Can't install safestrap recovery - Motorola Droid 3

Downloaded 1.08v of safestrap, grant root, attempt to 'install recovery' but “recovery state" still says not installed. Am I missing something? Any help would be appreciated.
Would love to try out hashcode's ics alpha but haven't been able to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
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when you rebooted and kept pressing the menu button nothing happende? mine didnt say anything when i clicked install recovery but it worked... also make sure you dont have any other bootloaders on the device

Shameful noob question... menu button? The soft key?
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Forgot to mention that I have no other bootloaders instlled.
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When you see the motorla boot logo. Keep pressing the menu[one of the four buttons on front. Looks like four little cubes] and it should then show yu the safestrap screen. Press menu again and it should load into recovery. You should read up a little in the forums as you can really mess your phone up if you do the wrong thing in recovery
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He cant even get the strap to install. Safestrap has to be installed before he can use it. There is a confirmation when its done correctly....
Dri94 said:
When you see the motorla boot logo. Keep pressing the menu[one of the four buttons on front. Looks like four little cubes] and it should then show yu the safestrap screen. Press menu again and it should load into recovery. You should read up a little in the forums as you can really mess your phone up if you do the wrong thing in recovery
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As far as the reason why its not installing, I'm not 100% sure. I saw another thread with the same issue your having. They had to sbf (fastboot .xml file) and then it worked. You could always try booting into the stock recovery and doing a wipe from there and then try installing safestrap again. Make sure you back up any data you dont want to loose of course.

oh ok i understand better now. To the OP, will do some research in the morning although safestrap is new so im not sure how much i will come up with. Will try my best though =]

Possible cause of issue
@Dri I hit the menu soft key many times at the moto logo but never see a safestrap splashscreen
I think I may have found the cause of my safestrap issues.
I installed koush's bootstrap long before trying to install safestrap. I uninstalled koush's bootstrap.apk but there was no "uninstall recovery" option in the program.
Would this cause problems? If so, how does one go about removing the koush boostrap recovery?
I may just end up going into normal recovery and restoring to factory. Thank you so much for all the the helpful tips. The XDA community is awesome.

I have to admit i forgot ot look this up in the morning, sorry for such a late reply. But after reserach i didnt find anything, probably because safestrap is new. Butttt, uninstalling koush should have been enough. I dont remember there being a uninstall button inside the app... what happens when you hit uninstall recovery?

I may not be of much use in researching this, but I thought Koush's bootstrap/recovery had an uninstall recovery option within the app...I think you are supposed to do that before uninstalling the .apk, but you may be able to see if you reinstall the .apk and look inside the app. However, I can't see it hurting to just put the phone back to stock using the unbricking method found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339816 I think Hash's blog had mentioned not to install Koush's app, but if you did I believe he mentioned how to get rid of it. I would try to start from fresh as possible to make sure there wouldn't be any complications in the future.
I've correctly installed Safestrap AFAIK, but can't get it to back anything up. Installing CM7 .zip from safe mode doesn't do crap. So, I'm waiting till I can get it to work before I flash any ROMs.

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LG Marquee has CWM.

Okay guys, I thought what the hell, I'll try the LGE Black option in ROM manager and see what happens.
IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Use the volume keys to move and the search button to select.
The first boot into it, you will get all kinds of errors saying it can't mount certain files.
Go to "Mounts and Storage" and select "mount /cache". The errors will go away.
Everything seems to work as it should.
A quirk that I found was that until you "Wipe cache partition" you will be stuck in recovery and you cannot get out. Once done, "Reboot System Now" and everything works great.
One last thing, I cannot figure out how to key combo into recovery. I have to use ROM manager to access it.
NOTE:CWM messes up turning off the phone. Pressing the power button and selecting OK to turn off will now reset the phone and then boot it back up. Now only way to power off phone (besides pulling battery) is to use ROM Manager to boot into recovery, wipe the cache, then select power off.
good news dude
no key combo on Black, I think it's the same on Marquee
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NOTE:CWM messes up turning off the phone. Pressing the power button and selecting OK to turn off will now reset the phone and then boot it back up. Now only way to power off phone (besides pulling battery) is to use ROM Manager to boot into recovery, wipe the cache, then select power off.
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This seems weird; does CWM allow you to make a backup?
Have you tried loading a backup to see how it works?
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This seems weird; does CWM allow you to make a backup?
Have you tried loading a backup to see how it works?
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I have tried and you do not get a complete backup. You do get the boot and recovery img files but not much else.
I have tried (without luck) via twitter to contact Koushik Dutta, the man responsible for CWM. We really need his assistance for this to move forward.
well, I know its possible to use the Android Terminal Emulator to flash a custom recovery image from your sd card;
thedroiddemos.com/2010/07/23/how-to-flash-a-custom-recovery-on-android-tutorial
I wonder if it can be used to generate an image of your phones current state to create your own back up and file it on your sd card.
Haven't tried to do any type of restore yet. I have managed to get the boot and recovery IMG files and used adb to get a copy of the system files.
(The LG-Black Dev's are using these files to develop their Gingerbread version.)
I might try to figure out how to do this from the link you gave. If I do, I will post what I find out.
Honestly though, after guinea pigging the root and CWM without total bricking the phone, I'm afraid of pushing my luck too far.
It would be nice if some more people would jump in and help with some of this but I guess the phone is to new to have very many users. Seems like I see the same few names on the three Marquee forums I know of.
I know what you mean. I'm starting to think you are the only one out there with a rooted Marquee.
Hang in there... I think once all the chaos from the iphone settles down, more people will have the Marquee. Most stores in my area are saying they don't even have it. They don't even have them on display.
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I have tried (without luck) via twitter to contact Koushik Dutta, the man responsible for CWM. We really need his assistance for this to move forward.
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any response from koush?
Also, I was wondering...
I often download files from peers in forums instead of going strait to the source. I saw that you got CWM from the android marketplace via Rom Manager...
Do you have the premium version?
market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager
also, I was reading at the link above and noticed you can email koush directly for help with CWM via [email protected]
Have you tried this?
Also, according to this;
//market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager.license
it mentions the following;
"Did flashing break your recovery? Flash an alternate/experimental one and flash back to fix!"
I'm still looking for a place to download alternate/experimental ones but I think the latest is here;
koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html?widgetType=BlogArchive&widgetId=BlogArchive1&action=toggle&dir=open&toggle=YEARLY-1293868800000&toggleopen=MONTHLY-1265011200000
where it says "ROM Manager (Changelog)"
also, there are other methods of getting in touch with koush here;
koushikdutta.com/search?updated-min=2011-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2012-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=8
via facebook, google+, etc...
hope this helps!
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any response from koush? None yet. I know he is a busy person so I am patient.
Also, I was wondering...
I often download files from peers in forums instead of going strait to the source. I saw that you got CWM from the android marketplace via Rom Manager...
Do you have the premium version? Yes I use the Premium version
market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager
also, I was reading at the link above and noticed you can email koush directly for help with CWM via [email protected]
Have you tried this? I did not know this and I appreciate this information. I have just sent him an email with all of the things that do and don't work.
Also, according to this;
//market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager.license
it mentions the following;
"Did flashing break your recovery? Flash an alternate/experimental one and flash back to fix!"
I'm still looking for a place to download alternate/experimental ones but I think the latest is here;
koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html?widgetType=BlogArchive&widgetId=BlogArchive1&action=toggle&dir=open&toggle=YEARLY-1293868800000&toggleopen=MONTHLY-1265011200000
where it says "ROM Manager (Changelog)" Until we have a backup to work with, I will stick with the market version.
also, there are other methods of getting in touch with koush here;
koushikdutta.com/search?updated-min=2011-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2012-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=8
via facebook, google+, etc...
hope this helps!
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ALL help is greatly appreciated.
so, I've done some digging...apparently the marquee isn't the only LG phone not supported by the ROM manager app.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg...ad-only-memory-manager-optimus-s-brick-6.html
post numbers 58-60 were disappointing to read...
...but maybe facebook is the best way to contact
Lq marquee key combo is volume down and power button until softkeys start to flash then release
worfner73 said:
Lq marquee key combo is volume down and power button until softkeys start to flash then release
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Dang, that key combo should be implemented on Optimus Black as well. Marquee has the goodies.
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worfner73 said:
Lq marquee key combo is volume down and power button until softkeys start to flash then release
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I have verified this to work on my LG Marquee.
Thanks Worfer73.
tcaudill01 said:
I have verified this to work on my LG Marquee.
Thanks Worfer73.
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wait...this works for CWM and gets you into recovery...but the recovery itself is still temperamental correct? still no way to create a nandroid backup?
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wait...this works for CWM and gets you into recovery...but the recovery itself is still temperamental correct? still no way to create a nandroid backup?
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hey guys, I have done a backup of my stock rom from cwm, I think it worked, but I have no reason to flash it back yet, I'm as geeked as everyone else for roms on this thing, but I still miss my captivate, firefly was awesome
well then, THAT's interesting. So everything appears to be working in CWM for you? Just using the OPBlack version?
Rmcc seemed to imply it would work here:
https://twitter.com/#!/CM_arcee/status/151624356311744512
https://twitter.com/#!/CM_arcee/status/151712659794964481
But I honestly haven't had enough time to delve into this much. I had the Marquee for about 2 weeks or so, but had to temporarily switch for work-related reasons. Will probably switch back to it as my personal phone, so I would love to see / hear some progress on this.
Didn't work quit as well for me... When I tried to mount the cache I got an error. The only way I could get out of the recovery screen was to 'Wipe Cache Partition'
By the way THANK YOU for posting that. I could not figure out how to get out of that screen. My phone is rooted and I have been waiting for people to develop... but it looks like there are not many people developing on the Marquee
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BTW I posted a request for the Marquee on Cyanogenmod facebook page... if we all do the same we may be able to get some love.

E file signature verification failed?

I am a noob an I am alittle confused with installing roms. I tried to install one and it went through everything and then it stopped and it said in yellow that the E file signature verification has failed now what does this mean. Please help.
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What was the exact name of the rom (or filename)... was it a stock rom (SBF/XML) or was it one of the custom roms?
Also was your phone rooted?
I was trying to install a couple but the one I really have been trying in the liberty 3 2.0.
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Are you using safestrap for your clockworkmodrecovery or are you using regular bootstrap?
And when you're in clockworkmod recovery what exact steps did you do to flash? You should wipe data & cache, then choose install zip from sdcard.
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I don't know how to use or get bootstrap and I don't know alot about safe strap yet. I tried different ways I tried using rom manager an downloading the rom from there then it will ask if I want to boot into recover I push ok and the phone just reboots. Nothing happens so I tried rom toolbox an did the same thing. So I tried to boot myself by pushing the power and x an I did as you said I wiped data a cache then I reset and restored my phone went back an installed zip from sd card then it starts to install then it says E file signature verification has failed.
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Ahhhh ok.
It sounds like you are trying to install zips via the stock recovery. That recovery will only install signed/official ones, not custom rom zips.
If you want to install custom roms, try this method (but I recommend browsing through the other threads. There is a lot of useful info out there). This is the safestrap method. Safestrap allows you to have your stock rom (that you are on now) in the "non-safe zone" and with safestrap you can enable the "safe zone" for installing your custom rom.
1) make sure your phone is rooted if it isn't already. There are threads about this... I used DoomLord's root (version 4) for my phone but read up.
2) install safestrap 1.08 (u can find it in the droid 3 development forum). It is an apk file.
3) when you run safestrap 1.08 from your app drawer, superuser will probably ask you if you want to allow it root access, say yes.
4) in the app, hit the first button. It will install safestrap so you can boot into safestrap recovery. When it says its done, restart phone.
5) upon restart, you will be greeted by the safestrap splashscreen. It gives u 10 seconds to hit Menu to take you into safestrap recovery. Otherwise it will just continue with booting.
6) so hit menu. Safestrap ecovery appears. It will indicate that safe mode is not enabled yet. You are in non-safe right now (your stock rom)
7) this step is optional but I'm sure everyone will recommend it (I do also). Navigate your selection with the down/up volume buttons and hit power when you get to "backup". This will back up your non-safe zone and dump it onto your sdcard (internal or external). You can restore it to your non-safe zone (only) if you happen to mess up your non-safe system. The backup will be stored in /safestrap/backup. of whatever card you select.
8) now that that's done, it will take you back to the main menu of safestrap recovery
9) Go to "safe boot menu" and hit Toggle safe zone. Don't do the quick toggle, just do the normal one (the first one)
10) when that is done, you will notice the colour of the text has changed. And at the top it will say safe zone enabled. You can now install your custom rom by going to "install zip from sdcard" from the main menu of safestrap*
*Note that when installing roms, make sure to choose Wipe Data first. It will wipe your data and cache. Then go into mounts and storage and choose "format /system" (thanks Endo). Some people also like to go into the advanced menu and wipe the dalvik cache as well (is this necessary? I do it every time because I had to back on my old htc... maybe someone can comment on this?) It doesn't seem to hurt anything when I do it, so...
So after your wipes, you can go to "install rom from sdcard" . Choose the .zip of the rom (of course) to begin install. When the rom has finished installing, you can go back to the main menu and choose reboot phone. You will be greeted by the safestrap splashscreen again. It will tell you that safe zone is enabled. Wait the 10 seconds to boot normally or you can hit the search button to go immediately.
On first boot of many roms, it may take a little longer than normal to start up. Be patient. If it never boots (and you are looking at the boot animation forever... say more than 5-10 minutes?) Then... somethings wrong, or you may have forgotten to do your wipe procedure, but go to that rom's thread and read all the posts to see if others experienced the same thing... someone could have posted a good suggestion or solution
Oh, if you want to switch back to non-safe mode, restart phone, get into safestrap recovery, go into safe boot menu, and hit toggle. Then restart phone.
If something disastrous occurs, there are Unbrick and Fastboot threads in this forum where you can download a stock rom for your phone and flash to your phone via RSD Lite, which will pretty much restore your phone to stock. (No more safestrap, no more root). Read through those to get more info.
Hope this is helpful. Good luck!
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ryanw5489 said:
I don't know how to use or get bootstrap and I don't know alot about safe strap yet. I tried different ways I tried using rom manager an downloading the rom from there then it will ask if I want to boot into recover I push ok and the phone just reboots. Nothing happens so I tried rom toolbox an did the same thing. So I tried to boot myself by pushing the power and x an I did as you said I wiped data a cache then I reset and restored my phone went back an installed zip from sd card then it starts to install then it says E file signature verification has failed.
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I'm not really sure what you are doing but uninstall any recovery you may have installed and ditch rom manage(you can keep the toolbox) go to www.hash-of-codes.blogspot.com go to downloads and get safestrap. Install it, open it and click install recovery. Reboot your phone, you'll get a screen saying pish menu to enter recovery then once it enters go to safe mode menu(or whatever it exactly says) and enter safe mode. Once safemode is active(it says at the top of the screen)go to mounts and storage and format system then do a data/cache wipe, the install zip from sd
If you're doing what I think you're doing you are new to this and I would suggest reading as much as you can in this forum and by googling the various terms you find so you don't brick your phone
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So do you want me to uninstall clockwork recovery?
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ryanw5489 said:
So do you want me to uninstall clockwork recovery?
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Yes. Safestrap will install its own CWR
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So how do I go about uninstalling cmw.
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ryanw5489 said:
So how do I go about uninstalling cmw.
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Safestrap will clean that up. Just get rid of any bootstraps and rom manager
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So I have to get rid of rom manager because I paid for it an really don't feel like losing money on it. I don't think I have any bootstrap so I should be good there. I'm sorry that I don't know alot I'm really new an I don't have the most time to even do alot of research so thanks for helping me out greatly appreciated.
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ryanw5489 said:
So I have to get rid of rom manager because I paid for it an really don't feel like losing money on it. I don't think I have any bootstrap so I should be good there. I'm sorry that I don't know alot I'm really new an I don't have the most time to even do alot of research so thanks for helping me out greatly appreciated.
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If you have your heart set on rom manager, I believe it will work, but I've never used it so I can't help you there. I recommend safestrap because once you're in safemode its pretty hard to screw up your phone in any serious manner. In safemode you'll always be able to access recovery.
In a google search of your issue I found a recommendation of turning off signature verification. I know I've seen an option for this or something really damn similar in clockwork recovery. You can try that if you like but I don't know the effects of it. As always, I'm not responsible if you brick your device
That said, I would also suggest that you look into obtaining rsdlite and the appropriate fastboot package(you may know this as an sbf, although that term isn't totally correct)so if you do brick your device you know how to recover it. There's a sticky in the dev forum about it
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Thank you I understand I wouldn't ever blame anyone for my mistakes so your good. I was thinking about using safestrap anyways just haven't had time to research it much yet. Probably would be best since I don't know much about roms anyways. Now it's not that I have it set with rom manager just seemed easy to use and I like rom toolbox alittle more anyways. I also know that not all roms are comparable with the safestrap so that's another reason why I haven't used it yet.
Now on another topic. I have downloaded safestrap on my computer all I have to do is plug my phone to the computer an put it on mass storage and place it in the sd card or internal memory and unplug it an click on it on my phone.
I really need to start some research cause this stuff is pretty hard.
But thanks for your help again
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I have installed safestrap. Is there anywhere that's best to look up how to use it.
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i have installed safe strap i rebooted my phone and now it is stuck on boot screen now what did i do to my phone and what happen can it be fixed?
Which boot screen? What does it look like? Is it the safestrap boot screen (that says you can hit Menu to get into recovery?)
I replied to this thread with instructions on how to use it. Were they not useful? Did you get stuck somewhere?
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Which boot screen? What does it look like? Is it the safestrap boot screen (that says you can hit Menu to get into recovery?)
I replied to this thread with instructions on how to use it. Were they not useful? Did you get stuck somewhere?
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I don't know how I missed your huge write up. More detailed than mine.
I figured the same, stock recovery. I'm not sure what steps he's taken before he wrote this thread.
OP if its the boot animation, on first boot it takes a long time. 5 minutes normally but give it 10 to be sure. If its the splash screen you may have issues. Is the safestrap splash coming up, where it says press menu
You may have to use rsdlite or the fast unbrick to restore your phone to stock. If you can write us EVERYTHING you've done in as much detail as possible, and exactly what is happenig now we can come up with a solution.
I think often all the various terms can be confusing to newcomers. I have a feeling perhaps that you still have a bootstrap installed and safestrap.
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ok well first i went to hash of codes and downloaded the safestrap. Then i put the download on my sd card and i went into my files and pushed sd memory. then i went and found the apk and downloaded the safestrap. it installed fine then i pushed install recovery.then after all that i rebooted my phone and now it is stuck on the BIG RED Motorola symbol that says DUAL CORE TECHNOLGY. I even took out battery and tried that did not work. i also tried pushing power and x and restoring phone. still nothing. i must of missed something i just cant figure what that would be! Please help!
ryanw5489 said:
ok well first i went to hash of codes and downloaded the safestrap. Then i put the download on my sd card and i went into my files and pushed sd memory. then i went and found the apk and downloaded the safestrap. it installed fine then i pushed install recovery.then after all that i rebooted my phone and now it is stuck on the BIG RED Motorola symbol that says DUAL CORE TECHNOLGY. I even took out battery and tried that did not work. i also tried pushing power and x and restoring phone. still nothing. i must of missed something i just cant figure what that would be! Please help!
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No I meant with rom manager and rfom toolox. All the steps you took prior to posting on this thnread
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Wierd Boot Menu

Hey all,
I'm looking since over a week for a solution but without luck. I tried quite everything, I ended up in purchasing ROM Manager Premium. My problem is that I cannot boot into the clockword recovery mode, so I can perform a Nandroid Full Backup of my existing ROM. I am running stock firmware, nothing special. I just rooted my device and I also installed ROM Manager Premium. I clicked on "Flash Recovery" and of course I assigned superuser rights with the "remember" option checked. I tried:
- open the application ROM Manager and choose the second function called "reboot into recovery". result--> my device do a normal boot, nothing happens.
- I tried powering on the phone by first turn it off, then push simultanously Powerbutton+VolumeDownButton+HomeButton. Nothing --> it still boots on normal way.
- When I slide/open my droid3, and powering on my phone using the powerbutton+X-button then I am getting this explanation mark. Then I have to push simulatenously volup+voldown buttons and I see the stock boot mode of Motorola, where I can reset to factory defaults, and so on. This is the stock boot mode, isn't it?
- When I slide/open my droid3, and powering on my phone using the powerbutton+M-button on the keyboard, I am getting a menu with following lines:
Boot Mode Selection Menu (0A.53)
Vol Up Selects, Vol Down scrolls
Available Boot Modes:
Normal Powerup
Recovery
AP Fastboot
BP SBF Flash
BP Only
BP HW Diag & Boot AP
BP Tools
I can use the VolDown key to scroll and I scrolled to BP Tools and pushed the VolUp Button. But my device still boots up normally, I don't see any clockwork mod recovery menu or something like that. Damn it!
What am I doin' wrong? How can I access this Recovery Menu, so I will be able to perform a Nandroid Backup ???
Hope someone can help, it's really getting frustrating Any help appreciated. Thanks to all.
Droid 3 has a locked bootloader. Which bootstrap do you have installed?
Rom manager is kinda useless for the d3, most roms aren't on it. Safestrap is the bootstrap of choice for d3. Il find a link
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http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/downloads/safestrap/
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Thanks for the link, but coulod someone anyhow tell me which menu I am booting in, when pressing M+Powerbutton ? is this also stock from Motorola ?
So, ROM Manager is useless .. means: I have to uninstall completely before doing any other stuff, right? I uninstalled ROM Manager and to be sure I rebootet my phone.
I downloaded this Safestrap version for my Droid 3 (Droid 3 :: v1.08 [ 2011-12-16 ]) and transferred it into my Droid3. Within my phone I open ES file explorer and tapped on this safestrap.apk and installed it.
I am using this how-to-instructions link for Safestrap by Hash Code. So far so good, I was able to perform a backup although I get a notice similar to "skipping /android.blabla no applications found". Hope this is ok. I verified the backup and md5 checksums seem to be ok.
I hope a have a valid backup of my stock ROM now
Sloop said:
Thanks for the link, but coulod someone anyhow tell me which menu I am booting in, when pressing M+Powerbutton ? is this also stock from Motorola ?
So, ROM Manager is useless .. means: I have to uninstall completely before doing any other stuff, right? I uninstalled ROM Manager and to be sure I rebootet my phone.
I downloaded this Safestrap version for my Droid 3 (Droid 3 :: v1.08 [ 2011-12-16 ]) and transferred it into my Droid3. Within my phone I open ES file explorer and tapped on this safestrap.apk and installed it.
I am using this how-to-instructions link for Safestrap by Hash Code. So far so good, I was able to perform a backup although I get a notice similar to "skipping /android.blabla no applications found". Hope this is ok. I verified the backup and md5 checksums seem to be ok.
I hope a have a valid backup of my stock ROM now
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Yes you do, however the idea is that you should never need it, as you can't flash when safe mode is disabled, you have to activate safe mode. Because of this its pretty hard to mess your phone, as the stock rom never gets overwritten
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I didnt understand perfectly yet how this safestrap/boot stuff works. I installed safestrap recovery, so far so good. I can access this boot menu as described in HashCodes HowTo. What happens if I enable safeboot in the menu? I am getting a warning that it cannot be undone.Why am I getting warned?I canceled it because I was not sure what to choose. Do I have something like a dual-boot menu when installing a custom ROM? That means I can install CM7 and also boot my stock Motoblur with all my actual settings and apps installed? And if I reboot the device I can boot for example CM7 and have a strict different system running with the apps and settings installed only on my CM7 portion?
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Dualbooting is one (slightly inaccurate) way to look at it. I'm not sure which warning you are talking about, but i can explain a bit better. Safestrap is designed to keep a perfect copy of your original system at all times. As in better than a nandroid. So perfect that it is ALWAYS there. It is not modified in any way. Even if you flash something that you know will brick your phone, you can simply boot up safestrap and switch back to your original safe system.
This is different than dualbooting because it is not quite as easy to switch between systems as dualbooting is. As in you don't select one on start up and boot into the one of your choice at the same speed.
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Motorola Milestone A853 Skips Over Recovery Menu

Okay so I am running CyanogenMod 7.2 on my Motorola Milestone A853 and I wanted to install the MIUI ROM so I held the power button and hit Reboot and then clicked Recovery and it did what it was supposed to do; it rebooted and acted like it was going into the Recovery Menu but it got to the triangle where you are supposed to hold Camera and Volume Up and then within less than 1 second it skipped over that and completely rebooted the phone normally. I didn't have time to hit Camera and Volume Up.
So I decided to try completely powering down my phone and powering up while holding the "X" button on the keyboard. And once again it did the same thing as before.
Does anyone have any idea of how I could fix this problem?
Can someone please help me out. I need to fix this ASAP.
I had a similar issue, where I think the recovery got corrupted. You might be able to just reinstall Open Recovery (not sure), but I ended up just starting from scratch and reflashing the sbf.
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I had a similar issue, where I think the recovery got corrupted. You might be able to just reinstall Open Recovery (not sure), but I ended up just starting from scratch and reflashing the sbf.
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Well I have officially screwed my whole phone up. I did the unroot using RSD but apparently I didn't get the right .sbf file for it. I'm not sure which one I need. Mine is an unlocked A853 from Amazon.
The .sbf I got was some Italian crap.
Any idea what .sbf I needed to get?
You'll probably need the sbf with the 'vulnerable recovery'. I don't have a link to it (internet restrictions at work), but I believe android.doshaska.net has a link to a guide with everything you need on it, and fairly easy directions.
Or there's a bunch more information in xda threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
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You'll probably need the sbf with the 'vulnerable recovery'. I don't have a link to it (internet restrictions at work), but I believe android.doshaska.net has a link to a guide with everything you need on it, and fairly easy directions.
Or there's a bunch more information in xda threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
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I got it to work. I just installed Vulnerable Recovery and then installed Open Recovery and did it from there. Everything is back to working and all in English. Thanks for your help though. :good:

3.41 bootloader info from google support

Well I decided to call Google about the boot loader recovery not working as it should. I was hoping this call would help them to work on another update but they say that's the way its supposed to work. Here's the email Instructions:
1. Power down your device
2. Press and hold both volume keys and the power button to enter
Bootloader mode
3. Press the volume keys to cycle to the Recovery mode option
4. Press the power button to select Recovery mode
5. From the Recovery mode screen, press and hold the Power button then
press the Volume up button.
6. Use the volume buttons to select wipe data/factory reset.
7. Select Yes -- delete all user data.
8. The factory data reset process will now start. Once its finished,
select 'Reboot system now.'
The only option we have in the new recovery is to wipe data. Maybe for those having problems accessing twrp or cwm will be able to a access it with step 5. I don't know haven't rooted yet. So I decided to ask about nvflash and they said they're not going to release any nvflash tools or files.
um, yup. thats how stock bootloader and stock recovery work. lol
whats the issue? if your not even rooted, you wouldn't even know if you have an issue or not with the new bootloader.
Are you saying that you can't flash a different recovery? Or that when you do you still get the same stock recovery? I'm not quite sure what the issue is here, because that is exactly how the stock bootloader, and recovery are supposed to work.
Are you making sure to unlock fastboot before trying to flash recovery. I don't recall seeing or hearing anyone say anything about not being able to get to clockwork mod once its installed.
xjman said:
Are you saying that you can't flash a different recovery? Or that when you do you still get the same stock recovery? I'm not quite sure what the issue is here, because that is exactly how the stock bootloader, and recovery are supposed to work.
Are you making sure to unlock fastboot before trying to flash recovery. I don't recall seeing or hearing anyone say anything about not being able to get to clockwork mod once its installed.
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No. I saw people posting they couldn't get go cwm and could only see the red exclamation point. And I was just saying maybe after choosing recovery then holding volume up and power it would then go to cWm or twrp. I was hoping for someone to try it who is still on 3.41 Recovery. A lot of people downgraded back to 3.39 or whatever version it was
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I was hoping for someone to try it who is still on 3.41 Recovery. A lot of people downgraded back to 3.39 or whatever version it was
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I can confirm that to get in to the stock recovery you hold down 'power' and then tap 'vol up'.
At present I am running the latest CWM touch recovery. This boots straight into it from the bootloader without any extra button presses.
My personal preference to go into CWM is from either QuickBoot or ROM Manager.
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smirkis said:
didn't know being informed makes me an asshole. stupid me, reading and understanding.
for what its worth, im on the newest bootloader, and selecting recovery goes straight to twrp. which is the recovery i installed.
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I wonder why some on 3.41 can't go straight to twrp and some can. Sorry for the ahole comment I thought you were trying to be a smartass towards me. I'm just trying to find out as much info from people before I root. I am experienced at flashing and a little adb but I just read a lot of HELP BRICKED MY NEXUS posts. Did you use wugs toolkit or adb to unlock and root?
mr_tris said:
I can confirm that to get in to the stock recovery you hold down 'power' and then tap 'vol up'.
At present I am running the latest CWM touch recovery. This boots straight into it from the bootloader without any extra button presses.
My personal preference to go into CWM is from either QuickBoot or ROM Manager.
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Thanks for the info. I'm going to try unlocking and rooting when I get home. I really want to use the OTG cable and the 720p mod.
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I wonder why some on 3.41 can't go straight to twrp and some can. Sorry for the ahole comment I thought you were trying to be a smartass towards me. I'm just trying to find out as much info from people before I root. I am experienced at flashing and a little adb but I just read a lot of HELP BRICKED MY NEXUS posts. Did you use wugs toolkit or adb to unlock and root?
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When I first flashed TWRP onto my Nexus 7 after that official 4.1.2 OTA update, I wasn't able to boot into it. I then flashed it again via fastboot, and then booted the TWRP image that was on my computer, and then TWRP loaded.
I believe TWRP does work normally now as well (I can boot into it and reboot into it).
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I'm going to try unlocking and rooting when I get home.
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Well if I was you I'd just use mskips toolkit, its absolutely epic it'll save you a lot of farting around. I take it that your fully updated? ( Not that it matters) You seem to know and understand your way around adb so just go for it and enjoy.
Its works smooth as silk and save you a lot off time. The options available to you are just staggering!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
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going to recovery from bootloader works fine after 3.41.....wat r u talkin abt? (i m stock rooted+twrp)
oh yea...u hav 2 remove that recovery stock.p file thingy first.
There are plenty of people that are having issues with recovery on 3.41 bootloader.... Its confirmed some have it some don't.
The issue is that with 3.41 bootloader on some Nexus 7 Devices a custom recovery is unbootable no matter how you try, every time it will try to load recovery and fail at a black screen then reboot into the OS. It does not matter how you try from ADB reboot to recovery or from bootloader with USB attached or not.
psycho2097 said:
going to recovery from bootloader works fine after 3.41.....wat r u talkin abt? (i m stock rooted+twrp)
oh yea...u hav 2 remove that recovery stock.p file thingy first.
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Ohh crap I read about that in some thread. Any idea exactly what has to be done. The only way I can get into cwm is with ROM toolbox but I have to reflash cwm every time then hit boot into recovery.
kieso said:
Ohh crap I read about that in some thread. Any idea exactly what has to be done. The only way I can get into cwm is with ROM toolbox but I have to reflash cwm every time then hit boot into recovery.
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In your system folder there's a file called 'recovery-from-boot.p'
Go into a file manager with w/r access and rename it ' recovery-from-boot.p.bak'
When the system boots it reads that file and resets the recovery to stock, by changing the name you remove the problem.
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In your system folder there's a file called 'recovery-from-boot.p'
Go into a file manager with w/r access and rename it ' recovery-from-boot.p.bak'
When the system boots it reads that file and resets the recovery to stock, by changing the name you remove the problem.
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Thank you for all the help! I appreciate it.
kieso said:
Thank you for all the help! I appreciate it.
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No problem, a click on the 'Thanks' button for me and my colleagues on this thread would really make our day. :thumbup:
I hope you get sorted mate, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night until I got custom recovery working properly on any of my devices!
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i tried changing the name of the file, but.. after reboot, the tablet gets stuck on google screen, recovery never loads... any suggestion? Thanks =)

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