After getting back on the update path and updating to 5.9.901 I found someone tweaked eclipse to be compatible with it. I just noticed that my system version is back to 5.7.893, is this just because eclipse is actually 893 based? Or did something go wrong and it should say 901?
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Eclipse is based off of 5.7.893. That is all. You still have the 901 radio's etc. When a new OTA comes out, you will need to go back to stock ROM that shows 901 etc to get it.
Thanks, that's what I assumed. I'm guessing the 5.5.893 update wouldn't be able to get me back to the stock OTA, right? I stupidly forgot to make a backup to get back to it for updates.
I'm guessing just do what you originally did to beable to get back on the OTA update path. I'm not sure about that.. I have 5.5.893.
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So I rooted, using one click method, backed up stock .886 and installed blurry 2.0, based on .893. I know now that the kernal and radios are changed from .886. Does this render my stock back up of .886 useless? Also, what if the OTA update coming in November is actually different than .893, will I be able to update to what ever that may be?
stevessvt said:
So I rooted, backed up stock .886 and installed blurry 2.0, based on .893. I know now that the kernal and radios are changed from .886. Does this render my stock back up of .886 useless? Also, what if the OTA update coming in November is actually different than .893, will I be able to what ever that may be?
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I would take an educated guess and say yes your 886 backups are trash, but don't take my word on that.
If you made those backups through ROM Manager, you're in luck.
https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS5oYW5keWFuZHkuYXBwZXh0cmFjdG9yIl0
That app can extract apps, contacts, and SMS/MMS from Nandroid backups done through ROM Manager.
Tivo7 said:
I would take an educated guess and say yes your 886 backups are trash, but don't take my word on that.
If you made those backups through ROM Manager, you're in luck.
https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS5oYW5keWFuZHkuYXBwZXh0cmFjdG9yIl0
That app can extract apps, contacts, and SMS/MMS from Nandroid backups done through ROM Manager.
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Im loving blurry just fine and see no reason to go back, but I just hope I didnt cut off my nose to spite my face in regards to future updates.
So I did a data reset in bootstrap, and reinstalled my stock .886 back up, and it installed fine. Rebooted and everything worked as it should.
stevessvt said:
So I did a data reset in bootstrap, and reinstalled my stock .886 back up, and it installed fine. Rebooted and everything worked as it should.
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Awesome.
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If you just install 2.0 over stock, you do not get the .893 radio or kernal. You only get the system. To get the radio and kernal you need to to go back to stock, do the permanent root method, install the cheesecake app, then update to .893 through cheesecake, and then flash 2.0. If at that point you flash .886 again, you would have the .893 radio and kernal, and the .886 system. Because the bootloader is locked, you cannot flash a new kernal or radio via cwm.
Sooooo by flashing blurr3y 2.0 in cwm I never got .893 radio/kernel?
stevessvt said:
Sooooo by flashing blurr3y 2.0 in cwm I never got .893 radio/kernel?
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Correct.
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If you just install 2.0 over stock, you do not get the .893 radio or kernal. You only get the system. To get the radio and kernal you need to to go back to stock, do the permanent root method, install the cheesecake app, then update to .893 through cheesecake, and then flash 2.0. If at that point you flash .886 again, you would have the .893 radio and kernal, and the .886 system. Because the bootloader is locked, you cannot flash a new kernal or radio via cwm.
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Following this will do the trick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320414
Tivo7 said:
Following this will do the trick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320414
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Thanks for putting that guide up Tivo. I figure when the next update comes out, you might have to be back with the .886 and I was wondering whether there was a way to downgrade the radio and kernal to stock after going to .893.
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Thanks for putting that guide up Tivo. I figure when the next update comes out, you might have to be back with the .886 and I was wondering whether there was a way to downgrade the radio and kernal to stock after going to .893.
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The next update IS 893, I've already gotten confirmation of that.
Rootable?
Tivo, will the new bionics being shipped with .893 be rootable? Will they need to be rolled back per the method you detailed here ?
anarchy4sale said:
Tivo, will the new bionics being shipped with .893 be rootable? Will they need to be rolled back per the method you detailed here ?
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We will have to wait and see what root methods work after the ota is released. Painfully to wait, I know.
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It will revert you back to system 886, but your kernel/radio will stay with whatever update you installed. I currently have a hybrid going on. 5.5.893 system and 5.6.893 kernel.
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Im just curious, had 5.7.893 with missing webtop and I had a back up of, I went back to .886 and used the 5.5.886-5.7.893 54meg update, but didnt make a back up of this, since I figured they where both 5.7.893. But now Im not getting the .894 update offered to me, not that I want it, I just want to make sure Im still on the upgrade path. I tried before knowing the damage 894 does, to install it, and failed.
I may be a noob but what exactly is the point of this. I keep both update.zip's on my sd card(893,901). I just tried this. Im on stock 5.5.886 rooted. booted in stock recovery and applied both updates. Now im on .901 and still rooted. I didnt get the cdt.bin error or anything. What is BIONICPATHSAVER supposed to do?
From my understanding, its an extra string of security that keeps root open. I did the same thing and it worked. But my first attempt wasnt soo lucky. I ended up bricking my bionic. No worries though, i used my motorola limited warranty. Now i just have my verizon warranty left
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The point of this tool is to save your ass.
it can be and should be used to go from a pre 901 rom to a 901 rom as well as helping you unbrick your phone.
I needed it to go from liberty 2.0 to eclipse 2.1
Primarily its for people who got off the update path via cheesecake updates. It returns you to the upgrade path so that you can once again receive the OTA updates. Atleast thats my understand of it.
you will need it if you ever want to go back down to 5.5.893.
It was created for people that loaded 5.7.893 or 5.5.894 that were off the update path. If they release ICS for 5.5.893 and not for 5.5.901 at the same time, you may want to go back to get ICS.
What are the risks involved? I might want to upgrade to Eclipse 3.0, but am concerned about how the unsafe update migbt affect future Verizon OTAs processing.
With the quick avaible way to FXZ your way back to the 902 stock path I would think it would be worth a shot. Check out the link posted below. Currently I think Verzion wouldn't be applying anything soon so there is a great chance to run the leak 905 while you wait for a official update. Had to use this FXZ process just yesturday due to some radio issues with any rom I had on my Bionic. Currently still only Stock and rock solid. Good Luck and let me know how it goes I might jump to the 3.0 update to as long as the Market will fully update to the new Play Store.
http://www.droidhive.com/forums/index.php?/topic/87-902-bionic-pathsaver-for-windowslinuxmac/
ronaldheld said:
What are the risks involved? I might want to upgrade to Eclipse 3.0, but am concerned about how the unsafe update migbt affect future Verizon OTAs processing.
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At this point, I'd say the risks are pretty much none
another problem is the only ROMs on .905 is Eclipse, so upgrading to that eliminates trying ICS ROMs.
Anyone know when the .905 OTA will start?
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another problem is the only ROMs on .905 is Eclipse, so upgrading to that eliminates trying ICS ROMs.
Anyone know when the .905 OTA will start?
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It has started already.
I just went to Verizon Support and could not find the 905 update...If I go back to stock, will I get an OTA update??
Will this update brick my rooted phone which currently has version 902 on it?
Is it possible to upgrade from 904? Flashing the zip through stock recovery hasn't worked for me. Keep getting an error message.
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lhkjohn said:
Is it possible to upgrade from 904? Flashing the zip through stock recovery hasn't worked for me. Keep getting an error message.
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It's not possible to go from .904 to .905. The update.zip for .905 looks for system files from .902 before doing anything. It's supposed to fail for you until you FXZ back to .902
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Will this update brick my rooted phone which currently has version 902 on it?
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It shouldn't brick, but you may lose root. Also if you've frozen and/or removed bloatware the update will fail.
ronaldheld said:
another problem is the only ROMs on .905 is Eclipse, so upgrading to that eliminates trying ICS ROMs.
Anyone know when the .905 OTA will start?
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I was surprised at how well ICS ROMs played with my phone when I was on .904. It may be worth it to try on .905 too. Even then, the devs will probably make updates soon to accommodate the new kernel in .905.
rosystreasures said:
I just went to Verizon Support and could not find the 905 update...If I go back to stock, will I get an OTA update??
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OTA updates are made for stock phones. The .905 update only updates phones that are running completely stock .902 phones. The OTA updates fail on anything that is not stock. OTA updates are built to expect a certain existing revision of the software. If that is not present, the update will fail. You must revert to stock 5.9.902 if you want .905 to install.
I, too, am getting an error msg about the xml not being correct, or I am missing certain image files. I haven't removed any of the bloatware.
I had 902. Rooted and ROM'd with Eclipse 2.2. Installed CoreDroid_Eclipse_2.2. Curious, will Core Droid not work with Eclipse 3.0?? (IF I ever get the 902 stock again...)
Yesterday i flashed if i remember the 223 leak. I flashed from 905, rooted with razor ics root. I went in to sqlite and changed the setting to get the free hotspot and than rebooted. Now on my top banner the wifi icon and my signal icon stay gray! They never got to blue! I have data service but the are always gray. Also later my signal strength went noticeably lower than before i flashed! Any help would be great! ...... also i just noticed that my browser is talking! Had chrome installed, couldn't find anything in the settings so i uninstalled and went to reinstall. Play store says that NOW its not compatible with my device! And now my stock browser is talking to me! PLEASE HELP!!!!!!
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One thing at a tine.
Browser talking - check you're accessibility settings, see if Talkback is enabled.
For the GNow, that does not come with the ICS leaks. Either you installed an unofficial leak, or you installed GNow before the leak, or you installed it after the leak. There is a thread in XDA that details how to get GNow working in ICS.
For the sqlite mod, change the string back. Foxfi is free, doesn't require root, and works.
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Thanks, I FXZed back and reloaded everything no sqlite no root and everything seems good! Still lost data for a while last night but l don't have great service at home! Might root later today, we'll see!
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I do have one more question! If i go from .233 can i just flash .235 or do i need to FXZ again?
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Each time you try to flash a new ics leak you HAVE TO FLASH BACK TO 902/905
if you flash to 235 YOU CAN NOT FLASH BACK TO 902/905 but you can only move foward
I recommend you stay on 232 unless you dont care about flashing back to gb
bhp117 said:
Each time you try to flash a new ics leak you HAVE TO FLASH BACK TO 902/905
if you flash to 235 YOU CAN NOT FLASH BACK TO 902/905 but you can only move foward
I recommend you stay on 232 unless you dont care about flashing back to gb
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If people are going to keep stating this, then they need to qualify it with the fact that you can still install GB roms on the safe side. You can even put .905 stock back on safe or unsafe using the backup restore within Safestrap (if you have the stock .905 backup file that is). There's a lot of scare about .235, but all you have to do is change how you flash and you don't "lose" anything. **Wonder if I will have to make another tutorial for people on .235...goodness**
What? We have a locked boot loader... can't run .235 on one side and .905 on the other lol
What he said was correct.. you cannot use RSD lite to fxz back to .902/.905 with .235 so unless you're a fool don't make the move... 232 is great
Finally Iced Out Legitimately... Bionic is back
You cannot go back to fully stock Gingerbread anything once you flash .235 so for the sake of newer users being thrown off the upgrade path and not being able to FXZ back to .905 we all should just leave it at that.
cnorman76 said:
I do have one more question! If i go from .233 can i just flash .235 or do i need to FXZ again?
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I think you've gotten the gist of the info, but I'll reiterate.
You have to be on .905 to flash any of the current ICS leaks (and there is a 99% chance of that being true with any future leaks / soak tests / final OTA b/c .905 is the current official OS version for the BIONIC.
You can flash .235 off of .905, but once you are in .235, you cannot restore your phone to .905 via FXZ, and you cannot try to fool the system with a simple Nandroid backup of .905 that you restore over .235. The reason is that the update script also looks to patch several things.
First of all, no update script ever includes the boot.img of the version that is being installed. It includes a patch file that requires you to have either the boot.img of the system that you are coming from, or the system that you are going to. Any other version and it throws up an error and does not allow the update to continue. IOW, if, say, leak .241 comes out, and you're on .235, you have no way to getting .241 without using a method to make the .241 kernel. You cannot flash the .905 kernel onto a .235 system - it trips eFuse and bricks the phone. You have no .241 kernel to install b/c, as I said, the update only includes a patch file, not the full kernel.
Second, even provide that you pass that (which in theory you might as you are on a .235 leak with only .905 /system restored from a Nandroid backup, and if the new leak uses the exact same kernel you'll pass), it also verifies every file in /system that it is going to patch, along with every file in /preinstall that you are going to patch. Restoring that Nandroid backup does wonders for having the .905 /system on your phone, but the current leak you are on has already patched several files in /preinstall, so those signatures will not match, and you'll fail the verification step, and ultimately the update will fail.
For the record, a typical FXZ flashes 17 different partitions on our phones. Nandroid backups on the BIONIC typically can only make backups of 3-4 of those partitions. We have figured out ways to grab a few more of them, but we are still stuck at grabbing a couple of them, and there are 4-5 that we cannot grab from our phones at all.
Since the folks with RAZRs went through something very similar in May and June, mattlgroff figured out a way to fool the update into thinking you have all the components correct in place that need to be there, and the update proceeds. Thus far, after bricking my phone trying to FXZ back to .905 / .902, I used a script to get back on .235, then verified that the move to reinstall the .235 leak works. If another leak is found, then I can test the second part of the script, that which allows new leaks to be installed. The script does not allow any older ICS leak to be installed, and currently there is no way to go back to a previous leak nor a previous GB stock FXZ at all. Even if we had a .223X ICS FXZ or a .22X ICS FXZ or a .230/.232 FXZ, they would not work on a phone that has been updated to .235.
That is why we're saying hold off unless you're 100% positive you're willing to accept the risk - this is way beyond the risk associated with rooting your phone. If Motorola makes the next leak force the phone to have components from .905 that we cannot flash into a .235 upgraded phone, I (and several others that have taken the plunge) might be permanently stuck on .235 until an FXZ for a version of ICS higher than or equal to .235 is released. And that typically takes 6-8 weeks.
HTH
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If people are going to keep stating this, then they need to qualify it with the fact that you can still install GB roms on the safe side. You can even put .905 stock back on safe or unsafe using the backup restore within Safestrap (if you have the stock .905 backup file that is). There's a lot of scare about .235, but all you have to do is change how you flash and you don't "lose" anything. **Wonder if I will have to make another tutorial for people on .235...goodness**
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Make a guide if you will and state the proper steps to do so
I had one issue with. 232. I noticed the lock screen is useless. My home button unlicked the screen plus the notification bar scrolled down to unlock also lol. Other that that it amazing
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dblkspecial said:
I had one issue with. 232. I noticed the lock screen is useless. My home button unlicked the screen plus the notification bar scrolled down to unlock also lol. Other that that it amazing
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i noticed that the other day when I got a text while my screen was locked. I naturally pulled the notification bar down and noticed that I didn't unlock my phone at first. Tried it just now and it's unlocking without swiping to unlock. My home button doesn't do anything howerver.