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Hi guys, I currently own a Nexus One. I wanted to replace it for a while so I have selected these two phones, their hardware specs are pretty similar and obviously nexus s has the latest software but I like optimus black look. So please help me decide, will there be an official 2.3.4 update for optimus black anytime soon?
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Bought optimus 2x, happy with the phone.
Nexus S has a slightly stronger CPU and much stronger GPU (which would only matter if you're planning on running 3D-heavy apps).
Optimus Black has better screen (compared to the i9023, SC-LCD version), due to Google's washing out the colors in Nexus S since 2.3.3.
LG is known to be late in its software updates (the Gingerbread will come, but not anytime soon).
How 'bout them HTC phones? If you don't really emphasize camera image quality, them's got excellent phones (Incredible S comes to mind)
PS: by 3D-heavy I meant polygon-heavy, not jump-out-of-the-screen heavy.
I wouldn't buy an Optimus Black. It really has nothing going for it expect that it has a nice screen and is very thin.
Especially the lack of a broad range of customs ROMs until recently is sad.
The next phone I buy has to have working Cyanogenmod, I really miss the ROM and it's features. Optimus 2X is worth a look IMHO, however there's still some trouble with bluetooth audio AFAIK. Can't comment on the other phones, but don't get a OB.
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I have a motorola milestone smartphone. Now i have an opportunity that have a second new phone. I check the smartphone market and i decided the lg optimus 2x have the best buy/value rate.
What i need:
big screen (milestone hw keyboard will be missed but a big screen will help me out)
fast cpu and gpu (i see some test, some case lg beat even the overhyped sgs2)
solid rock TFT what is usefull in sunlight
elegant clean design
sgs2 is not an option, its too expensive and overhyped. buy/value rate is terrible. sgs2 almost cost like an iphone and a little better than O2X. its not woth it.
iphone is not an option because...i better dont say anything
i see some blog and post that optimus 2x software is not too good, but in here i found many more good custom rom, so i reflash the phone anyway, and the official gb rom is coming out any moment anyway. (my milestone also run a CM7 based rom, i almost never use the stock)...
...so the software gliches is not interested me.
based on the hardware and the design i think lg optimus 2x is worth the money.
so im right and lg optimus 2x is worth it, a good descendant for my milestone?
As you want it for CM, I would say it's worth it.
Unless you love FM radio & A2SP, then you're screwed
Muhahahaha
Edit: that was on behalf of LG developers
Rusty! said:
As you want it for CM, I would say it's worth it.
Unless you love FM radio & A2SP, then you're screwed
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i dont care the fm radio
i use my phone for internet, email, gaming, and mostly for talk, social network.
if i use for music i only use mp3.
It has a better chipset than Samsung galaxy s2
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It has a better chipset than Samsung galaxy s2
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i dont like the sgs2, i hesitate between the o2x and desire s, but o2x is not just faster but much more elegant.
sgs2 too much overhyped and expensive, and i have negative experience with the company other products too, so i not buy sgs2, not even if sgs2 will the last android phone on earth
The Desire S is basically just a smaller Desire HD
For me optimus 2x was the worst buy ever. After 2 units I've bough SGS2.
I understand that for some people it can be expensive, but there is more phones better than O2X at the almost same price.
Take a look at Galaxy R I9103.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
Here in Sweden it costs 399 euro.
If you like Tegra 2, it will be perfect phone for you. Anyway my advice is stay away from O2X.
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i dont like the sgs2, i hesitate between the o2x and desire s, but o2x is not just faster but much more elegant.
sgs2 too much overhyped and expensive, and i have negative experience with the company other products too, so i not buy sgs2, not even if sgs2 will the last android phone on earth
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I dont know were are your informations from, but O2x is not faster than SGS2. Maybe in some syntetics tests, but in the real scenario its laggy. My old HTC Legend was sometimes faster.
buy it optimus 2x is the best phone out if you ask me, never had a problem
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I dont know were are your informations from, but O2x is not faster than SGS2. Maybe in some syntetics tests, but in the real scenario its laggy. My old HTC Legend was sometimes faster.
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I think he meant faster than a desire s not SGS2
raf2k said:
For me optimus 2x was the worst buy ever. After 2 units I've bough SGS2.
I understand that for some people it can be expensive, but there is more phones better than O2X at the almost same price.
Take a look at Galaxy R I9103.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
Here in Sweden it costs 399 euro.
If you like Tegra 2, it will be perfect phone for you. Anyway my advice is stay away from O2X.
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what phone better than o2x at the same price?
by the way galaxy r is not available in my country, but galaxy r even too expensive
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what phone better than o2x at the same price?
by the way galaxy r is not available in my country, but galaxy r even too expensive
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For example Desire S, SE Arc or SE Neo with incredible battery life.
Even if those phones are not dual core, the user experience is much, much better.
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For example Desire S, SE Arc or SE Neo with incredible battery life.
Even if those phones are not dual core, the user experience is much, much better.
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desire s is definetly slower. the stock rom in the o2x is not too good, but reflash with cm7 or blazingdragon, it is much more faster. i see many videos on youtube.
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desire s is definetly slower. the stock rom in the o2x is not too good, but reflash with cm7 or blazingdragon, it is much more faster. i see many videos on youtube.
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O2x is awesome with the leaked gb from lg
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It's interesting how opinions are split. Those who had "problem" devices swear they'll never buy LG again. Those who've had no problems, or their problems went away after flashing a firmware update/CM/modaco rom etc. seem to be quite happy.
When I decided to buy my o2x it was on Amazon with a significant price cut, cheaper than basically any similar specced phone. I received a lemon which has now gone for repair. I don't know what your odds of getting a good, working device are if you buy this phone.
considering all the comments i still think that o2x is a good choice.
Hello. until the past week i was very satisfied by the O2x and i have stock room and works fine for me. The worst what happened to me is that my usb conection with pc don't work anymore. Works only the carging of battery. Don't advice you buy this phone or other from LG. what is cheap is bad.
I have to say that this phone I bought from LG recently was a good buy option. I have looked at the other options out there. If you're looking for Dual Core, there are better specs yes, but then again, the software which is out there hasn't yet utilized the dual core technology. Bang for buck, the optimus 2x is a good buy and this coming from a guy who is sticking to a stock rom and resisting the temptation to go over to CM7.
I had this phone for 2 days, I skipped the lg rom completely and installed cm7 directly
I think its a bargain for the price, problem is that the support is pretty ridiculous from both lg and nvidia not updating / releasing the code.
It could be a beast if well supported, for example Nvidia showed a prototype in February with Skype HD video calling thanks to 1080p video decoding in hardware, have you seen that released ? No, skype doesn't even support standard video calling because tegra 2 doesn't support the "skype technology" (NEON).
It's useless for companies to show off what they can do bla bla bla... if they never implement stuff!
A revolution could arrive in ICS if Google decides to use Tegra 2 as the standard hardware
I have the choice between a LG 2x vs Nesus S which would you choose ?
Do you regret this phone ?
Only thing that's swaying me to this phone is the lack of sd slot on the nexus.
Whats the biggest complaint on this phone ?
As much as I like the optimus, you would be an idiot to not get the galaxy. Where I live, optimus 2x is $300 and nexus $550+.
We will likely not get ICS for a long time.
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Mungulz said:
As much as I like the optimus, you would be an idiot to not get the galaxy. Where I live, optimus 2x is $300 and nexus $550+.
We will likely not get ICS for a long time.
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He's talking about the Nexus S
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I have the choice between a LG 2x vs Nesus S which would you choose ?
Do you regret this phone ?
Only thing that's swaying me to this phone is the lack of sd slot on the nexus.
Whats the biggest complaint on this phone ?
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Gaming im pretty sure the o2x wins, as too for media and for the camera so if i were you id choose the o2x with a custom rom its pretty dam good.
The nexus s will probably get the ICS update first but who cares right..... if you care more for the OS and less about features then get that otherwise choose the o2x i haven't regretted my choice 1 bit.
go for O2X. I would never consider a phone that has no SD card slot.
o2x for shure. with CM7.2 i like it even more than galaxy nexus. not even talking about nexus s
Nexus S with an 18 month old hardware? Yeah, O2X for me too. (No regrets. As long as your willing to flash custom firmware of course.)
If you want raw power and SD (which I do) go for the LG if you want out of the box no tampering go samsung
It seems there is way more availability of roms, kernels, ect I don't regret my choice
Making bad decision's one at a time.
I had that same problem too when I was about to buy my o2x, and it all came down to this: o2x has faster processor and external sd slot. I have no regret and I am satisfied with my decision to buy o2x, especially considering support of developer community toward o2x. Not to mention: with dual core processor, o2x is capable of handling whatever game available in android market, at least in several years to come.
O2x better than Nexus S. Is the better quality/price. Merry Christmas
I actually bought a nexus as a present for a teenage girl nice big screen but the resolution is the same so my screen looks better I think its good for blind people tho I guess lol the hardware is just way to good on this phone ( other than the internal memory) but I think its a pretty one sided argument in my eyes
Making bad decision's one at a time.
Lovin my O2X, but Nexus S will always get the first hand updates for Android.
Depends on you I guess...
Hardware specs - O2X
Software update speed - NS
Hy, i want to trade or sal my LG Optimus 2X and i don't know what to get. I wand a Motorola Droid Rarz or a Samsung Galaxy S2 (i don't like it but i can trade my phone with one, for Razr i should wati to sell it...). I don't know what to choose,
P.S: Any phone i get i will flash CM9
If you can really just 'trade' it, you'd definitely be better going for the S2. As far as specs go, the RAZR isn't really that good, and S2 is simply just the best android available right now.
If you want to sell the 2x for a new phone, I'd recommend to just wait for a while to get the newer gen phones. It isn't really worth the hassle to sell the 2x to get last year's phone. There are better phones coming, such as the HTC One X, One S, which are gonna be released not so long from now. They have next gen CPUs, so it's worth the upgrade. If you want to wait longer, there's the S3 with rumored awesome specs, but it isn't coming until May/June.
I would have got Razr if i had option...Everytime only specs doesn't matters, if looks are killer, specs don't matter anymore- atleast for me
Sent from my Optimus 2X using XDA
Between those two I would get the GSII
Since I don't need a quad-core device, I would definitely go for the GSII
+1 for GSII. But why do you want to trade your O2X and buy a very similar (regarding the specs) device?
As silentmelodies said, next gen devices are coming... Just be patient.
because i need i 4.3 or bigger display. The next gen price will make all of us dizzy ). This is in Romania. I usually keep a phone at least 3-4 months, i have the LG O2X for 7 months
SGS2, FTW!
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im not a fan of samsungs amoled but between those two, i would also go for the sgsII, huge dev support, great specs..
+1 for asking why you want to sell your o2x? official ics is near and ips display is waaaaaaay above amoled if it comes to true colors.
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because i need i 4.3 or bigger display. The next gen price will make all of us dizzy ). This is in Romania. I usually keep a phone at least 3-4 months, i have the LG O2X for 7 months
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Oh... So buy now a GSII and wait until the next gen devices arrival. By the end of the summer you will be about to sell your 4-5month old GSII for a new one.
The S2 has the better developer support, so yeah, I think that's another winning factor
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The S2 has the better developer support, so yeah, I think that's another winning factor
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Yeahh but on optimus, CM is.more stable i guess- I tried Gs1 and it was bad :banghead:
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Personally I'd go with the Sony Xperia S. Looks good, a reasonable size and some nice features.
Wouldn't change my IPS screen on the O2X for a SAMOLED Plus, it's just too colourful and somehow splashy for my taste. Though it is a bit bigger on SGSII.
O2X via TT2
I'm voting for the underdog. The Droid RAZR. As long as root can be obtained (which I checked and we can), I should be happy.
In my country, the SII is being common sight. So I want me a unique Kevlar @ssed phone.
build quality on the razor is a lot better than gs2, though i did sell the razor, and went back to using my bad ass 2x (':
Look i never own s2 but i owned 4 of 5 galaxy s 1. Series.
I got droid RAZR over this weekend.
Own droid 1.
I can tell you this galaxy s 2 isnt any better then RAZR simple fact the s2 launcher blogs up or hipcus.
The minute you play 25 mins on game gta 3 or watch movie it freeze until the app right back.
just like on galaxy s 1 i had which was fascinate and vibrant that why i hack it.
Droid RAZR if you download over 50mb it does fizzled for a sec but it download in less 5 mins. Something the s2 take about 7 to 10 min.
If you go based on specs DROID RAZR is 540x960 resolution over 480x800 galaxy s2.
DROID RAZR is 16 gb internal storage over galaxy s2 that have 2 gb or 2.20 gb internal storage found in epic touch or galaxy s 2 aka Hercules in united states. The galaxy s2 in Europe. Did it smart with 16/32 gb internal storage instead of being cheap like us carriers did to save money.
Both have 1gb of ram.
both have 8 megapixes
Both have 1080 p video recording and playback.
DROID RAZR have led notifications
Galaxy s2 dont.
Galaxy s2 have easy to hack.
But DROID razr isnt friendly but where their a will their way go to droid life or droidforums for info.
DROID razr is water repellent check YouTube or try it on your own.
galaxy s 2 isn't
Galaxy s2 is bigger 4.5 over 4.3
Both have super amoled plus.
DROID RAZR have better built quality.
galaxy s line is to plastic like iphone 3g and 3gs.
Galaxy s2 have 2 megapixes on front face camera better than DROID razr 1.3 megapixes.
however the DROID RAZR have 720 p video recording ffc and s2 dont.
DROID RAZR have ppi of 256 and galaxy s2 have 216 ppi.
Droid razr have similar if not the same processer as gnex with omap 4 1.2ghz dual core and. Usa have snapdragon which suck. Only sprint have s2 have Exynos 4210 like Europe instead of slow in my opinion snapdragon s3 processor. Remember htc cough their issue is due to low mah power they put on their phones and snapdragon processors. So if im you guy avoid buying snapdragon device their horrible.
Im not bias stating the facts and i love fact that DROID RAZR lock backdoor.
Thank me if you like this.
Fyi i had to many htc to know if snapdragon isn't 2 reason of why htc phone dont last long.
What do you think about this phone (L9) ? I've read that it works smoothly and battery lasts a long time. In my country the phone costs 900PLN. For example Lg 4X costs about 1350PLN and I can sell my black for 500PLN. I would like to buy, but I do not know if it is worth it. It have dual-core proccesor and SGX540 and 4,7 IPS screen with a little higher resolution. Gpu is old, I think. I can not decide and I'm waiting for a good answer. Sorry for my bad English.
Its like "hanging in palm tree after falling from sky" (A hindi proverb translated roughly). Sell ur OB and dont look back for LG. I m yet amazed you are going to buy another mobile from LG. IMO go for HTC as they have very vast support by XDA and their updates are good too.
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Its like "hanging in palm tree after falling from sky" (A hindi proverb translated roughly). Sell ur OB and dont look back for LG. I m yet amazed you are going to buy another mobile from LG. IMO go for HTC as they have very vast support by XDA and their updates are good too.
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HTC = locked bootloader and if you dont know how to you could brick the phone.
as I always recommend, go for an AOSP device Galaxy nexus or the next nexus4 (made by LG) or some of the new xperias.
Yea, but in my sweet country Nexus 4 costs two times more and it doesn't have microsd slot. If thera is 32gb model of this phone, sure I will buy it. I saw on the youtube that L9 is very smooth, have good performance, good battery, nice screen(I don't need a full hd in phone) and good looking.
I have tried this phone and i can tell you that it is very smooth in comparision to another smatphone like optimus l7. Also the materials (for me) are really good, :laugh: i also would buy l9 because it doesn't costs much for what it offers
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What do you think about this phone (L9) ? I've read that it works smoothly and battery lasts a long time. In my country the phone costs 900PLN. For example Lg 4X costs about 1350PLN and I can sell my black for 500PLN. I would like to buy, but I do not know if it is worth it. It have dual-core proccesor and SGX540 and 4,7 IPS screen with a little higher resolution. Gpu is old, I think. I can not decide and I'm waiting for a good answer. Sorry for my bad English.
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No company gives free nothing.. Just think why the L series cost is less than Optimus Black
You compare the LG Optimus Black and L series in some sites, nothing L series is better than Optimus Black except ICS version for now (of course now we will get soon official ICS for optimus black in couple of weeks)
So decision is yours..
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No company gives free nothing.. Just think why the L series cost is less than Optimus Black
You compare the LG Optimus Black and L series in some sites, nothing L series is better than Optimus Black except ICS version for now (of course now we will get soon official ICS for optimus black in couple of weeks)
So decision is yours..
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p970 better then L9???
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5025&idPhone2=3704
sekhar13515 said:
No company gives free nothing.. Just think why the L series cost is less than Optimus Black
You compare the LG Optimus Black and L series in some sites, nothing L series is better than Optimus Black except ICS version for now (of course now we will get soon official ICS for optimus black in couple of weeks)
So decision is yours..
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Optimus L9 seems to be a lot berrer than Optimus Black
L9 is better than P970 for most things, but according to GSMArena it doesn't have GPU and it will choke on high graphics games.
@pkb_always4
It depends on what phone you have not the brand. It varies. Out P970 community is better than a lot of HTC phones just as some HTC phones community is better than ours. Were alot better of than most phones this old since other companies like HTC decides rather not to give updates than take a while longer to release them (Even though they're supposed to but Google doesn't enforce it strictly enough). If you want a guaranteed awesome phone,awesome community and awesome official then theres only Nexus. The only problem is that it's expensive.
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L9 is better than P970 for most things, but according to GSMArena it doesn't have GPU and it will choke on high graphics games.
@pkb_always4
It depends on what phone you have not the brand. It varies. Out P970 community is better than a lot of HTC phones just as some HTC phones community is better than ours. Were alot better of than most phones this old since other companies like HTC decides rather not to give updates than take a while longer to release them (Even though they're supposed to but Google doesn't enforce it strictly enough). If you want a guaranteed awesome phone,awesome community and awesome official then theres only Nexus. The only problem is that it's expensive.
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Hey bro, I think on gsmarena, he just took the wrong phone... here are the full specs:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_l9_p760-4955.php
So the gpu is: PowerVR SGX540
But no clue of how good it is...
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Hey bro, I think on gsmarena, he just took the wrong phone... here are the full specs:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_l9_p760-4955.php
So the gpu is: PowerVR SGX540
But no clue of how good it is...
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I looked at P769 which is also L9.
The SGX540 is a very good GPU.
If thats the phone he was talking about then its much better than P970.
It have OMAP 4430, the same have razr and prada 3.0. But i thought that sgx 540 is old. This gpu is in the first galaxy s.
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luq529 said:
It have OMAP 4430, the same have razr and prada 3.0. But i thought that sgx 540 is old. This gpu is in the first galaxy s.
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It won't give you lag. You don't need more than that.
I'm decided, but does not want to leave our community. Unfortunately, this the way of things. My Lg Black will go to my brother. I don't why so many people complain about p970. It's a very good phone even now(but yea with Zeus ). I will sure keep checking here still. We have a very good developers. I'm sure that someone go for the Lg L9 too. And thanks for reply.
Same GPU as the Nexus S/Galaxy S, so it's better than the OB but not that much, compared to the Mali 400 in the Galaxy S II/S III and Xperia U/P. The Xperias have the same CPU as the L9.
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I looked at P769 which is also L9.
The SGX540 is a very good GPU.
If thats the phone he was talking about then its much better than P970.
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Better yes! BT i recommend u don't go fr a phone with a TI based cpu...Sony's NovaThor isn't dat grt also.. I'd say go fr anything with Qualcomm s4...
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then i say how about nexus 4
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then i say how about nexus 4
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I picked up a p769 L9 and I must say I'm impressed! The screen is beautiful and the phone is snappy! It makes me forget about my G2x. I'd love to see CM10.1 on it. It would run it perfectly! Only drawback I've seen so far... I can't seem to get Voice Dialing to work. What gives?
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I picked up a p769 L9 and I must say I'm impressed! The screen is beautiful and the phone is snappy! It makes me forget about my G2x. I'd love to see CM10.1 on it. It would run it perfectly! Only drawback I've seen so far... I can't seem to get Voice Dialing to work. What gives?
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Strange! The first thing I tried calling my wife from ShowRoom was to call with voice dial. Any ICS have built in support for that. Just press google voice and say "Call Wife" and phone will call your wife. And yes, I am also coming from O2x, almost same device.
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HTC = locked bootloader and if you dont know how to you could brick the phone.
as I always recommend, go for an AOSP device Galaxy nexus or the next nexus4 (made by LG) or some of the new xperias.
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Well said. I am long time hater of LG for its slow support, but pals, THEY MAKE UNBRICKABLE PHONES. LG Support Tool always UNBRICKED every phone (which I know). This is TOPMOST best feature of LG. Now about slow or no support, who cares? We have XDA One of my friend already bricked HTC phone last year and later sold it in scrap.
This is the reason, this week only, I upgraded to new economical but still strong model LG L9 with 4.7" screen. Long duration Li-Ion 2150 mAh battery, which gives two full working days (and roaming also) which is rare in most Android Smartphones. So now people should stop cursing them, like I did. I also recommend all for LG Nexus 4 if good budget, else go for L9.
EDIT: How LG phones are unbrickable? When you press few HARDWARE buttons on phone simultaneously the phone hardware puts phone in SW Upgrade Mode. No matter phone is bricked or working. In this mode most devices download full rom with the help of LG Support Tool and your phone is back in action.
Most (not all) of the phones from other companies does not even come in such upgrade mode and you loose chances of bringing LIFE back to phone, leaving only one option to send to Service Center and well you know how much they charge. I did not pay a single penny to Service Center for any of my bricked phones.
here are the main differences ...
connectivity:
.p970 Has a gyroscope , l9 not
p970 can be used as a WiFi hot spot l9 not.
l9 Has DLNA p970 not.
camera:
Clearly better video recording quality 1080p @30 fps (l9) vs 720p @30 fps (p970)
power
Appreciably more battery power 2,150 mAh (l9) vs 1,500 mAh (p970) => 44% more battery power
i couldnt send the link im still new in this forum , its from versusio