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Thrill 4G kills all the phones

Hi to all of you.
The LG Thrill 4G kills all the phones I had until now with build quality and speed even the paper phone Galaxy S 2. This year I tried, here we go Nexus one, G2, Mytouch 4G, Galaxy s Captivate and Vibrant, G2X, Htc Sensation, Atrix 4g, Infuse 4G and still have the Nexus S just for having the most up to date software. How you guys feel ? don't you think its a better phone in general even its on 2.2 which is not a problem because in general I don't see there is a huge difference between 2.2 and 2.3 for me.
Love the screen, speed, build quality, plays any video without a problem, the sound, the only thing I see now is the battery draining fast but it will get better in 2 weeks once it goes true couple of cycles of charges, please share how you feel thanx.
Just loving the phone that's all
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the lg thrill has the same specs as the o3d but has a other radio

Yes I know its the same phone
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so far i have to disagree.
Ive had the Atrix, Inspire, Infuse, & Captivate this year.
This is my least favorite of all of them.
Horrible battery, Delayed response on wake, outdated OS, gets hot, etc etc.
As soon as the GS2 releases ill be switching.
The 3D is a gimmick and will never be anything more than that on a cell phone.

I do agree with you on that. Im getting 2800 on my bech mark which is pretty good for froyo. I like the omap processor better then the others. This chipset has the same gpu that samsung uses so you will get pretty good performance. I have been running into a little issue with my device freakin out. Hopefully I can get cyanogenmod on here. I also found an extended batter for this thing too so looking into doing that so it will last a lot longer

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so far i have to disagree.
Ive had the Atrix, Inspire, Infuse, & Captivate this year.
This is my least favorite of all of them.
Horrible battery, Delayed response on wake, outdated OS, gets hot, etc etc.
As soon as the GS2 releases ill be switching.
The 3D is a gimmick and will never be anything more than that on a cell phone.
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Battery: I agree, it drains a lot faster than my Infuse 4G did, but that much was expected due to the dual-core CPU etc.
Delayed response on wake: I don't have this issue, and I'm using WidgetLocker.
outdated OS: A lot of people complain about that, but no one ever explains WHY they want gingerbread. I had it on the Infuse - yes, it was not, but there's nothing that I could do in Gingerbread that I can't do now, except say that I have Gingerbread. I have a problem with people who "demand" the latest OS but have no idea why they want or need it.
Gets hot: also not having the issue, but I'm using the stock cable that came with the phone.
I have some complaints but they are minor (like how I'm always accidentally hitting the 3D button), and I'm glad that I returned my Infuse for the Thrill. Once cyanogen is released I will be golden.

baudilus said:
Battery: I agree, it drains a lot faster than my Infuse 4G did, but that much was expected due to the dual-core CPU etc.
Delayed response on wake: I don't have this issue, and I'm using WidgetLocker.
outdated OS: A lot of people complain about that, but no one ever explains WHY they want gingerbread. I had it on the Infuse - yes, it was not, but there's nothing that I could do in Gingerbread that I can't do now, except say that I have Gingerbread. I have a problem with people who "demand" the latest OS but have no idea why they want or need it.
Gets hot: also not having the issue, but I'm using the stock cable that came with the phone.
I have some complaints but they are minor (like how I'm always accidentally hitting the 3D button), and I'm glad that I returned my Infuse for the Thrill. Once cyanogen is released I will be golden.
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after playing with pretty much all of the above, I have to agree..this phone rocks.
the 3d is much better than a gimmick assuming you pay attention to how to use it. I have compared it to the Evo3d and the NDS3d and of course our 3d TV...
It's great...if you don't see it..you're doing it wrong..plain and simple.
It's an added bonus to all of the other great things about this phone. I have run, and will continue to run more tests on the Thrill side by side with the infuse and the US SGS2 ...so far the Thrill stomps the Samsung phones ...every single time.
It is a more comfortable fit for me than the infuse, but I think that is because my previous phone was an Evo...the weight and dimensions are very similar.
Build quality is great..I don't feel like it is going to break if I hold it wrong
I don't get the lag that some have experienced but I also did some minor tweaks to speed things up a bit.
Sumper Amoled blah blah blah... I love the Sammy screens, I compared their screens to others and until now, I favored the sammy screen... This Thrill has a much better screen than what I expected (especially after all of the negative reviews it received on the screen)
The LG widgets are awesome..they make sense, they are perfectly sized, and they work within launcher pro..yay!
anyway..I still have some testing to do ..I have not played many games on the Thrill, and have a few select games that were only playable on the Infuse so I want to try those out.
The only thing the atrix had that interested me was dev support...I disliked just about everything else about it
We will get that support..or we will create it buwahahahaha

I agree about the 3D - it's not the main reason why I was interested in the phone, but it's an added bonus, and one that I enjoy very much. I thought it was just a gimmick at first too, but then I took a test picture in the AT&T store of my two-year-old, and I was sold from that moment. I look at it like this: 3D is becoming more and more prevalent, whether you think it's a gimmick or not. The movie and electronics industries are throwing their money behind it. Do I want to miss out on being able to display 3D pictures of my two-year-old 10 years from now when ALL TVs are 3D capable because I thought it was a fad?
Granted there are probably better phones with better 3D capabilities coming down the pipe, but by then she will be 3 or even 4 years old. I can upgrade again if the need arises. But I certainly don't want to look back and say "I wish I had a 3D picture of that to share." Now I will.

Agreed i had the atrix with laptop dock and i was discusted with with it plus in.all the test ive.ran thrill beats em up! with the extra money i bought a gtab wifi so im a happy camper anywho plus i guess i dont really need pc specs in my picked aka gs2 i dont feel like saying . Dude this has 1.2ghz dual core blah blah i rather just say look at my phone it has 3 d lol
Anywho im happy with my buys recently!
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Here's my .02. This year I have had the captivate, inspire 4g, iphone 4 and now the thrill. I have to say the thrill is BY FAR my favorite out of the devices. I experience no lag whatsoever, GPS works perfect, reception is MUCH MUCH better than the inspire, screen is more vibrant than the inspire, web browser blows the captivate out of the water (freezing issue with flash content on every samsung phone I've tested), camera is on point, and I even like the interface/widgets LG has included. My only complaints are battery life which is a problem on any android phone and the earpiece sounds a little weird but nothing major. Bottom line, this phone rocks!

Anyone throw CM7 on this baby yet? How's it running?

Agree with most of what has been said. Have had the phone for 3 days now. (well actually it has been in my possesion for about half that time as my 11 year keeps nabbing it to play NOVA).
Just a quick questions though. Anybody have the freezing problem that the G2x had? My phone just did it right after a 4 minute conversation and I was trying to run OOKla Speedtest. Had to pull battery to get it to reboot.

Last night I had that issue right after a phone call. The screen turned black wouldnt turn on. I will see how it goes for the next few days.

No freezing here after 4 days with the phone.
I do love the OP's first words though, I think I will say that next time I walk into a room with a bunch of iPhone sheep. "Hi to all of you. The LG Thrill 4G kills all the phones." And hold up my phone. Should be fun.
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Yeah has this phone since Sunday and I love it. I have had 0 lag issues. Apps install almost instantly the screen is very impressive for being a LCD the size and weight are perfect. Large screen and I like a little weight to my devices makes them feel like they wont break on me.
My phone gets warm with heavy use but never hot I havent had to worry about overheating and I have been using the crap out of this phone. The 3D is good, gives me a headache and my eyes go crossed if look at it too long but, it works well especially if you adjust the field depth correctly for the scene. The 1080p video looks great as do the photos. Froyo is just fine I can wait for gingerbread as long as att/lg actually come through. Either way roms will take care of that.
Anybody else switch from the android keyboard to the lg one? I like the look of the lg keyboard better than stock android or anything else on the market.
Oh and I agree "kills all the phones" needs to be a meme.
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I do a lot of gaming on android devices and I have the chainfire installed using the tegra drivers and I put riptide gp on it.. A game I originally had on my galaxy tab 10.1 which has the tegra native chipset.. I saw no difference in speed or graphics or anything.... My friend did the same stuff to his infuse 4g and when I play it side by side my phone is smooth and fluid!!!!! This phone is a powerhouse!!! Oh and I,use swype keyboard
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all I can say is it sure is hungry. Extreme heavy use gets me 8-9 hours of use. Haven't had a chance to see 'Normal' use yet. Banning it from my son might help. going to have look for an extended or backup battery.

I'm using the "android" keyboard. I might try swiftkey again; it lagged the heck out of my captivate but it was free so I tried it.
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Haven't tried to load CM7 yet, but I see there is a video of it running on the O3D, so they are working on an official one.
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Hmm, sadly I can agree with most of this. The 3D is 'OK' but not great.
I find myself Overheating, Uninstalling, & Lowering Brightness A LOT!
I personally have a sensual love for the phone
But sadly it's not something I can rely on for a full day basis. I'm currently saving up money just so I can get my hands on the CHEAPO Huawei just put on AT&T.
I might put the LG Thrill ROM on my Huawei cause of the weather app & other personal reasons.
If there's a 10/1 on LG, I am dissappointed. 7 At the most for my daily use! 4 On keeping me changing and uninstalling things.

hi, about to buy an optimus 2x, any suggestions?

just broke my galaxy s for the third time, so i think its time to move on. i have to decide to move to an optimus 2x, or an atrix. what u guys think? From what i saw, optimus have a better camera, what means a lot for me, lg have the best cellphone cameras imo. atrix have what it seens a little more speed and more space (16gb)
what do you guys suggest me?

I would not but a LG ever again. Imho Sony camera is much better.
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sony camera is cool too, but locked bootloader and still no dual core phone (or am i late?)

o2x imo is better than the atrix, the atrix has more memory so if that's what your after then get that, i love the design and shape and size of my o2x and if it wasn't for the ****ty lg support and nvidia ****ing with us by holding back vital drivers needed for ICS dev then this phone would be the best iv ever had.
The camera is pretty great iv never seen the atrix camera so cant compare tho.
The benchmarks tests always seem to show the o2x to be ahead of the atrix even tho they both have a tegra 2 chipset.
But with the customs roms this phone is pretty decent, its fast responsive, get a custom home screen and it will be smooth as you can imagine, the lg home screen is rather choppy but i use it because i like the way you can organize apps and games into separate category rather than just throwing them together into a big mess if you can do that with adw or go launcher then someone please tell me how so i can switch.
I only paid £200 for my o2x brand new so i cant complain too much, defo worth it compared to the 400-500 they are asking for that overpriced crap called the sgs2, decent phone.... ****ty price tag, no phone is worth that much.

In Australia there are close to no people using Optimus 2xes due to no one selling them on plans/contracts. Every second person has a galaxy s2 though so they can't be that bad.
I would lean towards avoiding the atrix due to the locked bootloader. Apparently there's a 50% chance of bricking it.
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If you can get it for £300 or less this is an amasing phone with cyangemod on it. Nvidias playing ball now so ics will be brill on here. Theres even rumours that yhe cm team have a alpha build of ics all features working minus camera. Its looking rosey and bright for this phone. I love it plays everything i throw at it, games, vids and music
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If you can get it for £300 or less this is an amasing phone with cyangemod on it. Nvidias playing ball now so ics will be brill on here. Theres even rumours that yhe cm team have a alpha build of ics all features working minus camera. Its looking rosey and bright for this phone. I love it plays everything i throw at it, games, vids and music
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That for the g2x and since the nvidia hal drivers havnt been released i seriously doubt it works very well.
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ok guys, really thanks! the optimus 2x have an open bootloader right? man i think i flashed my sgs more than 100 times.

better go for the s2..lg support is sh*t

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That for the g2x and since the nvidia hal drivers havnt been released i seriously doubt it works very well.
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It's quite possible that they sent RC what he needed, he's been asking them since day one, and is a serious coder, rather than the 'cook' type 'dev'.
I would say get one, the stock GB is apparently much improved over froyo, and CyanogenMod is just great, that's the reason I bought mine in the first place.
If I hadn't have managed to get a freebie, I'd keep mine.

For its money LG O2X is the best phone.

Please, don't buy that phone!
It's have the worst supported in the WORLD.
Nvidia and LG = S**T
I sell my phone, and Im really happy with that choice.
And I don't wanna see that phone again.
The best choice for you is the HTC, more beautiful and intuitive homescreen, custom roms, etc...
And forget about the Galaxy S2, this only good because the Super Amoled, and Camera, nothing more...
Cumps

ok, so i think i will choose atrix, since sg2 is too expensive for me

infestedd said:
ok, so i think i will choose atrix, since sg2 is too expensive for me
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Lol no don't. the Optimus is better than the Atrix.

infestedd said:
ok, so i think i will choose atrix, since sg2 is too expensive for me
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Wow....have you been reading, gl with that crap an its locked bootloader.
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eraldo said:
Wow....have you been reading, gl with that crap an its locked bootloader.
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Yeah common trend, people ask for advice then ignore it and buy whatever they want. Perhaps this thread will be useful for those whose stumble across it on Google.
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Yes you should buy it, looks great and does what its supposed to in no time. Got mine today and it came with Gingerbread out the box.

gr8 phone..
dude its a lovely phone.. go for it.. with stock gingerbread, its awesome no more stupid issues..

the htc high end smartphones not near as fast like the o2x or the sgs2, the hardware component quality is low, if htc not change that it will be died. maybe the rom is good but it just candy.. if you want a phone what is broken often go ahead and buy a htc. i had many htc, i never ever want again.
sgs2 it will be a good choice if isn't very overpriced. by the way the samsung company almost act like the apple, soon booth company will be in the android users blacklist. o2x is a good choice but the stock lg rom is a crap, you need to flash one of the custom roms!

vadonka said:
the htc high end smartphones not near as fast like the o2x or the sgs2, the hardware component quality is low, if htc not change that it will be died. maybe the rom is good but it just candy.. if you want a phone what is broken often go ahead and buy a htc. i had many htc, i never ever want again.
sgs2 it will be a good choice if isn't very overpriced. by the way the samsung company almost act like the apple, soon booth company will be in the android users blacklist. o2x is a good choice but the stock lg rom is a crap, you need to flash one of the custom roms!
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You obviously havent tried the sensation

What to go for?

Now i have the lg optimus 2x but I'm not happy with it. I change roms once at week, many times I have to reinstall all the apps and restore stuff from backups. I decided that I'm not happy with it and I decided to go on and change the lg phone.
I want to say thanks to all the developers that made this damned phone a little better and helped a lot with it.
Max budget is 1000euro so I think that most of the android phones are inside the budget. What do you think is the best choice on the market right now?
What I am looking at the moment in a phone is:
At least 12 hours battery with medium wifi use, always enabled data connection and like 30 minute calls during the day;
I want it to be fluid and fast, I don't want to experience freeze because I'm out of ram;
I would like a good camera, I really like taking pictures and making videos but lets say that the camera quality from the o2x really dissapointed me, the video quality was really too low to be considered hd;
The display max size I think that about 5" is enough and I want to be able to use it in the sunlight without problems;
Well, that's it. What do you guys suggest me? Which phone would be your choice? There are many models on the market right now apparently with similar hardware but which one you think is the best to do what I want to do? You think I should wait and see what the Galaxy s3 will offer or you think that it cannot offer more than the others are offering right now?
Please, don't suggest me to buy an LG, I don't even want to think about it
Thank you for your help!

If I had a 1000 euro budget for a phone I would buy an LG and save the other 700 eur for... I don't know... condoms?
Now, seriously, best of luck to you.
I wonder if this is also a case for PG "the thread closer" 101.

I really have no idea what to think of. With so many phones everyday I am a bit confused!!!

If you really want a beast phone, go for the HTC One X. Quad-core and great performance. Also the dev support for the HTC is quite good. But, you need to wait, I don't think it's released yet...

I say wait for Galaxy S III or Lg Optimus 4x HD.
Not a HTC fan but ONE X is one great phone.

iulian89 said:
I really have no idea what to think of. With so many phones everyday I am a bit confused!!!
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On seeing the probs u hav with your phone, i can say that you maybe my twin-bro... i have nearly same problems with each new fone i got...
I always regarded the 2 birds in the bush to be better than one in hand....
One day i read a person's comment on a post(similar to this one - started by me) that no one and nothing is perfect - if they have got a problem or two, learn to live with them, adjustment- a machine can't, but you can....
IMO- there is no need to get a quad core or huge screen or better camera coz one day or other they will get old.Don't get me wrong - i dont suggest to use a nokia 1110, change but only if necessary.....
But still coz you need suggestions, i will suggest nothing other than galaxy note- easily gives 18hrs+ usage if used extensively
And best of luck for your choice
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Nevr forget the thanX button

Good Bye Optimus 2x

Hi,
I have Just Sold my Optimus 2x and got a new Sony Xperia Pro.It has Been Fun with The O2x Community.Learnt a Lot from the people Here.I Hope You all Get The ICS update Soon.
If Anyone from LG/Nvidia Reads This then Do me a favour and Go F*ck your selves.

We have a lot of patience! Good luck with the Sony
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manasgirdhar said:
Hi
If Anyone from LG/Nvidia Reads This then Do me a favour and Go F*ck your selves.
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Lol'd so hard! XD
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Me too, now im on SGN... O2x is auch dope Phone.
But...
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i don't want to change the tegra platform, i love zen pinball...i bought all tables...

Manas stay in touch
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I got the Galaxy Nexus last week on sale to replace my O2X, best decision ever. I will never buy another phone from LG again, fool me once...

KernelCrap said:
I got the Galaxy Nexus last week on sale to replace my O2X, best decision ever. I will never buy another phone from LG again, fool me once...
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why is the gnex so good ?

xilw3r said:
why is the gnex so good ?
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because it gets android updates fresh from the bakery in googleland :silly:

Why this tread?
I will for sure buy lg again and I like gb. All of you who replace it aren't interesting for us
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xilw3r said:
why is the gnex so good ?
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I feel a huge difference in terms of performance, and the O2X had a habbit of running out of RAM constantly, making it very laggy (this could be helped somewhat using CM7).
And don't even get me started on the whole BSOD while charging issue, that is just annoying - not being able to trust your phone at all (even if the issue seems to be rare with V20s).
The Galaxy Nexus is also capable of playing pretty much any video I can throw at it - even 1080p high profile. The O2X lagged horribly with pretty much any video I tried, mainly because most of my videos are encoded in high profile h264.
But the thing that matters the most is not the hardware, its the software - it is just great to know that you will receive the newest version of the OS in a timely manner, not delays after delays. And the releases are not filled with tons of crap (like F-Secure on the stock ROM or w/e the name of it is).
But to be fair, the O2X is a great phone (on CM7, hoping for ICS soon so it can have CM9), and I would have kept it for myself it if not for the cheap Galaxy Nexus

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But the thing that matters the most is not the hardware,
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Come again?
If you put a dual core on a pile of crap you get o2x. Worst phone ever, i hope to get rid of it soon.

Well today I bought G Nex too. Updated it to JB and it works damn smooth. Now I just have to sell my O2X

Gnex was my first Android phone got it back in January then I got the o2x for my wife then a gtab 10.1 and recently a gnote.. Tbh gnex its an hyper boring phone.. That thing its unbrickable and every rom out there its the same boring thing.. Noone likes to "change the stock feel" same features in all roms and stable as hell..
Everything works as it should.. And the forum its boring as hell.. Same applies for gnote.. But I kept gnote stock with touchwiz since I have cm9 on my gtab and stock jelly bean on the gnex... So actually I like the stress here and gtab forums about waiting for the releases xD
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gasgasgas said:
Come again?
If you put a dual core on a pile of crap you get o2x. Worst phone ever, i hope to get rid of it soon.
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Did you even read what i wrote? I wrote: "But the thing that matters the most is not the hardware". With that sentence I mean that I would rather have a single core phone with proper software, than a dual core phone with terrible software. So basically we agree.
msedek said:
Tbh gnex its an hyper boring phone.. That thing its unbrickable and every rom out there its the same boring thing.. Noone likes to "change the stock feel" same features in all roms and stable as hell..
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I do not agree, the ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus might look pretty much the same on first glance, but the features are way different, for example Paranoid Android allows you to choose tablet mode and DPI per app.
Pretty much all ROMs built for the O2X are based on CyanogenMod.

02x is a good phone.. I just wish it wouldn't randomly lock up. I can't really ever trust it , in stressful situations like trying to open GPS while lost in Sydney traffic is sometimes is slow or freezes.
can't unlock from boot straight away because it might freeze etc.
I would like a more reliable phone.
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Yeah, I plan to sell my P990 and get a Galaxy Nexus too... If ICS comes to the P990 by then I may change my mind, but if not, I'm not sure how I'll sell it.
"LG P990 'Optimus 2X' dual-core smartphone.
"Runs Cyanogenmod 7 (Android 2.3), no promises of any more updates though.
"Performance is up there with the SGSII, but overheating and random reboots are normal."
...yeah, I wouldn't buy it.
/rant
My partner has an Xperia Pro. Apparently ICS is available (officially) for it? I've not seen it yet, and she's not willing to unlock it and get CM9 onto it. :/
Anyhoo, this forum is not the place to ask that.
...of course, that's at no fault of the community. Mostly it's LG's fault. Not necessarily for not releasing updates/drivers/etc, but for using awful, closed hardware.
Ah well. I'll hang around in the meantime. I'm not much of a dev, so I'm with the lurking crowd, complaining in these threads about LG and NVIDIA with the rest of y'all.
For those devs hanging around here, <3 you guise. Thanks for making this phone usable, maybe even enjoyable. ICS devs in particular, your patience (if any remains) is amazing, putting up with LG's silence and peeps like us demanding a 100% stable ROM. I imagine most of us understand the situation though. ^_^

KernelCrap said:
Did you even read what i wrote? I wrote: "But the thing that matters the most is not the hardware". With that sentence I mean that I would rather have a single core phone with proper software, than a dual core phone with terrible software. So basically we agree.
I do not agree, the ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus might look pretty much the same on first glance, but the features are way different, for example Paranoid Android allows you to choose tablet mode and DPI per app.
Pretty much all ROMs built for the O2X are based on CyanogenMod.
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Paranoid its also based on cm9.. All the features ARE the same with some slightly differences in ui.. All they have theme engine all the have toggles all they have integrated weather, all they have extended power menu, all they have t9 dialer, all they have twickable cpu/gpu settings, all they have color correction settings, all they have power savings options.. In the end they are all the same as for the tablet mode I have a tablet and it's not attractive to me in fact I like phone mode more and Wish I could get a paranoid android for tablet that turns the tablet into phone mode lol.. Well at least jelly bean brings that to the table I love the fact that the notification bar its in the top side of the screen just like the phone does.. So Google managed to consolidate even more the OS for tablet and phones making it looks and feels almost the same on both..
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msedek said:
Paranoid its also based on cm9.. All the features ARE the same with some slightly differences in ui.. All they have theme engine all the have toggles all they have integrated weather, all they have extended power menu, all they have t9 dialer, all they have twickable cpu/gpu settings, all they have color correction settings, all they have power savings options.. In the end they are all the same as for the tablet mode I have a tablet and it's not attractive to me in fact I like phone mode more and Wish I could get a paranoid android for tablet that turns the tablet into phone mode lol.. Well at least jelly bean brings that to the table I love the fact that the notification bar its in the top side of the screen just like the phone does.. So Google managed to consolidate even more the OS for tablet and phones making it looks and feels almost the same on both..
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So the problem is that there are no problems with the Galaxy Nexus, which makes it boring?

I aslo sold my O2X yesterday and bought a SGS3, what a difference. Like going from a Fred Flinstone "car" to a Lamborghini Spyder.

Why the OB is not that great...

Mmmm The Optimus Black is a phone classified in the upper mid-range phones, sporting 1Ghz and a very nice and sleek design and a brilliant screen!
BUT.... I own an Optimus Black since this February, replacing my broken Motorola Defy which i adored...
In the beginning it was just amazing! First thing I did was updating my OB, enjoying the 4" NOVA screen, and sleek design!
Everything was alright but, you know, a phone is boring without rooting and flashing!
There's the problem....
LACK OF SOFTWARE SUPPORT
... I mean.... Even my old Motorola Defy had a super stable CM7, MIUI, Mokee, ICS and other super cool roms when I bought my OB...
In the beginning I though the Optimus Black was more popular than Defy! But where are the devs...
I realised how popular the Defy is, so many users... which means so many devs!! ((
It is undeniable to see that the Defy forum have 1000s of devs, all helping each other, pulling out roms from their imagination...
Without sounding selfish, It is sad to see our community being small, compared to the other popular phones.
Today I checked the defy in development section, and they already ported stable CM9, MIUI v4, Mokee, and even CM10, AOKP and CM10!!! WTF...
However, I think the real culprit must be LG who delivers horrible software support...
An ICS coming probably next year..... OR NEVER
An incomprehensible laggy software on a 1Ghz device....
No significant response to customers' demand...
Make empty promises...
They prefer to make new customers, and leave existing ones behind, however, do they have an idea how important existing customers are?
We are the one who create and alter the reputation of LG. New customers are not unlimited... There is a boundary...
In other words, not caring about us, existing customers, will downgrade their reputation, and new customers won't exist for them...
I think the Optimus lack will be the last Lg phone I'll ever buy....
Lg is supposed to keep us satisfy with their OWN product as long as possible, by providing software updates...
It should look at Apple, who, though being a quite greedy company, at least provides software updates to older iPhone/iPod models!
By doing this, it shows how supportive it is for their existing customers, and new customers will say: "Wow, I'm sure to use my iPhone for at least 2-3 years!"
LG seems to be the greediest company....
Damn how I miss my Motorola Defy
One thing for sure, I probably won't miss my Optimus Black
Next will probably be a Nokia, Motorola, HTC, well anything else except LG -__-
Well that's what I wanted to say... I really wanted to share my feelings about LG and stuffs... Sorry if it is an inappropriate place to do it xD
There are points where I may sound unfair or selfish, but hey it is my opinion... We may discuss about it, but don't flame me...

Just a short question: Why did you buy OB then? You could have looked into the forum even before buying the phone... And why didnt you rebuy a Defy, if it was soo good? We all know, how bad LG software support is But I think the main problem is, that only few ppl got the device and can contribute to it... Why dont you learn more about android yourself and try to contribute as well? Wouldnt that be a point to begin with? Plus we simply got a "bad chipset" or at least it is hardly supported by TI :/

I think its not a bad chipset but bad supported one by TI..
They want to sell the OMAP 4/5 chipset, that's understandable in TI's point of view.

N00BY0815 said:
Just a short question: Why did you buy OB then? You could have looked into the forum even before buying the phone... And why didnt you rebuy a Defy, if it was soo good? We all know, how bad LG software support is But I think the main problem is, that only few ppl got the device and can contribute to it... Why dont you learn more about android yourself and try to contribute as well? Wouldnt that be a point to begin with? Plus we simply got a "bad chipset" or at least it is hardly supported by TI :/
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i bought the OB because it looked soo good and was the cheapest I could find for such quality... Eh.. rebuying the same phone.. My dad would probably say "U mad!?" lol If I was allowed, I would rebuy the defy definitely...
I am not disliking the Optimus Black at all, but only the creator behind it...
Learning more about Android... mmm maybe it's possible for me since I'm in holidays Maybe coding, etc....
But it will take so much time before even helping expert devs xD
True that TI sucks! So many things don't work well or is unsupported by TI
If only OB had a Snapdragon... lol we would get Sense lol...

WIIstpM said:
i bought the OB because it looked soo good and was the cheapest I could find for such quality... Eh.. rebuying the same phone.. My dad would probably say "U mad!?" lol If I was allowed, I would rebuy the defy definitely...
I am not disliking the Optimus Black at all, but only the creator behind it...
Learning more about Android... mmm maybe it's possible for me since I'm in holidays Maybe coding, etc....
But it will take so much time before even helping expert devs xD
True that TI sucks! So many things don't work well or is unsupported by TI
If only OB had a Snapdragon... lol we would get Sense lol...
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Yea. Agreed. As we stirred up trouble here, TI has added 2 more devs into 3630's development and increased its speed of fixing compatibility issues
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SoulExertz said:
Yea. Agreed. As we stirred up trouble here, TI has added 2 more devs into 3630's development and increased its speed of fixing compatibility issues
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Oh that's rather good news!

all phone makers suck at software updates (only 10% of the market has ics). the difference is made by devs or lack of them in this case.

WIIstpM said:
Oh that's rather good news!
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So lets stir up more trouble!!!
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SoulExertz said:
So lets stir up more trouble!!!
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lets troll their HQ for more support on our device

I believe our OB is promising since there are so many awesome developer in our community.
agree with me ?:laugh:

Very well said.. I think my next phone will be a Nexus device.
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well well gentlemen, its technology and we are humans with wants that's why some might find that ob sucks
if you just sit and see about each and every phone, also think about your beloved ob's capabilities and what you loved at first...you'll find it pretty good again
sometimes i think about just updating blah blah then i say to myself...its a phone dude!
not a console, not a tv, not this and that...it serves its purpose (youtube, facebook, HSDPA, skype......................)
if we see well, by flashing everytime (though its fun) we just dont use the device for its intended purpose
i still want updates and new stuffs though
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Very well said.. I think my next phone will be a Nexus device.
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me too
either samsung, htc or a nexus

well.. guess that means LG listens, even if they mostly dont respond.
This is my first lg product and im pretty happy, but I just cant for the life of me figure out why they wouldnt optimize battery performance themselves... it seems so.. lazy

Just wait for d final release of ICS til dec.
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I think that the OB its a very good phone, its cheap, light, fast and very customizable...
However, the battery sucks!!

You say in the title that OB sucks, and yet the only thing you complain about is the lack of support by LG, and consequently lack of stable shiny roms
That does not make a phone suck.
It still works above average with GB and some custom roms, that give it a really good performance and battery life. As you also say, it's a mid-range phone, and for that category and quality/price ratio, I believe it's one of the best phones out there.
Don't get me wrong, I'd also wish we had more support from LG no doubt. I just don't think it's fair coming here stating that a phone sucks, just because it doesn't have the roms you like.

il1cit said:
You say in the title that OB sucks, and yet the only thing you complain about is the lack of support by LG, and consequently lack of stable shiny roms
That does not make a phone suck.
It still works above average with GB and some custom roms, that give it a really good performance and battery life. As you also say, it's a mid-range phone, and for that category and quality/price ratio, I believe it's one of the best phones out there.
Don't get me wrong, I'd also wish we had more support from LG no doubt. I just don't think it's fair coming here stating that a phone sucks, just because it doesn't have the roms you like.
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A phone with a lack of software support or inferior OS makes the phone quite not worth buying! What will be a phone without a good OS/rom?
Take example; nokia phones with Symbian S60.
Because of the inferior OS, many people say these phones sucks, and they are not wrong...
The software also represents a major part of a phone's quality.
Another example: HTC HD2 has a tremendous amount of roms, even extending it's OS support.
yet having an inferior hardware specs than OB, I find the HD2 a great phone, not only because of it's huge software support, but also for it's stable rom, making the phone just even better..
It is not about the roms i like personally, but it is about satisfying ALL OB owners...
The battery life of the OB can still be improved by much, IF LG showed software support by optimising the OS for the OB.
Agree that it's one the best mid-range phone for it's quality and price, but just far away from the elite ones (Galaxy S/Xperia Arc,Nexus S,etc)
Moreover having TI processor makes the OB even less appealing for devs and LG...
Of course my arguments may not be the ones you'll agree with... since it's my opinion...
So according to me, the software determines whether a phone is good or not.. You may not be of the same state of mind as me
I appreciate that you show strong arguments for saying why the OB doesn't suck, this will keep a balance and prevent bias or any conflicts, as my objective was not to create bias, but to show my opinion about it, AND to allow other users to express themselves about it

Are you seriously comparing Symbian with Gingerbread? That's not a real argument, sorry. If Gingerbread was as bad as Symbian I would be the first to toss my phone out the window.
Gingerbread is not an inferior OS (like Symbian), it's just outdated.
Of course software is very important, who said it wasn't? That's why we all love Android My point was that just because OB doesn't have the last shiny version of ICS, doesn't make it garbage.
It still has a very good mobile OS and very good specs, regarding its price. So it can't suck, sorry

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Are you seriously comparing Symbian with Gingerbread? That's not a real argument, sorry. If Gingerbread was as bad as Symbian I would be the first to toss my phone out the window.
Gingerbread is not an inferior OS (like Symbian), it's just outdated.
Of course software is very important, who said it wasn't? That's why we all love Android My point was that just because OB doesn't have the last shiny version of ICS, doesn't make it garbage.
It still has a very good mobile OS and very good specs, regarding its price. So it can't suck, sorry
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Hmm.. Honestly i find Symbian Belle FP1 as efficient as Gingerbread... I would fall for a Nokia Pureview 808 anytime xD
True though... it's not garbage... Maybe I should replace the word "sucks" by another weaker word lol

WIIstpM said:
Hmm.. Honestly i find Symbian Belle FP1 as efficient as Gingerbread... I would fall for a Nokia Pureview 808 anytime xD
True though... it's not garbage... Maybe I should replace the word "sucks" by another weaker word lol
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Now I accept the title, and it is in fact not that great that we perhaps won't have ICS.
As for Pureview... THAT CAMERA!
EDIT: This is just amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21XUNO-_-0c