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Goodbye Kaiser...Hello Diamond

Just got it today...WOW What a phone....and works on At&t
see ya later kaiser
Mike

Bye.
Don't leave sad, just leave.
Have fun without your SD Card slot.

Good news for you. So did you get the 850 and 1900 gsm and 3g frequencies or just the 1900?

have fun with no 3g/hsdpa because itonly runs on 2100 until att wins the auction for 850 (IF and when they decide to go for it) it wont be of much use on the net

Not to spoil your party..but are the fingerprints on the back cover,..messy?
Having said that,...Diamonds are forever...
Keep us updated on the pros and cons..
Cheers.

So far things are fine
One thing I do think is true is that 3G works on my Diamond everything is set to auto and I called HTC and they said that 3G works fine in Illinois but certain parts of Florida, Texas, California have trouble with 3G ......I do miss the sliding keyboard tho......texting is slower because everything is Touch now....I'll have to get used to it / which I'am
Peace
Mike

mike19722 said:
One thing I do think is true is that 3G works on my Diamond everything is set to auto and I called HTC and they said that 3G works fine in Illinois but certain parts of Florida, Texas, California have trouble with 3G ......I do miss the sliding keyboard tho......texting is slower because everything is Touch now....I'll have to get used to it / which I'am
Peace
Mike
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what's all this then?
How can 3g work in America when the diamond does not have the bands for supporting American 3g frequencies...

i'm still waitting on the touch pro...

Subversive Asset 2.0 said:
what's all this then?
How can 3g work in America when the diamond does not have the bands for supporting American 3g frequencies...
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Because AT&T uses different frequencies in different areas. He may be in an area where AT&T runs on a frequency supported by the Diamond.

GSM networks in North and South America operate at frequencies of 850 or 1900 MHz, while most networks in other countries operate at frequencies of 900 or 1800 MHz. AT&T recommends quad band phones/devices for most international travelers. Since these wireless devices operate on all four of the international GSM frequencies, you ensure the broadest international coverage available.
​According to AT&T.
Specifically, 3g runs on 1900.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong (please do, because I want to like the diamond :]), but the diamond has radio updates that all it to work quadband for EDGE, but for 3g, it only has support for 900 and 2100 MHz bands...neither of which AT&T run *anywhere* in America.
Is that correct?

Why did you switch ? Just curious. Something new?

lifanus said:
i'm still waitting on the touch pro...
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I second that...

this was from a reseller:
Congrats, nice to know it works in illinois
Processor Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 MHz
Operating System Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Memory ROM: 256 MB
RAM: 192 MB DDR SDRAM
Internal storage: 4 GB
Dimensions 102 mm (L) X 51 mm (W) X 11.5 mm (T)
Weight 110 g (with battery)
Display 2.8-inch TFT-LCD flat touch-sensitive screen with VGA resolution
Network HSDPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent.)
Device Control TouchFLO 3D
Touch-sensitive navigation control
GPS GPS and A-GPS ready
Connectivity Bluetooth 2.0 with EDR
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB 2.0 and audio jack in one)
Camera Main camera: 3.2 megapixel color camera with auto focus
Second camera: VGA CMOS color camera
Audio Built-in microphone, speaker and FM radio with RDS
Ring tone supported formats:
MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, WAV, and AMR-NB
40 polyphonic and Standard MIDI format 0 and 1 (SMF)/SP MIDI
Battery Rechargeable Lithium-ion or Lithium-ion polymer battery
Capacity: 900 mAh
Talk time:
Up to 270 minutes for WCDMA
Up to 330 minutes for GSM
Standby time:
Up to 396 hours for WCDMA
Up to 285 hours for GSM
Video call time: Up to 145 minutes for WCDMA
(The above are subject to network and phone usage.)
AC Adapter Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60 Hz
DC output: 5V and 1A
Subversive Asset 2.0 said:
GSM networks in North and South America operate at frequencies of 850 or 1900 MHz, while most networks in other countries operate at frequencies of 900 or 1800 MHz. AT&T recommends quad band phones/devices for most international travelers. Since these wireless devices operate on all four of the international GSM frequencies, you ensure the broadest international coverage available.
​According to AT&T.
Specifically, 3g runs on 1900.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong (please do, because I want to like the diamond :]), but the diamond has radio updates that all it to work quadband for EDGE, but for 3g, it only has support for 900 and 2100 MHz bands...neither of which AT&T run *anywhere* in America.
Is that correct?
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I just bought my Tilt, so it feels kind of weird to have people saying good bye to it so fast. Hopefully ill like it..

acehole said:
Congrats, nice to know it works in illinois
*snip*
Network HSDPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent.)
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In other words, like I thought, 3g *should not* work.
So if it does, why?

I can't 3G works!?!?
I don't know.....top of screen says 3G with 2 or 3 bars......I switched devices because I love touch flow and had the money to buy it. It does switch alot from EDGE to GSM and 3G ...I have to admit tho that it's on EDGE 90% of the time.
Peace
Mike

mike19722 said:
I don't know.....top of screen says 3G with 2 or 3 bars......I switched devices because I love touch flow and had the money to buy it.
Peace
Mike
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Ah and that was the only reason? No performance issues with the Kaiser right?
Sounds good dude.

mike19722 said:
I don't know.....top of screen says 3G with 2 or 3 bars......I switched devices because I love touch flow and had the money to buy it. It does switch alot from EDGE to GSM and 3G ...I have to admit tho that it's on EDGE 90% of the time.
Peace
Mike
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i am also waiting on the touch pro, but congrats on the diamond. now all i wish is that us kaiser users can get touchflo 3d to work on our devices using the new 3d drivers...
edit: i have tw questions to ask you about the diamond:
1. hows the battery life?
2. is touchflo 3d really as cool as people think it is?

Why wouldn't 1900 work, I would understand if 850 or 2100 did not
The video call won't because it is not supported on att but could be used as a web cam right?

Hell, id be waiting for the Touch Pro too if it wouldn't cost 800$ plus.

Upgrade the radio software to connect 3G

Hello to all. Bought a week ago TD2 released in New York to use it in Brazil, net 3G of the operator Claro. It happens here in Brazil operates in the TD2 not 3G for data transmission and is always in EDGE mode, although there is availability of the 3G network. I heard that HTC has limitations in the software radio to create niche selling to carriers, so the same hardware, with tables of frequency band, or can not work on different carriers using the same frequency of band. I ask if the exchange of software to radio TD2 can make it recognize the 3G network.
Thanks in advance
Websailor

Claro uses the 850/1900 MHz band for 3G.
You've probably bought the European version of the TD2 which only supports 900/2100 MHz bands.
This is defined by hardware - you can't change it by flashing a different radio.

hi
In my D2 i hav settings for 3g 900 and 3g 2100 band!!!

hi
In my D2 i hav settings for 3g 900 and 3g 2100 band!!!

fpow said:
In my D2 i hav settings for 3g 900 and 3g 2100 band!!!
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Great! Mine too! Every other TD2 currently out there as well...

[Q] help me choose please!

Should I buy a captivate or a i9000 galaxy s?
It is for the use in the netherlands but I heard the captivate had some more specs..
Thanks in advance!

Galaxy S and captivate are pretty similar.
i9000 has front camera (if you use it), physical back button, better support (more users) and you are more likely to have warranty support in the Netherlands.
i897 IMHO looks better and is heavier (feels more expensive). Also it comes in 16gb (i9000 comes in 8gb/16gb) and has lots of AT&T crapware on it....easy enough to remove...but you have to do it
Take the one you like the looks of better.

I really like the looks of the captivate but I am worried that it's going to have 3g network problems here..
If I would import the phone, would it work perfect with the signal here to?

snaai8 said:
I really like the looks of the captivate but I am worried that it's going to have 3g network problems here..
If I would import the phone, would it work perfect with the signal here to?
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The issue will be the 900 band will be missing in the Captivate which is where a lot of carriers have 3G in Europe. In the US, it will work fine. i9000x 3G won't work in 850Mhz markets.
Captivate runs on the following data bands:
3G (850/1900/2100 MHz) <-AT&T works fine.
Galaxy i9000x runs on:
2G - GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G - HSDPA 900/1900/2100 <- Missing 850 for AT&T
Vibrant
3G - HSDPA 1700/2100
If you seriously want a world phone for data, there is only one in the market at the moment that I'm aware of. It's the Sony Xperia X10a. It's a dual mode phone and uses GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 and UMTS/HSPA 800/850/1900/2100.

I'm a complete dummy in this subject so here comes the stupid questions..
What would happen if I tried using it in my country?
I'm using a omnia 2 now with:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
So if I tried using the captivate, would my 3g be gone?
EDIT:
I was looking through the specs at the AT&T site and it said:
GSM/GPRS 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS/HSDPA (850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
So according to these specs it says that it also has a 900mhz frequention.
EDIT2: Vodafone in my area (my carrier) uses 2100 as 3g band and gsm 900/1800.
I foung this info using gsmworld

can someone please explain it to me?
Ik need to choose before friday!

[Q] Samsung i9000 variant for USA and Thailand?

I'm looking to purchase a Galaxy S next month. I live in the USA, but I travel to Thailand every year. I'd like to get one phone that will work on both AT&T and AIS for both voice and data. (3G on both would be great!) While traveling in Thailand, I really want to be able to tether my netbook through the phone.
Anyone have recommendations as to which Galaxy S I should get?

over in Europe + Asia they only have 1 model
they all come with triband 3G WCDMA 900/1900/2100
and quad band Voice/EDGE 850/900/1900/2100
so you wont go wrong in getting any Galaxy S as "There Is Only One" (hmmm... sounds which movie was it from?)
unless you get the wrong Galaxy Lite, or Galaxy 5000 series, or Galaxy 8000 series or Galaxy 7000 series

My concern is the 3G WCDMA 850MHz vs 900 MHz for data. I know that AT&T uses 850 MHz, but AIS in Thailand is using 900 MHz. While it's true that 3G is just starting to roll out in Thailand (limited coverage and all), I would like to get a phone that I'll be able to use when they do get it all covered.
If I get an unlocked Captivate for use on the AT&T network, would putting in a sim from AIS automatically switch the 3G WCDMA over to the 900 MHz band (if available)?
Or is the radio hardware-fixed on this? (I've searched for an answer on this, but can't find a straight answer.)

there is no phone with both 850 and 900 3g...

I think your only chance for a 3G phone that works in both USA and Thailand is the Captivate. True Move in Thailand has 3G on 850mhz, which the Captivate uses.
http://wikitravel.org/en/Thailand#Contact
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

lgkahn said:
there is no phone with both 850 and 900 3g...
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That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. I guess the GSM radio is separate from the 3G CDMA radio (since the GSM can do both 850 and 900).
Ben74 said:
I think your only chance for a 3G phone that works in both USA and Thailand is the Captivate. True Move in Thailand has 3G on 850mhz, which the Captivate uses.
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I'll be traveling to Trat and Koh Chang. True doesn't have coverage there as far as I can tell.
Anyway, thanks for the info!

i would buy the i9000m from canada or the i9000t or i9000b from south america b4 the captivate.. captivate.. has poor 3g upload, and no front camera.

software_samurai said:
That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. I guess the GSM radio is separate from the 3G CDMA radio (since the GSM can do both 850 and 900).
I'll be traveling to Trat and Koh Chang. True doesn't have coverage there as far as I can tell.
Anyway, thanks for the info!
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As far as I can tell, there's no 3G coverage in Trat and Koh Chang from any operator in Thailand. You'll only get GPRS/EDGE coverage there.

[Q] European GalaxyS in USA ?

Sorry if this sounds too noobish...but I have no idea about the differences of European (3G, UMTS) and American radio technology...
I have a sim-unlocked European GT-I9000 (PDA and Radio XXJVK, CSC OXXJM1).
In summer I will visit the US for several weeks and I'd like to use my phone there.
I think that voice+text will work since the I9000 can 1900, but I am not sure about the data traffic.
Can the I9000 hardware be used in the US when flashing a "US version" of the radio SW and/or CSC ?
Is that possible anyway ?
If that would work I would buy a prepaid card in the US to avoid roaming costs...

really interested in this answer, because I have the same problem.

No way to utilize your phone at most
hi ,
I recently visited USA with my international verison of galaxy s GT-I9000 and I was totally unable to utlize my 3G data services. WHY ????
Because:
In US they are having unique frequency band for data netwrok i.e. 1700MHZ ( T-Mobile) and 850 Mhz for at&T so No matters u go with their monthly plan or pay as go u cannot take advantage of your galaxy s but still u can have the low speed data connectivity on EDGE or GPRS.
Galaxy S supported Band: for non US ( No operater in US comply this)
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100

coucou143 said:
so No matters u go with their monthly plan or pay as go u cannot take advantage of your galaxy s but still u can have the low speed data connectivity on EDGE or GPRS.
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But there is another solution: Use Starbucks or MCDonalds Wifi
There are nice apps to guide you to the next free wifi in the market.
I was in the US recently and since I do not have an international data plan I used the offers mentioned above....
EDIT: Many hotels or motels offer free wifi, too!