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Hi guys,
I have a N1 and have moved from Froyo to Sense. My question, are there any Custom roms which have the best of both worlds?
Froyo features I like, Pattern unlock without having to swipe unlock first, shows charge levels when charging.
Sense features I like, Widgets, Music Player.
Is there a custom rom with best of both, or can you load the HTC apps onto Froyo independently?
Thanks in advance.
Plz ask in the q&a forum.
I don't think the Froyo Sense rom is stable yet.
I found this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
It has a black bar and is Froyo. It's pretty much a hacked stock build thats not bloated but rooted and ready for hacking.
player911 said:
I don't think the Froyo Sense rom is stable yet.
I found this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
It has a black bar and is Froyo. It's pretty much a hacked stock build thats not bloated but rooted and ready for hacking.
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It's what I use.
Cool, I'm on this now, liking it. Will check it for a while. Well liking the way that the Google account pulls down all your apps you have installed, can switch roms in minutes.
Its honestly all opinions my friend
That's like asking: Do you like chocolate cake? Cause I like vanilla. My mom likes carrot cake, and my dad. Well. My dad likes apple pie.
OrganizedFellow said:
That's like asking: Do you like chocolate cake? Cause I like vanilla. My mom likes carrot cake, and my dad. Well. My dad likes apple pie.
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Your mom and dad are wrong. Vanilla is obviously the way to go
EDIT: OP: I wouldn't mess with any available sense froyo roms for awhile. Try out vanilla froyo and when good sense froyo roms are available you can check them out then.
Hey.
Do you have a AT&T version or a T-Mob version?...
If you have an At&t version could you please disable the 3g data and just enable the wifi and test if the wireless keep alive when the phone go to sleep
Thx.
jim29 said:
Hi guys,
I have a N1 and have moved from Froyo to Sense. My question, are there any Custom roms which have the best of both worlds?
Froyo features I like, Pattern unlock without having to swipe unlock first, shows charge levels when charging.
Sense features I like, Widgets, Music Player.
Is there a custom rom with best of both, or can you load the HTC apps onto Froyo independently?
Thanks in advance.
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Many good ROM's to try out. Just start with a ROM, flash it, test it for a few days, if you don't like it, try another.
No ROM is better than the other, is all about personal taste. Many people praise Cyanogen's work, though i admit he does a good job on his work, i prefer a ROM more closer to stock then i just take a little from others and put it in in the one i use for my own personal taste.
Hi,
I traded my ZTE blade for an incredible S and boy what an incredible difference,
but i have a problem ..... :/
I don't like SENSE, so i'm looking for an AOSP as possible rom
I tried CM7, but all versions i tried (latest nightly, 7.1, older nightly) have problems with the camera :/ the image freezes, unless you rotate or select an option, then it moves again untill i stop using a setting or it has been rotated, and that is VERY annoying ....
also, when i install a tiamat kernell, the device hangs on the htc logo and does not boot .. I hoped that changing kernels would cure the problem
So I am looking for another rom to use, I want a stable, fully functional as AOSP as possible rom that is rooted and has an unlocked (overclockable) kernel
can someone point me in the right direction?
NB: i've been looking in the forums, but it's a lot of info and hard to find what i want ... I've been on MODACO the whole time i hade my blade, but for Incredible they have no lively community, so i'm putting my hopes on XDA
NB2: No need to tell me about S-off and how to install clockwork recovery, that has already been done
u don't like sense then go for android revolution hd..
it has an option to remove sense via no sense script..
it is most stable rom out there.
afaik, cm7 and miui are the only aosp roms available for our phone. someone correct me if i'm wrong.
one of the downsides of aosp roms for our phone is that the camera quality is not as good as sense roms. i've read that the reason for this is because htc has not released the code. until then, we are stuck with it. having said that, i've read that the miui camera is a bit better than the cm7 camera. you can try the miui rom or download the miui camera and try it with cm7.
Thank you for replying to my question.
I'm gonna go for Android revolution with Sense removed.
Actually I already did it, now all I need is an AOSP dialer to put in there, because the HTC dialer isn't really my thing.
Great phone by the way, i'm utterly impressed with everything so far
NB: the HTC camera app is awesome
You can try to use go launcher, or touchizwiz4 or any other custum launcher of all above doesn't do the job for you.
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then wth did u get the incredible s?
htc makes incredible s, htc makes sense.
you're not making any sense if u use aosp on a sense phone
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then wth did u get the incredible s?
htc makes incredible s, htc makes sense.
you're not making any sense if u use aosp on a sense phone
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Strange argument.
Raithmir said:
Strange argument.
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it's true
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it's true
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So if we want to use AOSP you're saying we should only buy a Nexus?
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So if we want to use AOSP you're saying we should only buy a Nexus?
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obviously. and a nexus's gpu is faster than incredible s
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obviously. and a nexus's gpu is faster than incredible s
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Why not wait for that new quad core HTC?
i was doubting between the nexus an the incredible.
but in the shop where i work (and where i get discount) we don't have the nexus
and the 8 MP camera did it for me. i never base my purchase on software, i just look at the hardware for android devices, then i turn to romswapping
now, does anyone know a good dialer from the market?
I want something similar to CM7 dialer, i tried installing it, but it f*** the phone
Oh.
And no offence, but saying that buying htc equals using sense is like saying you cant buy a windows computer and then put linux on it. Same thing
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a good dialer would be go dialer. basically go made most of everything.
go keyboard, go contacts,go sms, go dialer, go launcher.. etc etc
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ahh, but if u buy a windows pc, u can dual boot windows and linux. that makes it entirely different. a hybird i'd say. even if there's a dual booting program in android, it's still immature and can brick the phone anytime
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a good dialer would be go dialer. basically go made most of everything.
go keyboard, go contacts,go sms, go dialer, go launcher.. etc etc
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ahh, but if u buy a windows pc, u can dual boot windows and linux. that makes it entirely different. a hybird i'd say. even if there's a dual booting program in android, it's still immature and can brick the phone anytime
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That was just... stupid, some people actually buy a PC, reformats the HDD and then install a Linux dist, without dualbooting with Windows.
Are they stupid too?
No?
Didn't think so. Your argument sucks.
let's get back to phones..
for me selling point for htc phones is sense..you can argue as long as u want but it's d truth..that's y they r always looking to improve d sense and other's like samsung,motorola
are also trying to put a layer of there software on top of android.
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That was just... stupid, some people actually buy a PC, reformats the HDD and then install a Linux dist, without dualbooting with Windows.
Are they stupid too?
No?
Didn't think so. Your argument sucks.
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d people u r talking abt are programmers and app devs..not d casual user.
I've been dev'ing roms for the ZTE Blade and i been programming some android as well (not too much, just basic stuff). I'm not really a casual user.
It also wasn't my meaning to go dissin' Sense. I just happen to not like it. So I bought a phone after I checked that it was CM7 compatible, which the Incredible is, but unfortunatly the camera is broken on all non Sense Roms (CM7 and MIUI (tried both))
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d people u r talking abt are programmers and app devs..not d casual user.
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I was only trying to make a point, which I obviously failed with, so I'll just write my point in clear-text:
His argument is stupid, and he doesn't realize it.
Psyloid said:
I've been dev'ing roms for the ZTE Blade and i been programming some android as well (not too much, just basic stuff). I'm not really a casual user.
It also wasn't my meaning to go dissin' Sense. I just happen to not like it. So I bought a phone after I checked that it was CM7 compatible, which the Incredible is, but unfortunatly the camera is broken on all non Sense Roms (CM7 and MIUI (tried both))
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Weird, for me the camera in CM7 (using a nightly, dunno which one though) works pretty good. Sure it lags if it's bad lightning, but I've never had a cellphone with a camera that's good enough so I can use it if it's dark...
But I can't compare with how it's in a Sense ROM, haven't been using a Sense ROM since I realized how unnecessery all the stuff from Sense is for me
@mandeep
thank you for making my point clear.
@splux
implying yourself that you failed to make your point clear, how can you tell my argument is stupid? it is actually you who failed to understand what i am pointing out. well you see, there is no point in getting a phone which runs primarily on sense. htc made phones with sense. and to run aosp on a sense phone is like playing mario on a dual gtx 590 pc computer.
ah, and yes. i agree that people who buys windows pc and run linux without dualbooting are developers, more to the networking sector. they arent stupid, but rather smart. because in linux, 95% of viruses wont affect your work, as they're written for windows only. so your argument is invalid.
by saying my argument is rather stupid, you made a fool out of yourself without realizing it.
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Weird, for me the camera in CM7 (using a nightly, dunno which one though) works pretty good. Sure it lags if it's bad lightning, but I've never had a cellphone with a camera that's good enough so I can use it if it's dark...
But I can't compare with how it's in a Sense ROM, haven't been using a Sense ROM since I realized how unnecessery all the stuff from Sense is for me
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I tried Cm7 older nightly, latest nightly and stable 7.1 and MIUI and all of them freeze the preview image of the camera on the screen, unless i rotate it or touch the settings, then the image moves, but it freezes again, the moment i stop touching the settings or when the rotation sequence is done .... strange isn't it ?
Also, when i flash a Tiamat kernel the device hangs on the HBOOT .... I have a 1.13 device, maybe thats it. Anyway, I just spent the last hours customizing the Android revolution zip file to my taste (since i have some ROM knowledge)
I got rid of most of the sense stuff (Hope i did not delete too much, hehe) and replaced some apps, removed bloatware and changed bootanim. Just the dialer is bugging me, but i'll have a look at godialer, i bet i find smth that suits me
Still too bad i cant use CM7 I really love it, but one of the key points of buying this phone was the camera, so if it's useless on CM7, I have to ditch it for another rom ....
when the nexus s was released i was a god send for galaxy s devs because they had all they stuff they need (source) to have a very good implementation of cm7
when the galaxy s2 was released it was hell for devs they ended up signing a petition with +10000 signatures just to get the kernel source and that took them over 6 months or so (as far as i can remember )
now with the HTC one almost as the same as the nexus 4's hardware , no ?
are there big architectural changes?
could they use stuff from the nexus 4 to make cm10.1 work flawlessly ?
The hardware of the n4 and the one are very very very different , so it won't benefit from the n4.
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Why did you think a HTC built phone would benefit from a LG built phone.
The soc isnt even in the same Series Never mind all the camera changes. There nothing alike
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An open SoC from QC is a step in the right direction, however sense kernels are quite different from those needed for CM/AOSP roms, so it's unlikely it will be perfect. The HOX still has niggles with CM today because some of the blobs just don't play along with non-sense roms.
These days if you want decent CM, I think you just need to buy a Nexus. If only the N4 were better I'd buy one...
Currently tossing up between this phone and the Xperia Z, if I get this it'll be under the mindset that i'll probably be running sense on it forever (annoyingly).
M.
what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
CursiveQ said:
what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
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It's personal preference. CM10 roms are typically alot smaller and tend to use less ram so can aid device performance. Some people also just like running a rom like they would get on a nexus. Of course this all depends on CM10/10.1 being decent on the phone.. if it doesn't work well because of sense kernels, then it's not really worth it.
If you want to run excellent CM roms, I would suggest waiting until kernel sources are out and see what devs can do, or just buy a nexus (though there's no nexus as good as the One).
i'm currently running aokp on my One X. the only real reason i flash roms is so i can have the status bar, settings, dialer, phonebook etc look like stock android.
is it possible to have a sense based rom that will be skinned to look like stock android? with the status bar, settings, dialer and all that jazz?
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i'm currently running aokp on my One X. the only real reason i flash roms is so i can have the status bar, settings, dialer, phonebook etc look like stock android.
is it possible to have a sense based rom that will be skinned to look like stock android? with the status bar, settings, dialer and all that jazz?
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Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
M.
mattman83 said:
Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
M.
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ah.. bummer. i really hated the sense dialer
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Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
M.
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I would disagree with that to a point. I've used sense ROMs where, when you push AOSP contacts.apk to /system/app, you get get AOSP dialer and contacts. Same with mail is possible, if I remember correctly. I've even seen the AOSP settings used in sense (though, it may have been just themed that way) in jellybomb domination ROM. I forget exactly, it's been a while. I run just AOKP or PACman on my Evo lte. I buy HTC for the hardware, not the software. But, sense 5 is intriguing and seems to resemble AOSP more than in the past, but with the blink feed and Zoe (which is what I do find intriguing).
From my Evo LTE, yup.
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what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
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in cm your're guaranteed to miss out on some key features. For instance, with the HTC EVO 4g LTE (and the one x and all its variants as far as i know), CM cannot incorporate the sense based cameras into the rom, so your're really getting something like 70% of the image quality because nobody's been able to figure out how to use the separate, Sense-designated optics hardware with an aosp rom. You're obviously missing out on hmdi/mhl out so forget about connecting to your tv. There are issues with using mass storage from sdcard (probably not going to be a problem here though), amongst others.
CM is on the other hand, generally more customizable and smoother to run than sense based roms, but there are some sense roms (like VIPER 4G 3.X) that are imo right on par with CMX when it comes to great custom experience yet do not omit important hardware features.
Hi all, is this possible yet? I never had the intention of using Sense UI, i purchased the phone with the intension of flashing stock android. Am i a little early to the party?
thanks!
I flashed cm10.1 today to check it out, and it works, although HTC sense is much faster and smoother. In fact the One is faster and smoother than the Nexus 4. I'd forgotten how ugly and featureless stock android was.
In answer to your question, CM is in alpha but is Ok with some bugs.
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I flashed cm10.1 today to check it out, and it works, although HTC sense is much faster and smoother. In fact the One is faster and smoother than the Nexus 4. I'd forgotten how ugly and featureless stock android was.
In answer to your question, CM is in alpha but is Ok with some bugs.
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Where did you flash CM 10.1 from?
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I flashed cm10.1 today to check it out, and it works, although HTC sense is much faster and smoother. In fact the One is faster and smoother than the Nexus 4. I'd forgotten how ugly and featureless stock android was.
In answer to your question, CM is in alpha but is Ok with some bugs.
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I wouldn't say ugly and featureless. Just minimal and reliable IMO. The current Sense is the only skin I have ever liked. I just put up with previous ones and put up with stock Android before ICS.
There are a few ROMs available in the original Android development forum. Bunch of stuff doesn't work yet though. I didn't intend to use sense either but it's actually smooth, nice and functional. I may even stay on it when there's a stable AOSP ROM. And I LOVE AOSP. It's so PRETTY. But this sense is actually really nice.
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Thanks for the replies.
I really haven't given Sense5 even a try yet, but i really would prefer just to stick with vanilla.
So a custom ROM especially for vanilla would have to be made?
Hey there,
i'm having my HTC for around 2 months now and never hold a senserom more than 15 minutes.
So, no matter on what forum i look, sense roms are much more popular and famous than GPE or even CM roms.
With my older Phones (Galaxy ace, Galaxy S plus, Galaxy S3) CM roms were (or still are) more popular, but on the HTC sense roms are much more popular. Whats the point?
I mean.. ok no doubt, the sense camera is awesome! But blinkfeed? Who needs it? Or at least who is using it?
Other than that.. Beats audio? GPE Rom has it too, just without the icon on the statusbar.
GPE Roms are faster and not full of bloat (IMO!)
So what's the real point behind this?
It's NOT a fighting thread or a thread like "OMG! Sense roms suck QQ mimimi" NO! I just want to know why you guys like sense roms much more? I'm just curious
I prefer the UI, being able to arrange my apps in folders without using the home screen. I actually use BlinkFeed quite a for my technology/science news.
I don't really find any bloat.
Most people buy HTC because of Sense, atleast I do. I prefer HTC's style over any other oem's.
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xxquicksh0txx said:
Most people buy HTC because of Sense, atleast I do. I prefer HTC's style over any other oem's.
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kewkie said:
Hey there,
i'm having my HTC for around 2 months now and never hold a senserom more than 15 minutes.
So, no matter on what forum i look, sense roms are much more popular and famous than GPE or even CM roms.
With my older Phones (Galaxy ace, Galaxy S plus, Galaxy S3) CM roms were (or still are) more popular, but on the HTC sense roms are much more popular. Whats the point?
I mean.. ok no doubt, the sense camera is awesome! But blinkfeed? Who needs it? Or at least who is using it?
Other than that.. Beats audio? GPE Rom has it too, just without the icon on the statusbar.
GPE Roms are faster and not full of bloat (IMO!)
So what's the real point behind this?
It's NOT a fighting thread or a thread like "OMG! Sense roms suck QQ mimimi" NO! I just want to know why you guys like sense roms much more? I'm just curious
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For me I just like it due to the fact its something different. My last 3 devices have had things like CM, SlimBean, etc. which are all more or less stock. I feel sense is minimal enough that its still snappy (not like touchwiz IMO) and I kind of like the sense lock screen on how it displays information. Thats just my opinion at least
I prefer aosp roms too. But WiFi calling is a must for me, and no other carrier has better rates.
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This thread is the equivalent of saying "why do people like different stuff than me"
Short answer: aosp got boring.
Long
Had gs2. Cm was the only way to get on point android updates that year.
Sense 5+ has been great and HTC is really on the ball with updates this year.
kewkie said:
Hey there,
i'm having my HTC for around 2 months now and never hold a senserom more than 15 minutes.
So, no matter on what forum i look, sense roms are much more popular and famous than GPE or even CM roms.
With my older Phones (Galaxy ace, Galaxy S plus, Galaxy S3) CM roms were (or still are) more popular, but on the HTC sense roms are much more popular. Whats the point?
I mean.. ok no doubt, the sense camera is awesome! But blinkfeed? Who needs it? Or at least who is using it?
Other than that.. Beats audio? GPE Rom has it too, just without the icon on the statusbar.
GPE Roms are faster and not full of bloat (IMO!)
So what's the real point behind this?
It's NOT a fighting thread or a thread like "OMG! Sense roms suck QQ mimimi" NO! I just want to know why you guys like sense roms much more? I'm just curious
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For starters Beats sounds a lot better on Sense roms to my ears, also stock Sense is pretty fluid if I'm being honest. GPE roms are faster in a sense but the difference is hardly noticeable and in fact I find the stock sense gallery to be a lot smoother than the stock gallery on the GPE roms. I have a lot of photos and whilst there isn't any lag on Sense I find a bit of lag in the stock gallery.
In regards to Samsung phones, CM was popular because people grew sick of how bloated Touchwiz is. Sense is of course larger than any GPE rom but they really nailed it in terms of speed, and its certainly faster than Touchwiz. I also find the battery life on GPE roms to be worse than on Stock sense. I'm currently on Sinless (GPE rom) and it's fast, like all other GPE roms. Still, I miss the Sense gallery, loudspeaker quality, longer battery life and data speed (my data is a bit slower on GPE roms).
I'm in the middle by the way. I switch roms quite often (from Sinless, to Insertcoin to ViperOne) and each version has their own pro's and cons but I certainly don't feel like I really really need to flash a GPE rom or CM unlike when I had my Galaxy S3
Thanks guys
And for the troll.. no its not "why do people like different stuff than me"... read the first post again, ty..
@Galactus Really? well, i never noticed the faster data speed, but what i noticed is that i got a more stable data, on GPE roms i have all 4 full bars.. on sense roms i have like 2-3 bars.. dont know why :/ using latest sense firmware.
Anyways, thanks again
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Thanks guys
And for the troll.. no its not "why do people like different stuff than me"... read the first post again, ty..
@Galactus Really? well, i never noticed the faster data speed, but what i noticed is that i got a more stable data, on GPE roms i have all 4 full bars.. on sense roms i have like 2-3 bars.. dont know why :/ using latest sense firmware.
Anyways, thanks again
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Best way to check is using an app or going into settings, about, status and seeing if your actually getting worse signal or not. My signal is the same on both but data definitely seems a bit faster (with less latency) on Sense roms
I really can't live without the sense camera. I fell in love with GPE, but the camera is a huge part of my smartphone use so had to revert to sense. If someone could port the sense camera again then I would spend all my time on GPE!
I check Blinkfeed like 3 times a day. I thinks it's very good
the reason i wont change is because i love blinkfeed ,it brings some animation to a boring otherwise OS ,i have tried every latest phone available and find the HTC One the best.
westentertainer said:
the reason i wont change is because i love blinkfeed ,it brings some animation to a boring otherwise OS ,i have tried every latest phone available and find the HTC One the best.
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+1 I love HTC's Sense and the One's hardware + build quality. I believe to be a perfect phone!
You will get a thousand different reasons from many people. Sense is more popular then say TouchWiz from samsung due to it being far more fluid. Htc Started on Sense long before android came to light so it is a bit more polished to some. But just like TW it adds features to the device that some people like.
On that note thread closed.