I know people have made threads about the droid 4 before but this is me pondering with myself when im bored. Do u guys realize that pretty much the only major significant differences between the d3 and d4 is the fact that the d4 has about 500 more mb ram than d3 and it runs at 1.2 GHz and ours run at 1.0... welll i was thinking... we have overclock now so there goes that difference. Plus as overclock progresses and as time goes by i feel like we could hit as high as 1.5 safely. So pretty much the only major difference is the ram butt whooocaress? Like not to brag about our phones but Once were unlocked (which i feel like wont be much longer) our phone literally will be superior to any other android phone. What do you guys have to say (;
P.s. i could be missing specs but i feel like those 2 are the major ones.
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You forgot the LTE radio.
You also get ICS and Webtop support iirc
4g lte is major...
Will the Droid 4 be a Global phone again?
Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
What about the screen?
Another problem is that D4's LTE is only good for Verizon.
DYP, screen seems to be the same as D3's. Screenshots clearly showed pentile matrix and specs say TFT - so it must be the same crappy screen as D3.
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i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
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Yeah i agree its faster but it pretty much is an upgraded 3g like it not always works. It sometimes drops. Data bills increase. Idk man i just dont really care for it. And yeah battery life decreases tremendously but once people are able to flash stuff for it it will improve. I feel like 4g has alot of improvement to do not gonna lie
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cant lie about lots of that. 4g is a great technology, its the carriers that arent using it to its full potential. If you look at the actual 4g capable speeds and the speeds the carriers are letting us have, you will be even more disappointed lol.
The battery sucking isses will hopefully be obsolete once carriers get more heavily engaged in research using fuel cells.
Everyone says the Droid 4 is what the Droid 3 should have been.
For my part, yeah, it kind of gets on my nerves, but not too much. 1G of RAM would be nice, but I rarely run out with 512MB. I don't stream multimedia, so 3g is fast enough for me.
And the price was nice, $150 with a data plan. So I have no complaints.
As things stand now, the Droid 4 will probably be my next phone in a year or or so.
jarzy00 said:
I know people have made threads about the droid 4 before but this is me pondering with myself when im bored. Do u guys realize that pretty much the only major significant differences between the d3 and d4 is the fact that the d4 has about 500 more mb ram than d3 and it runs at 1.2 GHz and ours run at 1.0... welll i was thinking... we have overclock now so there goes that difference. Plus as overclock progresses and as time goes by i feel like we could hit as high as 1.5 safely. So pretty much the only major difference is the ram butt whooocaress? Like not to brag about our phones but Once were unlocked (which i feel like wont be much longer) our phone literally will be superior to any other android phone. What do you guys have to say (;
P.s. i could be missing specs but i feel like those 2 are the major ones.
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What bout the fact that you can be on the phone and go online at the same time. not sure if that is true but if thats the case then that will come in very helpful to me for work.
I didn't know about that. Yeah, that's pretty sexy. It's annoying when I get/make a lot of calls and my IRC session constantly drops.
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What bout the fact that you can be on the phone and go online at the same time. not sure if that is true but if thats the case then that will come in very helpful to me for work.
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Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
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Battery life is not the only problem. I bought a Bionic in early October but had regular issues with random data drops - so that I had no LTE, 3G or 1X - in area where I know there is strong and solid Verizon 3G. There was also a nationwide, 24 hour data outage when I was ten days in. I exchanged the Bionic for the D3 because it was the best 3G phone on Verizon.
Since then there have been two more nationwide LTE outages (which also takes out 3G for the LTE phone, but not for 3G phones), and the Bionic forums are filled with people still complaining about random data drops. (Apparently this is fixed with an LTE SIM swap, but who has time to keep going in to Verizon for a new SIM?) Meanwhile, my D3 has been a solid, solid, solid data device every since I got it in mid-October.
LTE is still not mature and I think I'll be happier locked in to a solid 3G phone like the D3 rather than an immature LTE phone (because surely the hardware and network will get better in the next year or so) for the next 20 or so months. I would be happier if the D3 had been 1 GB RAM, but I don't feel it's that big a deal. I can tell you that it's frustrating when you need data access somewhere and find that the phone isn't getting data where you know that it should be.
If you turn off LTE and force CDMA on your 4g phone, you can can be locked into 3G connectivity. That said, I like having a removal battery. I like that I have the choice to buy the extended. I think Droid 4 will be a bust tbqh. More memory would be nice but with Dpwhitty11's ROM, I don't have a need for it.
I don't honestly care. Hash has the ICS ROM coming along well and when it has the camera to me it will be perfectly stable for an Alpha. I am glad that it works and yeah 4G would be nice but I don't care honestly.
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I do believe that someone is working on a ics rom for the RAZR. so assuming that the 2 phones will be comparable it should be relatively easy for someone to port it over to the droid 4 "ASSUMING" they are going to be similar.
Razr will get official ICS support, not sure why anyone would work on it on their own. It would merely be a waste of their time.
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If you turn off LTE and force CDMA on your 4g phone, you can can be locked into 3G connectivity.
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3G connectivity is still affected by LTE outages on LTE phones. If LTE is down (as I believe it was again toady), 3G almost always is as well, though it is not for 3G-only phones. I also had as many random data drops with CDMA only mode as I did with LTE/CDMA on the Bionic.
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Will the Bionic have a locked down bootloader like the droid x?
I have no knowledge on the subject, but I can only assume that it will.
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Yeah, Moto confirmed it. It can still be rooted though (I'm assuming) , which is the most important thing to me personally.
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I love this community, and the ability to try others' work. I think Moto will keep their products locked to a degree. Done with them yet holding on to my Droid.
Who knows though now that Xoom is unlocked, maybe Moto finally got the hint. We can all wish, but until the release comes, we won't know for sure
The Atrix 4G got locked down, but hopefully we will have better luck..... My Droid Eris is feeling slower by the day, but I won't use my upgrade on a locked-down phone.
I remember reading from a few different places that the bionic has a good chance of being unlocked. That's because the chip they are using in the bionic vs. D2 and dx. The d2 and x have a certain chip that needs to locked down or something but since the bionic has the Tegra processor it won't have that special chip. I hope this is the case.
is this phone even worth getting? i'm due for an upgrade and they been trying to throw the iphone4 at me but i've been waiting for this...now i wonder if this is a waste of time... my eris is driving me crazy so i want something fairly soon...this phone seems to be the only worthy choice though for verizon customers...are there any other competitive options besides this phone without switching carriers?
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is this phone even worth getting? i'm due for an upgrade and they been trying to throw the iphone4 at me but i've been waiting for this...now i wonder if this is a waste of time... my eris is driving me crazy so i want something fairly soon...this phone seems to be the only worthy choice though for verizon customers...are there any other competitive options besides this phone without switching carriers?
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Thunderbolt? They believe they have a root for it already. And for sure is unlocked. It's for sure gonna have a great dev community.
oh. ok. i'll look into it more...i was under the impression it was for sprint like an evo2 replacement... didn't know it was verizon. ty
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I remember reading from a few different places that the bionic has a good chance of being unlocked. That's because the chip they are using in the bionic vs. D2 and dx. The d2 and x have a certain chip that needs to locked down or something but since the bionic has the Tegra processor it won't have that special chip. I hope this is the case.
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Chip's called e-fuse
The atrix boot loader is signed not encrypted
I expect the same will happen to the bionic as its basically an atrix with less RAM and a larger screen
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Good News!!! And I definitely want the Bionic because the Thunderbolt is essentially the Evo 4g with less battery but more ram(768mb vs 512mb). It also is essentially the same thing as the Droid Incredible, but with 512mb vs 768mb of ram.
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Good News!!! And I definitely want the Bionic because the Thunderbolt is essentially the Evo 4g with less battery but more ram(768mb vs 512mb). It also is essentially the same thing as the Droid Incredible, but with 512mb vs 768mb of ram.
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not really as the signed partitions and the bootloader is essentially checked each boot
devs are working to see if we can bypass it or something....but at least it isn't encrypted which gives the devs a slightly higher chance of finding a fix vs having the bootloader encrypted
Not to get get off topic but I wish the root population was larger. Then when motorola does encrypt their phones then it's not like the lesser 5% of the phone purchasers being upset about it. Me getting this phone depends on if it's unlocked or not. I have friends all the time ask me to root their phone. I have a few friends that run custom roms that I put on. Not one of them has had a problem(knock on wood) I don't see a big risk in rooting and flashing custom roms, especially with how easy it is nowadays. That's my 2 cents
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not really as the signed partitions and the bootloader is essentially checked each boot
devs are working to see if we can bypass it or something....but at least it isn't encrypted which gives the devs a slightly higher chance of finding a fix vs having the bootloader encrypted
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I know that, but it's better news than if it was encrypted and/or had something similar to an e-Fuse, and that's what I meant in good news. I knew it wouldn't be the same as a Nexus S or Nexus One (which are Dev friendly), but my Eris had a bootloader (S-On) which so far as I can see is the same as a signed bootloader (correct me if I'm wrong). Hopefully, it'll just be a couple of weeks/months to crack it but (knock on wood) at least we won't be stuck with the situation Droid X owners have.
Also, unrelated note, but I played with a friends Atrix 4G for about 30 minutes, and a couple things......
Good
1. Fast as hell! (In apps, games, typing, etc) Very lag free! (see below)
2. In game, incredibly smooth and great looking screen. Better than other friend's Droid Incredible, and colors look nearly as good as my old Zune HD.
Bad
1. Home screen lags quite badly. My friend had lots of apps on desktop and though the Live wallpaper and app drawer were smooth, switching left to right was laggy.... Very nitpicky but annoying.
Overall, I still want the phone (more than before), and want Cyanogenmod on this thing badly!
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Good News!!! And I definitely want the Bionic because the Thunderbolt is essentially the Evo 4g with less battery but more ram(768mb vs 512mb). It also is essentially the same thing as the Droid Incredible, but with 512mb vs 768mb of ram.
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Not really, the thunderbolt has a new generation snapdragon, between that and the extra ram, and better video processor, it's actually WAY faster than an Evo 4G. Out of the box quadrant scores are around 1975, and general performance is really much better than an Evo in every way. (not saying it's faster than a bionic obviously, but it definitely isn't the same thing as an Evo).
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Not really, the thunderbolt has a new generation snapdragon, between that and the extra ram, and better video processor, it's actually WAY faster than an Evo 4G. Out of the box quadrant scores are around 1975, and general performance is really much better than an Evo in every way. (not saying it's faster than a bionic obviously, but it definitely isn't the same thing as an Evo).
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Thanks for clarifying. When I looked to check facts for the comparison, it only said 1 ghz Snapdragon, so I assumed the same CPU/GPU as the first gen.
still the tegra 2 is a faster processor ... otherwise its more of a wait and see...
I have decided to wait for the bionic instead of getting the thunderbolt... unless the tb comes out tomorrow... but that is very unlikly.
im so sick of seeing people compare the evo to the thunderbolt, first things first, LTE is better than WiMAX. Second of all the processor arent even close, and you know on the evo if you use a task killer, it might have 250mb or RAM free, when you do it on the bolt, you will have overmb free, it will never lag. ever. and the only time it will fall behind the bionic or atrix is gaming, thats it
I'm going to be pissed if this comes out soon. I just got my D3 a few months ago
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/motorola-droid-4-exposed-to-our-wandering-eyes-comes-with-lte-i/
If this is true my D3 will hit ebay and I'll buy a nexus. This is just bad business, asinine.
I don't see how they can do this to consumers and think it's okay. I signed an additional 2 years onto my 1 year for this phone, just to be ****ed in the ass 3 months later. I will not buy anything but nexus in the future. One phone a year, like it's supposed to be.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.
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Non removable battery is an instant do not want from me also, but I'm just pissed about this ****. I will never buy another motorola phone, I'm done. Give me Nexus or give me death.
I paid full retail for this phone right when it came out, I'm pretty pissed. If that comes out within the next few months (from the looks of it, it will) it'll be goodbye moto and hello nexus for me.
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Yeah ill be pretty frustrated @ moto too.... problem is I can't live without a keyboard and for some reason moto is the only company willing to put out higher end keyboard phones
Well, the Nexus looks great (as long as you are ok with something that big - I am not), and I do love the idea of a pure Google experience, but nobody has actually used one; we have no idea how good or bad it will be. And, this is a Samsung phone, and is coming out even closer to the launch of the Samsung Charge than any the presumed D4 is coming to the D3. This is the reality - you reach a point to get an upgrade, you get the upgrade, and you stop worrying whether something slightly better is coming out in a few months - because it is.
I'm ok with a thinner device with non-removable battery - I have chargers everywhere, including in my car, and there are plenty of great portable charging devices that you can get for phones like that. After tons of issue with the Bionic over two weeks dropping data (3G, in areas where I know I have a solid 3G signal), I'm happy to have the D3 for the next 19.5 months, and give plenty of time to Moto and VZW to get LTE truly ready for prime time - because it's not quite there now. The D3 is a great phone and I'll be fine with it; not a single data drop since I've had it, and battery life is about the same as the Bionic (when it was running CDMA only).
I do think that this angle-cornered design of the Razr and this prototype is a bit on the unattractive side, though, compared with the Bionic/D3.
I don't mind that they are putting out another version of the Droid soon. It's a losing battle to have the latest and greatest phone. What bothers me is what will happen to OS updates. Will phones get abandoned quicker?
Also did anyone else notice non-removable battery, looks like I wouldn't buy it. I pay an and a leg for a phone along with a plan and both Verizon and Motorola act like they own your phone. Do they not realize why people buy Android phones? I can upgrade/swap batteries, I can run whatever programs I want, I can add a memory card, etc.
for people like sims and whitty who have been doing a lot of work on the d3 and are being ostracized, i firmly believe this is an idiotic move on moto's side. I'm probably gonna go the nexus route if the d4 drops as soon as everyone is speculating it is. This is some major bs.
At least I have the Transformer Prime to look forward to....
But seriously. Ugh. Waco has no 4G of any kind and won't for years to come so this doesn't affect me too much, but still. This will take away a huge amount of potential users and will piss off all the D3 buyers, especially the ones like me who bought it on full retail.
I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)
Most people won't have 4G for at least another year. By then, that phone will be obsolete, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff.
*If you're not on Gingerbread, you should be shot*
Really, who cares about 4G when the 3G part is not on par with a 3 years old Sonyericsson phone ?
Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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It is a big deal because if someone wants a qwerty are they going to buy the 3 or the 4? We'll be left behind with a smaller community, as great as it is. It's just frustrating and I've had it with moto's bull****.
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I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)
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Interesting point, if it does have a GSM radio, this will be the first Global capable phone with LTE. How wold that even work, 2 SIM cards?
Non-replaceable battery will keep it off my list too. I'm in the NYC Metro Area and I know a few people with LTE phones, Bionic, Charge and TB. All have the same complaint, the battery life is horrible and they have constant connection issues. I'm waiting until next year summer-fall when the 2nd or 3rd generation LTE chips come out.
i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good
Motorola can't be serious, Droid 3 is only about 4 month old.
And I don't really like the curved design
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i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good
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If you're on unlimited data now (using 3G), when you switch to a 4G phone you stay on unlimited data (now using 4G).
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-DROID-4_id6431
Boooooooooo
No, it's not out.
It was only now made official/announced.
It isn't even a big upgrade. 4g is the only real addon. We can hack the rest with our customizing abilities.
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It isn't even a big upgrade. 4g is the only real addon. We can hack the rest with our customizing abilities.
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I dont think its global. I like the global option on my D3.
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It isn't even a big upgrade. 4g is the only real addon. We can hack the rest with our customizing abilities.
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and 1gb ram
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I dont think its global. I like the global option on my D3.
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It supports GSM as per the release statement. However, I don't feel it is a BIG deal compared to D3. The biggest problem I have with D4 is its non-removable battery. In 4G environment and without the option of using extended battery, users may have to switch back to 3G in order to survive the day.
In addition, 1.2G cpu is a marginal improvement of 1.0. 1G of RAM will benefit those who run a lot of apps. IMHO, it is NOT realistic, it is not yet a PC.
At the end, the price it will demand could be $200-$300 initially. I paid $40.00 two weeks ago @ costco. Two months after D4 in the market, it is just like one of the many phones. Who cares?
If D3 serves you well, enjoy it!
Is it global? I didn't see that capability listed in the press release, but perhaps I missed it. I know it was in some of the initial specs, but I believe the Bionic and RAZR also listed those bands as available in initial specs but when released did not include it. I remember reading somewhere that all three use the same Qualcomm chipset that is GSM capable, which makes it easy for Motorla to transfer the device to overseas markets, hence initial Motorla specs that show GSM, but it's disabled/antennas are swapped out depending on markets.
I would think that if Droid 4 was global, Verizon would have touted that heavily in the press release as its first 4g LTE global phone. Just look at how it touted global capabilities in its press releases today about the global ready 4g LTE hotspot mifi devices.
Regarding non-removable battery - ridiculous. The battery cover lifts off for SIM access, why make the battery non-removable? Perhaps they are waiting to come out with the Droid 4 MAXX just like the RAZR MAXX - 3300mah power in a case 1mm-2mm thicker.
thanx cant wait to get this phone
by the time it reaches the developpers, and they deal with it, and new roms will be available..probably D5 will be out )
so i will stick to D3 with custom roms until they issue something much better and they unlock the bootloader.
The next phone I buy WILL have an unlocked bootloader. Seems like a nice phone but unless it gets unlocked, forget it!
Everybody (Engadget especially) who saw the phone in person, keeps quiet on screen technology/quality. Which makes me believe we got the same RGBW TFT screen from D3. If so - another disappointment..
It looks like it will not be global (only CDMA and LTE), one more difference from D3 - webtop and laptop docks I guess...
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Verizon's announcement says nothing about GSM or about it being a world phone. The new Blackberry Curve was announced as a world phone, so my guess is that the Verizon version at least is CDMA/LTE only. (It makes sense - I can imagine a dual-SIM phone could be confusing to most consumers, unless there is a way to make a dual LTE and GSM SIM slot.)
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It looks like it will not be global (only CDMA and LTE), one more difference from D3 - webtop and laptop docks I guess...
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One more - we know that this one is getting an official ICS. We still don't know about the D3 and ICS.
You are right, I couldn't find GSM support in verizon's statement. It does show up in the spec posted in one of the sites ... couldn't remember the name though.
Hope D4 comes to market sooner than later so I can get more discounts on D3 accessories.
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Verizon's announcement says nothing about GSM or about it being a world phone. The new Blackberry Curve was announced as a world phone, so my guess is that the Verizon version at least is CDMA/LTE only. (It makes sense - I can imagine a dual-SIM phone could be confusing to most consumers, unless there is a way to make a dual LTE and GSM SIM slot.)
One more - we know that this one is getting an official ICS. We still don't know about the D3 and ICS.
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Well if it's got the same PenTile display with the same resolution, only a 0.2GHz speed bump, essentially the same chipsets, and and non-removable battery (Ugh), it's not even worth the time or money to upgrade. Its only real bragging right is the doubled RAM; 4G LTE would be a bragging right, if it weren't just going to drain the measley little non-removable stock battery in 5 hours flat. Screw that.
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here ? developer.motorola.com/products/droid-4-xt894/
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Everybody (Engadget especially) who saw the phone in person, keeps quiet on screen technology/quality. Which makes me believe we got the same RGBW TFT screen from D3. If so - another disappointment..
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Quoting myself - screen is the same as on Droid 3. qHD TFT RGBW PenTile matrix. Two thumbs down!
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here ? http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid-4-xt894/
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Yeah - GSM/HSPA is listed and I won't be surprised if they work. But this time they seem to have missed the North American and Australian 850/1900 bands. Only the Euro 900/2100 bands are enlisted. Good for guys across the pond but not for guys like me in nearby countries. Anyways screen sucks - I am passing by this time. Waiting to see what Motorola will pull out for the next iteration, which I'm sure will be on the market by this summer
There is something odd with the GSM/UMTS bands. The band 900 is hardly present here in Europe, and for good reason neither D2G nor D3 supported it -- nobody missed it. But the 900/2100 combination is very common for European handsets.
I rather think the GSM related specs are mistakingly listed at the Motorola site. Most likely D4 isn't GSM capable at all.
BTW, I still love the display.
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BTW, I still love the display.
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.....Seriously?
The DROID 3 (and thus the DROID 4) has the worst screen I've ever seen on a device. The resolution and size is nice, and visibility in sunlight is great, but the nature of the screen sucks ****. If things move fast enough on screen, you can see the same thin in multiple places. Example: going through homescreens fast looks like a rainbow. Slowly scrolling homescreens leaves a very noticeable ghosting effect. I could go on, but my keyboard is annoying me with the 30% failure of the "b" and "a" keys every time I press them.
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I am posting a follow up thread on my review of my new Nexus 4 16 after two full days of what I would consider normal use. I used the same routine I would be using with my trusty GNEX and spared the phone no mercy.
Call quality and reception has been excellent on the T-Mobile US network and some of my clients have actually asked me if I changed phones because I sound better on the new N4, a positive feedback.
Battery life is actually a little better then the GNEX and I have always say if you are so worried about the battery life, Buy a GOOD car charger and it solves that issue.
I have been impressed with the speed and smoothness of this stock 4.2 JB ROM, the screen swipe is smooth with no lag and the apps launch quickly. The screen sharpness is top notch and in my opinion better then my GNEX.
The network connection has been perfect with no dropped calls and I have always had a solid 3G or H icon in the status bar, it would be nice to have a battery percentage indicator in the status bar though.
I used the Google voice function when texting and sending emails and I was impressed how fast the response time was, very little lag time when I was talking and the text was been generated on the screen.
So far this phone has been everything I expected it to be, yes 4G would be nice but for what I use the device for, 3G & HSPA is fine.I did not buy it to watch movies or play games. I use it as a phone and PDA like it was meant to be used.
My only complaint is a personal preference, but why is the hour text font on the lockscreen digital clock so much bigger then the minutes, drives me nuts looking at it. Maybe there is a way to change it and I just haven't found it yet.
Just my feedback and what is now my daily driver. I can't wait until the developers start build customs ROM's for it. Thanks Google for a great device that is priced just right for the person looking for a reliable wireless device. ME.
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My only complaint is a personal preference, but why is the hour text font on the lockscreen digital clock so much bigger then the minutes, drives me nuts looking at it. Maybe there is a way to change it and I just haven't found it yet.
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The clock is just like that for effect. I actually like it, but I know many people won't. Someone on Reddit modified it to remove the bold. Here's the link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.alamoapps.unboldedclockwidget
Remove the stock clock widget and add the new one
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I am posting a follow up thread on my review of my new Nexus 4 16 after two full days of what I would consider normal use. I used the same routine I would be using with my trusty GNEX and spared the phone no mercy.
Call quality and reception has been excellent on the T-Mobile US network and some of my clients have actually asked me if I changed phones because I sound better on the new N4, a positive feedback.
Battery life is actually a little better then the GNEX and I have always say if you are so worried about the battery life, Buy a GOOD car charger and it solves that issue.
I have been impressed with the speed and smoothness of this stock 4.2 JB ROM, the screen swipe is smooth with no lag and the apps launch quickly. The screen sharpness is top notch and in my opinion better then my GNEX.
The network connection has been perfect with no dropped calls and I have always had a solid 3G or H icon in the status bar, it would be nice to have a battery percentage indicator in the status bar though.
I used the Google voice function when texting and sending emails and I was impressed how fast the response time was, very little lag time when I was talking and the text was been generated on the screen.
So far this phone has been everything I expected it to be, yes 4G would be nice but for what I use the device for, 3G & HSPA is fine.I did not buy it to watch movies or play games. I use it as a phone and PDA like it was meant to be used.
My only complaint is a personal preference, but why is the hour text font on the lockscreen digital clock so much bigger then the minutes, drives me nuts looking at it. Maybe there is a way to change it and I just haven't found it yet.
Just my feedback and what is now my daily driver. I can't wait until the developers start build customs ROM's for it. Thanks Google for a great device that is priced just right for the person looking for a reliable wireless device. ME.
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Cool, I dont understand your Movies reference. I have an Inspire 4g and it truley does not have 4g. Just HSPA. I play netflix all the time. Everyday. I don't think ppl understand the difference between 3g and HSPA. Its actually quite a bit. I hate when I am only connected to 3g.... ..
Hspa + is 4g...
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As a Gnex user... how is the screen in terms of black levels and light bleed? Do you notice it a lot ? I love the AMOLED displays so that alone might keep me from the N4
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Hspa + is 4g...
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Sure......
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Richieboy67 said:
Hspa + is 4g...
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Nope.
Yeap H = HSPA + = 4G under T-Mobile's network ... Not technically 4G as in LTE but close enough and fast enough for most users .. (Unless you upload and download massive files all the time)
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As a Gnex user... how is the screen in terms of black levels and light bleed? Do you notice it a lot ? I love the AMOLED displays so that alone might keep me from the N4
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I was also skeptical about the N4 screen, but now I like it and for me the colors are nice and the text is crisp. Just my opinion.
4G it's just a marketing campaign anyway as in really not even LTE it's 4G as they are completely different
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4G it's just a marketing campaign anyway as in really not even LTE it's 4G as they are completely different
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Yeah, neither LTE or HSPA+ is 4G, I believe the real 4G is LTE-A.
If you got it from T-mous, can you try to see if tethering works? Does it have built in android tethering with usb and wifi option? Thanks
This screen in my opinion is the best I seen and I had just about every phone the blacks are black and the whites are super bright this phone is definitely fast everything opens instantly. This is why I say benchmarks mean ****.... Because this phone is insanely fast. I like it and the price made it even better. Battery life has been a little better then my s3 2 days is not really enough time to test that though. All in all I think you guys should be happy. I can not wait to see what this does with a good kernel
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current hspa+ is not 4g
mimo multicarrier dc hspa+ is however..since it achieves 168mbps which is way beyond 4g standards
regardless..most lte used only get around 30mbps(that ive seen) so its not that far of a stretch..
So 4g is what? Speed only? I thought it was basically the generation after 4g...I don't think any 3g comes close to hspa+..my brothers often gets over 40mbps down..
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So 4g is what? Speed only? I thought it was basically the generation after 4g...I don't think any 3g comes close to hspa+..my brothers often gets over 40mbps down..
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4g definition=100mbps mobile, 1000mbps in close proximity
lte was never 4g, neither was dchspa since neither actually got to 100mbps
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So 4g is what? Speed only? I thought it was basically the generation after 4g...I don't think any 3g comes close to hspa+..my brothers often gets over 40mbps down..
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True 4g is 100mbps it is all a gimmick. But let me tell you 40down is fast and another thing to remember is you won't feel a different from 7down to 20 it's all fast really. It is just bull how the company's say it is 4g it's really 3.5 g if that makes sense lol
4G is 4th Generation and unless I am mistaken Wimax is the only true 4th generation because LTE, HSPA+ came after and LTE-A is still comming. There is so little difference in the different flavors that they have bunched all the brothers together in marketing as 4G.
You are just playing with words, true 4g etc..if it is fast, has great coverage and does not drain the battery like a hooker on Broad st then it is all good to me..screw lte..
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T mobile 4g=hspa +42..... Average speed good are around 20mb down and 2mb upload. No its not lte but it's t mobiles "4g"
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I'm basically a phone addict. I've had the PPC-6700, Mogul, Vogue, TP, TP2, EVO, and now EVO LTE. The EVO was the only phone that I've kept for the life of my two year contract. I'm one year into my EVO LTE and there's nothing really wrong with it other than the fact that I'm bored.
Was the upgrade worth it to you guys or now that the novelty has worn off? Let me know!
Worth it, totally. The qualcomm s600 has some balls and sense 5 is the fastest version ever
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Honesty, if I didn't have an upgrade, I could have waited. I was on the evo 4g lte as well. I have 4 phone lines on my plan, so I get to upgrade every year. I was running meanbean from the start then went to sense 5. I'm sure it's even better now.
I think the biggest difference is the sound from the front facing speakers.
It is much faster, but I'm not a gamer, do that's pretty much a wash.
It is beautiful and build quality is awesome. I use cases on my phones, so that's a wash as well.
The camera is way better on the ONE as well.
If you're really deadset on upgrading, I'm sure the evo is still worth something. I got $100 for the old og evo.
Just my $.02 of course.
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completely worth it for me, i got so sick of the lte reception issues with the lte. battery life is amazing and the speakers are great for watching movies or streaming music at work.
Well, I had the Evo LTe and my wife still has it.
Honestly, I don't see the rush to update. I called Sprint they gave me a deal buy back my contract on the EVolte and cost me $380.00 for the early upgrade. Trust me... The EVo Lte is up too par with the Htc One. Except the live feeds, some camera features and display. But overall camera, performance and speed the EvoLte is equally matched.
From My htc ONE.
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Well, I had the Evo LTe and my wife still has it.
Honestly, I don't see the rush to update. I called Sprint they gave me a deal buy back my contract on the EVolte and cost me $380.00 for the early upgrade. Trust me... The EVo Lte is up too par with the Htc One. Except the live feeds, some camera features and display. But overall camera, performance and speed the EvoLte is equally matched.
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I have to disagree. With 2 gb of ram, multitasking finally works right. Also, when sending mms, its far faster on the One to attach pics to the mms, including more than one pic. If its an AOSP rom on the LTE, then yeah its kinda close.
I have had the HTC Touch Pro, The HTC Touch Pro 2, EVO, Evo3D, EVO LTE, HTC One. The evo was ahead of it's time, but the 3D was actually one of my favorite upgrades. It was fast, going to the evoLTE from the 3D wasn't that impressive in my opinion. I always had issues with wi-fi on the evoLTE. It was a good phone but not something I was blown away on. The HTC ONE is amazing. The speakers alone are worth the upgrade. The way it's built is HTC's best built phone ever. It's super fast, battery rocks, wi-fi actually works correctly (at least for me). It's a very worthy upgrade, I couldn't wait to get rid of my evo LTE again mainly cause I had wi-fi issues. Could have been just my hardware. The one had worked perfect for me so far except my simulated battery pull doesn't seem to work correctly. Other than that, it's the most impressive upgrade I have had since I have been using smart phones. All the evo devices I have had on release day so I have had plenty of time using each one.
Paid for my one outright. Bit my wallet pretty bad, but it's worth every cent. The screen, the speakers, the cpu, the build, everything kicks the crap out of the lte. The ONLY thing that bothers me is...no miss my kickstand. I go to put my phone down and ..I...I don't know what to do with myself. Although the thing that has kept me the most happy so far is working radios. Consistent 3g, and I can actually hold an lte signal now!
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Thanks everyone. I have 5 lines on my account so I have an upgrade to use. I was worried about the One being able to hold an LTE connection because of some of the threads I've read. This is the only thing that bothers me about the ELTE.
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Thanks everyone. I have 5 lines on my account so I have an upgrade to use. I was worried about the One being able to hold an LTE connection because of some of the threads I've read. This is the only thing that bothers me about the ELTE.
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Yeah the signal problem on my E lte was really pissing me off. The one is much better at holding it I have no idea what these guys are talking about
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I don't regret upgrading in the slightest. My evo battery life was so god aweful and random freezes, I had so many problems with it. The HTC One is like a godsend to me. I love being able to listen to pandora at work and at the end of the day still have 30 percent battery life left.
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I don't regret upgrading in the slightest. My evo battery life was so god aweful and random freezes, I had so many problems with it. The HTC One is like a godsend to me. I love being able to listen to pandora at work and at the end of the day still have 30 percent battery life left.
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Im an ex evo user. I got1and a half times the battery life with it. No comparison whatsoever. If course I used custom kernel but I am with this phone also. But with the evo I could have5 hours screen on and still get a total of 20 hours use. Just my 2 cents. My son had the evo as I gave it to him and he laughs when I have to charge this phone. We don't have lte where we live so thats not an issue. And for this camera being better I'm not sure that's the case either. We have done comparison shots and in my opinion the right megapixel it's definitely better in certain situations by far. Just my input. Thanks.
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I don't regret this phone even for one second, much more solid and better connections, speakers are also great!! I do miss the kickstand however and regarding photos I've taken some very nice outdoor pictures and the low light aka indoor photos blow the evo lte away for sure, I took pics side by side in a dimly lit room evo u could barely see a chair of sorts the one u could see the chair the detail on the cushin and the dresser on the other side and also the wall 5 ft behind it instead of just darkness..I'll try to grab some side by sides and show u what I mean
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I went through all the same phones you listed plus a couple more I've had the Evo 3d and this is the nicest HTC phone I've had yet
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I was just a original Evo user - now I have the One - what a great phone. HTC understands what were about.
Get the One. I still have my Evo LTE and I do comparison and the One just outshines it. Better display. True multitasking, doesn't reload every app after leaving it. Better sound quality with and without headphones, you definitely can tell a difference. No lag issues at all. For instance. Download a torrent file on your Evo LTE, that phone will lag like hell. Do the same with the One, it will perform with no lag. If you're a gamer go with the One. Just get it. Best phone I've had.
My phone history is Motorola Q, HTC Mogul, Sidekick LX, IPhone, Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, Evo 4G, Evo LTE, now the One.
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Ph33zy said:
I'm basically a phone addict. I've had the PPC-6700, Mogul, Vogue, TP, TP2, EVO, and now EVO LTE. The EVO was the only phone that I've kept for the life of my two year contract. I'm one year into my EVO LTE and there's nothing really wrong with it other than the fact that I'm bored.
Was the upgrade worth it to you guys or now that the novelty has worn off? Let me know!
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Have had each "EVO" (4G, 3D, 4g-LTE) since I came back to Sprint a while ago...
In Chicago, we've had LTE since last Fall. I do notice a difference in Speed (3-5Mbps faster in some areas) vs. my "4gLT-EVO." That alone was worth it to me!
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Have had each "EVO" (4G, 3D, 4g-LTE) since I came back to Sprint a while ago...
In Chicago, we've had LTE since last Fall. I do notice a difference in Speed (3-5Mbps faster in some areas) vs. my "4gLT-EVO." That alone was worth it to me!
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Forgot that. 4G fights to light up on your phone. The LTE would stay on 3g until I cut my mobile network off and back on.
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Yep, Got rid of my LTE for the One, the only thing that's taking me a while to get used to are my capacitive buttons. I just found out that double tapping the home button brings up the recent apps lol. I miss the camera buttons as well.
But once you get used to that, everything else is great. I love it, love Zoe, love the sound, screen size, and the hassle-free 4G. I've had it for almost 2 weeks now and I'm yet to root it, longest I've gone, so, no complaints here.
While I was driving to the sprint store to get my One I kept saying why am I getting this new phone? After I got it there's no question that it was the right decision lol both moms have evo ltes now and I could never go back