basically i want to get a tmobile prepaid payasyougo plan with 1000 minutes for $100. i was looking for gsm phones and found the G1. i would like to know if i buy a new G1 on ebay for like $100 will i be able to just put the tmobile sim card inside and activate the phone? or do i need to get a tmobile sim card with a data plan on it? basically i want to know if i can use the G1 for just voice calls on a prepaid sim card. i also would like to know if i can use the wifi to connect to my router, or is that blocked unless i have a data plan? are any features in the G1 disabled if i put in a sim card without a data plan? i plan on using the G1 for only voice calls and browsing the web on my home wifi. can this be done on this phone? thanks for your help in advance
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Google_Login_via_a_WiFi_Connection
There ya go
Btw, I wouldn't pay 100 for a G1. I got mine for 15 bucks used.
if your g1 isnt rooted than no, the stock g1 wont let you sign in without a plan unless you borrow someone's sim card set it up and then change out sims, what you want to do is get one, root it (probably need someones card to do this) flash a rom (many are far better then stock) and when it comes time to sign in it wont madder what tmobile sim car you have in there. and if you unlock the phone you can put in just about any sim card (rooting will not unlock the phone) good luck! oh by the way if you cant borrow a card, try to buy one that is allready rooted for you, if you check ebay you'll be sure to find one, hell i sell some on ebay that are ready to go. oh and yes you can use wifi.
I got a G1 from stock no sim to cm6 working fully...all without sim
The thing I posted above does NOT need root...
You may have to downgrade, but that doesn't need root...
Try the following...on the emergency dialer type <enter>reboot<enter>
If it reboots congrats, the wifi thing will work
If not, you need to downgrade....but don't worry its not too hard
I can help you through it most likely
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The easiest way is to type in on google "how to bypass google login on g1 the unlockr" tells you everything step by step
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Howdy,
I currently have a Cingular 8125 and for the last year I've been using an unlimited data plan for $19.95. I think this data plan is only for cell phones (not PDA phones) and I honestly can't remember how I managed to pull this off. I think my last phone was a cell phone and they just transfered the plan over.
Problem is that when I buy the AT&T Tilt, I'm assuming they'll only offer me the unlimited PDA data plan, which is much more expensive.
So here's the question - any reason why I can't just pop out my existing SIM card and move it over? Do I need a new SIM card for the 3G functionality? Any way to move over my existing data plan?
I remember purchasing the Cingular 8125 a long time ago w/ a medianet plan I believe $19.99. The representative didn't mention anything about unlimited PDA data plan. So if you still have the $19.99 media plan, you should be fine with it if using the Tilt. I guess it all comes down to how much you use their data...
If your existing sim card is 3g capable stating that you got it last year, I'm guessing toward the end of the year, then you should be fine. If not, you will need to obtain a new 3g sim card from ATT...
hope this helps you...
at last a question i can answer lol.
There are a few ways to go about this
1. buy the kaiser/tilt/8925 outright pop in your sim ATT wont change a thing as they dont track the phone u are using for the most part
2. you can try to do a upgrade to get it cheaper the only problem with this is if you run into someone who is doing there job and checking to make sure you have the correct stuff for your plan. if you go about this route when you go into do a upgrade just tell them you want to upgrade your phone sign a new contract but you dont want anything changed on your plan. most times this will work.
other then that thats about it. Only other thing is you do need a 3g sim if yours is not already it will say right on it if its 3g or not. At a ATT store they norm give them away with upgrades as well as at places like radioshack. ATT sometimes will give you a new free sim if you say yours is lost or not working other places like RS just charge you 25 as thats what ATT charges them for them.
magnamar said:
at last a question i can answer lol.
There are a few ways to go about this
1. buy the kaiser/tilt/8925 outright pop in your sim ATT wont change a thing as they dont track the phone u are using for the most part
2. you can try to do a upgrade to get it cheaper the only problem with this is if you run into someone who is doing there job and checking to make sure you have the correct stuff for your plan. if you go about this route when you go into do a upgrade just tell them you want to upgrade your phone sign a new contract but you dont want anything changed on your plan. most times this will work.
other then that thats about it. Only other thing is you do need a 3g sim if yours is not already it will say right on it if its 3g or not. At a ATT store they norm give them away with upgrades as well as at places like radioshack. ATT sometimes will give you a new free sim if you say yours is lost or not working other places like RS just charge you 25 as thats what ATT charges them for them.
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Cool - just checked my SIM card and it says '3G' on the back. I was going to upgrade to the Tilt via my corporate Web site, but that will force me to set up a whole new plan w/ the unlimited PDA package. Instead I'll try calling AT&T and doing the upgrade over the phone. I'll post back here to let you know if it worked.
Thanks for the info!
You can change it at any time....
On the AT&T account maintenance website, you can change your data plan to the Unlimited MEdiaNet for $19.95 if they make you sign up for a PDA plan when you get your Tilt. I did it last week.
jakirkla said:
On the AT&T account maintenance website, you can change your data plan to the Unlimited MEdiaNet for $19.95 if they make you sign up for a PDA plan when you get your Tilt. I did it last week.
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Which site is that - just the main AT&T wireless site where you view your account details? And it lets you change to MediaNet, even if you have a PDA? Nice....
I am a customer with Rogers of Canada ...
got a free/unactivated SIM card ( came with my S621 ) ... I kept on using my old card from way back.
This new free card that came with the S621...it doesn't say "3G" on it ... just the Rogers symbol and 5 lines of 4 digits codes on the left side ...
when flip over to other side ( the gold contact side ) ... it said " HSDPA" ... what does that equivalent to ??
Found the answer to my "HSDPA" question:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
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I have a question ...
I've been using the old card for the last few years .. this card does not have the HSPDA/3G imprinted on it ... but if I want to switch and let's say I told them my old card is damaged and wanted to use this new highspeed capable card ... will there be activation charges ??
other then what's labeled ... both card look exactly the same on the gold side
jakirkla said:
On the AT&T account maintenance website, you can change your data plan to the Unlimited MEdiaNet for $19.95 if they make you sign up for a PDA plan when you get your Tilt. I did it last week.
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I tried that, got a confirmation email, but the service never activated.
When I called AT&T they said that that service was not available for me because I had a PDA phone and I shouldn't have been able to select it, much less get a confirmation email.
Tried it again two weeks later and the same thing happened.
just got a G1 with me. i dont have a t-mobile sim with me, but i know the first thing the phone goes to is to set up a gmail account. is there anyway round this?
would it work if i got a normal sim and just put credit on it, like say £10, and then the phone will just use up the credit to register with a gmail account? or do you have to absoloutely have some sort of special plan? i put in my blyk sim with an x-sim IV and it accepted the sim, thinking it was a t-mobile sim. but i dont have any credit on the sim so the connection times out, was thinking of putting some credit on the sim to see if it will connect?
cant you do the setup over wifi? but i cant get into any menus to set it up?
if you absoloutely have to get a bloody t-mobile web'n'walk plan then that, in my opinion, is just as bad as the whol apple ipone thing, what a rip, i'll be selling the phone then.
but if anyone know of how to get around this or if it'll work off credit, then please let me know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316
i love you.
well i type in reboot and nothing happens oh well i guess its time to sell it, but do you know if it would be possible to activate over normal credit on your sim or does it have to have a special t-mobile data plan?
Zub7 said:
well i type in reboot and nothing happens oh well i guess its time to sell it, but do you know if it would be possible to activate over normal credit on your sim or does it have to have a special t-mobile data plan?
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Search is your friend. The phone does not require TMo.
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well i used search and got nowhere. i found one thread about not needing a t-mob data plan but it requires access to the phones APN settings which i dont have
APN settings are available by pressing the menu button when in the setup. Can't remember if is right at the "Touch the android" or not. Just search the forum to get the needed APN settings for your carrier.
There are APN setting of different carriers in this thread
The way I did it without a data plan was to get someone that has a data plan and insert their Tmobile sim card in your G1. After you are able to log in, go into setting->data synch, and uncheck everything. Now you are able to use your Sim card and access the phone without the gmail authentication.
I've been thinking to get a g1 soon because now they will be a little cheaper because of the release of the mytouch 3g. I don't plan on getting the data plan because i dont need it. (please dont ask why)
I've read this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316) by JesusFreke on how to "How to register the G1 without a sim or data plan". It states you need RC29, RC30 modded version or any earlier version.
My question is lets say i have RC 33, can i download the update for RC28, rename it to update.zip and update my phone that way so i can register it through wifi?
I plan on getting the updates though http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=OTA_Updates.
Thanks
bug666 said:
I've been thinking to get a g1 soon because now they will be a little cheaper because of the release of the mytouch 3g. I don't plan on getting the data plan because i dont need it. (please dont ask why)
I've read this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316) by JesusFreke on how to "How to register the G1 without a sim or data plan". It states you need RC29, RC30 modded version or any earlier version.
My question is lets say i have RC 33, can i download the update for RC28, rename it to update.zip and update my phone that way so i can register it through wifi?
I plan on getting the updates though http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=OTA_Updates.
Thanks
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When you flash the rc29 image you would go into bootloader cam + power which looks for the .nbh file instead of update.zip.
so in simple terms, yes it will work?
I've updated my friends g1 with the official tmobile 1.5 update which i got on the web before them
so im guessing it will be the same process?
Yes it will work.
are you a t-mobile us costumer? Then you HAVE to get a data plan. I don't even think T-Mo will subsidize a G1 without it, so unless you're planning to get an unlocked one... Also, when you get it, and if you somehow manage to get it without a data plan, you still have to activate it, and guess what, that requires you to have a data connection. Lastly, if you do manage to get that (just use somebody's sim that has a g1 data plan), you're going to have to ask yourself, now what do I do with it? The phone, w/o a data plan, is only good for music, or phone calls, or pictures. No gmail, no market, no picture messaging, you might as well get a motorola
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are you a t-mobile us costumer? Then you HAVE to get a data plan. I don't even think T-Mo will subsidize a G1 without it, so unless you're planning to get an unlocked one... Also, when you get it, and if you somehow manage to get it without a data plan, you still have to activate it, and guess what, that requires you to have a data connection. Lastly, if you do manage to get that (just use somebody's sim that has a g1 data plan), you're going to have to ask yourself, now what do I do with it? The phone, w/o a data plan, is only good for music, or phone calls, or pictures. No gmail, no market, no picture messaging, you might as well get a motorola
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Now that's not entirely true... If you live around places where you are connected via WiFi most of the time, you won't even notice (I don't have a data plan so I know...) There are guides on how to register without SIM or data plan, and I got an unlocked G1 for $150, which is comparable to some of the deals on G1s with 2yr plan.
But he is right about the picture messaging, unless you have a data plan for that, you won't receive them. I have a 1MB plan with AT&T and just added their APN manually and I get picture messages no problem.
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Now that's not entirely true... If you live around places where you are connected via WiFi most of the time, you won't even notice (I don't have a data plan so I know...) There are guides on how to register without SIM or data plan, and I got an unlocked G1 for $150, which is comparable to some of the deals on G1s with 2yr plan.
But he is right about the picture messaging, unless you have a data plan for that, you won't receive them. I have a 1MB plan with AT&T and just added their APN manually and I get picture messages no problem.
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Wow $150? Man I got mine used for $250 locked. (I'm getting an unlock code though hopefully)
I also use my G1 w/o a data plan because I have Wifi everywhere I go. Yes, you can activate it over Wifi. I don't know about MMS/Text because I don't use them. Emails good enough for me
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Wow $150? Man I got mine used for $250 locked. (I'm getting an unlock code though hopefully)
I also use my G1 w/o a data plan because I have Wifi everywhere I go. Yes, you can activate it over Wifi. I don't know about MMS/Text because I don't use them. Emails good enough for me
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yeah, bought it off craigslist.
You can only activate over WiFi if you use the guide on how to do it, or if you use one of the ROMs with that feature built in... the default ROM will force you to activate using data (I added my APN for that). Texting works without problems, but MMS(aka Picture Messaging) requires data, WiFi will not work for it.
If I buy a used G1 on ebay, can my neighbor just put her sim card in it without any web plan? She has a regular voice and text plan on T-Mobile with a cracker jack nokia flip phone and it's a hassle for her to send and receive texts. I figured she can get a phone with a keyboard and make her life easier.
Does she have to turn anything off so she doesn't get charged for web service?
without a data plan its gonna be hard to get past the activiation screen.
all she would need to do is
get a sim with someone who has data,
go through the setup creating her own gmail account
then when she;s at the home screen power off and swap sims again.
she wont have internet but the basics will work!
I have an iPhone on T-Mobile with data. So I can use my sim and put it in her G1 and where do I find the next steps in activating everything?
no sim = unpassable NO SIM screen.
sim without data = activation/learn how to use screen, cant continue after wanting to create gmail account
sim with data = get to step above but it will create the account and allow you through to the home screen.
so yes, as long as the sim has data, she should be ale to activate.
just remember to tell her that the phone is much more fun with data ;D
Thanks. Once I get her to see how much fun and easier to use a smart phone is I'm sure she'll eventually get a data plan.
actually I think the only way to get pass it is with a android data plan, Im not sure of the other data plans t-mobile has.
But I have had my G1 for a year w/o data.I got 5MB of free data when I bought it so you can try it even though your getting it used.I still had this problem when I was rooting it though because I had to log-in without the data.I did by going through the adb shell or something its kind of difficult.
Maybe someone else can give you more information
Ok I got it and I installed the sim card from my iPhone. I went through the activation process and I created a generic gmail account and have been using the G1 for the last 30 minutes. Have it also working through the wifi at home too.
Now I have to install her sim to see what happens.
Download APN droid so that her phone doesn't connect to data services. They will charge her per MB if she doesn't.
I got pretty good at modifying the iPhone and next week I have to learn the EVO. I hope what I learn with this G1 I can use with the EVO later!
I went into MARKET on the G1 and searched APN and all I got was APN Italy and APN Movilphone. Where do I get APN DROID and how do I install it?
The app's name is "APNdroid" by martin adamek. It's in the market.
I must be doing something wrong. I'm going into the market and searching for APNdroid and it keeps telling me
There are no matches in Android Market for the search : APNdroid
Do I have to be rooted or jailbroken or is it another Market not the one on the stock G1 ? Do I have to do it while connected on the cellphone or can I do it over wifi?
I'm not an idiot, I mean how hard is it to do a search, but this is making me nuts!!
OK Now I know what happened. I've been playing with the G1 since yesterday but for some reason today it decided to update its version. It asked if I wanted to update it and I said yes. Apparently the previous owner had never updated it. I now have a way prettier and more modern looking Market and it found the app quickly when I searched for it.
I installed the app and it's working great. I knew I couldn't be that dumb!
Thanks a lot for your patience.
I just got straight talk working on my ATT Note 3. (SMS, MMS, data, calls inbound and outbound working) But I heard that the SIM card is locked to that phone forever. And I heard that flashing a new ROM will make it where the card won't activate on the new ROM. Then i would have to spend the money and buy a new card Is this true? or is this with the IMEI only? also I can't seem to check my data usage on Straight Talk. When I text 611611 "usage" it force closes the phone. I'm thinking it could be the ROM so that's why I was discussing about how safe it is to swap ROMS on straight talk and if they can be re-activated after a ROM flash.
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I just got straight talk working on my ATT Note 3. (SMS, MMS, data, calls inbound and outbound working) But I heard that the SIM card is locked to that phone forever. And I heard that flashing a new ROM will make it where the card won't activate on the new ROM. Then i would have to spend the money and buy a new card Is this true? or is this with the IMEI only? also I can't seem to check my data usage on Straight Talk. When I text 611611 "usage" it force closes the phone. I'm thinking it could be the ROM so that's why I was discussing about how safe it is to swap ROMS on straight talk and if they can be re-activated after a ROM flash.
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the regional unlock thread has the side affect of unlocking the sim as well"you wont need this except if you want to travel international ". And changing the rom has no affect on your already activated sim you just have to re-enter the apn settings into the new rom. And your sim chip is portable from one at&t phone to another as long as it will fit in the phones sim chip slot. So no you wont need a new sim card if you change roms. I really wouldn't advise you to change roms tho. If you don't know what you're doing you could brick your phone.
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the regional unlock thread has the side affect of unlocking the sim as well"you wont need this except if you want to travel international ". And changing the rom has no affect on your already activated sim you just have to re-enter the apn settings into the new rom. And your sim chip is portable from one at&t phone to another as long as it will fit in the phones sim chip slot. So no you wont need a new sim card if you change roms. I really wouldn't advise you to change roms tho. If you don't know what you're doing you could brick your phone.
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much appreciated! and i've been rooting and flashing since the HTC thunderbolt debuted...so I think I know what i'm doing
this is the first time of me being on a pre-paid carrier so I wanted to be sure I wouldn't screw myself. Thanks Again!
I swapped out my room two days after going with straight talk and all I had to do was re enter my apn settings
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I have straight talk and I have switched roms no problem.
I'm currently off contract and using "Go Phone" by AT&T...No apns change ..works flawless...45 bucks..unlimited talk, text,mms.video mms...1gb data...