I'm playing (the ads really slow you down)
I also noticed that sometimes when I start a level (the bigger levels), if I wait a couple of seconds for it to load completely, the game runs a lot smoother.

popupstoppa said:
When I used to play angry birds a lot, I would do:
1) Overclock the phone - this really helps a lot in terms of eliminating lag.
2) Turn off my data and wifi - this is so that there are no ads or banners while I'm playing (the ads really slow you down)
I also noticed that sometimes when I start a level (the bigger levels), if I wait a couple of seconds for it to load completely, the game runs a lot smoother.
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Thanks will try
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Wow it actually works absolutely no lag thanks
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Hi there... What does overlocking the phone mean?
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It means making the phone faster than it comes in the box. It makes it faster but ur phone may not last as long in battery and in total life
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And how do u do that?
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U have to flash a custom kernal and download a app called setcpu, unless ur on cm7 that comes with some custom settings for that
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That's basically how I fixed the lag also. The new versions also come with a toggle to turn the background off (which helps tremendously imo albeit looking ugly).
Currently, the only thing that bugs me in Angry Birds for the Aria is that my (maybe others' ?) screen is extremely sensitive. Just holding my finger still on the screen makes the sling shake, shiver, stutter, wiggle, etc. Makes it hard to do consistent shots.

jeebuz said:
That's basically how I fixed the lag also. The new versions also come with a toggle to turn the background off (which helps tremendously imo albeit looking ugly).
Currently, the only thing that bugs me in Angry Birds for the Aria is that my (maybe others' ?) screen is extremely sensitive. Just holding my finger still on the screen makes the sling shake, shiver, stutter, wiggle, etc. Makes it hard to do consistent shots.
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IRT the sensitive screen, yes. same thing here and it's annoying as hell lol...

My experience has been that both Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja lag on the stock ROM. Once I switched to CM7, even though I didn't overclock (I used CM7's CPU manager to set max 600 Mhz, min 245 Mhz) there was no more lag in either game. CM7 will also get you awesome battery life when wifi is off.

Javi97100 said:
Wow it actually works absolutely no lag thanks
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Which fix did it? I get lag as well on AB.

DanGeorges said:
Which fix did it? I get lag as well on AB.
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Overclock to 806 and turning off mobile data
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Get the Amazon App store version. I downloaded the Angry Birds Rio. No ads and it's sooo smooth. I'm overclocking at 806mhz but I think the ads slow it down. I'd imagine the ad free version of the original would be smooth too. Btw Rio is for free right now. Probably only 8 hours left?
Edit never mind. Only a little more than an hour left. Get it fast or you gotta pay
http://www.amazon.com/Rovio-Mobile-Angry-Birds-Rio/dp/B004SBS8LA/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i

I got root tools <I think it was $2> and it has a feature to block MOST apps and also lots more it probably became one of my favorite apps after I bought it
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Just get DroidWall...
Instead of turning off data, you could just install DroidWall and block Angry Birds from using wifi or mobile data. That gets rid of the ads, and seems to work. I believe the app needs root to function.
I'm also running CM7 latest nightly and drowningchild SIO kernel OC'd over stock 600MHz.

yollasho said:
Instead of turning off data, you could just install DroidWall and block Angry Birds from using wifi or mobile data. That gets rid of the ads, and seems to work.
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This is what I did and it works. No ads. The way it should be.

Or u could just pay a dollar for the ad free one on amazon app store
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Javi97100 said:
Or u could just pay a dollar for the ad free one on amazon app store
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Didn't even realize they had a paid version.
CM7 Aria

yollasho said:
Didn't even realize they had a paid version.
CM7 Aria
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Yea but its not on the Android market yet, I don't know y
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[Q] Someone Help Please....

after finished download n install need for speed shift n hot pursuit my x8 stun at EA logo at first launch...
some1 tell me y???

Because you didn't download it from the play store ....you downloaded it illegally....soo wait till tommorow and its not gonna open

maybe you don't have enough free RAM or are not overclocked. OC it and use SWAP if you're on a custom kernel. if it still doesn't work, try chainfire3d and some plugin (i don't know which one exactly).

No dude that's bullish** ,it ain't related to ram and that stuff

Dude I tried GTA III on a locked bootloader; it didn't work. Same thing that happened to OP.
On an unlocked bootloader with SWAP, it even got to the animations, and then quit itself.
However that being said, I am not an expert in the apps and games section and may be wrong. And I just realised that the first letters of the first three lines of my post spell D'oh.

No,need for speed shift runs smooth on our phone.
Try to redownload the games from another site,or buy them
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Because you have not free ram and you can play these games because heir graphics are super
If i helped you hit thanks button
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NikosGREECE said:
Because you have not free ram and you can play these games because heir graphics are super
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Need for speed(those that the op want) grathics are not super and our phones are fine to play them
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I was having the same problem. X8's are Armv6.
Cheers,
Dr.Onion
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there is no problem of X8 having ARMv6 or that he downloads a warez... just redownload the file and before install turn to air plane mode then launch the game and exit.. turn air plane mode off ...work done....
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No dude that's bullish** ,it ain't related to ram and that stuff
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stop spamming in X8 forums if you dont know how to solve the problem.. and stopping messing with people.. you were arguing with a kernel developer so he knows better than you right? and dont use slang .. it is against rules..words like bulls***//there is nothing like if it is no downloaded from market it wont work... i download app from other site..may or maynot be free... ..they work...

why all 4.1 in facebook app will lag ??

why all 4.1 in facebook app need take a long time to open it

vuiseng said:
why all 4.1 in facebook app need take a long time to open it
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Facebook app is too heavy it's a FAIL...
X8 has very less RAM on 4.1
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use a browser to use facebook. i personally don't like the app because it seems a bit heavy for our device. like the peron above me said, jb+x8=not a lot of available ram.
cAs

I can recommend you friendcaster. It is much more lighter, faster and still can sync your contacts. Facebook is to heavy - I'm not using it even on 2.3

Put facebook apk in the rom zip before installing..
Facebook running from /system/app is fast.

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Put facebook apk in the rom zip before installing..
Facebook running from /system/app is fast.
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so i assume this goes for most apk's? why though? i honestly don't know.
cAs

It will consume system partition then...
Mine is always full. XD
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Gogeta said:
It will consume system partition then...
Mine is always full. XD
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system memory, yes. but won't it consume the same amount of ram?
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I always strip roms of the unneeded stuff so I have plenty of space.
Eg: My phone only has one ringtone / alert tone.
I remove the default launcher, themes and useless apps.
When I put in facebook I stil have loads of space for other apps in system.
I put all apps that require root access in /system/app (root explorer, titanium backup, setcpu,
Also put some big games that lag if installed to sdcard.
Worth playing about with to get a perfectly running system.
Another example - I can play Jetpack Joyride with music on and it never lags or stutters. Some of my friends can't play the game at all.
Try it yourself - Just remove what you want to from the rom zip and replace at will.
Just don't exceed the size of he original rom zip.

Update fb app to latest, move to system partition & create odex file.
Then wipe dalvik & you should be fine
This is Jay-z-s

iks8 said:
I can recommend you friendcaster. It is much more lighter, faster and still can sync your contacts. Facebook is to heavy - I'm not using it even on 2.3
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i lazy to use friendcaster...........it pic out too slow

facebook.app is very slow on 4.0 and 4.1 ROM that requires much RAM free, the xperia x8 in the ROM 4.0 and 4.1 do not leave much free RAM as gingerbread
Sorry my bad english
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Doko8819 said:
facebook.app is very slow on 4.0 and 4.1 ROM that requires much RAM free, the xperia x8 in the ROM 4.0 and 4.1 do not leave much free RAM as gingerbread
Sorry my bad english
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so.......if i want use facebook how ??

vuiseng said:
so.......if i want use facebook how ??
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U have 3 options
1. Use gingerbread
2. Use any other app
3. Move it to system ​Sent from my X8 using xda app-developers app

Try using boat browser, facebook here very fast, can be found in play store, free ...
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vuiseng said:
so.......if i want use facebook how ??
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Attempt to free ram and not install many app installed, so Facebook app run faster

R: why all 4.1 in facebook app will lag ??
Fast for facebook
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ElmirBuljubasic said:
Fast for facebook
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what fast for facebook?

vuiseng said:
what fast for facebook?
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It's an app on Google play....
It's really fast...
I recommend it too
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Gogeta said:
It's an app on Google play....
It's really fast...
I recommend it too
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i put the facebook at system .............it also has some lag.........but good then before

[Q] Cant do an actual /real Multitask

I am using Xperia SP (Indian version) C5302 Build No. 12.0.A.1.1211 Didnt update so far.
My problem is that the multitask feature is kinda like the old iPhones. When i switch apps, the previous app is terminated or loads from beginning.
For example.
I was surfing facebook from Chrome browser. I received a text. I checked my txt, replied, and when i switched back to Chrome browser the webpage started loading afresh. Is ONE webpage of Facebook too much for the "last year flagship defeater"???
While playing games,like Little Empire (online game) i was referring to online guide. So i switched to Chrome browser to see the instructions on how to defeat a boss stage. When i switched back to Little Empire the app booted from beginning. I mean wtf!! How am i supposed to refer to guides if the moment i minimize the game it switches off.
The phone has 1 GB RAM. What is the point of multitasking when apps dont really multitask. The moment u minimise its gone.
Now this doesnt happen all the time.
When i play Need For Speed Most Wanted, a game which is pretty demanding, it never closes. Even after i switch back to this game after texting , it resumes from pause menu.
Is there a way to make my phone multitask?

Some games don't work well with multitask, such as that random game you posted. Chrome is known to be ram intensive, and probably the only browser that causes launcher redraw. Use firefox instead.
If you don't like your phone, get something else...

I'm sorry bro but there's no way. The. Fact is that not our phone but android doesn't do full multitasking. Android keeps a program in memory only if the program demands it to. But even then it closes the program if another resource hogging program is loaded.
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I was just wondering if converting a app into a System App might help. (And restart the phone)
For a game it is not very useful because it will be loaded at boot but for a Launcher it might help
that a third party launcher is less often redrawn. I think Android will kill non system apps first so the Launcher might stay in your ram longer.
Please correct me if I'm completely mistaken

In the free RAM 200M can not be used because the Sony locked
So always because of insufficient RAM to kill other processes
The pre allocated ram is used by debug file system, logger, camera pmem etc you can't change it unless you have custom kernel
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Is there a way to have more RAM ? As in stop or disale certain background apps as we do in Windows on Pc. Like a parmanent thing..
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mikael_schiffer said:
Is there a way to have more RAM ? As in stop or disale certain background apps as we do in Windows on Pc. Like a parmanent thing..
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Use "Greenify" for stop selected user app to running in background (facebook, maps...) and "Autokiller Memory Optimizer" to change minfree value (lmk). So instead to kill apps when your RAM goes under 200Mo, you can change the value to 50Mo. It's a great tool !
ROOT needed for these 2 apps

So what is the total and the free ram? By default, how much free ram is available?
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Marsou77 said:
Use "Greenify" for stop selected user app to running in background (facebook, maps...) and "Autokiller Memory Optimizer" to change minfree value (lmk). So instead to kill apps when your RAM goes under 200Mo, you can change the value to 50Mo. It's a great tool !
ROOT needed for these 2 apps
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which
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某龙兄 said:
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Use "Moderate" or "System Default".
In fact "System Default" is stock LMK of Android, not stock LMK of your phone.

Marsou77 said:
Use "Moderate" or "System Default".
In fact "System Default" is stock LMK of Android, not stock LMK of your phone.
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Gonna try it and report later. Thanks

lanluckez said:
Gonna try it and report later. Thanks
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Tried it but didn't worked. It delays a little the closing but the app closing comes anyway.

Maybe 1 GB isn't really enough. Sad that ZR won't be sold in SG,

Oriserzz said:
Maybe 1 GB isn't really enough. Sad that ZR won't be sold in SG,
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OFF TOPIC: Are you from Singapore?
ON TOPIC: Maybe you can try using a Linux swap partition. I never got one to work, so I dunno if it helps. But you can always try
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sonyxperiaplayer said:
OFF TOPIC: Are you from Singapore?
ON TOPIC: Maybe you can try using a Linux swap partition. I never got one to work, so I dunno if it helps. But you can always try
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X.x isn't it obvious there is Singapore word under my forum id?

Once I had the same problem with Galaxy S3 too, but I was rooted it installed busybox PRO and RAM Manager PRO, and in RAM manager I choosed hard multtiasking, and voila no more problems with redraws, and I even tried to keep opened NFS Most Wanted, and to open some more apps, and I found everything what I left,so 1GB isn't too little, it's Android memory management problem I think.
And also delete bloatware,because some sh*t is memory hungry and can cause this problem too

Simonna said:
Once I had the same problem with Galaxy S3 too, but I was rooted it installed busybox PRO and RAM Manager PRO, and in RAM manager I choosed hard multtiasking, and voila no more problems with redraws, and I even tried to keep opened NFS Most Wanted, and to open some more apps, and I found everything what I left,so 1GB isn't too little, it's Android memory management problem I think.
And also delete bloatware,because some sh*t is memory hungry and can cause this problem too
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Man, have u tried enabling Swap? If you have, is there any significant improvement in performance? There's a caution in the software that Swap will make my SD card degrade. I'm so confused with this

Qdezi said:
Man, have u tried enabling Swap? If you have, is there any significant improvement in performance? There's a caution in the software that Swap will make my SD card degrade. I'm so confused with this
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I don't have SD card so I don't know